There's more than one path to success in business at IU

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.165 --> 00:00:01.515 (Megan Ray) Great. 2 00:00:02.615 --> 00:00:05.195 And if it's okay with you all, and I can turn this off. 3 00:00:05.195 --> 00:00:08.035 If it's not, I'd love to record this if you all don't mind. 4 00:00:08.415 --> 00:00:11.195 So, um, if you'd rather me not, that's okay. 5 00:00:11.495 --> 00:00:14.155 So just raise your hand if you would rather me not record. 6 00:00:16.085 --> 00:00:18.175 Okay. Seeing no hands raised, we will move forward. 7 00:00:18.275 --> 00:00:21.975 So, and hi, welcome to our participants who are coming in. 8 00:00:22.475 --> 00:00:24.015 I'm really glad to see you all here. 9 00:00:24.235 --> 00:00:26.295 So, wonderful Angel 10 00:00:26.315 --> 00:00:30.655 and Cal, Amy, Andy, Akash, James. 11 00:00:31.145 --> 00:00:32.975 Great, thank you so much. Hi Katie. 12 00:00:33.445 --> 00:00:37.575 Glad that you all are joining us. Luke, Liam, Sean. Hi. 13 00:00:37.785 --> 00:00:40.455 Hello, welcome. Well, my name is Megan Ray 14 00:00:40.755 --> 00:00:43.535 and I am your moderator this evening for this panel. 15 00:00:43.875 --> 00:00:45.295 And I am so excited 16 00:00:45.295 --> 00:00:48.975 because we have some amazing, incredibly accomplished alumni 17 00:00:49.595 --> 00:00:51.255 who are here with us this evening 18 00:00:51.635 --> 00:00:53.335 who are gonna talk a little bit about their roles, 19 00:00:53.465 --> 00:00:56.095 about their major programs at IU, about what they did 20 00:00:56.195 --> 00:00:58.015 to get themselves successful 21 00:00:58.235 --> 00:00:59.935 and into the places where they are. 22 00:01:00.235 --> 00:01:03.655 So what I'd love to do is have you all go ahead 23 00:01:03.755 --> 00:01:04.975 and introduce yourselves 24 00:01:05.355 --> 00:01:07.855 and, um, Alyssa, if we wanna start with you, 25 00:01:07.955 --> 00:01:10.215 and then we'll go to Fuhang and then to James. 26 00:01:11.195 --> 00:01:13.405 (Alyssa Claymiller) Awesome. Well, I'm super happy 27 00:01:13.585 --> 00:01:15.125 to be here with you all today. 28 00:01:15.425 --> 00:01:18.765 My name's Alyssa. Um, I'm from outside of Fort Wayne 29 00:01:19.025 --> 00:01:21.845 and graduated from IU in 2019. 30 00:01:22.585 --> 00:01:24.725 Um, and I work at Intuitive Surgical. 31 00:01:25.265 --> 00:01:27.525 We have a surgical robot. 32 00:01:27.785 --> 00:01:31.725 So a lot of people think that it's the robot doing surgery, 33 00:01:32.105 --> 00:01:35.885 but it's actually the surgeon who is, is doing that. 34 00:01:36.035 --> 00:01:39.005 Just gives them some more precision and control. 35 00:01:39.625 --> 00:01:42.805 Um, and I originally wanted to be an optometrist, 36 00:01:42.805 --> 00:01:47.085 so I studied science and we can maybe get into that later, 37 00:01:47.225 --> 00:01:49.285 but how I made this, the decision 38 00:01:49.285 --> 00:01:50.525 to go more of a business route. 39 00:01:55.665 --> 00:02:00.395 Hey everybody, I'm Fuhang Mou. I graduated from IU in 2020. 40 00:02:00.515 --> 00:02:02.235 I studied biotechnology and 41 00:02:02.525 --> 00:02:06.035 after I graduated I moved to Chicago to work at AbbVie. 42 00:02:06.135 --> 00:02:07.715 AbbVie is a pharmaceutical company. 43 00:02:07.895 --> 00:02:10.835 We have products like Humira and Botox. 44 00:02:11.215 --> 00:02:15.205 Um, those are like two of our most well-known products. 45 00:02:15.465 --> 00:02:17.845 So I started in marketing, went to market research, 46 00:02:17.905 --> 00:02:21.845 and now I am in sales in Raleigh, North Carolina. 47 00:02:21.985 --> 00:02:24.725 So I'm happy to be back at IU with you all. 48 00:02:27.675 --> 00:02:29.655 Uh, hi everyone. I'm James Markwith, uh, 49 00:02:29.805 --> 00:02:31.335 also located in Chicago now, 50 00:02:31.335 --> 00:02:32.975 but originally from, uh, Seattle, Washington. 51 00:02:33.555 --> 00:02:36.895 Uh, graduated, uh, from Indiana first in 2021 52 00:02:37.075 --> 00:02:39.975 and then again in 2022, uh, after grad school. 53 00:02:40.555 --> 00:02:43.135 Uh, now I work here in Chicago for United Airlines. 54 00:02:43.395 --> 00:02:46.215 So happy to be here. Uh, excited for this panel. 55 00:02:48.075 --> 00:02:50.365 Well, thank you all so much. I really appreciate it. 56 00:02:50.425 --> 00:02:54.205 So the first thing I'd like to do is a ask you all 57 00:02:54.855 --> 00:02:56.205 about the undergraduate majors. 58 00:02:56.205 --> 00:02:59.405 You each chose a different undergraduate major to go into. 59 00:02:59.985 --> 00:03:02.125 And so how did you pick that major program? 60 00:03:02.505 --> 00:03:06.205 And then from that, how did you then decide 61 00:03:06.205 --> 00:03:09.365 to either move into the work that you're doing, right? 62 00:03:09.365 --> 00:03:10.445 Like what area of that 63 00:03:10.625 --> 00:03:12.685 or what led you then into the grad school 64 00:03:13.055 --> 00:03:14.085 route right out of that? 65 00:03:14.265 --> 00:03:16.125 So, and James, if you wanna go ahead 66 00:03:16.125 --> 00:03:18.405 and start since you, you just spoke last, 67 00:03:18.505 --> 00:03:21.965 and then we will go to, uh, Fuhang and then Alyssa. 68 00:03:22.105 --> 00:03:23.105 That'd be great. 69 00:03:24.035 --> 00:03:27.405 Yeah, sure. So, uh, an undergrad I studied economics 70 00:03:27.405 --> 00:03:29.965 and political science and, uh, you know, 71 00:03:29.965 --> 00:03:31.285 I had a minor in business, 72 00:03:31.305 --> 00:03:33.885 but I, I really wanted to kind of grow the, 73 00:03:33.945 --> 00:03:36.845 the business side of my, uh, you know, education 74 00:03:36.845 --> 00:03:37.925 and knowledge a little more. 75 00:03:38.305 --> 00:03:40.365 Uh, so I did the one year master's of science 76 00:03:40.365 --> 00:03:42.125 and finance program through +Kelley. 77 00:03:42.825 --> 00:03:46.325 Uh, after finishing that, you know, I wanted to kind 78 00:03:46.325 --> 00:03:49.045 of go into the corporate world and, you know, try it out. 79 00:03:49.185 --> 00:03:50.245 And, uh, about a year in, 80 00:03:50.245 --> 00:03:53.725 at United Airlines here in Chicago, um, uh, 81 00:03:54.125 --> 00:03:55.565 I do it United is for, 82 00:03:55.675 --> 00:03:57.325 it's called pricing and revenue management. 83 00:03:57.785 --> 00:03:59.405 And so it's pretty related more 84 00:03:59.425 --> 00:04:01.565 to the econ side of my, uh, background. 85 00:04:02.145 --> 00:04:03.285 Um, you know, revenue, 86 00:04:03.285 --> 00:04:05.805 revenue management's looking at demand and setting affairs 87 00:04:05.945 --> 00:04:07.445 and uh, you know, making sure 88 00:04:07.445 --> 00:04:09.125 that we maximize revenue essentially. 89 00:04:09.785 --> 00:04:13.565 Um, so it's, you know, it's been, it's been closely tied 90 00:04:13.565 --> 00:04:16.405 through my education, uh, you know, the whole way through. 91 00:04:16.625 --> 00:04:18.765 But, um, is there any other part of 92 00:04:18.765 --> 00:04:20.005 that question I missed? I can't. 93 00:04:20.625 --> 00:04:23.605 You did great. That was awesome. Thank you. Thank you. 94 00:04:23.605 --> 00:04:24.725 And I'd like to go ahead 95 00:04:24.725 --> 00:04:27.365 and encourage our attendees who are watching, 96 00:04:27.365 --> 00:04:29.965 if you have questions, go ahead and put those into the 97 00:04:29.985 --> 00:04:31.285 Q&A specifically. 98 00:04:31.515 --> 00:04:33.525 That'll be really helpful for us in terms 99 00:04:33.525 --> 00:04:34.525 of getting those answered. 100 00:04:34.745 --> 00:04:36.365 So, excellent. Okay. 101 00:04:38.825 --> 00:04:42.685 So I, um, when I first started at IU, I wanted 102 00:04:42.705 --> 00:04:44.525 to be a physician, right? 103 00:04:44.625 --> 00:04:47.605 So I, I took the pre-med courses, I kind 104 00:04:47.605 --> 00:04:49.125 of followed the traditional path of 105 00:04:49.875 --> 00:04:51.765 like a science curriculum, right? 106 00:04:51.765 --> 00:04:55.325 Deep science. And then somewhere along the line I discovered 107 00:04:55.325 --> 00:04:59.365 that the business side was more, you know, 108 00:04:59.365 --> 00:05:00.485 plays better to my strength, 109 00:05:00.505 --> 00:05:04.485 and it's an area that I felt I was better able to contribute 110 00:05:04.505 --> 00:05:06.325 to this life science ecosystem, 111 00:05:06.385 --> 00:05:08.005 the business side of life sciences. 112 00:05:08.625 --> 00:05:12.045 So I studied more business at IU 113 00:05:12.105 --> 00:05:15.085 and kind of work to connect the science aspect 114 00:05:15.085 --> 00:05:17.165 of my science major curriculum, 115 00:05:17.185 --> 00:05:19.645 and then my business curriculum, 116 00:05:19.865 --> 00:05:21.165 my business courses together. 117 00:05:21.305 --> 00:05:23.685 And once I graduated from IU, 118 00:05:23.685 --> 00:05:26.005 of course I went into marketing at AbbVie, so a business 119 00:05:26.595 --> 00:05:28.885 role in a science company. 120 00:05:29.105 --> 00:05:32.965 And, and I mean that's what I've been doing ever since. 121 00:05:36.115 --> 00:05:38.095 So for me, very similar story. 122 00:05:38.715 --> 00:05:42.085 Um, I was originally started off as biology 123 00:05:43.065 --> 00:05:45.685 and uh, decided to transition to exercise science 124 00:05:45.785 --> 00:05:48.965 to meet my, meet my prereq, um, requirements 125 00:05:49.025 --> 00:05:50.205 for optometry school. 126 00:05:50.865 --> 00:05:53.285 And it was around my junior year. 127 00:05:53.605 --> 00:05:57.285 I think I started maybe sophomore year, started to like have 128 00:05:57.285 --> 00:05:59.045 that little voice in the back of my mind that was starting 129 00:05:59.045 --> 00:06:02.405 to question if I really did wanna become an optometrist. 130 00:06:02.865 --> 00:06:07.325 Um, and started looking in a bit more to the business side. 131 00:06:07.425 --> 00:06:10.165 And even, 'cause I kind of had my blinders on 132 00:06:10.165 --> 00:06:11.285 for a long time, it's like I wanted 133 00:06:11.285 --> 00:06:12.725 to do optometry, that's all I wanted to do. 134 00:06:13.585 --> 00:06:16.165 And anyone who goes pre-med 135 00:06:16.185 --> 00:06:20.285 or pre-physical therapy knows that all of those kind 136 00:06:20.285 --> 00:06:22.925 of decisions start a long time ago, like in high school. 137 00:06:23.025 --> 00:06:25.205 So it can be really hard to change your mind. 138 00:06:25.785 --> 00:06:28.925 Um, but I think it's really important to listen to 139 00:06:29.595 --> 00:06:32.845 like your gut instincts and what you feel, um, 140 00:06:33.235 --> 00:06:37.165 because I'm really grateful for my science background, but, 141 00:06:37.225 --> 00:06:38.805 and I think it's really helped in the 142 00:06:38.805 --> 00:06:40.005 career that I have now. 143 00:06:40.745 --> 00:06:45.505 But, um, but I, I was starting to realize as I was preparing 144 00:06:45.505 --> 00:06:48.265 for optometry school, I was starting to think I like, well, 145 00:06:48.945 --> 00:06:51.065 I was like maybe like, you know, later on, 146 00:06:51.115 --> 00:06:54.225 after practicing for a while, I can like be one 147 00:06:54.225 --> 00:06:56.665 of those doctors who like helps with the pharmaceuticals 148 00:06:57.445 --> 00:07:02.295 of things or is like the, sometimes there's physicians 149 00:07:02.475 --> 00:07:07.075 who have a big influence on the research piece. 150 00:07:07.775 --> 00:07:08.955 And I started realize 151 00:07:08.955 --> 00:07:11.435 that I could just go right into medical 152 00:07:11.695 --> 00:07:13.075 device or pharmaceuticals. 153 00:07:13.655 --> 00:07:17.715 So, um, I think that was when I decided that, 154 00:07:18.105 --> 00:07:20.355 that it was easier just to go that route then 155 00:07:20.575 --> 00:07:23.115 to go all the way through school and go a half million 156 00:07:23.735 --> 00:07:25.155 or like quarter million in debt 157 00:07:25.255 --> 00:07:27.515 before coming to that conclusion. 158 00:07:28.995 --> 00:07:30.495 It was a good thing you caught yourself, 159 00:07:30.495 --> 00:07:31.855 Alyssa, probably, right? 160 00:07:31.925 --> 00:07:34.495 Like in that process. So, so one of the things 161 00:07:34.495 --> 00:07:36.655 that I think is, is on the mind 162 00:07:36.755 --> 00:07:37.935 of the students observing this, 163 00:07:37.935 --> 00:07:39.975 they're all interested in business, right? 164 00:07:40.515 --> 00:07:41.815 In some way, shape or form, 165 00:07:42.475 --> 00:07:47.135 and are looking for a business degree outside of 166 00:07:47.135 --> 00:07:48.455 what the traditional business degrees 167 00:07:48.715 --> 00:07:49.855 are at the Kelley School. 168 00:07:49.995 --> 00:07:53.335 And so a couple of you have this sciences background, James, 169 00:07:53.335 --> 00:07:55.535 you have this background in econ and political science, 170 00:07:55.995 --> 00:07:59.375 but I'm wondering too, just broadly, are there folks 171 00:07:59.475 --> 00:08:01.855 around you who, you know, who you work with, 172 00:08:01.915 --> 00:08:03.815 who are coming from different backgrounds other than a 173 00:08:03.935 --> 00:08:06.735 straight business degree who are doing things in your areas? 174 00:08:06.955 --> 00:08:09.335 And, and if so, what were some of those paths so 175 00:08:09.335 --> 00:08:10.615 that we can kind of open that up? 176 00:08:14.185 --> 00:08:16.625 I think there's people that I work with, um, 177 00:08:17.245 --> 00:08:19.665 now in my sales capacity and then in my marketing 178 00:08:19.665 --> 00:08:24.305 and market research capacity of, of all backgrounds, right? 179 00:08:24.465 --> 00:08:27.305 I I think once, I mean once you graduate 180 00:08:27.305 --> 00:08:29.385 and you enter the corporate world, you realize 181 00:08:29.455 --> 00:08:31.025 that you're gonna meet people 182 00:08:31.025 --> 00:08:32.625 with all different sorts of majors. 183 00:08:32.725 --> 00:08:34.465 Yes, there's gonna be a lot of business majors, 184 00:08:34.465 --> 00:08:35.665 but there's also gonna be science 185 00:08:35.845 --> 00:08:37.425 majors, pol, political science. 186 00:08:37.425 --> 00:08:38.545 There's gonna be everything. 187 00:08:39.005 --> 00:08:41.585 And it's really up to you at that point to make sure 188 00:08:41.585 --> 00:08:44.105 that you are able to, you know, grow, grow in your role, 189 00:08:44.105 --> 00:08:47.305 learn what you need to, to be successful in your role. 190 00:08:47.305 --> 00:08:52.105 It's really, uh, may, may maybe the major, right? 191 00:08:52.105 --> 00:08:55.645 Your, your college degree, your major is the, is the thing 192 00:08:55.645 --> 00:08:57.725 to get you into the door in a corporate, 193 00:08:57.835 --> 00:08:59.125 corporate America company. 194 00:08:59.225 --> 00:09:01.005 But once you're in the door, it's really up to you 195 00:09:01.025 --> 00:09:03.805 to sustain your success and your learnings there. 196 00:09:07.355 --> 00:09:08.725 Any of you wanna add to that, 197 00:09:12.275 --> 00:09:16.555 I would agree that in my, ever since graduating college, 198 00:09:16.745 --> 00:09:19.115 I've worked with people who come from all different 199 00:09:19.625 --> 00:09:24.395 backgrounds and it really is, it, it's more than just 200 00:09:24.945 --> 00:09:26.435 what your degree is on paper. 201 00:09:26.705 --> 00:09:30.515 It's, it's the different multifaceted type people 202 00:09:30.515 --> 00:09:32.755 that a strong organization wants to attract. 203 00:09:33.295 --> 00:09:37.075 Um, and if they're only looking for one specific type 204 00:09:37.195 --> 00:09:38.875 of person or specific background, 205 00:09:38.985 --> 00:09:41.595 it's probably not a very diverse company, um, 206 00:09:41.695 --> 00:09:43.635 or doesn't value those kind of mindsets. 207 00:09:44.175 --> 00:09:47.605 So I think that 208 00:09:48.155 --> 00:09:49.325 like the degree 209 00:09:49.325 --> 00:09:52.165 that's on your paper isn't the end all be all. 210 00:09:54.755 --> 00:09:55.965 Yeah, I'd completely agree. 211 00:09:56.105 --> 00:09:58.365 I'd say, uh, speaking from experience at United, 212 00:09:58.605 --> 00:10:01.205 I know many people who they do have business degrees. 213 00:10:01.365 --> 00:10:04.165 I know many people who don't or, you know, social sciences 214 00:10:04.265 --> 00:10:05.765 and, uh, whatnot. 215 00:10:06.345 --> 00:10:09.085 Um, I would say that most of the people that, 216 00:10:09.085 --> 00:10:10.485 even if they had the business degree, 217 00:10:10.835 --> 00:10:13.205 what makes them stand out is their interviewing skills, 218 00:10:13.205 --> 00:10:16.405 their personability, like other, you know, aspects 219 00:10:16.425 --> 00:10:17.805 of the interview process 220 00:10:18.065 --> 00:10:19.885 or being a good candidate that kind 221 00:10:19.885 --> 00:10:21.525 of actually get you that job. 222 00:10:21.785 --> 00:10:24.325 So, um, you know, if you, 223 00:10:24.865 --> 00:10:26.565 if you do end up getting a business degree, 224 00:10:26.565 --> 00:10:27.605 you're interested, that's great. 225 00:10:27.715 --> 00:10:29.365 It's gonna certainly, you know, 226 00:10:29.695 --> 00:10:31.405 teach you things that will help you in the future. 227 00:10:31.945 --> 00:10:33.365 But even if you don't, you know, 228 00:10:33.465 --> 00:10:36.125 you can be successful regardless. That's what I've done. 229 00:10:36.935 --> 00:10:39.445 Let's talk about what some of those skills 230 00:10:39.505 --> 00:10:43.325 and things are that you have to actually lean into, right? 231 00:10:43.325 --> 00:10:46.045 Like the other stuff that you did outside of the classes 232 00:10:46.785 --> 00:10:48.245 in your undergrad experiences 233 00:10:48.385 --> 00:10:50.485 and, uh, Fuhang, I'm gonna start with you. 234 00:10:50.945 --> 00:10:53.525 You know, what were the things that you did outside 235 00:10:53.785 --> 00:10:56.925 of academics that helped get you ready for 236 00:10:56.925 --> 00:10:57.965 where you are right now? 237 00:10:58.425 --> 00:11:00.805 And then James we'll circle to you and then to Alyssa. 238 00:11:02.115 --> 00:11:04.445 Yeah, Megan, I think there was a lot of, um, 239 00:11:05.355 --> 00:11:07.125 like leadership, right? 240 00:11:07.145 --> 00:11:08.125 How do you work in a team? 241 00:11:08.305 --> 00:11:09.485 How do you work with other people? 242 00:11:09.645 --> 00:11:12.405 I think it's exactly what James just alluded to, right? 243 00:11:12.435 --> 00:11:15.405 It's a lot of the kind of the social interactions 244 00:11:15.405 --> 00:11:17.005 that you're gonna have with the different people 245 00:11:17.005 --> 00:11:18.125 you're working with, right? 246 00:11:18.125 --> 00:11:21.045 When you enter a corporate company, there's gonna be a lot 247 00:11:21.045 --> 00:11:22.885 of different teams, a lot of different players 248 00:11:22.995 --> 00:11:24.445 with a lot of different opinions. 249 00:11:24.745 --> 00:11:26.645 And it's all about how do you navigate the, 250 00:11:27.265 --> 00:11:29.805 the relationships that you're gonna have with each one 251 00:11:29.805 --> 00:11:31.405 of them and that they have with each other. 252 00:11:31.545 --> 00:11:34.565 So it's a lot of, um, I, I think college is a great time 253 00:11:34.565 --> 00:11:35.685 to help you understand 254 00:11:35.745 --> 00:11:38.005 and really hone in on your kind of, uh, 255 00:11:38.005 --> 00:11:40.765 relationship management, your kind of, you know, 256 00:11:41.615 --> 00:11:43.115 social navigating and, 257 00:11:43.115 --> 00:11:45.195 and that's gonna be really beneficial 258 00:11:45.295 --> 00:11:46.635 as you enter the corporate world. 259 00:11:51.535 --> 00:11:55.045 So some things I was involved in outside of the classroom. 260 00:11:55.525 --> 00:11:58.925 I worked at the study abroad office after I studied abroad. 261 00:11:59.505 --> 00:12:04.005 Um, and I found that that gave me a lot 262 00:12:04.005 --> 00:12:06.805 of great skills that I use in my career today. 263 00:12:07.225 --> 00:12:10.565 We would have, if you've ever seen like the tables out for, 264 00:12:10.845 --> 00:12:12.685 IU study abroad, like that used 265 00:12:12.685 --> 00:12:13.805 to be me behind that table. 266 00:12:14.265 --> 00:12:16.165 We did a lot of outreach, um, 267 00:12:16.345 --> 00:12:18.165 and helping with the financial aid 268 00:12:18.225 --> 00:12:19.685 and their application process 269 00:12:20.275 --> 00:12:22.325 once they decide they wanted to study abroad. 270 00:12:22.825 --> 00:12:25.445 Um, and usually it, it's somewhat 271 00:12:25.445 --> 00:12:29.285 of a long planning process, you know, at least six months 272 00:12:29.285 --> 00:12:30.765 before someone studies abroad 273 00:12:30.785 --> 00:12:34.325 and helping them get all the puzzle pieces put together for 274 00:12:34.325 --> 00:12:36.245 that to happen, you know, their financial aid 275 00:12:36.265 --> 00:12:39.685 or their classes going through even the nitty gritty, 276 00:12:39.715 --> 00:12:41.005 like what do I pack? 277 00:12:41.115 --> 00:12:42.965 Like how do I do this 278 00:12:42.965 --> 00:12:45.085 and that, make a bank account when you get there. 279 00:12:45.385 --> 00:12:48.885 So helping people through that, I feel like has helped me in 280 00:12:48.885 --> 00:12:52.365 what I do now, which we help train the surgeons 281 00:12:52.365 --> 00:12:53.485 to do the robotic surgery 282 00:12:53.865 --> 00:12:57.785 and essentially it's again like a very long process. 283 00:12:57.935 --> 00:12:59.825 Like there has to be a lot of ducks in a row. 284 00:13:00.445 --> 00:13:02.505 And so I feel like that was beneficial. 285 00:13:03.325 --> 00:13:06.185 Um, and then other than that, I think 286 00:13:06.855 --> 00:13:08.465 find something you're passionate about 287 00:13:08.565 --> 00:13:11.305 and try to get a leadership role in it. 288 00:13:11.505 --> 00:13:13.865 I mean, it doesn't matter if it's intramural volleyball 289 00:13:13.865 --> 00:13:16.265 and you're the team lead, just find something 290 00:13:16.455 --> 00:13:17.465 that you're passionate about. 291 00:13:17.705 --> 00:13:19.305 'cause little examples like 292 00:13:19.305 --> 00:13:22.065 that can go a long way too in an interview. 293 00:13:25.265 --> 00:13:27.275 Yeah, I completely agree with what Alyssa said. 294 00:13:27.615 --> 00:13:30.355 Um, something I'd on add onto to that is just connect 295 00:13:30.355 --> 00:13:32.755 with your professors, you know, they're a great resource. 296 00:13:33.255 --> 00:13:36.315 Um, I had the opportunity of working pretty closely with, 297 00:13:36.315 --> 00:13:37.355 uh, professor Graf. 298 00:13:37.435 --> 00:13:38.595 I don't know if anyone's, uh, 299 00:13:38.745 --> 00:13:40.635 here has had any experience with him. 300 00:13:40.975 --> 00:13:43.115 Uh, he taught introductory micro and macro. 301 00:13:43.775 --> 00:13:47.115 Um, and so I was a UGI for that class for about two years. 302 00:13:47.295 --> 00:13:51.275 And, uh, you know, through some, uh, I had a, a good, uh, 303 00:13:51.275 --> 00:13:52.355 relationship with him 304 00:13:52.375 --> 00:13:53.595 and just, uh, he kind 305 00:13:53.595 --> 00:13:56.115 of helped me along in the later years of, uh, college. 306 00:13:56.295 --> 00:13:58.915 So just connect with your professors, uh, uh, 307 00:13:58.915 --> 00:14:00.155 especially use LinkedIn. 308 00:14:00.535 --> 00:14:01.515 Uh, if you don't have a LinkedIn 309 00:14:01.515 --> 00:14:02.835 account, you should definitely make one. 310 00:14:03.295 --> 00:14:05.035 And, uh, also utilize Handshake. 311 00:14:05.095 --> 00:14:08.515 So the school gives you a lot of tools, uh, for, you know, 312 00:14:08.515 --> 00:14:10.435 getting a job or networking. 313 00:14:10.435 --> 00:14:12.395 And I just recommend utilizing them. 314 00:14:15.575 --> 00:14:17.355 You know, I really interested, 315 00:14:17.375 --> 00:14:19.155 you talked about the networking stuff and, 316 00:14:19.255 --> 00:14:21.315 and these are students who are going into the start 317 00:14:21.315 --> 00:14:23.555 of the sophomore year, so networking is something they're 318 00:14:23.755 --> 00:14:27.155 familiar with, but it's also probably still pretty daggone 319 00:14:27.155 --> 00:14:28.355 intimidating, right? 320 00:14:28.495 --> 00:14:29.675 As you're going through that process, 321 00:14:30.465 --> 00:14:33.715 when you're thinking about that, what was one of the things 322 00:14:33.715 --> 00:14:34.915 that you used, like a tip 323 00:14:34.935 --> 00:14:37.235 or a trick that you used that you felt like, 324 00:14:37.345 --> 00:14:40.715 once I figured this out, it was a whole lot easier for me? 325 00:14:41.175 --> 00:14:43.435 So, and I'll start with Alyssa 326 00:14:43.815 --> 00:14:45.835 and then we'll go to Fuhang, and then James. 327 00:14:47.005 --> 00:14:50.025 So do you mean in terms of networking? Is that Yeah, 328 00:14:50.775 --> 00:14:51.775 Yeah. Either 329 00:14:51.775 --> 00:14:53.885 a conversation starter maybe that you had 330 00:14:53.985 --> 00:14:56.485 or a story that you told about your experiences 331 00:14:56.555 --> 00:14:59.365 that helped connect, like all of those different things. 332 00:15:00.255 --> 00:15:02.505 Awesome. I think, I think 333 00:15:03.345 --> 00:15:05.105 bringing humor into it is always easy, 334 00:15:05.205 --> 00:15:09.065 or I, when you're first meeting someone, sometimes even, um, 335 00:15:09.855 --> 00:15:11.825 just noting something that's happening 336 00:15:11.825 --> 00:15:14.425 around you can give you something quick 337 00:15:14.685 --> 00:15:15.825 to mutually bond over. 338 00:15:16.605 --> 00:15:19.545 Um, whether you're, I mean, like you're waiting in line 339 00:15:19.545 --> 00:15:20.985 for the bus or just anything, 340 00:15:20.985 --> 00:15:22.665 you can really start a conversation 341 00:15:22.665 --> 00:15:23.665 with anybody if you want. 342 00:15:24.165 --> 00:15:29.065 Um, but I would say also just like as soon 343 00:15:29.065 --> 00:15:30.585 as you can just find mutual ground, 344 00:15:30.845 --> 00:15:33.385 and I feel like that helps people connect right off the bat. 345 00:15:37.525 --> 00:15:40.165 I, I think it's just about like, um, 346 00:15:41.955 --> 00:15:43.645 getting used to the flow 347 00:15:43.645 --> 00:15:45.925 of these networking conversations, right? 348 00:15:45.925 --> 00:15:48.485 Like when you're entering these networking conversations 349 00:15:48.665 --> 00:15:51.565 and making sure you understand what you want out 350 00:15:51.565 --> 00:15:53.285 of the conversation and how 351 00:15:54.065 --> 00:15:56.645 the conversation can move towards that, right? 352 00:15:56.745 --> 00:15:58.165 Yes, you wanna, you know, find 353 00:15:58.165 --> 00:15:59.445 what you have in common, right? 354 00:15:59.445 --> 00:16:01.805 To make the conversation a little more personable and, 355 00:16:01.825 --> 00:16:03.645 and, you know, build the connection, 356 00:16:03.985 --> 00:16:05.645 but also make sure you keep in mind 357 00:16:05.705 --> 00:16:07.565 and are moving the conversation towards 358 00:16:08.385 --> 00:16:10.045 the questions you want to ask, right? 359 00:16:10.075 --> 00:16:12.165 That are important to your career, the, 360 00:16:12.585 --> 00:16:14.245 the reason why you're networking with them. 361 00:16:14.385 --> 00:16:15.805 So keep the end in mind. 362 00:16:15.945 --> 00:16:18.845 And, um, you know, over time the more of these kind 363 00:16:18.845 --> 00:16:21.205 of cold networking calls you have with people, 364 00:16:21.265 --> 00:16:24.645 the more familiar you'll be with the, the flow of it. 365 00:16:24.725 --> 00:16:26.205 I mean, they're all pretty similar and, 366 00:16:26.225 --> 00:16:28.645 and people, people have advice they wanna share. 367 00:16:28.785 --> 00:16:32.565 So make sure you are able to effectively elicit that. 368 00:16:37.085 --> 00:16:39.135 Yeah, I agree with what Fuhang and Alyssa said. 369 00:16:39.155 --> 00:16:41.935 And just to add on, I would say, you know, do your research. 370 00:16:42.155 --> 00:16:45.255 Um, you know, you don't want to be asking, uh, questions 371 00:16:45.255 --> 00:16:47.855 that you could find in quick Google search 372 00:16:47.915 --> 00:16:50.055 or if, you know, if they've made it pretty obvious in their 373 00:16:50.055 --> 00:16:52.855 like profile if you're doing a cold, uh, cold email 374 00:16:52.915 --> 00:16:56.255 or cold LinkedIn message to someone, uh, if you're trying 375 00:16:56.255 --> 00:16:57.695 to, you know, reach that connection. 376 00:16:58.235 --> 00:17:01.175 Um, so you just want to kind of be prepared, essentially, 377 00:17:01.595 --> 00:17:03.495 uh, you know, know what they do, 378 00:17:03.565 --> 00:17:04.735 what kind of sector they're in. 379 00:17:04.735 --> 00:17:07.015 Maybe, uh, I think Alyssa alluded to this, 380 00:17:07.015 --> 00:17:09.735 just be caught up on current news in their sector. 381 00:17:09.835 --> 00:17:12.055 If, you know something big's happening in that, uh, 382 00:17:12.535 --> 00:17:14.255 industry, uh, just know about it. 383 00:17:14.305 --> 00:17:16.015 Maybe bring it up as a touching point. 384 00:17:16.035 --> 00:17:19.415 It could be a, a starter for a conversation, um, 385 00:17:22.345 --> 00:17:24.235 When you were doing that kind of research, James, 386 00:17:24.235 --> 00:17:25.235 and thinking about that, right? 387 00:17:25.235 --> 00:17:26.435 Because I think that's so important 388 00:17:26.435 --> 00:17:27.995 to personalize the conversation 389 00:17:28.255 --> 00:17:30.315 and, you know, not that you have 390 00:17:30.315 --> 00:17:33.675 to become a expert on their mission statement on their 391 00:17:33.675 --> 00:17:36.115 website or anything like that, but certainly reading it 392 00:17:36.135 --> 00:17:37.675 and understanding what things are important 393 00:17:37.695 --> 00:17:38.715 to the values of the company. 394 00:17:38.885 --> 00:17:40.275 Where did you get that kind of information? 395 00:17:40.275 --> 00:17:43.075 Were you just a Google fiend during that period of time 396 00:17:43.415 --> 00:17:46.595 or were you like using some other sort 397 00:17:46.595 --> 00:17:47.995 of process to figure that out? 398 00:17:49.025 --> 00:17:52.925 Um, you know, using various, uh, news sort news, uh, 399 00:17:53.325 --> 00:17:56.525 websites, you know, if it's a finance related, uh, 400 00:17:56.525 --> 00:17:59.125 interview, you know, looking at Bloomberg 401 00:17:59.185 --> 00:18:00.645 or, you know, Financial Times. 402 00:18:01.025 --> 00:18:02.325 Uh, i, I believe our, 403 00:18:02.705 --> 00:18:04.885 the master's program gave us a free subscription in the 404 00:18:04.885 --> 00:18:07.485 Financial Times, so that was quite helpful in a few cases. 405 00:18:08.265 --> 00:18:12.085 Um, other than that, just LinkedIn's obviously great, uh, 406 00:18:12.975 --> 00:18:14.085 posts in that industry. 407 00:18:14.105 --> 00:18:16.445 You know, you can see, uh, you can search that on there, 408 00:18:16.465 --> 00:18:18.405 but Google also always does the job. 409 00:18:18.625 --> 00:18:20.925 So where, wherever you can find it basically. 410 00:18:23.435 --> 00:18:26.635 Absolutely. We've had a question now from, uh, one 411 00:18:26.635 --> 00:18:29.515 of our attendees that I think is a really strong one. 412 00:18:29.615 --> 00:18:30.795 And the question is, 413 00:18:30.795 --> 00:18:32.875 if you were in your sophomore year today, 414 00:18:33.585 --> 00:18:36.195 what would you do different than how it panned out 415 00:18:36.215 --> 00:18:37.555 for you and why? 416 00:18:38.215 --> 00:18:41.715 So, and Alyssa, you have the unfortunate luck of being off, 417 00:18:41.975 --> 00:18:43.315 uh, on your mic right now. 418 00:18:43.375 --> 00:18:44.955 So I'm going to tag you first. 419 00:18:46.715 --> 00:18:50.305 My sophomore year, I would, 420 00:18:51.645 --> 00:18:53.545 one thing that seems kind of random, 421 00:18:53.925 --> 00:18:56.105 but I probably would do, I probably would live a bit closer 422 00:18:56.205 --> 00:19:00.425 to campus 'cause I think, um, I'd lived a little far off 423 00:19:00.425 --> 00:19:02.865 that year and I feel like I could have been more involved on 424 00:19:02.885 --> 00:19:04.345 campus if I was closer, 425 00:19:04.925 --> 00:19:08.345 but I was kind of at the mercy of whatever the nine bus 426 00:19:08.445 --> 00:19:11.985 or whatever I was on, like whenever I could go onto campus. 427 00:19:12.725 --> 00:19:15.145 Um, and then also 428 00:19:16.625 --> 00:19:18.945 probably if I would've had the foresight at that point, 429 00:19:19.545 --> 00:19:23.105 I would've probably slowed down a bit on my science courses 430 00:19:23.285 --> 00:19:25.865 and tried to get a business minor. 431 00:19:26.525 --> 00:19:29.545 Um, 'cause I was close to having a business minor. 432 00:19:29.745 --> 00:19:32.905 I think I had pretty much everything besides accounting 433 00:19:32.965 --> 00:19:36.335 and maybe like one of the, like either macro 434 00:19:36.395 --> 00:19:38.655 or micro econ one of those, I was like pretty close 435 00:19:38.655 --> 00:19:41.975 to just being able to have a minor which doesn't, um, 436 00:19:42.315 --> 00:19:43.855 you know, like make 437 00:19:43.855 --> 00:19:46.055 or break like where I ended up today or anything. 438 00:19:46.075 --> 00:19:47.615 But I think it could have given me 439 00:19:47.615 --> 00:19:48.655 some insight that'd be helpful. 440 00:19:49.435 --> 00:19:53.165 Um, because yeah, ultimately some 441 00:19:53.165 --> 00:19:55.445 of the science classes I was taking were pre-reqs 442 00:19:55.445 --> 00:19:56.725 that I didn't end up needing, 443 00:19:56.725 --> 00:19:59.605 but everything all happens for a reason. 444 00:19:59.785 --> 00:20:00.885 And I think some 445 00:20:00.885 --> 00:20:02.805 of those classes probably helped me today, too. 446 00:20:02.985 --> 00:20:06.645 So, um, but I, I think just listening to the voice, 447 00:20:07.035 --> 00:20:09.965 like if you have doubts about where you're going, 448 00:20:10.595 --> 00:20:13.925 have a conversation about someone who's in that position 449 00:20:14.065 --> 00:20:15.645 and see how they really feel about it. 450 00:20:15.925 --> 00:20:18.405 'cause that was what started to change the script for me. 451 00:20:19.145 --> 00:20:21.765 Um, you know, I had spoke to some people in the, 452 00:20:22.025 --> 00:20:23.325 the dream job I wanted 453 00:20:24.145 --> 00:20:27.325 and was finding out that they weren't as happy in it 454 00:20:27.325 --> 00:20:29.125 as I think I was hoping they would be. 455 00:20:29.585 --> 00:20:32.365 So I think that's really important too, is just asking 456 00:20:32.875 --> 00:20:35.725 them some of the, the real questions if 457 00:20:36.675 --> 00:20:38.075 you need help deciding. 458 00:20:39.325 --> 00:20:41.205 I think that's great. So Fuhang, 459 00:20:41.205 --> 00:20:43.045 what would you do if you could turn back time, 460 00:20:44.245 --> 00:20:45.245 Megan? I, I think I 461 00:20:45.245 --> 00:20:46.755 would do exactly what I did. 462 00:20:46.875 --> 00:20:49.765 I, I think sophomore year for me, I, I was like, 463 00:20:50.045 --> 00:20:52.245 freshman year I was like, okay, I wanna be a physician. 464 00:20:52.345 --> 00:20:54.085 And then towards the end of freshman year, 465 00:20:54.305 --> 00:20:56.445 moving into sophomore year, I was like, okay, 466 00:20:56.445 --> 00:21:00.885 maybe there are things outside of being a physician 467 00:21:00.885 --> 00:21:01.885 that I wanted to explore. 468 00:21:01.945 --> 00:21:05.525 So I spent maybe half a semester finding out that I, 469 00:21:05.625 --> 00:21:07.925 if I wanted to be a lawyer, right? 470 00:21:08.025 --> 00:21:09.645 And so the answer to that was no. 471 00:21:09.665 --> 00:21:12.805 And then I moved more towards the business side 472 00:21:12.805 --> 00:21:15.525 of life sciences and, and I mean, here I am now. 473 00:21:15.585 --> 00:21:19.685 So sophomore year for me was like a, like a cl uh, a time 474 00:21:19.685 --> 00:21:20.965 of career exploration. 475 00:21:21.245 --> 00:21:23.405 I think. Uh, I mean that, that's important, right? 476 00:21:23.505 --> 00:21:26.245 Uh, as you determine what path you're gonna take 477 00:21:27.265 --> 00:21:28.925 for the rest of college and thereafter. 478 00:21:29.745 --> 00:21:31.045 That's a great point. So, 479 00:21:31.065 --> 00:21:33.725 and you, you mentioned the life sciences and I know that you 480 00:21:33.725 --> 00:21:36.765 and Alyssa both became involved in the Center 481 00:21:36.785 --> 00:21:38.725 for the Business of Life Sciences, uh, 482 00:21:38.725 --> 00:21:39.885 which is housed in the Kelley School 483 00:21:39.885 --> 00:21:43.725 and it's open to students of any major program at IU. 484 00:21:44.035 --> 00:21:45.565 What was that experience like for you? 485 00:21:45.595 --> 00:21:48.005 Like what do you feel like you got out of CBLS? 486 00:21:49.345 --> 00:21:50.525 It, it, it was good. 487 00:21:50.645 --> 00:21:55.125 I, I, I think the center really gave students a good, uh, 488 00:21:55.755 --> 00:21:58.165 understanding and context of 489 00:21:58.385 --> 00:22:01.205 how the life sciences industry operates. 490 00:22:01.445 --> 00:22:03.765 So there's two courses when, when Alyssa 491 00:22:03.905 --> 00:22:06.045 and I were in the program, right? 492 00:22:06.065 --> 00:22:07.605 And, and in each of these classes, 493 00:22:08.205 --> 00:22:10.405 industry professionals from every single area 494 00:22:10.425 --> 00:22:11.685 of the industry would come in 495 00:22:11.685 --> 00:22:13.885 and talk to you about what they did. 496 00:22:13.945 --> 00:22:17.885 And, and that gave us great understanding into the, the, 497 00:22:17.905 --> 00:22:19.165 the possibilities 498 00:22:19.465 --> 00:22:21.605 and the options of jobs that are out there. 499 00:22:21.685 --> 00:22:23.805 I, I think normally people just think of like, 500 00:22:23.805 --> 00:22:25.405 maybe like marketing, finance, right? 501 00:22:25.405 --> 00:22:27.725 But there's so many other things in the life sciences 502 00:22:28.045 --> 00:22:31.005 industry that the courses in the center really gave 503 00:22:31.005 --> 00:22:32.405 us exposure to. 504 00:22:32.465 --> 00:22:34.125 So that was very helpful. 505 00:22:34.665 --> 00:22:36.725 And then there were, I mean, at AbbVie, right? 506 00:22:36.725 --> 00:22:40.925 There were, there was a, um, speaker that came from AbbVie 507 00:22:40.925 --> 00:22:42.245 that spoke in one of our classes. 508 00:22:42.625 --> 00:22:44.525 And I mean, I've been at AbbVie now, 509 00:22:44.595 --> 00:22:46.165 I've been connecting with her. 510 00:22:46.225 --> 00:22:47.805 So it's important right, in networking 511 00:22:47.805 --> 00:22:50.285 to keep the connection going 512 00:22:50.465 --> 00:22:53.365 and to, um, yeah, to just lean into the resources 513 00:22:53.365 --> 00:22:55.765 that you have around you to have that connection. 514 00:22:57.205 --> 00:22:59.905 Oh, great. (Alyssa Claymiller) I 100% percent agree. 515 00:23:01.135 --> 00:23:03.665 What was one of my favorite things about 516 00:23:03.665 --> 00:23:07.185 that program was it opened my eyes to so many positions 517 00:23:07.185 --> 00:23:10.425 that I didn't even realize were available. 518 00:23:11.125 --> 00:23:13.545 Um, I came from a small town in Indiana 519 00:23:14.245 --> 00:23:19.105 and you know, realistically, like if you were one 520 00:23:19.105 --> 00:23:20.865 of the brighter kids, they kind of were like, okay, 521 00:23:20.865 --> 00:23:23.505 are you gonna be a doctor or a lawyer that was kind of like the, 522 00:23:24.015 --> 00:23:26.395 like wheelhouse they put you down. 523 00:23:26.775 --> 00:23:30.155 So, but when I, I realized like that there was so much more, 524 00:23:30.395 --> 00:23:33.835 'cause it brings you through everything from research, 525 00:23:34.345 --> 00:23:36.355 like the years and years of research that happens 526 00:23:36.415 --> 00:23:38.715 before a med even gets to the stage 527 00:23:38.715 --> 00:23:40.235 where it can get FDA approved 528 00:23:40.735 --> 00:23:42.795 and they had people from the FDA come in 529 00:23:42.855 --> 00:23:47.205 and then go into all the different types of medications 530 00:23:47.225 --> 00:23:48.725 and devices that are out there. 531 00:23:49.265 --> 00:23:51.445 Um, and then even post-market stuff. 532 00:23:51.465 --> 00:23:55.085 So it really gives you a broad, uh, idea of 533 00:23:55.085 --> 00:23:56.085 what all is out there. 534 00:23:56.465 --> 00:23:57.885 The other thing I really like too is 535 00:23:57.885 --> 00:23:59.965 that it is like professionals out there. 536 00:24:00.085 --> 00:24:04.685 I think sometimes, you know, we just have our professors, 537 00:24:05.185 --> 00:24:06.885 um, like for the whole semester 538 00:24:07.025 --> 00:24:09.205 and we got, it was either two 539 00:24:09.305 --> 00:24:12.845 or three different presentations in each class, um, 540 00:24:13.725 --> 00:24:17.015 that were all from people out in the field out 541 00:24:17.015 --> 00:24:18.415 in their profession. 542 00:24:18.415 --> 00:24:21.695 So I feel like you just got such like excitement 543 00:24:21.695 --> 00:24:22.975 and breadth from that. 544 00:24:23.595 --> 00:24:26.335 Um, and it's also like an amazing networking opportunity. 545 00:24:26.475 --> 00:24:28.975 So that's, that was one of the main reasons that I decided 546 00:24:29.035 --> 00:24:31.335 to change my mind and go more that direction. 547 00:24:31.535 --> 00:24:32.975 'cause I like found myself being 548 00:24:33.005 --> 00:24:34.375 excited to go to that class. 549 00:24:35.185 --> 00:24:37.645 Mm-hmm. That's a good, a good indicator. 550 00:24:37.945 --> 00:24:40.245 And James, we'll turn back time with you for a minute. 551 00:24:40.425 --> 00:24:42.365 If there's anything with the sophomore year 552 00:24:42.365 --> 00:24:45.205 that you could remember that you'd change, uh, 553 00:24:45.345 --> 00:24:46.405 as a part of that process? 554 00:24:47.995 --> 00:24:51.055 Um, I kind of, I agree with, uh, what Fuhang said. 555 00:24:51.175 --> 00:24:52.335 I, I wouldn't change a thing. 556 00:24:52.415 --> 00:24:54.855 I certainly, you know, made mistakes earlier in college 557 00:24:54.955 --> 00:24:56.935 of taking a class I shouldn't have, you know, 558 00:24:57.515 --> 00:24:59.255 or whatever you wanna say. 559 00:24:59.435 --> 00:25:01.095 But, uh, roadblocks that came up. 560 00:25:01.155 --> 00:25:02.895 But, you know, they were all important 561 00:25:03.155 --> 00:25:06.495 and, uh, you know, led me to where I am so happy where I am, 562 00:25:06.875 --> 00:25:07.975 so I don't wanna change anything. 563 00:25:09.115 --> 00:25:11.655 So out of the major programs that you all did 564 00:25:11.835 --> 00:25:15.375 or your grad program also, James, in your instance, 565 00:25:15.765 --> 00:25:18.575 what were some of the courses that were really, 566 00:25:18.575 --> 00:25:20.055 really helpful for you that you were like, 567 00:25:20.055 --> 00:25:21.255 yeah, this really worked? 568 00:25:22.785 --> 00:25:25.505 Absolutely. Uh, K201 is one that stands out, kind 569 00:25:25.505 --> 00:25:27.585 of got me, uh, proficient in Excel 570 00:25:27.605 --> 00:25:29.305 and Excel's used in every company. 571 00:25:29.615 --> 00:25:30.985 Just, you gotta know Excel. 572 00:25:31.005 --> 00:25:33.985 So if you want to go into business, uh, pick up that skill. 573 00:25:34.685 --> 00:25:36.585 Uh, another one, uh, 574 00:25:36.895 --> 00:25:39.185 this was undergrad only you asked, right? So Yes, 575 00:25:39.205 --> 00:25:40.205 Yes. Or or you could 576 00:25:40.205 --> 00:25:41.025 also add a course 577 00:25:41.205 --> 00:25:43.305 or two that you had in your grad program that you were like, 578 00:25:43.305 --> 00:25:44.865 this just locked it down for me. 579 00:25:45.135 --> 00:25:47.905 Yeah, sure. So one in grad school that I took was called, 580 00:25:48.045 --> 00:25:50.425 um, cloud-based analytics. 581 00:25:50.445 --> 00:25:54.505 And it went into using Power BI and some SQL skills. 582 00:25:54.725 --> 00:25:56.705 So those are becoming more 583 00:25:56.705 --> 00:26:00.665 and more important, uh, in a lot of businesses being able 584 00:26:00.665 --> 00:26:04.785 to analyze, uh, pull data, analyze data and visualize it. 585 00:26:05.285 --> 00:26:07.305 Uh, so those kind of skills will never 586 00:26:07.845 --> 00:26:09.105 go out of style basically. 587 00:26:09.165 --> 00:26:11.625 So I, you know, try to pick up at least one of those. 588 00:26:12.205 --> 00:26:16.905 Um, other courses that I just enjoyed, uh, 589 00:26:17.125 --> 00:26:19.145 you know, that helped me, uh, 590 00:26:19.145 --> 00:26:20.985 intellectually was just philosophy. 591 00:26:21.105 --> 00:26:24.505 I love philosophy, got, uh, so reading that kind 592 00:26:24.505 --> 00:26:26.465 of stuff was, uh, a, a joy. 593 00:26:28.105 --> 00:26:29.585 Absolutely. How do you see how 594 00:26:29.585 --> 00:26:32.665 that exploration into philosophy has helped you now? 595 00:26:33.135 --> 00:26:35.185 Like in terms of, of what you do day to day, 596 00:26:35.185 --> 00:26:36.945 whether it's work related 597 00:26:37.045 --> 00:26:38.905 or quality of life related, quite frankly. 598 00:26:39.145 --> 00:26:40.425 'cause I think there's a piece of that too. 599 00:26:40.895 --> 00:26:42.305 Yeah, certainly it all, uh, 600 00:26:42.305 --> 00:26:43.445 definitely helped me with writing. 601 00:26:43.725 --> 00:26:45.765 I got a lot better at, you know, with, uh, 602 00:26:45.765 --> 00:26:48.165 this one class I took, you had to write a paper every week. 603 00:26:48.185 --> 00:26:50.045 It was about a 10 page paper every week. 604 00:26:50.145 --> 00:26:52.485 So I got a lot better at writing that semester. 605 00:26:52.625 --> 00:26:55.125 Uh, certainly you have to write a lot in business. 606 00:26:55.225 --> 00:26:57.445 You need to, uh, you know, write drafts 607 00:26:57.445 --> 00:26:59.845 or put together a, you know, an email, 608 00:27:00.005 --> 00:27:03.285 professional email toward, uh, someone maybe higher up 609 00:27:03.465 --> 00:27:06.205 and it's gotta, you know, look good and sound good. 610 00:27:06.305 --> 00:27:07.365 So, yeah. 611 00:27:08.925 --> 00:27:11.325 Absolutely. And Alyssa, were there courses 612 00:27:11.395 --> 00:27:13.685 that were standouts for you during your time? 613 00:27:14.925 --> 00:27:18.465 Um, so what helps me a lot in my current position is my, 614 00:27:18.585 --> 00:27:21.905 I took anatomy, um, it was a teaching assistant for that. 615 00:27:22.135 --> 00:27:23.545 That has really helped me. 616 00:27:24.125 --> 00:27:26.905 Um, I think also a 617 00:27:27.605 --> 00:27:31.585 speech debate type classes can be helpful to, 618 00:27:32.825 --> 00:27:35.805 to learn how to like, take any kind 619 00:27:35.805 --> 00:27:37.645 of topic like they could throw at you and, 620 00:27:37.785 --> 00:27:41.805 and come up with your opinion on it, I think is helpful too. 621 00:27:44.135 --> 00:27:45.895 Absolutely. Fuhang, what do you think? 622 00:27:45.965 --> 00:27:47.775 What were some classes that were standouts? 623 00:27:48.645 --> 00:27:51.965 I think other than the two, uh, Center for the Business 624 00:27:51.965 --> 00:27:53.125 of Life Sciences courses 625 00:27:53.175 --> 00:27:54.885 where the different professionals came in, 626 00:27:54.965 --> 00:27:58.045 I took a class in the O'Neill school on the pharmaceutical 627 00:27:58.525 --> 00:28:00.445 industry, and I think that was really helpful, right? 628 00:28:00.445 --> 00:28:05.245 So that gave me a good understanding of how a drug kind 629 00:28:05.245 --> 00:28:07.605 of moved through, moves through the pipeline, 630 00:28:07.665 --> 00:28:11.445 all the different players of it, um, formulary, just, 631 00:28:11.445 --> 00:28:13.365 just a lot of different things that are, you know, 632 00:28:13.595 --> 00:28:15.645 pillars in the pharmaceutical industry and, 633 00:28:15.645 --> 00:28:19.085 and gives me a good foundation going into the industry. 634 00:28:21.615 --> 00:28:23.555 So I'm gonna shift gears here just a little bit. 635 00:28:23.555 --> 00:28:26.355 Alyssa, you talked about a study abroad experience, 636 00:28:26.455 --> 00:28:28.995 and I'd love for you to elaborate more on that. 637 00:28:29.215 --> 00:28:31.435 And if, if either of you Fuhang 638 00:28:31.435 --> 00:28:33.595 or James have experiences like that that you want to say, 639 00:28:33.595 --> 00:28:36.355 or if you wanna encourage a student to do it, uh, please 640 00:28:36.695 --> 00:28:39.475 by all means, uh, share that, you know, 641 00:28:39.975 --> 00:28:41.355 uh, as we're going through that. 642 00:28:41.355 --> 00:28:43.195 But Alyssa, talk a little bit about that, like 643 00:28:43.195 --> 00:28:46.155 what you got out of that experience, what kind 644 00:28:46.155 --> 00:28:48.435 of stories it gave you to talk to folks about 645 00:28:48.855 --> 00:28:50.155 and then, you know, 646 00:28:50.745 --> 00:28:52.395 what should people think about if they're thinking about 647 00:28:52.395 --> 00:28:54.115 doing a study abroad type experience? 648 00:28:54.865 --> 00:28:55.865 Yeah, 649 00:28:56.485 --> 00:28:58.705 So I actually got to study abroad twice. 650 00:28:59.185 --> 00:29:02.065 I did a short term study abroad, um, 651 00:29:02.195 --> 00:29:05.305 after my freshman year of college to the Dominican Republic. 652 00:29:05.805 --> 00:29:09.025 Uh, and it covered culture, um, and history. 653 00:29:09.605 --> 00:29:13.265 Um, I forget it was, it, it satisfied one 654 00:29:13.265 --> 00:29:15.425 of my general education requirements. 655 00:29:15.505 --> 00:29:16.745 I forget exactly which one, 656 00:29:16.765 --> 00:29:18.985 but I think it's probably the fun, most fun way 657 00:29:19.365 --> 00:29:20.425 to cover that credit. 658 00:29:20.965 --> 00:29:23.985 Um, so that was my first time out of the country, so 659 00:29:24.175 --> 00:29:25.825 that was an amazing experience. 660 00:29:25.925 --> 00:29:27.585 And we got to go all around the country, 661 00:29:28.005 --> 00:29:29.305 uh, seeing different sites. 662 00:29:29.845 --> 00:29:33.705 Um, and then I did a semester study abroad to Australia, 663 00:29:34.315 --> 00:29:36.105 which was absolutely amazing. 664 00:29:36.265 --> 00:29:37.785 I don't think anything will ever live 665 00:29:37.785 --> 00:29:38.825 up to it in my whole life. 666 00:29:39.325 --> 00:29:44.125 Um, but what some of the skills that I gained from that, 667 00:29:44.125 --> 00:29:47.485 that I could bring up in interviews is it really shows 668 00:29:47.485 --> 00:29:51.565 that you're adaptable, um, and willing to accept change. 669 00:29:52.225 --> 00:29:57.085 Um, and inherently you just, the more you see of the world, 670 00:29:57.225 --> 00:29:58.405 the more you understand. 671 00:29:59.305 --> 00:30:04.175 Um, and can, can have like things to speak about 672 00:30:04.175 --> 00:30:05.335 with, you know, I'll run in 673 00:30:05.335 --> 00:30:07.495 or like say I meet someone from New Zealand 674 00:30:07.595 --> 00:30:10.415 and I can talk about my, the time that I studied abroad 675 00:30:10.415 --> 00:30:11.495 and was over there too. 676 00:30:12.075 --> 00:30:14.535 It just really makes the world feel more connected. 677 00:30:15.035 --> 00:30:17.615 Um, and getting to see different ways 678 00:30:17.615 --> 00:30:20.375 of life is always really helpful for, um, 679 00:30:21.035 --> 00:30:22.055 for studying abroad. 680 00:30:22.195 --> 00:30:24.495 The sooner you can start planning, the better. 681 00:30:24.995 --> 00:30:28.295 Um, I'm actually a big proponent of trying to study abroad 682 00:30:28.635 --> 00:30:29.895 as early as possible 683 00:30:30.165 --> 00:30:34.415 because it makes it easier with your credit, um, transfers 684 00:30:34.415 --> 00:30:37.695 because the longer you wait, the more specific kind 685 00:30:37.695 --> 00:30:40.055 of classes you're getting into at the end of your major. 686 00:30:40.555 --> 00:30:43.775 So in the beginning is definitely a good way to do it. 687 00:30:43.775 --> 00:30:46.535 And a lot of your scholarships can go abroad with you, too, 688 00:30:46.635 --> 00:30:48.055 if you do have those. 689 00:30:51.835 --> 00:30:53.075 I never studied abroad. 690 00:30:53.455 --> 00:30:55.675 Um, I was going to, but, 691 00:30:55.775 --> 00:30:57.835 and then COVID happened, so I didn't. 692 00:30:58.495 --> 00:30:59.675 But I think it's not, 693 00:30:59.945 --> 00:31:01.915 it's not necessarily about study abroad, 694 00:31:01.985 --> 00:31:03.355 it's just about these like types 695 00:31:03.375 --> 00:31:06.875 of experiential learning experiences that gives you more 696 00:31:06.875 --> 00:31:07.955 to speak to, right? 697 00:31:07.955 --> 00:31:11.115 Gives you more life experience 698 00:31:11.175 --> 00:31:13.715 and opportunities to hone in these like, skills 699 00:31:13.735 --> 00:31:18.635 of communication, teamwork, um, things like that. 700 00:31:18.735 --> 00:31:20.675 So wh whether you study abroad 701 00:31:20.675 --> 00:31:22.235 or don't study abroad, it's important 702 00:31:22.235 --> 00:31:24.195 to lean into these experiences 703 00:31:24.195 --> 00:31:25.795 that you've had in your life, right? 704 00:31:25.795 --> 00:31:28.675 Whether it's, whether it is study abroad, right? 705 00:31:28.675 --> 00:31:31.875 Whether you're in an organization, whether you're, you know, 706 00:31:31.875 --> 00:31:34.275 in a, in a team project, right? 707 00:31:34.385 --> 00:31:37.275 What, what are these, these like stories 708 00:31:37.305 --> 00:31:41.235 that you can tell people to highlight who you are? 709 00:31:44.895 --> 00:31:46.075 Fuhang, that's a great story 710 00:31:46.135 --> 00:31:47.555 and I, you're absolutely right, 711 00:31:47.575 --> 00:31:49.795 you all would've been right in the middle of that COVID 712 00:31:50.295 --> 00:31:51.915 and would have really struggled from that. 713 00:31:51.975 --> 00:31:54.875 So that makes a ton of sense actually within that. 714 00:31:55.295 --> 00:31:57.635 So that's great. James, anything to throw in there? 715 00:31:59.405 --> 00:32:01.265 I'd say Fuhang said it better than I 716 00:32:01.265 --> 00:32:02.265 would. 717 00:32:04.775 --> 00:32:06.465 Well done. So it does seem 718 00:32:06.465 --> 00:32:08.945 to be really important this collection of the stories 719 00:32:08.945 --> 00:32:10.345 through your undergrad experience 720 00:32:10.345 --> 00:32:12.865 that when you're walking into this thing, you're looking 721 00:32:12.865 --> 00:32:14.465 to make a connection with a person, right? 722 00:32:14.465 --> 00:32:15.785 Because that's part of the networking piece. 723 00:32:16.125 --> 00:32:18.345 But then you're also trying to figure out how to extrapolate 724 00:32:18.345 --> 00:32:19.465 what you've learned inside 725 00:32:19.465 --> 00:32:21.625 and outside the classroom to talk to those folks 726 00:32:21.625 --> 00:32:23.145 because they also wanna know that you know, 727 00:32:23.145 --> 00:32:24.265 your stuff, right? 728 00:32:24.325 --> 00:32:26.145 As you're going into this and as you've looked at 729 00:32:26.145 --> 00:32:29.665 that process, you know, as you all are looking to 730 00:32:29.665 --> 00:32:31.745 what your next move might be, right? 731 00:32:31.925 --> 00:32:34.305 In your career, what are some of the things 732 00:32:34.305 --> 00:32:35.705 that you think are fundamentals 733 00:32:35.705 --> 00:32:38.505 that maybe were missing from your undergrad degree 734 00:32:38.505 --> 00:32:40.485 that you think that you ought to put back in? 735 00:32:40.485 --> 00:32:42.605 Like, I know James, you talked about Excel 736 00:32:42.605 --> 00:32:45.205 and about how like you just can't have too much, right? 737 00:32:45.345 --> 00:32:46.765 As you're going through that and, 738 00:32:46.865 --> 00:32:48.045 and building up those skills. 739 00:32:48.745 --> 00:32:52.725 But I'm wondering if there's also other things now like, uh, 740 00:32:53.025 --> 00:32:54.925 you know, thinking about artificial intelligence 741 00:32:54.925 --> 00:32:58.845 and how that's so very, very vastly changing the way 742 00:32:58.845 --> 00:33:00.445 that things are being done now. 743 00:33:00.705 --> 00:33:03.325 Are there things like that, that you all are seeing in your 744 00:33:03.325 --> 00:33:05.525 industries that you're thinking, boy, 745 00:33:05.525 --> 00:33:06.885 if I were in school right now, I would 746 00:33:06.885 --> 00:33:08.005 maybe start to look at this? 747 00:33:08.245 --> 00:33:10.085 'cause I think I'm gonna need that for my next leap. 748 00:33:11.305 --> 00:33:15.075 Yeah, I'd certainly say, uh, like strict coding would, uh, 749 00:33:15.075 --> 00:33:18.995 if I was a genius coder, it would certainly be helpful, uh, 750 00:33:19.255 --> 00:33:20.755 in certain aspects of my job. 751 00:33:21.255 --> 00:33:25.955 Um, but you know, there's tools now where you can kind 752 00:33:25.955 --> 00:33:29.355 of skate by with, uh, you know, limited knowledge of coding. 753 00:33:29.935 --> 00:33:32.115 Um, so if, I mean, if you're interested in it, 754 00:33:32.115 --> 00:33:33.395 it's a great skill to pick up. 755 00:33:33.395 --> 00:33:38.035 So Python or, um, C++, any of these kind of more, 756 00:33:38.095 --> 00:33:41.875 uh, you know, usable, uh, coding languages, 757 00:33:42.015 --> 00:33:44.195 I'd certainly recommend at least having 758 00:33:44.355 --> 00:33:45.635 a baseline knowledge about. 759 00:33:45.735 --> 00:33:47.555 Or, uh, if you're super interested, 760 00:33:47.555 --> 00:33:48.595 maybe pick it up completely. 761 00:33:48.775 --> 00:33:49.775 So 762 00:33:52.665 --> 00:33:53.965 I'm in marketing and sales 763 00:33:54.345 --> 00:33:59.285 and I, I, I think the digital marketing stuff, I, I, 764 00:33:59.485 --> 00:34:01.725 I think that would be really valuable for 765 00:34:02.885 --> 00:34:04.205 students right now to hone in. 766 00:34:04.285 --> 00:34:07.845 I I think it's, it's definitely blooming in the industry 767 00:34:08.025 --> 00:34:10.435 and, um, that will have a lot 768 00:34:10.435 --> 00:34:12.435 of value once you guys graduate. 769 00:34:16.285 --> 00:34:18.945 For me, I don't, there's nothing I can think 770 00:34:18.945 --> 00:34:20.345 of in particular. 771 00:34:20.845 --> 00:34:24.665 Um, what I would say is just making 772 00:34:25.295 --> 00:34:28.865 like certain, you're choosing a company that gives the 773 00:34:29.585 --> 00:34:31.345 resources if you wanna continue to learn. 774 00:34:31.965 --> 00:34:36.935 Um, so I think, like, personally I think out 775 00:34:36.935 --> 00:34:40.255 of college, one of the best sized companies to try to shoot 776 00:34:40.255 --> 00:34:41.495 for is mid to large. 777 00:34:41.815 --> 00:34:44.335 'cause they'll have more resources for you 778 00:34:44.335 --> 00:34:45.855 to do continued education. 779 00:34:46.555 --> 00:34:49.455 Um, but also sometimes smaller companies, 780 00:34:49.455 --> 00:34:50.455 you're wearing a lot of hats 781 00:34:50.455 --> 00:34:52.095 and you kind of get forced to learn very quickly. 782 00:34:52.315 --> 00:34:56.175 So, but I think it's important that when you're interviewing 783 00:34:56.235 --> 00:34:59.655 to, to ask what kind of continued learning they have, um, 784 00:34:59.655 --> 00:35:02.135 because ideally they, they have the resources there 785 00:35:02.135 --> 00:35:03.935 to help set you up for the next position. 786 00:35:10.125 --> 00:35:11.245 Absolutely. That's really helpful. 787 00:35:11.465 --> 00:35:15.005 So, so another question that I, I think is helpful to folks, 788 00:35:15.495 --> 00:35:16.685 could you all give us, 789 00:35:17.305 --> 00:35:19.085 and I know that in the world of work, 790 00:35:19.085 --> 00:35:21.405 there is no typical day, right? 791 00:35:21.505 --> 00:35:24.405 But over the course of a week, could you give us an idea 792 00:35:24.405 --> 00:35:27.005 of like three or four job related tasks 793 00:35:27.155 --> 00:35:30.165 that you all are doing, um, that might be helpful in kind 794 00:35:30.165 --> 00:35:33.285 of illustrating what a routine experience might be like in 795 00:35:33.285 --> 00:35:34.525 your particular area. 796 00:35:35.425 --> 00:35:36.805 And, uh, Alyssa, if 797 00:35:36.805 --> 00:35:38.845 we wanna start with you and then Fuhang and then James. 798 00:35:39.805 --> 00:35:43.935 Yeah, so my typical day, which 799 00:35:44.615 --> 00:35:47.975 I cover a territory, basically all of northern Indiana, 800 00:35:48.395 --> 00:35:49.775 so about from Carmel, 801 00:35:49.795 --> 00:35:51.735 and then Michigan City is about the furthest west I go. 802 00:35:51.815 --> 00:35:53.255 I'm in a hotel right now. 803 00:35:53.455 --> 00:35:55.455 I usually am not traveling for work, 804 00:35:55.515 --> 00:35:58.575 but it is a component, um, if I don't wanna drive two 805 00:35:58.575 --> 00:36:01.015 and a half hours in the morning to get down to Indy. 806 00:36:01.475 --> 00:36:05.005 But, um, I would say normal part 807 00:36:05.005 --> 00:36:06.805 of my day is I'm in multiple 808 00:36:07.445 --> 00:36:09.205 surgeries helping assist the surgeon, 809 00:36:09.545 --> 00:36:10.605 uh, during that procedure. 810 00:36:10.705 --> 00:36:12.645 So it could be a hysterectomy 811 00:36:12.745 --> 00:36:14.925 or they're taking someone's gallbladder out, 812 00:36:15.005 --> 00:36:18.125 a cholecystectomy, um, helping support them, 813 00:36:18.745 --> 00:36:19.925 um, with the robot. 814 00:36:19.955 --> 00:36:21.445 It's a big piece of equipment. 815 00:36:21.545 --> 00:36:25.125 So being a support to them, helping teach them anything, um, 816 00:36:25.555 --> 00:36:28.885 that they don't know, um, like about it. 817 00:36:29.505 --> 00:36:31.285 Um, and then also another piece 818 00:36:31.315 --> 00:36:34.085 that we do is working with the residents. 819 00:36:34.225 --> 00:36:38.445 So now residents learn, um, robotics, uh, 820 00:36:38.455 --> 00:36:39.685 while they're going through that. 821 00:36:39.865 --> 00:36:41.965 So helping assist with that 822 00:36:41.985 --> 00:36:45.725 and also training up new surgeons, um, and then sometimes 823 00:36:45.945 --> 00:36:47.485 and mixed in there is conferences. 824 00:36:48.345 --> 00:36:53.045 Uh, and I will say that even when I graduated college, 825 00:36:53.105 --> 00:36:55.245 if you would've told me I'm, I'd be in the operating room 826 00:36:55.265 --> 00:36:57.605 and I could give a surgeon a suggestion 827 00:36:57.905 --> 00:36:59.445 or help teach on something, 828 00:36:59.565 --> 00:37:00.805 I just wouldn't have believed you. 829 00:37:00.905 --> 00:37:02.285 So, uh, 830 00:37:02.705 --> 00:37:05.005 but yeah, every day is a little bit different, uh, 831 00:37:05.005 --> 00:37:07.605 different hospitals, but yeah, 832 00:37:07.865 --> 00:37:09.205 that's typically what it's like. 833 00:37:13.765 --> 00:37:15.425 So I'm in sales right now, right? 834 00:37:15.445 --> 00:37:18.705 And in sales, I, I mean, like Alyssa said, 835 00:37:19.235 --> 00:37:20.945 every day is very different in sales. 836 00:37:21.325 --> 00:37:25.105 Um, in pharmaceutical sales, I'm probably going 837 00:37:25.125 --> 00:37:28.825 to an office, you know, trying to, you know, see the doctor 838 00:37:29.715 --> 00:37:33.265 share about my, my drug with a doctor 839 00:37:33.485 --> 00:37:35.785 and maybe having lunch with a doctor 840 00:37:36.045 --> 00:37:37.585 and maybe there's a dinner program. 841 00:37:37.615 --> 00:37:38.785 There's like a variety 842 00:37:38.885 --> 00:37:41.865 of different d different things we can do to kind 843 00:37:41.865 --> 00:37:43.825 of share our product to the physician. 844 00:37:44.255 --> 00:37:45.785 When I was in, in marketing 845 00:37:45.785 --> 00:37:48.985 and market research, so a more like in-house, like a, 846 00:37:49.095 --> 00:37:51.105 like a office corporate job. 847 00:37:52.005 --> 00:37:55.825 Um, uh, and, and that was a lot of meetings, right? 848 00:37:55.945 --> 00:37:58.465 A lot of meetings to push different projects forward. 849 00:37:58.885 --> 00:38:03.495 And I, I I, I think in both sales 850 00:38:03.715 --> 00:38:06.295 and in these marketing market research, kind 851 00:38:06.295 --> 00:38:09.975 of in-house capacity, it's really about you and, 852 00:38:09.995 --> 00:38:11.935 and how you push projects forward, right? 853 00:38:11.955 --> 00:38:13.895 You dictate your day and, 854 00:38:13.955 --> 00:38:16.695 and kind of, you know, who you need to meet with, 855 00:38:16.715 --> 00:38:20.615 who you need to talk to, and, um, and, 856 00:38:20.615 --> 00:38:22.255 and you move projects forward that way. 857 00:38:26.235 --> 00:38:28.805 Yeah, I'd really, uh, hone in on what Fuhang said 858 00:38:28.805 --> 00:38:31.285 with the meetings, a lot of meetings every day. 859 00:38:31.865 --> 00:38:34.765 Um, at least for me personally, you know, we, uh, 860 00:38:35.045 --> 00:38:38.565 I work remotely a lot, so a lot of teams calls, uh, 861 00:38:38.635 --> 00:38:40.605 with either directors, managers, you know, 862 00:38:40.605 --> 00:38:43.805 going over certain reports that I've, uh, put together, uh, 863 00:38:43.905 --> 00:38:45.605 for, you know, various events 864 00:38:45.905 --> 00:38:49.445 or, um, you know, projects on our team 865 00:38:49.445 --> 00:38:50.725 that we're, we're working towards. 866 00:38:51.425 --> 00:38:53.005 Uh, but my kind of, you know, daily 867 00:38:53.605 --> 00:38:56.045 responsibilities is I cover Africa, India in the middle, 868 00:38:56.305 --> 00:38:58.845 Africa, India, in the Middle East, uh, for pricing. 869 00:38:59.265 --> 00:39:01.005 And so I'm looking at, uh, markets 870 00:39:01.145 --> 00:39:03.245 and just making sure that we stay competitive with, 871 00:39:03.305 --> 00:39:04.845 uh, American and Delta. 872 00:39:05.105 --> 00:39:08.365 So, um, it's kind of a, you know, there are, 873 00:39:08.365 --> 00:39:11.165 there are certain aspects of my job, which are routine, 874 00:39:11.165 --> 00:39:12.765 and then there are certain aspects which 875 00:39:12.785 --> 00:39:13.965 are change every day. 876 00:39:14.065 --> 00:39:15.725 So it's a good mix of both 877 00:39:15.825 --> 00:39:20.525 and, uh, yeah, changes by the, I'd say by the month mostly. 878 00:39:22.325 --> 00:39:26.065 That's super helpful. So now thinking about back 879 00:39:26.065 --> 00:39:27.545 to your college days, right? 880 00:39:27.725 --> 00:39:30.665 So as you were doing this, what were the kinds of clubs 881 00:39:30.685 --> 00:39:32.785 and organizations that you became a part of 882 00:39:32.785 --> 00:39:34.345 that maybe you haven't mentioned yet? 883 00:39:34.845 --> 00:39:37.385 Or how did they change from when you were in your first 884 00:39:37.385 --> 00:39:39.345 or second year until a later part of the year? 885 00:39:39.345 --> 00:39:40.585 Because I, one of the things 886 00:39:40.585 --> 00:39:42.345 that I think is really interesting about the college 887 00:39:42.345 --> 00:39:44.345 experience is that a student might be involved in something 888 00:39:44.345 --> 00:39:46.425 in their first year and then be involved in something 889 00:39:46.425 --> 00:39:48.025 completely different that they love 890 00:39:48.085 --> 00:39:49.905 by their senior year. 891 00:39:49.905 --> 00:39:52.865 So it, uh, James, if you wanna jump back into this 892 00:39:53.085 --> 00:39:54.745 and tell us a little bit about some of those things 893 00:39:54.745 --> 00:39:57.865 that you were involved in that you found valuable outside 894 00:39:57.885 --> 00:39:59.185 of the classroom. 895 00:40:02.315 --> 00:40:04.895 Uh, sure. I wasn't in too many clubs. 896 00:40:05.095 --> 00:40:07.295 I did take part in the economics club 897 00:40:07.555 --> 00:40:10.055 and the, you know, I, I think I touched on that. 898 00:40:10.095 --> 00:40:12.935 I was a undergraduate instructor for economics. 899 00:40:13.475 --> 00:40:16.535 Um, other than that, I didn't, I didn't really play sports 900 00:40:16.595 --> 00:40:19.935 for the school or I wasn't really part of any intramural, 901 00:40:19.985 --> 00:40:21.855 intramural or that kind of stuff. 902 00:40:22.555 --> 00:40:24.615 Um, from when I was there. 903 00:40:24.635 --> 00:40:27.375 Things mostly stayed the same, I'd say, up 904 00:40:27.375 --> 00:40:28.455 until COVID, of course. 905 00:40:28.635 --> 00:40:30.335 And then, uh, you know, 906 00:40:30.355 --> 00:40:32.855 didn't really do much from then on, uh, in the school. 907 00:40:33.215 --> 00:40:35.135 I was, uh, virtual for most of junior year 908 00:40:35.475 --> 00:40:37.935 and then, uh, back a little bit of senior year. 909 00:40:38.115 --> 00:40:42.175 So I would say not much changed, uh, from least freshmen 910 00:40:42.175 --> 00:40:44.495 to senior, but certainly was fun. 911 00:40:44.595 --> 00:40:48.475 And those experiences helped. 912 00:40:49.245 --> 00:40:50.245 Yes. And Alyssa? 913 00:40:50.245 --> 00:40:50.425 914 00:40:52.205 --> 00:40:56.905 So I was around my freshman year, I was a part 915 00:40:56.905 --> 00:40:59.905 of the Jill Behrman 5K Color Run. 916 00:41:00.565 --> 00:41:02.305 Um, I did that for a few years. 917 00:41:03.125 --> 00:41:07.065 And then, I'm trying to think what all I did, I, a lot of, 918 00:41:07.575 --> 00:41:08.705 part of what I did too 919 00:41:08.735 --> 00:41:10.225 that I don't know if everyone knows about, 920 00:41:10.245 --> 00:41:12.905 but you can be like a test participant if 921 00:41:12.905 --> 00:41:14.425 for different scientific studies. 922 00:41:14.665 --> 00:41:16.505 I liked to do that as a little bit 923 00:41:16.505 --> 00:41:17.945 of extra cash when I was in college. 924 00:41:18.765 --> 00:41:21.825 Um, and then I usually had a job going on. 925 00:41:21.825 --> 00:41:24.385 I, I don't know if we can consider that an extracurricular? 926 00:41:24.385 --> 00:41:27.975 Yeah. Heck yeah. (Alyssa Claymiller) Um, yeah, as, like I said, 927 00:41:28.375 --> 00:41:32.815 I was a teaching assistant for, um, anatomy, um, 928 00:41:32.815 --> 00:41:34.845 then I stu study abroad office. 929 00:41:35.065 --> 00:41:38.045 And then because of that job ended up getting, uh, 930 00:41:38.965 --> 00:41:41.125 a job at the Office of Equity, Diversity 931 00:41:41.145 --> 00:41:42.445 and Multicultural Affairs 932 00:41:42.625 --> 00:41:44.245 to help them select which 933 00:41:44.245 --> 00:41:46.565 scholarships, um, they were giving out. 934 00:41:47.145 --> 00:41:48.605 And then other than that, I'm trying to think, 935 00:41:48.685 --> 00:41:49.925 I did intramural volleyball. 936 00:41:50.125 --> 00:41:53.085 I feel like it's always, if you can, to have one 937 00:41:53.085 --> 00:41:56.845 that's just purely fun, um, like in social, I feel like 938 00:41:56.845 --> 00:41:58.565 that's good to have if you have time 939 00:41:58.565 --> 00:41:59.605 for it in your schedule. 940 00:42:00.305 --> 00:42:04.285 And then, um, I also did like a volunteer kind of program. 941 00:42:04.355 --> 00:42:08.325 Like it was, I took a grant writing class, um, 942 00:42:08.585 --> 00:42:12.505 and so like, it was required to do so many hours 943 00:42:12.525 --> 00:42:15.065 of volunteering, and then you, at the end, 944 00:42:15.065 --> 00:42:16.945 you'd write a grant for the organization. 945 00:42:17.125 --> 00:42:19.705 So I did the volunteering at My Sister's Closet. 946 00:42:20.455 --> 00:42:22.145 It's a really cool organization. 947 00:42:22.325 --> 00:42:23.945 Um, you can get business clothes there. 948 00:42:23.945 --> 00:42:25.545 It's essentially like a thrift store, 949 00:42:25.685 --> 00:42:30.505 but the proceeds go to helping, uh, women get, uh, 950 00:42:30.635 --> 00:42:32.665 fulfilling careers and employment. 951 00:42:32.765 --> 00:42:36.025 So I recommend going there. 952 00:42:39.355 --> 00:42:41.635 I did a bunch of, um, like, 953 00:42:41.635 --> 00:42:45.155 like student leadership type things, like, like 954 00:42:45.155 --> 00:42:46.915 with the union board, right? 955 00:42:47.135 --> 00:42:49.395 Um, like events 956 00:42:49.415 --> 00:42:51.595 and different leadership opportunities for students. 957 00:42:51.875 --> 00:42:53.915 I, I, I think it's pretty consistent, um, 958 00:42:54.585 --> 00:42:56.035 from freshman to senior year. 959 00:42:56.845 --> 00:42:58.545 That's great. That's really great. 960 00:42:58.725 --> 00:43:01.225 So I think, uh, what are some of the things 961 00:43:01.225 --> 00:43:03.225 that you all have found in terms 962 00:43:03.225 --> 00:43:05.265 of transitioning into the communities 963 00:43:05.265 --> 00:43:06.305 that you live in right now? 964 00:43:06.375 --> 00:43:08.385 Like, how have you created communities 965 00:43:08.385 --> 00:43:09.425 or created friendships? 966 00:43:09.425 --> 00:43:10.665 Really outside? 967 00:43:10.665 --> 00:43:12.825 Because that's something that I do hear from some 968 00:43:12.825 --> 00:43:16.745 of our recent grads sometimes is, "man, it was really hard 969 00:43:16.745 --> 00:43:18.465 to get connected to folks right away." 970 00:43:18.485 --> 00:43:21.025 And certainly you always have your Hoosier family, right? 971 00:43:21.405 --> 00:43:23.385 But sometimes it's hard to get to alumni events 972 00:43:23.405 --> 00:43:24.465 and to do those sorts of things. 973 00:43:24.885 --> 00:43:26.625 And sometimes the folks going to, 974 00:43:26.625 --> 00:43:28.505 those aren't necessarily the younger alumni, right? 975 00:43:28.525 --> 00:43:29.945 Who you might want to connect with. 976 00:43:30.165 --> 00:43:31.185 How have you all done that? 977 00:43:31.255 --> 00:43:34.545 Like how have you expanded your circles now that you're in 978 00:43:35.225 --> 00:43:36.505 a different life period? 979 00:43:39.655 --> 00:43:42.675 Oh, yeah. Fuhang. You go ahead. I see you thinking. 980 00:43:43.755 --> 00:43:47.695 Um, I, I think it depends, depends on what city you're in 981 00:43:47.795 --> 00:43:50.935 and, and different ways to meet people, um, 982 00:43:51.875 --> 00:43:53.295 are better in different cities. 983 00:43:53.485 --> 00:43:55.255 Like, so I'm in Raleigh right now 984 00:43:55.315 --> 00:43:57.695 and Meetup is a big thing in Raleigh. 985 00:43:57.955 --> 00:44:00.255 Mm-hmm. Raleigh has a lot of young professionals. 986 00:44:00.315 --> 00:44:02.495 So I, I think Meetup is a good way to meet people here. 987 00:44:02.555 --> 00:44:05.415 Or there's tons of like random 988 00:44:06.465 --> 00:44:07.775 young professional clubs. 989 00:44:08.095 --> 00:44:10.775 I do a lot of running, so there's like a running club every 990 00:44:10.775 --> 00:44:11.815 single day of the week here. 991 00:44:12.205 --> 00:44:13.495 When I was in Chicago, I mean, 992 00:44:13.495 --> 00:44:14.615 there were tons of running club. 993 00:44:14.745 --> 00:44:18.655 There were, I mean, ju just like a lot of different, um, 994 00:44:18.925 --> 00:44:22.645 like opportunities to meet people our age. 995 00:44:23.915 --> 00:44:27.215 That's great. And Alyssa and then James. 996 00:44:27.845 --> 00:44:30.575 Yeah, so I definitely agree with what he said 997 00:44:30.575 --> 00:44:33.805 because when I first graduated I moved to Philadelphia 998 00:44:34.345 --> 00:44:37.365 and I was doing pharmaceutical sales out there, 999 00:44:37.985 --> 00:44:41.125 and then COVID hit and we all went remote. 1000 00:44:41.705 --> 00:44:45.245 And I honestly loved being remote for about two years or so, 1001 00:44:45.385 --> 00:44:48.245 but that's was one of the main things I was missing. 1002 00:44:48.485 --> 00:44:52.365 I felt like I wasn't having like, the social 1003 00:44:53.205 --> 00:44:55.325 capacity that I needed to be happy. 1004 00:44:56.025 --> 00:44:59.325 Um, and at the time I was in a small town Indiana, 1005 00:44:59.435 --> 00:45:00.445 like I moved back. 1006 00:45:00.705 --> 00:45:02.085 And so that was part of it too. 1007 00:45:02.435 --> 00:45:03.525 Like, unless I wanted to hang out 1008 00:45:03.525 --> 00:45:06.205 with people from high school, like that was my options. 1009 00:45:06.945 --> 00:45:10.805 But, um, I think, uh, some of the ways 1010 00:45:10.835 --> 00:45:13.885 that can be fun is even just if you go on Facebook 1011 00:45:13.905 --> 00:45:14.965 and go onto events, 1012 00:45:15.425 --> 00:45:17.125 you can see different events that's going on. 1013 00:45:17.125 --> 00:45:20.765 Like, I've met people from going to like a free yoga class 1014 00:45:20.765 --> 00:45:22.005 that was happening at a park. 1015 00:45:22.465 --> 00:45:26.005 Um, and always just building off of the social circle 1016 00:45:26.005 --> 00:45:27.525 that you have. 1017 00:45:27.525 --> 00:45:31.605 And then also, like Keith said too, uh, Bumble BFF, 1018 00:45:32.185 --> 00:45:34.645 you can find people who have similar interests to you 1019 00:45:34.645 --> 00:45:36.845 because it's not, it depends on where you are. 1020 00:45:37.325 --> 00:45:39.725 I think the bigger city you're in, usually it's easier. 1021 00:45:40.345 --> 00:45:43.845 Um, but if you're in a somewhat small, small place, 1022 00:45:43.865 --> 00:45:46.605 it might might feel harder, especially when we're used 1023 00:45:46.605 --> 00:45:48.285 to just like being in college 1024 00:45:48.345 --> 00:45:50.245 and everyone being around our same age 1025 00:45:50.465 --> 00:45:52.645 and going through a similar phase of life. 1026 00:45:53.265 --> 00:45:57.695 So it's something you have to give more, um, of a 1027 00:45:58.535 --> 00:46:00.255 specific focus in your twenties 1028 00:46:00.995 --> 00:46:03.495 or your twenties once you're out of school. 1029 00:46:04.405 --> 00:46:08.735 Mm-hmm. Uh, yeah, I completely agree. 1030 00:46:08.955 --> 00:46:11.735 Uh, you know, from my grad program, our grad, 1031 00:46:12.155 --> 00:46:15.175 our grad program class was about, I think 60 students, 1032 00:46:15.195 --> 00:46:17.215 and I'd say about half of them went, uh, moved 1033 00:46:17.215 --> 00:46:18.295 to Chicago to work. 1034 00:46:18.715 --> 00:46:21.335 Uh, so I have a pretty good, uh, close knit group 1035 00:46:21.355 --> 00:46:22.575 of friends from that, uh, 1036 00:46:22.575 --> 00:46:23.855 that live here and work in the city. 1037 00:46:24.395 --> 00:46:26.375 And so, you know, I'm thankful for that. 1038 00:46:26.475 --> 00:46:28.695 And other than that, you know, you just meet people 1039 00:46:28.695 --> 00:46:31.255 through work and you meet people, friends of friends 1040 00:46:31.275 --> 00:46:32.855 and, you know, you kind of just grow your circle, 1041 00:46:32.885 --> 00:46:34.615 like she said, uh, over time. 1042 00:46:35.035 --> 00:46:39.015 So, uh, certainly there are other ways to, you know, 1043 00:46:39.195 --> 00:46:41.495 you just, you just randomly meet someone, uh, 1044 00:46:41.595 --> 00:46:43.535 out in like the clubs like they said, 1045 00:46:43.535 --> 00:46:44.935 and those are all good options, but, 1046 00:46:45.995 --> 00:46:48.215 And James, how did you make that decision? 1047 00:46:48.215 --> 00:46:50.335 Like you said you wanted to focus a little bit more tailored 1048 00:46:50.395 --> 00:46:51.455 on the finance piece, right? 1049 00:46:51.595 --> 00:46:55.135 But I'm thinking about you're getting this degree in econ 1050 00:46:55.135 --> 00:46:57.495 and political science and then you decide to stay 1051 00:46:57.495 --> 00:46:59.295 for another year and do this program. 1052 00:46:59.595 --> 00:47:02.815 So what was really kind of the primary drivers for 1053 00:47:02.815 --> 00:47:03.935 that decision making for you? 1054 00:47:03.935 --> 00:47:05.535 Because some folks would say like, listen, 1055 00:47:06.095 --> 00:47:08.495 I have done my undergraduate degree, I am out, 1056 00:47:08.615 --> 00:47:09.895 I wanna be pulling down a salary. 1057 00:47:10.045 --> 00:47:11.785 Like what is up with that? 1058 00:47:11.885 --> 00:47:13.865 So why, why did you decide to wait? 1059 00:47:14.415 --> 00:47:18.905 Yeah, certainly. So I, uh, when I first graduated in 2021, 1060 00:47:18.965 --> 00:47:20.625 it was kind of in that COVID era 1061 00:47:21.245 --> 00:47:23.985 and I didn't feel like I had the end 1062 00:47:23.985 --> 00:47:25.785 of my college experience completely. 1063 00:47:25.925 --> 00:47:27.545 It was kind of, you know, stolen from 1064 00:47:27.545 --> 00:47:28.625 me, whatever you want to call it. 1065 00:47:29.185 --> 00:47:32.085 Um, and so going back for that last year, it was kind of my, 1066 00:47:32.345 --> 00:47:33.405 you know, the true end 1067 00:47:33.405 --> 00:47:35.925 to my co like college career, I guess you could say. 1068 00:47:35.925 --> 00:47:38.445 Mm-hmm. And, uh, really glad I did it 1069 00:47:38.445 --> 00:47:40.765 because it was, you know, 1070 00:47:41.045 --> 00:47:42.525 probably the best best year on campus. 1071 00:47:42.685 --> 00:47:45.565 I had, uh, you know, it was the kind of the surge 1072 00:47:45.565 --> 00:47:48.045 of coming back to IU every, everyone was 1073 00:47:48.045 --> 00:47:49.205 so just happy to be there. 1074 00:47:49.705 --> 00:47:52.045 Um, other than that, you know, 1075 00:47:52.045 --> 00:47:54.645 it was also just, it made sense. 1076 00:47:54.925 --> 00:47:57.085 'cause I, I read some study where, you know, 1077 00:47:57.145 --> 00:48:00.245 in a down economic downturn there, it's a good idea 1078 00:48:00.245 --> 00:48:01.325 to just get more education. 1079 00:48:01.325 --> 00:48:02.685 It's kind of when people go back to school. 1080 00:48:02.825 --> 00:48:07.125 So, um, it's, uh, it was certainly just, 1081 00:48:07.185 --> 00:48:08.965 it looked good from all fronts basically. 1082 00:48:09.345 --> 00:48:13.165 Um, and the program itself, I had, I actually had gotten in, 1083 00:48:13.505 --> 00:48:17.805 uh, the end of my junior year, so I kind of, uh, uh, 1084 00:48:18.005 --> 00:48:20.565 I actually, I think I said yes right at 1085 00:48:20.565 --> 00:48:21.645 the beginning of senior year. 1086 00:48:21.945 --> 00:48:24.685 And, uh, it was just my goal from then on 1087 00:48:24.785 --> 00:48:25.805 to just do that. So, 1088 00:48:26.275 --> 00:48:27.275 Yeah. That makes 1089 00:48:27.275 --> 00:48:27.965 a ton of sense. 1090 00:48:28.105 --> 00:48:31.045 So, well, we just have a few minutes left in our panel, 1091 00:48:31.105 --> 00:48:34.405 so I wanna make sure that I ask our attendees if they have 1092 00:48:34.405 --> 00:48:36.045 any other further questions to please put 1093 00:48:36.045 --> 00:48:37.165 those into the Q&A. 1094 00:48:37.505 --> 00:48:42.245 And I'm gonna ask you all, um, these are young people trying 1095 00:48:42.245 --> 00:48:44.805 to make some decisions, looking at their futures. 1096 00:48:45.195 --> 00:48:47.805 What would be a piece of advice that you would share 1097 00:48:47.805 --> 00:48:49.725 with them, uh, knowing 1098 00:48:49.875 --> 00:48:52.925 that over the next three years they're gonna be figuring out 1099 00:48:53.125 --> 00:48:54.565 a career and getting a job 1100 00:48:54.585 --> 00:48:55.925 and doing all of those different things? 1101 00:48:55.925 --> 00:48:57.805 Right. So that's the final question that I'm gonna ask you. 1102 00:48:58.145 --> 00:49:01.765 In the meantime though, what I would like to ask you all, 1103 00:49:01.765 --> 00:49:04.125 and Alyssa, I'm gonna start with you, is to ask, 1104 00:49:04.545 --> 00:49:06.605 how did you get your first job out of college? 1105 00:49:06.715 --> 00:49:08.285 Like, what's the story of that? 1106 00:49:08.285 --> 00:49:11.125 Because I think that part feels super intimidating 1107 00:49:11.505 --> 00:49:13.925 and we'll go Alyssa, Fuhang, and then James. 1108 00:49:15.855 --> 00:49:18.635 So it's a super stressful time. 1109 00:49:18.975 --> 00:49:20.475 Um, that's another thing too. 1110 00:49:20.735 --> 00:49:22.915 The earlier you can plan for that, the better. 1111 00:49:23.195 --> 00:49:27.315 'cause I started mainly looking for jobs after I graduated. 1112 00:49:27.775 --> 00:49:30.795 Um, and I had actually 1113 00:49:31.355 --> 00:49:33.955 received a job offer from a pretty good place, 1114 00:49:34.135 --> 00:49:36.595 but it was earlier before I graduated, 1115 00:49:36.695 --> 00:49:39.675 but I felt like I didn't wanna take the 1116 00:49:39.835 --> 00:49:40.955 first thing that I got. 1117 00:49:41.655 --> 00:49:45.295 But, um, I think, so mine, 1118 00:49:45.735 --> 00:49:49.775 I am pretty sure I found my first one on LinkedIn. 1119 00:49:49.995 --> 00:49:52.855 It wasn't necessarily like through someone I knew, 1120 00:49:53.335 --> 00:49:54.735 I just was applying for things. 1121 00:49:55.035 --> 00:49:58.455 And the, the more in interviews I had, 1122 00:49:58.475 --> 00:50:00.695 the more it was helping me narrow down 1123 00:50:00.725 --> 00:50:01.935 exactly what I wanted. 1124 00:50:02.555 --> 00:50:04.335 Um, I think I kind of shot 1125 00:50:04.355 --> 00:50:06.135 for the moon a little bit too fast 1126 00:50:06.165 --> 00:50:07.455 that I thought I would be able 1127 00:50:07.455 --> 00:50:09.895 to get like a manager role right outta college. 1128 00:50:10.315 --> 00:50:13.975 So I think, um, it's good to know too that, you know, 1129 00:50:13.975 --> 00:50:15.775 it like we all have to be at the bottom 1130 00:50:15.795 --> 00:50:19.255 of the totem pole at some point, um, and work our way up. 1131 00:50:19.395 --> 00:50:22.755 So, uh, I don't know if 1132 00:50:22.755 --> 00:50:24.395 that makes any sense, but (Megan Ray) Yeah. 1133 00:50:24.655 --> 00:50:27.765 Um, but you can always, like, 1134 00:50:27.955 --> 00:50:29.965 even if you're just interested in something, 1135 00:50:30.025 --> 00:50:31.805 you can always try interviewing for it. 1136 00:50:31.805 --> 00:50:34.085 And if you get an interview, you know, it's always, 1137 00:50:34.755 --> 00:50:36.965 even if you, that ends up not being the one you take, 1138 00:50:37.465 --> 00:50:38.805 you'll learn something from it. 1139 00:50:40.915 --> 00:50:45.155 Absolutely. I found mine on LinkedIn, 1140 00:50:45.855 --> 00:50:48.755 um, fall of senior year 1141 00:50:48.755 --> 00:50:51.155 during the re uh, recruiting cycle. 1142 00:50:51.895 --> 00:50:54.075 AbbVie does a lot of recruiting on campus. 1143 00:50:54.515 --> 00:50:57.235 I, but I, I found mine through a, through LinkedIn. 1144 00:51:05.285 --> 00:51:08.465 Uh, so I got the interview, uh, for my job 1145 00:51:08.465 --> 00:51:10.625 through Handshake, which is a service 1146 00:51:10.695 --> 00:51:12.425 that Indiana University offers. 1147 00:51:13.085 --> 00:51:14.625 Um, it kind of just, it's like, 1148 00:51:14.625 --> 00:51:15.985 it's basically another LinkedIn, 1149 00:51:16.005 --> 00:51:18.865 but it pairs you directly with like the hiring, uh, 1150 00:51:19.085 --> 00:51:21.785 HR person to, to get an interview specifically. 1151 00:51:22.325 --> 00:51:24.185 Uh, it's not, not really for networking. 1152 00:51:24.965 --> 00:51:28.825 Um, so that kind of, you know, led to, 1153 00:51:30.085 --> 00:51:32.745 you know, interview one and that went well, interview two. 1154 00:51:33.365 --> 00:51:34.985 Uh, you know, most of these interviews, 1155 00:51:35.415 --> 00:51:37.305 they're two to three parters. 1156 00:51:37.485 --> 00:51:39.305 Um, you know, so if you're feeling stressed, 1157 00:51:39.775 --> 00:51:40.865 it's completely understandable. 1158 00:51:41.085 --> 00:51:42.185 It is a stressful time, 1159 00:51:42.725 --> 00:51:45.265 but, uh, just in general, it'll work out, you know, 1160 00:51:45.375 --> 00:51:47.665 just take a breath and kind of, uh, 1161 00:51:48.015 --> 00:51:49.305 prepare as well as you can. 1162 00:51:49.445 --> 00:51:51.745 And if you know, the opportunity doesn't work out, 1163 00:51:52.085 --> 00:51:53.545 it wasn't meant to be, you'll get something else. 1164 00:51:53.685 --> 00:51:54.785 So that's what I'd say. 1165 00:51:55.785 --> 00:51:58.305 Absolutely. And James, you've had a specific question roll 1166 00:51:58.375 --> 00:52:02.025 into the Q&A for you asking, was there a specific thing 1167 00:52:02.025 --> 00:52:03.265 that you learned through your econ 1168 00:52:03.265 --> 00:52:05.545 and political science degree that you unexpectedly found 1169 00:52:05.545 --> 00:52:07.585 to be helpful in real world applications? 1170 00:52:10.015 --> 00:52:12.145 There are certainly many things from those 1171 00:52:12.145 --> 00:52:13.145 degrees that help me. 1172 00:52:13.485 --> 00:52:16.545 Um, they were about, 1173 00:52:16.945 --> 00:52:18.625 I don't know if they would be unexpected. 1174 00:52:19.685 --> 00:52:23.025 Um, certainly the econ stuff I used basically every day. 1175 00:52:23.165 --> 00:52:27.185 Mm-hmm. But I guess what was unexpected was just 1176 00:52:27.405 --> 00:52:30.545 how much I actually just enjoyed the material itself. 1177 00:52:30.725 --> 00:52:34.945 Um, you know, reading these, uh, you know, not, 1178 00:52:35.045 --> 00:52:36.185 not really the textbooks, 1179 00:52:36.185 --> 00:52:39.665 but they were more books that kind of talked about, uh, 1180 00:52:40.125 --> 00:52:42.425 the theory behind the thought of economics. 1181 00:52:42.425 --> 00:52:46.665 Right? And so, you know, I now I read, uh, 1182 00:52:47.215 --> 00:52:49.905 econ related books just in my free time. 1183 00:52:50.045 --> 00:52:54.705 So, um, certainly, certainly interesting in of itself. 1184 00:52:54.705 --> 00:52:56.025 And not just from a textbook, 1185 00:52:56.125 --> 00:52:59.585 I'd say the textbook is the most boring part of learning, 1186 00:52:59.845 --> 00:53:03.025 but the, you know, ideas behind them is what's, uh, 1187 00:53:03.805 --> 00:53:05.665 what's actually stimulating. 1188 00:53:06.365 --> 00:53:07.985 That's great. Thanks so much. 1189 00:53:08.885 --> 00:53:11.465 And Alyssa, I, as you're thinking, 1190 00:53:11.495 --> 00:53:13.465 what advice do you have for these folks? 1191 00:53:15.265 --> 00:53:17.345 I think never stop learning. 1192 00:53:17.765 --> 00:53:19.985 Um, always have a curious spirit. 1193 00:53:20.605 --> 00:53:23.065 Um, whether it's just finding a podcast 1194 00:53:23.295 --> 00:53:26.005 that you're interested in, and listening to that on the way 1195 00:53:26.005 --> 00:53:28.605 to work, always have something that you're learning 1196 00:53:28.625 --> 00:53:29.925 and growing. 1197 00:53:29.925 --> 00:53:32.045 Education it just does not stop when you graduate, 1198 00:53:32.505 --> 00:53:33.845 or at least I don't think it should. 1199 00:53:34.025 --> 00:53:36.525 So, um, and find a career 1200 00:53:36.555 --> 00:53:38.965 that challenges you in the right ways, um, 1201 00:53:39.105 --> 00:53:40.285 so that you don't get bored. 1202 00:53:44.155 --> 00:53:47.675 I, I think I would advise you all to really like, 1203 00:53:47.745 --> 00:53:49.475 lean into your college experience 1204 00:53:49.535 --> 00:53:52.675 and really get all that it has to offer, right? 1205 00:53:52.735 --> 00:53:55.635 All the people that you meet in college are gonna be very 1206 00:53:55.635 --> 00:53:56.995 important for you, not only in 1207 00:53:56.995 --> 00:53:58.115 your career, but in your life. 1208 00:53:58.815 --> 00:54:00.315 Um, and then all the experiences 1209 00:54:00.315 --> 00:54:01.475 that will teach you different lessons. 1210 00:54:01.575 --> 00:54:03.555 So just lean into your college experience 1211 00:54:03.895 --> 00:54:08.515 and, um, I mean, what, what James said at the end of, end 1212 00:54:08.515 --> 00:54:09.675 of the last question, right? 1213 00:54:09.815 --> 00:54:12.115 What's to just, just chill out 1214 00:54:12.135 --> 00:54:13.915 and what's yours will come to you and, 1215 00:54:13.975 --> 00:54:15.555 and just go with the flow. 1216 00:54:20.605 --> 00:54:22.865 Any, James, any last advice for students? 1217 00:54:27.335 --> 00:54:31.515 Um, last advice, I, I think I've, uh, 1218 00:54:31.955 --> 00:54:34.755 I think I've basically said, uh, you know, 1219 00:54:34.785 --> 00:54:36.955 I'll say it again, just, it'll be fine. 1220 00:54:37.025 --> 00:54:38.235 Yeah. That's all I can say. 1221 00:54:38.435 --> 00:54:39.595 I don't know how else to say it, 1222 00:54:39.695 --> 00:54:42.995 but, um, yeah, good luck to everyone in this call. So, 1223 00:54:43.425 --> 00:54:45.075 Yeah, I think that's really, really great. 1224 00:54:45.295 --> 00:54:48.875 So I just wanna thank you all so much for your time. 1225 00:54:49.295 --> 00:54:51.235 Uh, and one of the questions 1226 00:54:51.235 --> 00:54:53.235 that squeaked in here at the last minute was, 1227 00:54:53.255 --> 00:54:55.435 did you think you were at a disadvantage looking 1228 00:54:55.495 --> 00:54:58.675 for these kinds of jobs versus someone doing a traditional 1229 00:54:58.955 --> 00:55:00.275 business degree right? 1230 00:55:00.295 --> 00:55:03.795 In that process? And it, I, I heard you all say that, 1231 00:55:03.795 --> 00:55:06.075 like perhaps getting in the door, 1232 00:55:06.535 --> 00:55:09.515 it may have been a little bit easier, but maybe not, right? 1233 00:55:09.625 --> 00:55:11.795 Like, because you had such a unique perspective 1234 00:55:12.475 --> 00:55:13.955 James, what do you think? 1235 00:55:16.875 --> 00:55:18.935 Um, for getting in the door 1236 00:55:19.995 --> 00:55:21.895 You know, I, I actually, I, I've never been on the side 1237 00:55:21.895 --> 00:55:23.415 of the hiring manager, so I can't, 1238 00:55:23.575 --> 00:55:25.935 I can't really say if that's true or not. 1239 00:55:26.635 --> 00:55:29.975 Uh, but I do know from what you can control, it's just 1240 00:55:30.075 --> 00:55:31.735 how you craft your own story 1241 00:55:31.875 --> 00:55:34.735 and your kind of, yeah, what, what you are driven by. 1242 00:55:34.995 --> 00:55:37.535 You know, what makes you passionate about the job 1243 00:55:37.535 --> 00:55:38.575 that you're applying for. 1244 00:55:38.995 --> 00:55:41.135 Uh, that's the only thing that you can really control. 1245 00:55:41.155 --> 00:55:44.215 And I would just say to, uh, kind of refine that, you know. 1246 00:55:46.755 --> 00:55:50.015 That's great. And Alyssa, Fuhang, what do you think? 1247 00:55:50.485 --> 00:55:51.775 Yeah, I, I think it's all about 1248 00:55:51.775 --> 00:55:52.895 how you craft your own story. 1249 00:55:53.045 --> 00:55:57.535 When I was, um, like making the transition to a more 1250 00:55:58.375 --> 00:55:59.735 business career path, I mean, 1251 00:55:59.775 --> 00:56:00.975 I was thinking about should I switch 1252 00:56:00.975 --> 00:56:02.215 to a business major, right? 1253 00:56:02.555 --> 00:56:05.735 But I decided that I would stay with a science major 1254 00:56:05.765 --> 00:56:09.015 because I thought, and, 1255 00:56:09.035 --> 00:56:12.895 and I mean that it would gimme a competitive edge, right? 1256 00:56:12.895 --> 00:56:15.375 (Megan Ray) Yeah. I knew everybody else applying to the jobs 1257 00:56:15.375 --> 00:56:18.695 that I wanted to get would be a business major, right? 1258 00:56:18.695 --> 00:56:20.615 There would be very few science majors, 1259 00:56:20.675 --> 00:56:23.055 let alone science majors that knew and, 1260 00:56:23.105 --> 00:56:24.365 and understood the connection 1261 00:56:24.365 --> 00:56:26.005 between the business and the science. 1262 00:56:26.185 --> 00:56:28.165 So really understand your story 1263 00:56:28.225 --> 00:56:31.245 and what your competitive edge is and, um, 1264 00:56:32.365 --> 00:56:33.465 and, and lean into that. 1265 00:56:35.425 --> 00:56:38.715 Yeah. Uh, and for me, I didn't feel disadvantaged 1266 00:56:38.715 --> 00:56:40.515 with having my science degree. 1267 00:56:40.875 --> 00:56:44.555 I think a lot of people respect science degrees. 1268 00:56:44.555 --> 00:56:45.595 They know they're not easy. 1269 00:56:46.215 --> 00:56:51.065 Um, you know, I think specifically in me 1270 00:56:51.065 --> 00:56:55.195 and Fuhang's industries where it's, it is respected too 1271 00:56:55.195 --> 00:56:56.515 to have a background in science. 1272 00:56:57.055 --> 00:57:01.435 Um, some, some positions matter more with how much science 1273 00:57:01.575 --> 00:57:03.275 and how much business there is gonna be. 1274 00:57:03.815 --> 00:57:08.155 But having, I feel like learning science 1275 00:57:08.815 --> 00:57:13.315 in a structured way, like in college is easier to learn. 1276 00:57:13.315 --> 00:57:16.075 tough subjects in school like that, where I feel like a lot 1277 00:57:16.075 --> 00:57:20.795 of business knowledge you can learn either solo 1278 00:57:21.095 --> 00:57:25.605 or, um, like, like figure out what you need 1279 00:57:25.625 --> 00:57:27.965 as you go, um, depending on the role. 1280 00:57:28.665 --> 00:57:31.605 So that's at least how it worked out for me and, 1281 00:57:31.625 --> 00:57:34.285 and I'm happy that, that, that's how I did that things. 1282 00:57:35.715 --> 00:57:37.245 Yeah, it really just depends on like 1283 00:57:37.245 --> 00:57:38.725 where you wanna lean into, right? 1284 00:57:38.825 --> 00:57:41.285 So if you're a, like a science major 1285 00:57:41.305 --> 00:57:43.405 and you wanna lean into a more business role, 1286 00:57:43.595 --> 00:57:47.485 then like then, then, you know, make sure you understand the 1287 00:57:48.285 --> 00:57:51.375 kind of the business transferable skill aspect 1288 00:57:51.475 --> 00:57:52.895 of your science role, right? 1289 00:57:52.915 --> 00:57:55.175 If you're, uh, I mean, just lean into 1290 00:57:55.175 --> 00:57:59.975 what about your profile lends itself to where you want to go 1291 00:58:00.235 --> 00:58:01.975 and, and those skills that can carry you there. 1292 00:58:04.245 --> 00:58:08.775 Absolutely. I can't thank you all enough. I truly can't. 1293 00:58:08.915 --> 00:58:13.575 So I am always humbled by the generosity 1294 00:58:13.795 --> 00:58:14.815 of fellow Hoosiers 1295 00:58:14.955 --> 00:58:18.215 and as an alumna of IU myself, uh, 1296 00:58:18.365 --> 00:58:21.575 from the journalism program many, many decades ago. 1297 00:58:22.255 --> 00:58:24.855 I just wanna thank you all for your time and your energy 1298 00:58:25.235 --> 00:58:26.575 and your enthusiasm 1299 00:58:26.875 --> 00:58:30.055 and appreciate so much your taking time out 1300 00:58:30.055 --> 00:58:32.095 of your schedules to spend time with these students 1301 00:58:32.395 --> 00:58:34.655 and to share your stories, which are inspiring 1302 00:58:34.875 --> 00:58:35.935 and really exciting. 1303 00:58:36.515 --> 00:58:39.055 And I'm thrilled to see what comes next for you all. 1304 00:58:39.155 --> 00:58:40.815 So thank you all so very much. 1305 00:58:41.075 --> 00:58:42.895 I'm gonna go ahead and close our panel this evening. 1306 00:58:43.325 --> 00:58:46.175 Take care and have a very good rest of your day, 1307 00:58:46.175 --> 00:58:47.415 morning or evening. 1308 00:58:47.515 --> 00:58:49.175 Thanks so much. Bye-bye. Awesome. 1309 00:58:49.345 --> 00:58:50.345 (Fuhang Mou) Thank You. 1310 00:58:50.345 --> 00:58:51.695 Thank you. Oh, 1311 00:58:51.695 --> 00:58:54.135 and I guess last little thing I'll say is I'm sure the other 1312 00:58:54.455 --> 00:58:55.455 panelists feel the same. 1313 00:58:55.755 --> 00:58:58.335 You can always feel free to add us on LinkedIn if you have 1314 00:58:59.135 --> 00:59:01.055 anything that we would be able to help with in the future. 1315 00:59:01.595 --> 00:59:03.135 Always willing to help another Hoosier. 1316 00:59:04.115 --> 00:59:08.335 Aw, thanks Alyssa. Great. That's great. Bye.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:19.635 --> 00:00:22.345 Well, hello, welcome. 2 00:00:23.355 --> 00:00:24.945 We're excited to see you here. 3 00:00:27.165 --> 00:00:28.635 Thank you all for being here. 4 00:00:32.555 --> 00:00:34.385 We've just got a few more folks trickling in, 5 00:00:34.385 --> 00:00:36.225 so we'll probably give them just a couple more minutes 6 00:00:36.285 --> 00:00:37.345 if you all could bear with us. 7 00:00:37.485 --> 00:00:41.625 So I am super proud of you all for taking time out 8 00:00:41.625 --> 00:00:45.145 of a precious what is in Bloomington summer evening 9 00:00:45.655 --> 00:00:48.145 when you are on a countdown to get back to school, 10 00:00:48.765 --> 00:00:51.785 to tell you that you are doing great stuff for yourself 11 00:00:51.885 --> 00:00:54.425 by being here to learn a little bit more about this. 12 00:00:54.605 --> 00:00:56.785 So, and I'm so excited for you all to spend time 13 00:00:56.785 --> 00:00:58.465 with my colleague, Trenten Rowlett. 14 00:00:58.845 --> 00:01:00.505 He is awesome, and you all are 15 00:01:00.505 --> 00:01:01.625 gonna have a great experience. 16 00:01:06.285 --> 00:01:08.435 Definitely tell that some of you have already kind 17 00:01:08.435 --> 00:01:11.235 of caught on about the, uh, upcoming poll 18 00:01:11.235 --> 00:01:12.755 that you already probably see on your screen. 19 00:01:13.295 --> 00:01:16.995 Um, so for added clarification, uh, as we're kind 20 00:01:16.995 --> 00:01:19.395 of getting started, since we're talking about career fair 21 00:01:19.395 --> 00:01:20.395 and our confidence 22 00:01:20.395 --> 00:01:22.035 and how to increase it, um, 23 00:01:22.135 --> 00:01:24.155 we thought it would be really helpful for us to know 24 00:01:24.155 --> 00:01:25.155 where people stand. 25 00:01:25.535 --> 00:01:27.955 Um, so if you don't mind, rank your confidence level one 26 00:01:27.955 --> 00:01:31.795 to 10, one being no confidence at all would, maybe, 27 00:01:31.795 --> 00:01:33.355 wouldn't even step into a career fair. 28 00:01:33.415 --> 00:01:36.075 And a 10 being, um, you have zero hesitation. 29 00:01:36.075 --> 00:01:37.795 You'd walk in immediately, you know exactly what to do 30 00:01:37.855 --> 00:01:39.875 and feel a hundred percent comfortable in 31 00:01:39.875 --> 00:01:41.075 how you're gonna navigate it. 32 00:01:43.835 --> 00:01:48.715 Great. Well, 33 00:01:48.715 --> 00:01:51.075 you've slowed down on the admissions Trenten, 34 00:01:51.175 --> 00:01:52.315 so from the waiting room. 35 00:01:52.495 --> 00:01:55.635 So I think whenever you're ready, uh, 36 00:01:55.635 --> 00:01:57.395 and I'll just keep an eye on this to make sure 37 00:01:57.425 --> 00:01:59.595 that nobody gets left behind. 38 00:01:59.905 --> 00:02:02.395 Awesome, thanks. Um, hi everyone. 39 00:02:02.575 --> 00:02:04.915 Um, we wanna welcome you, uh, Megan Ray 40 00:02:05.095 --> 00:02:08.195 and myself, to a webinar specifically talking about career 41 00:02:08.405 --> 00:02:12.355 fairs and, and really just wanting to increase to see, um, 42 00:02:13.255 --> 00:02:16.475 how comfortable you all could be, even more so preparing 43 00:02:16.475 --> 00:02:17.795 for the fall semester to start. 44 00:02:18.455 --> 00:02:20.555 Um, so to give you some introductions, I'll start 45 00:02:20.555 --> 00:02:22.155 with myself and I'll turn it over to Megan. 46 00:02:22.655 --> 00:02:26.475 Uh, my name is Trenten Rowlett and I am a career coach. 47 00:02:26.895 --> 00:02:31.235 Uh, and my specialties are in serving, uh, business, retail 48 00:02:31.735 --> 00:02:33.515 and technological industries. 49 00:02:33.895 --> 00:02:35.955 Uh, and I serve the College of Arts 50 00:02:35.955 --> 00:02:37.195 and Science students on campus. 51 00:02:37.695 --> 00:02:40.635 Um, luckily though I have this like really immense 52 00:02:40.745 --> 00:02:44.635 privilege, uh, with, um, our Assistant Dean Joe Lovejoy, 53 00:02:44.635 --> 00:02:46.555 that we wanna serve as many students 54 00:02:46.575 --> 00:02:47.875 who have interest as possible. 55 00:02:48.215 --> 00:02:50.115 Um, so I actually open up my services 56 00:02:50.175 --> 00:02:52.435 for these industries campus-wide. 57 00:02:52.775 --> 00:02:55.595 Um, so whether you are at Kelley in pre-business 58 00:02:55.735 --> 00:02:59.205 or at Luddy, uh, School of Public Health Education, um, um, 59 00:02:59.425 --> 00:03:01.765 I'm happy to also work with you individually on, 60 00:03:01.785 --> 00:03:03.925 on these industries as well. So I'll turn it over to Megan. 61 00:03:04.465 --> 00:03:06.565 Yes, thanks so much. And my name is Megan Ray 62 00:03:06.745 --> 00:03:08.845 and I'm the director of Kelley Campus Partnerships 63 00:03:09.145 --> 00:03:10.245 at the business school. 64 00:03:10.825 --> 00:03:12.645 And I wanted to just share with you all, I'm 65 00:03:12.645 --> 00:03:13.765 so thrilled you all are here because 66 00:03:13.865 --> 00:03:16.165 as you can see from the results of the poll, 67 00:03:16.625 --> 00:03:19.325 we have a very wide range of places 68 00:03:19.325 --> 00:03:20.925 where folks are at right now, right? 69 00:03:21.105 --> 00:03:23.285 And probably the vast majority 70 00:03:23.305 --> 00:03:24.525 of folks kind of on the fence. 71 00:03:24.595 --> 00:03:27.845 Like I kind of okay with it, but I'm not sure yet. 72 00:03:28.145 --> 00:03:30.605 So our goal is to push you as far 73 00:03:30.665 --> 00:03:33.125 as we can down the scale towards feeling more 74 00:03:33.125 --> 00:03:34.885 confident by the end of this session. 75 00:03:35.105 --> 00:03:37.565 So thank you all so much for choosing to be here, 76 00:03:38.145 --> 00:03:39.885 and we're excited to work with you. 77 00:03:40.475 --> 00:03:41.965 Yeah, very cool. 78 00:03:42.635 --> 00:03:45.485 Okay, so really I think in getting started, we want 79 00:03:45.485 --> 00:03:47.445 to like really hit on, um, 80 00:03:47.715 --> 00:03:50.725 this like dysfunctional, untrue belief in terms of like, 81 00:03:50.955 --> 00:03:52.725 that you might be limited in 82 00:03:52.795 --> 00:03:54.605 what career fairs you can attend. 83 00:03:55.025 --> 00:03:58.125 So if the question is, which fairs can I attend on campus, 84 00:03:58.585 --> 00:04:01.445 the answer is absolutely every single one. 85 00:04:01.985 --> 00:04:04.445 Um, whether it is at Kelley, the College of Arts 86 00:04:04.465 --> 00:04:07.405 and Sciences, Luddy, um, all 87 00:04:07.405 --> 00:04:09.605 of these career service offices are absolutely 88 00:04:09.825 --> 00:04:11.485 so collaborative and, 89 00:04:11.485 --> 00:04:15.285 and wanting to allow everyone to attend a career fair, uh, 90 00:04:15.355 --> 00:04:18.205 that best serves their career paths 91 00:04:18.205 --> 00:04:19.365 and their own life design. 92 00:04:19.945 --> 00:04:23.565 Um, but sometimes we know that there are challenges, right, 93 00:04:23.565 --> 00:04:25.485 that come along with that process. 94 00:04:26.145 --> 00:04:27.245 Uh, and what we found is 95 00:04:27.245 --> 00:04:29.405 that there are probably a few specific steps 96 00:04:29.405 --> 00:04:31.565 that if you want to really knock it out of the park, 97 00:04:32.025 --> 00:04:34.685 if you wanna attend a career fair, regardless 98 00:04:34.745 --> 00:04:38.565 of which school you belong, um, these steps might help you 99 00:04:38.565 --> 00:04:42.365 to do it in the, the absolute maximized impact way possible. 100 00:04:42.825 --> 00:04:45.565 So really those five steps are one, you gotta register. 101 00:04:46.065 --> 00:04:47.965 Um, we're gonna teach you a little bit about how 102 00:04:47.965 --> 00:04:51.165 to research the opportunities that are there, how 103 00:04:51.165 --> 00:04:54.125 to reflect on what are the things that make you 104 00:04:54.125 --> 00:04:57.005 as a candidate stand out, um, how to rehearse 105 00:04:57.005 --> 00:04:58.405 for the big day, uh, 106 00:04:58.465 --> 00:05:00.605 and finally how to ready yourself for when 107 00:05:00.605 --> 00:05:01.725 that day eventually comes. 108 00:05:02.545 --> 00:05:05.165 Um, and before we head on any forward, I just wanna, um, 109 00:05:05.425 --> 00:05:07.325 really make sure that everyone feels 110 00:05:07.395 --> 00:05:10.085 that we're on the same page about how this process, 111 00:05:10.255 --> 00:05:11.485 we'll talk about this today. 112 00:05:12.025 --> 00:05:13.965 Um, is that one, uh, Megan 113 00:05:13.985 --> 00:05:16.125 and I are actually recording this webinar to, 114 00:05:16.125 --> 00:05:17.485 to benefit some students maybe 115 00:05:17.485 --> 00:05:19.285 that didn't make it today, if possible. 116 00:05:19.745 --> 00:05:22.885 Um, so if you have a question, um, feel free 117 00:05:22.885 --> 00:05:25.765 to raise your hand, uh, or to unmute yourself 118 00:05:25.945 --> 00:05:28.325 and to say it if you feel so inclined 119 00:05:28.325 --> 00:05:31.205 that like the moment is right then in order to ask it. 120 00:05:31.745 --> 00:05:33.565 Um, or if you need, feel free 121 00:05:33.565 --> 00:05:35.445 to drop a message in the chat, Megan Ray. 122 00:05:35.785 --> 00:05:38.685 Uh, we'll be monitoring it throughout the webinar today. 123 00:05:39.425 --> 00:05:42.285 And then at the end, um, of our presentation today, uh, 124 00:05:42.285 --> 00:05:43.925 we're actually gonna turn off the recording 125 00:05:43.925 --> 00:05:47.405 and we can have a bit of a moment of more candid interjections 126 00:05:47.495 --> 00:05:49.805 where of course we can answer any questions at that point. 127 00:05:49.865 --> 00:05:51.485 For anyone that maybe doesn't want 128 00:05:51.485 --> 00:05:52.765 to be recorded, that would be okay. 129 00:05:53.305 --> 00:05:55.725 So again, you gotta register, you gotta research, 130 00:05:56.225 --> 00:05:58.805 you gotta reflect, uh, on what makes you you, 131 00:05:59.065 --> 00:06:00.525 and then you have to rehearse 132 00:06:00.545 --> 00:06:02.085 and you need to be ready when you show up. 133 00:06:03.185 --> 00:06:07.245 Um, so step one, you really want to check, check the boxes 134 00:06:07.785 --> 00:06:10.565 for what other career fairs you wanna be at, um, regardless 135 00:06:10.625 --> 00:06:12.365 of major, regardless of discipline. 136 00:06:12.825 --> 00:06:14.525 Um, so the best way to do that is 137 00:06:14.545 --> 00:06:15.805 of course, through Handshake. 138 00:06:16.145 --> 00:06:18.405 Um, so when you all are there, 139 00:06:18.405 --> 00:06:20.765 obviously you all access Handshake to join us this evening. 140 00:06:21.185 --> 00:06:22.845 Um, you're gonna wanna click on this 141 00:06:22.955 --> 00:06:24.365 left tab that says events. 142 00:06:24.865 --> 00:06:27.285 And then you're gonna want to click on career fairs at your 143 00:06:27.285 --> 00:06:29.845 school, which actually means career fairs on your campus. 144 00:06:30.505 --> 00:06:32.205 Um, that's a little bit more interchangeable here. 145 00:06:32.745 --> 00:06:35.565 Uh, and you might find a host of different events 146 00:06:35.585 --> 00:06:36.605 and we'll provide a calendar 147 00:06:36.625 --> 00:06:37.925 for you a little bit later today. 148 00:06:39.265 --> 00:06:41.165 Um, and then as you're looking, some things 149 00:06:41.165 --> 00:06:43.525 that you might wanna keep in mind is you are probably gonna 150 00:06:43.545 --> 00:06:45.885 see career fair events that fall under the topic 151 00:06:45.905 --> 00:06:47.805 of in-person or in virtual. 152 00:06:48.305 --> 00:06:51.205 Uh, and of course there are going to be pros 153 00:06:51.225 --> 00:06:53.125 and cons to either avenue 154 00:06:53.345 --> 00:06:55.765 or medium, really just depending on what you're looking for. 155 00:06:56.465 --> 00:06:59.405 Um, sometimes when we are figuring out 156 00:06:59.985 --> 00:07:01.765 how do I understand my worth, 157 00:07:01.905 --> 00:07:03.605 how do I convey that to an employer? 158 00:07:04.195 --> 00:07:05.485 Some of us do better in person. 159 00:07:05.705 --> 00:07:07.725 We, we wanna be more than someone on paper. 160 00:07:07.825 --> 00:07:11.085 And so in person career fairs are maybe the place for you, 161 00:07:11.285 --> 00:07:13.965 a place to show up and be a more holistic being. 162 00:07:14.665 --> 00:07:17.005 Um, the pros, you have to show up. 163 00:07:17.465 --> 00:07:20.325 Uh, two, uh, sometimes our nerves can get the best of us 164 00:07:20.545 --> 00:07:23.325 and sometimes there's a waiting game, there's a line, 165 00:07:23.325 --> 00:07:25.365 there's a lot of people, it might get a little warm. 166 00:07:25.865 --> 00:07:27.965 Um, and so we kind of have to weigh the pros 167 00:07:27.965 --> 00:07:29.045 and cons on how to navigate that. 168 00:07:29.785 --> 00:07:32.445 On the other hand, there's virtual, uh, on virtual, 169 00:07:32.945 --> 00:07:35.125 you are gonna have to really prepare your technology. 170 00:07:35.595 --> 00:07:36.605 Does your camera work? 171 00:07:36.675 --> 00:07:38.965 Does your background look professional? 172 00:07:39.345 --> 00:07:42.525 Um, how do you interject if you're in a group setting, 173 00:07:42.595 --> 00:07:43.885 like you can kind of see here? 174 00:07:44.385 --> 00:07:45.845 Um, or does it feel more pressured 175 00:07:45.845 --> 00:07:46.965 when it's one-on-one employer? 176 00:07:47.025 --> 00:07:50.365 So thinking about for yourself, which one feels right 177 00:07:50.465 --> 00:07:52.005 and maybe you try out both and, 178 00:07:52.005 --> 00:07:53.245 and see which one works for you more. 179 00:07:53.245 --> 00:07:56.355 So in the future. Um, 180 00:07:56.535 --> 00:07:58.555 the next really big thing we need to do is research. 181 00:07:58.855 --> 00:08:01.875 Um, dysfunctional belief that sometimes we encounter 182 00:08:01.875 --> 00:08:03.675 with students all the time and sometimes with our staff 183 00:08:03.675 --> 00:08:06.635 as well, is that when you go to a career fair, 184 00:08:06.865 --> 00:08:09.275 that your objective is to talk to 185 00:08:09.295 --> 00:08:11.475 as many humans as possible. 186 00:08:11.855 --> 00:08:13.635 And we're here to tell you that's absolutely 187 00:08:13.655 --> 00:08:14.795 not always gonna be the case. 188 00:08:15.455 --> 00:08:18.595 Um, that really when we talk to recruiters at the end 189 00:08:18.595 --> 00:08:20.635 of a career fair and we're like, Hey, thanks for coming. 190 00:08:21.095 --> 00:08:22.475 Hey, what students stood out to 191 00:08:22.495 --> 00:08:25.035 and why we, we sometimes start to see trends. 192 00:08:25.735 --> 00:08:27.715 And one trend that we see a lot is 193 00:08:27.715 --> 00:08:31.395 that recruiters will tell us that sometimes students come up 194 00:08:31.395 --> 00:08:32.995 to them and they're like, "Hey, nice to meet you." 195 00:08:32.995 --> 00:08:33.995 "What does your company do?" 196 00:08:34.815 --> 00:08:37.755 And as you can imagine for a recruiter who's come 197 00:08:37.815 --> 00:08:40.115 to Bloomington in order to meet you all, 198 00:08:40.315 --> 00:08:43.075 'cause you're the, the experts on, on the next workforce 199 00:08:43.175 --> 00:08:46.515 of entry level, um, that doesn't always feel great, right? 200 00:08:46.855 --> 00:08:50.155 Uh, they they want people to come and meet them 201 00:08:50.155 --> 00:08:51.555 because they're so excited 202 00:08:51.555 --> 00:08:53.555 that their individual company is there. 203 00:08:53.975 --> 00:08:56.605 Or maybe because they have a very specific, um, 204 00:08:56.785 --> 00:08:58.965 job opportunity, internship opportunity. 205 00:08:59.505 --> 00:09:03.005 Um, so what I would really recommend is when you think about 206 00:09:03.005 --> 00:09:06.565 attending a career fair this fall, don't walk in and wing it 207 00:09:06.565 --> 00:09:08.805 because most people don't do that. 208 00:09:09.355 --> 00:09:12.085 Instead, I would look at the list on Handshake, 209 00:09:12.335 --> 00:09:15.005 click events, click career fairs, click the one 210 00:09:15.005 --> 00:09:16.005 that you think speaks to you 211 00:09:16.025 --> 00:09:17.645 and look at a few others, even two, 212 00:09:18.305 --> 00:09:20.445 and look at the different opportunities. 213 00:09:21.145 --> 00:09:22.645 If you think real estate 214 00:09:22.905 --> 00:09:25.325 and investment, um, industries are right for you, 215 00:09:25.955 --> 00:09:27.765 Sands Investment Group is actually gonna be at the College 216 00:09:27.765 --> 00:09:28.965 of Arts and Sciences Career Fair. 217 00:09:29.505 --> 00:09:31.005 And what we can see is 218 00:09:31.005 --> 00:09:34.525 that they actually have offices like across the south, 219 00:09:34.525 --> 00:09:37.485 southeastern United States, um, we see 220 00:09:37.485 --> 00:09:39.045 that they're gonna be hiring probably 221 00:09:39.145 --> 00:09:41.765 for Junior Commercial Real Estate Brokers. 222 00:09:41.985 --> 00:09:45.285 And so for those of you, um, in business, uh, majors 223 00:09:45.285 --> 00:09:46.765 and economics, you probably know more about 224 00:09:46.765 --> 00:09:49.205 what a broker is than, than Megan or I do. 225 00:09:49.665 --> 00:09:52.365 Um, so really looking at these nitty kind 226 00:09:52.365 --> 00:09:53.605 of details is important. 227 00:09:55.035 --> 00:09:56.885 Also important is to see, well, are they looking 228 00:09:56.905 --> 00:10:00.085 to fill internships, jobs, one or the other? 229 00:10:00.345 --> 00:10:02.485 Is it full-time opportunities and part-time? 230 00:10:03.265 --> 00:10:06.045 Um, and then sometimes also looking for work authorization. 231 00:10:06.305 --> 00:10:08.005 Um, if you are an international student 232 00:10:08.025 --> 00:10:11.125 and seeking, um, OPT approval, uh, 233 00:10:11.185 --> 00:10:14.125 or CPT approval if you're graduating, um, it's might, 234 00:10:14.185 --> 00:10:15.245 may be important to look at this, 235 00:10:15.745 --> 00:10:17.205 but I wanna add a disclaimer. 236 00:10:17.715 --> 00:10:21.365 This information is not the end all be all for 237 00:10:21.365 --> 00:10:23.645 what is truly representative of these employers. 238 00:10:24.105 --> 00:10:25.405 Um, I'm sure each 239 00:10:25.425 --> 00:10:28.005 and every one of us, at some point in the last year, 240 00:10:28.505 --> 00:10:31.205 we bought a new phone, a new software, 241 00:10:31.385 --> 00:10:33.725 and at some point someone said, 242 00:10:33.725 --> 00:10:35.205 here are the terms and conditions. 243 00:10:35.575 --> 00:10:37.125 Click that you acknowledge them below. 244 00:10:37.705 --> 00:10:39.765 And most of us aren't reading the fine print, right? 245 00:10:39.765 --> 00:10:41.485 We just click it and we say, I'm good to go. 246 00:10:41.835 --> 00:10:43.525 Sometimes employers do that too. 247 00:10:44.025 --> 00:10:46.805 So some employers say they're open 248 00:10:46.805 --> 00:10:48.485 to accepting OPT candidates. 249 00:10:48.795 --> 00:10:50.845 Sometimes employers don't say 250 00:10:50.845 --> 00:10:52.925 that they are accepting, but actually they are. 251 00:10:53.235 --> 00:10:54.885 They just don't know the process. Um, 252 00:10:55.265 --> 00:10:58.645 so look at this information to gain data 253 00:10:58.865 --> 00:11:01.525 to find out what's important to you that might stand out. 254 00:11:02.065 --> 00:11:04.445 Um, but know that when you get in person 255 00:11:04.635 --> 00:11:06.165 that like some things can change 256 00:11:06.185 --> 00:11:08.245 and we can adapt our strategy dependent. 257 00:11:08.305 --> 00:11:11.245 So I would recommend pick two to four companies 258 00:11:11.945 --> 00:11:15.765 really invest in understanding their, their client needs, 259 00:11:16.225 --> 00:11:18.045 um, the type of work they do, the type 260 00:11:18.045 --> 00:11:20.765 of companies they are, um, and really research them. 261 00:11:20.905 --> 00:11:22.005 So when you step up 262 00:11:22.005 --> 00:11:25.285 and it is your turn to speak to a recruiter on campus, 263 00:11:25.905 --> 00:11:28.485 you make it clear. Hi, I'm Trenten Rowlett 264 00:11:28.625 --> 00:11:30.205 and I'm so excited you were here. 265 00:11:30.445 --> 00:11:31.645 I saw you on Handshake. 266 00:11:32.025 --> 00:11:34.765 Um, and I know that you're hiring for a broker position and, 267 00:11:34.765 --> 00:11:36.445 and I'd love to talk to you a little bit more about it. 268 00:11:36.955 --> 00:11:38.685 It's really the difference of communicating 269 00:11:38.685 --> 00:11:41.005 that you're not looking for a job 270 00:11:41.105 --> 00:11:43.645 or an internship, you're looking for the job in internship, 271 00:11:43.745 --> 00:11:45.245 and that's what makes you stand out. 272 00:11:46.725 --> 00:11:48.825 So here are maybe two big ways to research. 273 00:11:49.125 --> 00:11:53.325 One, Google search, New York Times search, uh, 274 00:11:53.325 --> 00:11:55.485 looking up GuideStar for nonprofits. 275 00:11:55.985 --> 00:11:57.845 Uh, and what you're gonna find is 276 00:11:57.845 --> 00:12:01.645 that really quickly you can gain really fast data in terms 277 00:12:01.665 --> 00:12:03.245 of what is going on 278 00:12:03.245 --> 00:12:06.045 with these specific businesses in their specific industry. 279 00:12:06.585 --> 00:12:09.285 Um, Sands Investment Group, I can tell you like, 280 00:12:09.285 --> 00:12:12.085 they just won a web design award recently for, you know, 281 00:12:12.235 --> 00:12:13.285 redoing their website. 282 00:12:13.745 --> 00:12:16.885 Um, they actually just hired a brand new exec out of, uh, 283 00:12:16.945 --> 00:12:18.485 the real estate industry in Florida. 284 00:12:18.945 --> 00:12:20.885 His job is gonna be expanding their 285 00:12:20.885 --> 00:12:22.085 company throughout the southeast 286 00:12:22.085 --> 00:12:24.645 even further. Those are gonna be two like cool things 287 00:12:24.645 --> 00:12:27.085 that when you talk to a recruiter come up in conversation, 288 00:12:27.315 --> 00:12:29.125 that really makes you stand out 289 00:12:29.145 --> 00:12:30.925 and it's gonna make you the thing the person 290 00:12:30.925 --> 00:12:32.925 that's memorable, which is the goal. 291 00:12:34.935 --> 00:12:37.475 The next thing is, if any of you are on LinkedIn, um, 292 00:12:37.475 --> 00:12:38.955 this is a great place to look. 293 00:12:39.145 --> 00:12:42.315 When we look at Sands Investment group as just an example, 294 00:12:42.775 --> 00:12:44.475 we can see they're kind of a smaller office. 295 00:12:44.665 --> 00:12:47.075 Okay, well, if there are less than 20 employees, 296 00:12:47.615 --> 00:12:51.195 are there any IU alumni there that might give us some data? 297 00:12:51.535 --> 00:12:55.675 Or ooh, are there any that clearly are running the program, 298 00:12:56.305 --> 00:12:58.915 running the internship program that we could maybe, uh, 299 00:12:58.925 --> 00:13:01.595 reach out to for an informational entity to find out, 300 00:13:01.735 --> 00:13:03.555 you know, more about the company and their impact. 301 00:13:03.975 --> 00:13:06.195 Uh, one of the things I found is that they actually have a 302 00:13:07.055 --> 00:13:10.395 one intern right now named Grace, where as a student, 303 00:13:10.735 --> 00:13:13.315 how easy and approachable it could be to message Grace 304 00:13:13.415 --> 00:13:17.315 to say, Hey, I'm also a business oriented student, um, 305 00:13:17.615 --> 00:13:20.275 in the Midwest, uh, and I see you're doing the internship. 306 00:13:20.635 --> 00:13:21.755 I see they're coming to my career fair. 307 00:13:21.755 --> 00:13:23.235 Tell me more about the program, if you don't mind. 308 00:13:23.695 --> 00:13:26.635 Um, this kind of connection might be an easy way 309 00:13:26.755 --> 00:13:28.795 to network at a level playing field 310 00:13:28.795 --> 00:13:29.995 that's a little more approachable, 311 00:13:30.225 --> 00:13:33.755 that might really stand out when it comes time to apply. 312 00:13:34.375 --> 00:13:38.075 So research as much as possible, because this is the goal. 313 00:13:38.505 --> 00:13:40.635 When you go to the career fairs, you're gonna see 314 00:13:40.635 --> 00:13:42.835 that there are typically two different types of students, 315 00:13:42.935 --> 00:13:44.235 and we're all part of that. 316 00:13:44.235 --> 00:13:45.915 That's okay. Um, 317 00:13:46.095 --> 00:13:48.395 but sometimes when we haven't done our research, we walk 318 00:13:48.395 --> 00:13:50.715 around, we look a little bit more solemn, 319 00:13:50.715 --> 00:13:51.915 we spend more time on our phone 320 00:13:52.145 --> 00:13:54.955 because we're, we're not sure where we belong in the moment. 321 00:13:55.535 --> 00:13:58.835 And so one of the easiest ways to overcome that, like level 322 00:13:58.835 --> 00:14:02.315 of imposter syndrome, which is such human nature for all 323 00:14:02.315 --> 00:14:07.235 of us, if you wanna be, uh, just like her, uh, smiling, 324 00:14:07.875 --> 00:14:11.075 approachable, excited, is you do your research on just a few 325 00:14:11.435 --> 00:14:14.515 companies look for quality over quantity. 326 00:14:15.095 --> 00:14:18.235 And it can really empower you to like, take charge, um, 327 00:14:18.255 --> 00:14:20.075 of yourself, of the room, um, 328 00:14:20.095 --> 00:14:21.675 and the experience you're trying to get out of it. 329 00:14:23.305 --> 00:14:26.165 But hey, we've got some time before September, 330 00:14:26.165 --> 00:14:28.125 before the first official career fair starts. 331 00:14:28.625 --> 00:14:30.605 Um, so it's really important to take a second 332 00:14:30.705 --> 00:14:32.605 to reflect on like what are the things 333 00:14:32.955 --> 00:14:36.085 that are gonna make you feel absolutely as powerful 334 00:14:36.105 --> 00:14:37.605 as can be when you enter that room. 335 00:14:38.045 --> 00:14:40.405 'cause this picture you can see like this is a student 336 00:14:40.745 --> 00:14:42.685 who is absolutely in their element. 337 00:14:42.875 --> 00:14:44.525 They look calm, they look cool, 338 00:14:44.555 --> 00:14:46.565 they look collected, they look casual. 339 00:14:47.305 --> 00:14:50.685 Um, and, and so it's clearly a, a representation 340 00:14:50.685 --> 00:14:53.325 of them knowing who they are and what they want. 341 00:14:53.985 --> 00:14:55.645 So here's some ideas. Um, 342 00:14:55.745 --> 00:14:57.485 and this is kind of a long exhausting list, 343 00:14:57.785 --> 00:15:00.165 so don't feel intimidated quite yet, 344 00:15:00.625 --> 00:15:02.885 but really think about like, what are the experiences 345 00:15:02.995 --> 00:15:06.925 that made you, you think about yourself five years ago? 346 00:15:06.995 --> 00:15:08.685 Like, what made you even think about like 347 00:15:09.545 --> 00:15:10.645 why you picked your major? 348 00:15:10.835 --> 00:15:13.045 What, how do you even know that it's the right one for you? 349 00:15:13.185 --> 00:15:15.245 And some of those experiences might 350 00:15:15.245 --> 00:15:16.405 be the things that make you special. 351 00:15:17.345 --> 00:15:18.445 Um, think about your network. 352 00:15:18.705 --> 00:15:20.125 If you're really wanting to go into finance. 353 00:15:21.065 --> 00:15:24.645 Who did you know in finance? Was it a a movie? Was it media? 354 00:15:25.345 --> 00:15:27.245 Uh, was it an uncle? Was that a cousin? 355 00:15:27.385 --> 00:15:29.045 Is that an old sibling? A parent? 356 00:15:29.595 --> 00:15:31.765 What is the network of how you gain information? 357 00:15:32.945 --> 00:15:34.125 I'd really be thinking about your classes. 358 00:15:34.505 --> 00:15:38.285 Um, our classes are, are more than just, you know, boxes 359 00:15:38.355 --> 00:15:39.845 that we check to say we attend. 360 00:15:40.155 --> 00:15:42.405 They're experiences that really shape us 361 00:15:42.405 --> 00:15:44.765 and how we talk about ourselves and our story. 362 00:15:45.385 --> 00:15:47.005 Um, so I would really reflect on like 363 00:15:47.075 --> 00:15:49.205 what classes specifically make you you in 364 00:15:49.205 --> 00:15:50.245 this professional way. 365 00:15:51.155 --> 00:15:52.445 Some of us have internships, 366 00:15:52.755 --> 00:15:55.365 some people have volunteer work, some have job shadows. 367 00:15:55.415 --> 00:15:57.845 Those are weighed all different levels of investment. 368 00:15:58.505 --> 00:16:02.365 Um, and it's okay to have one, but not all three or two or, 369 00:16:02.705 --> 00:16:03.725 or sometimes you have none. 370 00:16:03.725 --> 00:16:04.765 And that, that's okay. 371 00:16:05.545 --> 00:16:06.845 Um, really looking at 372 00:16:06.845 --> 00:16:09.765 what student organizations you can be a part of, uh, 373 00:16:09.865 --> 00:16:11.325 as a way to tell your story. 374 00:16:11.375 --> 00:16:13.645 Maybe you have a part-time juror job. Excuse me. 375 00:16:14.065 --> 00:16:15.965 Um, but last but not least, you could have none 376 00:16:15.965 --> 00:16:18.525 of these things, but maybe you have your research on the 377 00:16:18.725 --> 00:16:20.125 companies that you're gonna talk to and 378 00:16:20.125 --> 00:16:21.365 that might be enough. 379 00:16:22.465 --> 00:16:24.485 So I write check-in here as a way to like, 380 00:16:24.755 --> 00:16:27.365 just take a breath of the room is to know 381 00:16:27.365 --> 00:16:30.405 that like you all gave a number a few minutes ago as to 382 00:16:30.405 --> 00:16:31.765 what your confidence level is. 383 00:16:32.385 --> 00:16:36.255 And to know that like you've spent 20 years 384 00:16:36.255 --> 00:16:38.255 of your life at this point to, for some of you 385 00:16:38.255 --> 00:16:40.815 to be a five outta 10, maybe you spent your entire life 386 00:16:40.815 --> 00:16:42.095 to be a four outta 10. 387 00:16:42.755 --> 00:16:45.375 So nothing we're gonna do today in one hour is gonna 388 00:16:45.455 --> 00:16:46.615 suddenly be like you're a 10 outta 389 00:16:46.675 --> 00:16:48.255 10, go out above the world. 390 00:16:48.595 --> 00:16:49.615 Uh, keep on, keep it on. 391 00:16:50.075 --> 00:16:53.335 So know that like if you're a five today, 392 00:16:53.365 --> 00:16:55.815 like we might become a five out of five or, 393 00:16:55.835 --> 00:16:58.415 but we might have some plans in place that you know what 394 00:16:58.415 --> 00:17:00.015 to do to become a six or a seven. 395 00:17:00.515 --> 00:17:02.015 So just know wherever you're at, 396 00:17:02.015 --> 00:17:03.415 that's a perfect place to be. 397 00:17:03.475 --> 00:17:04.855 That's a perfect place to start. 398 00:17:05.395 --> 00:17:07.495 But our hope is you might have an action item 399 00:17:07.515 --> 00:17:08.775 and plan by the end to say, 400 00:17:08.805 --> 00:17:10.655 this is what's gonna get me just one step further 401 00:17:11.035 --> 00:17:12.975 and then we work together to building block up. 402 00:17:13.165 --> 00:17:16.335 It's just different for everybody. So just come as your, so 403 00:17:17.505 --> 00:17:19.725 one of the big questions we get, well, if you're gonna go 404 00:17:19.725 --> 00:17:21.925 to a career fair, how do companies 405 00:17:22.065 --> 00:17:23.445 select their candidates at all? 406 00:17:23.745 --> 00:17:25.165 And what we know is that they're really 407 00:17:25.165 --> 00:17:26.325 picking on these three things. 408 00:17:26.515 --> 00:17:28.165 What is your value? What is your 409 00:17:28.165 --> 00:17:29.405 vibe and what is your voice? 410 00:17:29.945 --> 00:17:33.325 And that is to say, when we talk to employers about, Hey, 411 00:17:33.665 --> 00:17:35.925 you have 50 applicants, how do you pick one? 412 00:17:36.435 --> 00:17:38.485 What they tell us is they're not 413 00:17:38.485 --> 00:17:39.845 picking you based on your major. 414 00:17:40.555 --> 00:17:43.085 They're not picking the one of you with the best resume. 415 00:17:43.915 --> 00:17:45.805 They're not gonna necessarily pick the one of you 416 00:17:45.805 --> 00:17:47.885 that has the best GPA of the group, 417 00:17:48.515 --> 00:17:50.685 that they may not pick the person with the best network. 418 00:17:51.315 --> 00:17:53.325 What we know is that they're gonna pick the person 419 00:17:53.545 --> 00:17:55.445 who has their value in check, 420 00:17:55.495 --> 00:17:57.365 their vibes in check and their voice. 421 00:17:57.595 --> 00:18:00.405 Because what this means is value is like, do you know 422 00:18:00.635 --> 00:18:01.845 what you bring to the table? 423 00:18:02.235 --> 00:18:05.845 What makes you you, what are your vibes? 424 00:18:06.105 --> 00:18:08.405 Are you a person that can come in like them 425 00:18:08.545 --> 00:18:10.885 and just be calm, cool and casual and, 426 00:18:11.145 --> 00:18:12.885 and own yourself and own the room? 427 00:18:13.355 --> 00:18:15.085 What are the vibes of how you understand 428 00:18:15.105 --> 00:18:16.285 the company and their needs? 429 00:18:17.025 --> 00:18:18.845 And three, what is the voice? 430 00:18:19.145 --> 00:18:21.605 And sometimes that means is can we be conversational? 431 00:18:22.145 --> 00:18:23.725 Are you coming up to a recruiter 432 00:18:23.725 --> 00:18:24.965 and saying, what is it that you do? 433 00:18:25.545 --> 00:18:28.285 Are you coming up and saying, Hey, I know 434 00:18:28.475 --> 00:18:30.725 that you are really working on expansion. 435 00:18:30.745 --> 00:18:32.645 Hey, I'd love to hear an update since that article. 436 00:18:32.695 --> 00:18:36.285 How's that going? Um, to be a conversationalist, someone 437 00:18:36.285 --> 00:18:37.525 that they wanna spend time around. 438 00:18:37.705 --> 00:18:40.805 So if you can find these three things for yourself, um, 439 00:18:40.805 --> 00:18:42.925 it's an easy way to, to make yourself stand out. 440 00:18:44.565 --> 00:18:47.145 So here's how you do it. We get questions all the time about 441 00:18:47.145 --> 00:18:49.865 like, what do you even say, you know, 442 00:18:50.045 --> 00:18:52.225 as you're waiting in line with friends 443 00:18:52.525 --> 00:18:55.105 or with strangers to talk to like one or recruiter, 444 00:18:55.205 --> 00:18:56.905 or sometimes you have tables with two or three. 445 00:18:58.095 --> 00:19:00.185 What do you say in the short little moment 446 00:19:00.325 --> 00:19:02.345 to maximize the chances of an interview? 447 00:19:02.685 --> 00:19:04.985 And these are the things I would check your boxes for. 448 00:19:05.645 --> 00:19:06.985 One, say your name. 449 00:19:07.495 --> 00:19:10.185 That is your brand, it is your calling card 450 00:19:10.245 --> 00:19:13.505 and it is okay to own it, uh, in whatever way, shape, 451 00:19:13.505 --> 00:19:14.745 or form your name occurs. 452 00:19:15.245 --> 00:19:16.585 Um, so open it up so 453 00:19:16.585 --> 00:19:18.625 that way it's the first thing that they remember. 454 00:19:18.975 --> 00:19:20.825 There's the psychological experience. 455 00:19:20.855 --> 00:19:24.185 It's, uh, psychologists call it the primacy effect, 456 00:19:24.315 --> 00:19:26.225 where they remember the very first thing. 457 00:19:26.325 --> 00:19:29.145 So if you can open yourself up with your name 458 00:19:29.245 --> 00:19:31.265 to introduce yourself and a handshake 459 00:19:31.265 --> 00:19:32.705 and a gesture, um, 460 00:19:33.015 --> 00:19:34.785 that may be the thing they remember when they look at 461 00:19:34.785 --> 00:19:36.225 applications, look at resumes 462 00:19:36.225 --> 00:19:38.505 and be like, oh, I remember Megan, that was great. 463 00:19:39.525 --> 00:19:41.425 You might wanna add a little bit about your background. 464 00:19:41.725 --> 00:19:43.825 So what are your majors? What are your career interests? 465 00:19:43.825 --> 00:19:45.825 What got you there? And kind of keep it succinct, 466 00:19:47.455 --> 00:19:49.385 make a connection with the person you're speaking to. 467 00:19:49.715 --> 00:19:52.665 These are everyday people like you and I 468 00:19:52.845 --> 00:19:54.225 and sometimes in your career fairs, 469 00:19:54.225 --> 00:19:57.065 these are former students of IU who have been where you are, 470 00:19:57.165 --> 00:19:58.425 who are now in roles 471 00:19:58.515 --> 00:20:01.145 where they have a strength in communication 472 00:20:01.365 --> 00:20:02.385 in talking to people. 473 00:20:02.725 --> 00:20:04.665 And in talking about strengths and weaknesses. 474 00:20:05.285 --> 00:20:09.025 So find a connection, um, that you might have. 475 00:20:09.445 --> 00:20:11.025 And I'll give you some examples here in a minute. 476 00:20:12.295 --> 00:20:14.035 You always need to have a question. 477 00:20:14.335 --> 00:20:16.315 Um, you don't want these introductions 478 00:20:16.315 --> 00:20:18.275 to be one sided where you're just speaking. 479 00:20:19.015 --> 00:20:22.315 You want it to be a quick brief conversation back and forth. 480 00:20:22.775 --> 00:20:25.675 So I would be prepared to have a question that's really 481 00:20:26.195 --> 00:20:27.475 specific to that organization 482 00:20:28.055 --> 00:20:30.515 or make an ask, you know, it's a really good opportunity 483 00:20:30.515 --> 00:20:32.115 to show a tailored interest in the company. 484 00:20:32.535 --> 00:20:34.195 You know, what are the things that you know, 485 00:20:34.225 --> 00:20:36.355 make a candidate stand out to you on paper. 486 00:20:36.455 --> 00:20:37.715 You know, I wanted love to hear more. 487 00:20:38.135 --> 00:20:39.875 Hey, so you have a broker internship. 488 00:20:40.415 --> 00:20:42.955 Uh, what are the type of candidates that you're looking 489 00:20:42.975 --> 00:20:44.435 for here in Bloomington today? 490 00:20:45.015 --> 00:20:46.755 Um, and then last but not least, 491 00:20:47.125 --> 00:20:49.645 whenever you leave a recruiter, I kind of always recommend, 492 00:20:50.145 --> 00:20:51.925 uh, finding out well what's the 493 00:20:51.925 --> 00:20:53.005 best way to keep in touch with you? 494 00:20:53.505 --> 00:20:55.405 Hey Megan, it was such, thank you 495 00:20:55.405 --> 00:20:56.525 so much for your time and energy. 496 00:20:56.585 --> 00:20:58.405 Uh, before I go, um, you know, 497 00:20:58.505 --> 00:21:00.445 do you have a a card I might take with me? 498 00:21:00.505 --> 00:21:03.005 Or, um, do you prefer, are you comfortable 499 00:21:03.005 --> 00:21:05.605 with people if they, um, message or follow you on LinkedIn? 500 00:21:06.105 --> 00:21:08.565 Um, really answering that question is an easy way 501 00:21:08.865 --> 00:21:10.325 to make sure that you know clearly 502 00:21:10.395 --> 00:21:12.365 what are the expectations moving forward 503 00:21:12.665 --> 00:21:14.005 and it's a real way that's forward 504 00:21:14.005 --> 00:21:15.205 thinking that might stand out. 505 00:21:16.375 --> 00:21:19.835 So here's an example. You might walk up, um, 506 00:21:20.055 --> 00:21:22.315 to Sands Investment Group at the College of Arts 507 00:21:22.315 --> 00:21:23.355 and Sciences Career Fair 508 00:21:23.375 --> 00:21:25.915 and start with saying, "Hi, I'm Trenten Rowlett, 509 00:21:26.135 --> 00:21:28.755 I'm a junior at IU, I major in economics 510 00:21:28.755 --> 00:21:31.675 and I got a certificate in real estate this past summer." 511 00:21:32.035 --> 00:21:34.595 I interned, I volunteered, I job shadowed 512 00:21:34.595 --> 00:21:36.115 with a local real estate firm 513 00:21:36.415 --> 00:21:38.755 and I was able to gain some experience in market research 514 00:21:38.815 --> 00:21:41.235 and understanding how do you support client presentations?" 515 00:21:42.015 --> 00:21:44.835 That's what that's telling you is, Hey, I have value 516 00:21:44.895 --> 00:21:46.395 to bring to you and your company. 517 00:21:47.165 --> 00:21:48.195 Maybe you might say, Hey, 518 00:21:48.265 --> 00:21:50.515 I've been really becoming interested in brokerage 519 00:21:50.515 --> 00:21:52.395 because I enjoy relationship building, 520 00:21:52.735 --> 00:21:54.755 but I really wanna help clients identify investment. 521 00:21:55.735 --> 00:21:57.075 And I know you guys have been growing 522 00:21:57.105 --> 00:21:58.155 your team in the southeast. 523 00:21:58.235 --> 00:21:59.235 I was reading all about it. 524 00:21:59.375 --> 00:22:00.555 Um, in the Florida Times, 525 00:22:00.955 --> 00:22:02.395 I noticed you're actually now hiring 526 00:22:02.455 --> 00:22:03.555 for a broker internship. 527 00:22:04.225 --> 00:22:05.275 This is about vibes. 528 00:22:05.275 --> 00:22:06.435 You're telling me like, oh, 529 00:22:06.575 --> 00:22:07.955 you actually know a little bit about us. 530 00:22:08.375 --> 00:22:10.075 I'm immediately gonna be impressed. 531 00:22:10.735 --> 00:22:12.755 And then say, Hey, could you just share some qualities 532 00:22:12.755 --> 00:22:14.515 that you might be looking for in candidates 533 00:22:14.735 --> 00:22:16.195 who maybe wanna move into, you know, 534 00:22:16.195 --> 00:22:17.635 the brokerage career field? 535 00:22:18.225 --> 00:22:19.875 This is about showing your voice. 536 00:22:19.875 --> 00:22:22.315 You've now made this an entire conversation 537 00:22:22.575 --> 00:22:23.795 or something, I have something to offer. 538 00:22:23.855 --> 00:22:25.235 And we can kind of go back and forth. 539 00:22:25.465 --> 00:22:27.235 This is a really key winning strategy. 540 00:22:29.105 --> 00:22:31.845 So hey, if you're reflecting on, these are the three things 541 00:22:31.845 --> 00:22:33.085 that are an absolute must 542 00:22:33.185 --> 00:22:35.965 if you want to be the competitive professional at your 543 00:22:35.965 --> 00:22:39.845 career fair. One your degree, two 544 00:22:40.405 --> 00:22:42.765 strategic experiences, and three in your story. 545 00:22:43.145 --> 00:22:45.405 But you have to know these three, these things have 546 00:22:45.405 --> 00:22:46.565 to coincide together. 547 00:22:47.185 --> 00:22:48.925 Um, if you have experiences 548 00:22:49.425 --> 00:22:52.285 but you can't convey why your classes matter, 549 00:22:52.545 --> 00:22:53.805 why your major matters or, 550 00:22:53.945 --> 00:22:55.685 or maybe you have a major that you've settled on 551 00:22:55.685 --> 00:23:00.525 that you wasn't your first choice, what that might indicate 552 00:23:00.545 --> 00:23:02.525 as a yellow flag to recruiters is 553 00:23:02.525 --> 00:23:03.925 that you aren't fully well-rounded. 554 00:23:04.305 --> 00:23:06.205 You don't know the things that make you 555 00:23:06.835 --> 00:23:08.005 your strengths, right? 556 00:23:08.505 --> 00:23:10.365 So you have to understand your degree 557 00:23:10.465 --> 00:23:12.685 and you have to own it as a part of your story 558 00:23:12.985 --> 00:23:15.965 and present it and reframe it always as a strength 559 00:23:16.085 --> 00:23:17.325 because it's what makes you special 560 00:23:17.325 --> 00:23:20.845 and different. Two, your strategic experiences. 561 00:23:21.745 --> 00:23:23.645 One of the worst things you don't want 562 00:23:23.645 --> 00:23:25.285 to do is wake up at graduation 563 00:23:25.385 --> 00:23:27.365 and say, wow, I'm looking for a job 564 00:23:27.425 --> 00:23:29.005 and I have an economics major, 565 00:23:29.225 --> 00:23:30.845 but I don't have any experiences to back it up. 566 00:23:31.275 --> 00:23:32.925 What that might indicate is 567 00:23:32.925 --> 00:23:35.445 that you haven't really tried anything 568 00:23:35.625 --> 00:23:38.165 to really gain any skills or gain any insights. 569 00:23:38.585 --> 00:23:40.325 It says that you may not have as much value. 570 00:23:40.785 --> 00:23:42.965 So we need to have our degree, we have 571 00:23:42.965 --> 00:23:44.805 to have tried a few things along the way 572 00:23:45.075 --> 00:23:47.765 because those thing, the things together we get 573 00:23:47.765 --> 00:23:49.085 to own as our story, 574 00:23:49.665 --> 00:23:52.045 and when you ha, if you own your story, the person 575 00:23:52.045 --> 00:23:54.045 with the best story, that's the one that gets hired. 576 00:23:54.425 --> 00:23:55.845 So if you can walk in a room 577 00:23:55.845 --> 00:23:57.565 and know where you've been, where you're going 578 00:23:57.565 --> 00:23:59.685 and how you're gonna do it, that's the person 579 00:23:59.685 --> 00:24:01.565 that people wanna talk to and that's gonna stand out. 580 00:24:03.325 --> 00:24:06.585 So we're gonna give you some easy, fast, cheap, 581 00:24:06.695 --> 00:24:10.585 easy ways maybe to upskill between now and September 582 00:24:10.805 --> 00:24:12.545 and some of these things you all have tried 583 00:24:12.565 --> 00:24:14.025 and some of these might be brand new. 584 00:24:14.765 --> 00:24:17.585 Um, the first thing I would really recommend if you're like, 585 00:24:17.645 --> 00:24:21.665 Hey, my confidence is at a three, uh, one way you can get it 586 00:24:21.665 --> 00:24:25.585 to a four is look at credentials or micro-internships. 587 00:24:25.605 --> 00:24:28.025 And this is in the form, uh, of LinkedIn Learning 588 00:24:28.165 --> 00:24:29.705 and Forage specifically. 589 00:24:31.115 --> 00:24:35.335 So LinkedIn Learning is a professional development item 590 00:24:36.005 --> 00:24:37.295 that is a part of LinkedIn 591 00:24:37.395 --> 00:24:40.175 and actually it is a paid service at cost, 592 00:24:40.595 --> 00:24:43.135 but you all have it for free for the entirety 593 00:24:43.165 --> 00:24:45.335 that you are an IU student with an IU email. 594 00:24:45.915 --> 00:24:49.895 So all you do is go to one.iu.edu, 595 00:24:50.555 --> 00:24:52.295 search LinkedIn when you're there 596 00:24:52.595 --> 00:24:53.775 and it will pull up LinkedIn Learning. 597 00:24:53.805 --> 00:24:56.095 It's the only result. And when you click it, it'll help you 598 00:24:56.195 --> 00:24:59.935 to connect LinkedIn Learning to your LinkedIn account. 599 00:25:00.395 --> 00:25:03.535 And what you can do is actually put in any type of a search, 600 00:25:03.535 --> 00:25:06.455 depending on your field of interest, look up business, 601 00:25:06.755 --> 00:25:08.975 and you can actually get certificate courses 602 00:25:09.565 --> 00:25:11.255 that take this one is Business 603 00:25:11.775 --> 00:25:13.695 Analysis Foundations takes an hour 25, 604 00:25:13.715 --> 00:25:15.495 and at the end of it you get a certificate 605 00:25:15.555 --> 00:25:17.215 and it says, congrats, would you like 606 00:25:17.215 --> 00:25:18.455 to add this to your LinkedIn? 607 00:25:18.475 --> 00:25:19.815 You click yes and it's done. 608 00:25:20.405 --> 00:25:23.695 This is a certificate you can also put on your resume. 609 00:25:24.515 --> 00:25:26.655 So really thinking about like what are the things, 610 00:25:26.685 --> 00:25:28.695 when you look at a job description, you're like, wow, 611 00:25:29.175 --> 00:25:31.095 I actually have a lot of this experience. 612 00:25:31.165 --> 00:25:33.455 Sometimes we see things we're like, but I don't have that. 613 00:25:34.235 --> 00:25:35.775 If you're like, I'm applying to a job 614 00:25:35.775 --> 00:25:37.135 that needs data analytics, 615 00:25:37.555 --> 00:25:39.975 we might look up a certificate option through LinkedIn 616 00:25:39.975 --> 00:25:42.375 that has to do with data analytics and how to understand it 617 00:25:42.795 --> 00:25:45.695 and get a certificate that then adds 618 00:25:45.695 --> 00:25:48.775 that part into your story so that you know 619 00:25:48.845 --> 00:25:51.295 that you're prepared, uh, for whatever comes your way. 620 00:25:51.475 --> 00:25:55.015 So LinkedIn learning easy way to gain a easy credential. 621 00:25:57.535 --> 00:25:59.315 The one of the favorite things 622 00:25:59.375 --> 00:26:01.995 of avenues I would suggest is something called Forage. 623 00:26:02.375 --> 00:26:05.875 So Forage is a company that, um, the IU campus you works 624 00:26:05.875 --> 00:26:10.035 with, where they work with large companies across the world 625 00:26:10.375 --> 00:26:12.155 to develop what's called a micro-internship. 626 00:26:12.255 --> 00:26:15.315 So it's internships that can range anywhere from 30 minutes 627 00:26:15.775 --> 00:26:17.315 to like 10 to 12 hours. 628 00:26:18.095 --> 00:26:21.395 And so, uh, I should say as we're kind 629 00:26:21.395 --> 00:26:24.435 of navigating this process, Megan Ray has been so kind 630 00:26:24.615 --> 00:26:26.555 to be incorporating links to all 631 00:26:26.555 --> 00:26:28.155 of these resources in the chat. 632 00:26:28.255 --> 00:26:30.515 So feel free to, um, take a peek, uh, 633 00:26:30.575 --> 00:26:32.435 or you could of course if you don't get anything, 634 00:26:32.495 --> 00:26:34.475 we can always share it with you after it's not a problem. 635 00:26:35.255 --> 00:26:38.435 Um, but Forage, when you, if you access the link 636 00:26:38.435 --> 00:26:40.675 that's shared in the chat, it'll take you 637 00:26:40.675 --> 00:26:41.875 to the Walter Center website. 638 00:26:42.415 --> 00:26:44.805 You scroll down to the bottom of the page 639 00:26:44.805 --> 00:26:47.805 and you're gonna see a tab that says micro- internships, 640 00:26:48.425 --> 00:26:49.845 and under it you'll find Forage. 641 00:26:49.845 --> 00:26:52.485 So if you click that, it will make this a free service 642 00:26:52.705 --> 00:26:55.845 for all IU students that, um, want to access it this way. 643 00:26:56.505 --> 00:26:57.845 And what you can find is 644 00:26:57.845 --> 00:27:00.365 that there are these micro-internships, 645 00:27:00.615 --> 00:27:03.525 which are essentially small internships 646 00:27:03.525 --> 00:27:04.725 that are self-guided. 647 00:27:04.725 --> 00:27:07.325 You do them at your own time from midnight 648 00:27:07.345 --> 00:27:09.845 to 4 a.m. in your dorm room or wherever you're at. 649 00:27:10.345 --> 00:27:12.805 Um, take a break and pick back up whenever you're ready. 650 00:27:13.305 --> 00:27:14.325 And these companies, 651 00:27:14.435 --> 00:27:17.885 because they're seeing, um, tech becoming so integral to 652 00:27:17.885 --> 00:27:21.085 how they hire, they're creating pipelines through Forage. 653 00:27:21.575 --> 00:27:25.005 Wells Fargo is one of the biggest ones where they say, Hey, 654 00:27:25.105 --> 00:27:26.805 if you wanna get into Wells Fargo, one 655 00:27:26.805 --> 00:27:30.325 of the things you might do is go into Forage, do a 30 656 00:27:30.385 --> 00:27:33.445 to 60 minute introductory, uh, banking, 657 00:27:33.965 --> 00:27:35.205 personal banker, micro-internship. 658 00:27:35.855 --> 00:27:38.885 It'll give you just a few tasks where they teach you what 659 00:27:38.885 --> 00:27:41.485 to do and they, they hold your hand throughout the process. 660 00:27:42.185 --> 00:27:45.005 And then when you complete that process, it says, congrats, 661 00:27:45.155 --> 00:27:46.565 here is what you can put on your resume. 662 00:27:46.655 --> 00:27:48.005 Click copy and paste. 663 00:27:48.345 --> 00:27:52.485 So it's a really quick, fast, cheap it's free, easy way 664 00:27:52.865 --> 00:27:56.125 to put internship type experiences on your resume 665 00:27:56.545 --> 00:27:57.765 to really sell your story. 666 00:27:58.385 --> 00:28:00.525 So some, these are all brand new that I saw. 667 00:28:00.745 --> 00:28:02.965 So you might start with something very introductory. 668 00:28:02.965 --> 00:28:05.885 It takes 30 minutes. Um, if you like that vibe 669 00:28:05.945 --> 00:28:06.965 and it works well for you, 670 00:28:07.015 --> 00:28:08.845 maybe you should try something more intermediate. 671 00:28:08.915 --> 00:28:10.485 It's three to four hours, two to three, 672 00:28:10.945 --> 00:28:12.325 you can gain some advertising 673 00:28:12.325 --> 00:28:13.925 experience, data visualization. 674 00:28:13.945 --> 00:28:17.485 So I would play with this. It's a real, um, game changer for 675 00:28:17.585 --> 00:28:19.765 how you tell your story, especially if you don't have any 676 00:28:19.765 --> 00:28:21.445 internships on your resume yet. 677 00:28:22.545 --> 00:28:24.645 And this is what it looks like with the QR code to 678 00:28:24.645 --> 00:28:25.645 that page I was mentioning. 679 00:28:25.705 --> 00:28:28.605 So if you, uh, use this QR code on the website 680 00:28:28.605 --> 00:28:31.365 for the Walter Center, you scroll down all the way to, 681 00:28:31.365 --> 00:28:33.965 you see the, the word micro-internships, can't miss it. 682 00:28:34.025 --> 00:28:36.005 Uh, and click that and it'll take you to Forage. 683 00:28:36.505 --> 00:28:38.805 Um, but if you're wanting advertising experience, 684 00:28:38.805 --> 00:28:40.565 maybe you're in the Media School, um, 685 00:28:40.625 --> 00:28:42.365 the New York Times has one 686 00:28:42.465 --> 00:28:46.045 and you could see like task one, well, they'll teach you how 687 00:28:46.045 --> 00:28:48.725 to write compelling communications with clients, um, 688 00:28:48.785 --> 00:28:49.845 and how to maximize it. 689 00:28:50.025 --> 00:28:53.605 So then what you do is you complete research based on 690 00:28:53.605 --> 00:28:55.845 how they've taught you, and then you're gonna write cold, 691 00:28:56.025 --> 00:28:59.565 an ad cold email for advertising sales, um, at, 692 00:28:59.565 --> 00:29:01.405 for this company called City Travel Co. 693 00:29:01.755 --> 00:29:03.165 Then when you're done, you submit it 694 00:29:03.185 --> 00:29:04.605 and they're able to see it. 695 00:29:04.865 --> 00:29:07.205 And then the cool thing about these is we've actually had 696 00:29:07.325 --> 00:29:10.285 students who have done micro-internships through Forage 697 00:29:10.535 --> 00:29:13.565 where companies will later message them to be like, Hey, 698 00:29:13.565 --> 00:29:16.645 we saw you did our advertising sales New York Times thing. 699 00:29:16.745 --> 00:29:19.365 Hey, we are actually, you know, taking 700 00:29:20.405 --> 00:29:22.245 advertising internships or we've got an entry-level 701 00:29:22.525 --> 00:29:23.685 position, would you be interested in? 702 00:29:23.865 --> 00:29:25.125 Um, it's a new pipeline for 703 00:29:25.125 --> 00:29:26.845 how people are finding entry-level jobs. 704 00:29:27.025 --> 00:29:30.625 It could be really cool. Now, uh, 705 00:29:30.885 --> 00:29:32.265 as we're figuring out like 706 00:29:32.365 --> 00:29:35.265 how do we navigate micro-internships and credentials 707 00:29:35.265 --> 00:29:37.105 and maybe you're going to career fair, it's 708 00:29:37.105 --> 00:29:38.185 of course I think it's helpful if 709 00:29:38.185 --> 00:29:39.305 we talk about barriers, right? 710 00:29:39.565 --> 00:29:42.165 And funding is always a premier barrier 711 00:29:42.165 --> 00:29:43.565 that we sometimes run across. 712 00:29:44.225 --> 00:29:46.405 Um, so know that like we 713 00:29:46.585 --> 00:29:49.965 as a career service community are absolutely dedicated 714 00:29:49.965 --> 00:29:52.445 to wanting to help you remove as many barriers as possible, 715 00:29:52.665 --> 00:29:53.765 but everyone's is a little bit different. 716 00:29:53.765 --> 00:29:55.525 So this is just one example. Um, 717 00:29:55.665 --> 00:29:58.125 so one is if you're finding a financial barrier 718 00:29:58.305 --> 00:30:01.125 and you have an internship that you land at a career fair, 719 00:30:01.585 --> 00:30:04.045 um, know that these are some examples to pay for. 720 00:30:04.505 --> 00:30:06.965 So the Hutton Honors College, um, 721 00:30:07.485 --> 00:30:10.765 actually offers internship grants for all students 722 00:30:11.305 --> 00:30:12.685 across IU Bloomington. 723 00:30:12.825 --> 00:30:15.365 So here is a QR code for it. 724 00:30:15.745 --> 00:30:18.405 Uh, and it'll be in the chat as well where you can get up 725 00:30:18.405 --> 00:30:20.125 to $1,500 for fall 726 00:30:20.125 --> 00:30:23.365 or spring is a part of your application if selected, um, 727 00:30:23.425 --> 00:30:26.965 or $3000 for the summer to help afford, uh, needs specific 728 00:30:27.065 --> 00:30:28.285 to your internships. 729 00:30:28.285 --> 00:30:30.125 Something to consider. Um, 730 00:30:30.185 --> 00:30:31.965 and for those of you within the College of Arts 731 00:30:31.985 --> 00:30:33.845 and Sciences, we actually give out our own funding. 732 00:30:34.305 --> 00:30:37.445 Um, it can be anywhere from like $200 to, we've had students 733 00:30:37.465 --> 00:30:39.365 who get funding over $3,000. 734 00:30:39.865 --> 00:30:42.245 Um, so the Walter Center will add a link here. 735 00:30:42.625 --> 00:30:44.445 Um, they've got their own set of deadlines 736 00:30:44.445 --> 00:30:46.645 and so you have your own little, um, bank in order 737 00:30:46.705 --> 00:30:48.205 to remove this barrier if need be. 738 00:30:48.545 --> 00:30:51.985 So, okay, so let's go back. 739 00:30:51.985 --> 00:30:53.945 We've talked about credentials and micro- internships. 740 00:30:53.945 --> 00:30:56.825 So if you feel like you are at a five out 741 00:30:56.825 --> 00:30:58.985 of 10 in confidence level, one 742 00:30:58.985 --> 00:31:01.825 of the next things we would try is think about your student 743 00:31:01.825 --> 00:31:03.585 organizations goal. 744 00:31:03.765 --> 00:31:04.865 You should be keeping an eye out 745 00:31:04.865 --> 00:31:06.945 for active participation opportunities. 746 00:31:07.645 --> 00:31:10.265 One of the things that sometimes recruiters tell us is when 747 00:31:10.265 --> 00:31:11.865 you come and provide a resume 748 00:31:12.005 --> 00:31:16.065 and it says, Hey, I was in the business analytics club, 749 00:31:16.305 --> 00:31:17.625 I was just a member though, um, 750 00:31:17.625 --> 00:31:20.545 and I was only in it for a month, it doesn't really, um, 751 00:31:20.755 --> 00:31:22.705 stand out as much as it could. 752 00:31:22.735 --> 00:31:24.985 Whereas if you were like, Hey, I was a member 753 00:31:24.985 --> 00:31:26.105 of the marketing committee and 754 00:31:26.105 --> 00:31:27.145 here are the things that I did. 755 00:31:27.485 --> 00:31:29.025 So if you join a student organization, 756 00:31:29.095 --> 00:31:31.985 it's great experience on a resume, um, 757 00:31:32.365 --> 00:31:34.345 for whatever you're looking for by industry, 758 00:31:34.445 --> 00:31:37.225 but really keep an eye out for like, how can I like offer 759 00:31:37.285 --> 00:31:39.625 to be an active part of the, the success. 760 00:31:40.165 --> 00:31:43.185 Um, and even just being a volunteer member can really speed 761 00:31:43.185 --> 00:31:44.585 avenues to employers. 762 00:31:45.765 --> 00:31:48.225 And then last on this list is really like thinking about 763 00:31:48.325 --> 00:31:50.905 how do you use your major courses, your minor courses 764 00:31:51.205 --> 00:31:53.065 and your electives wisely. 765 00:31:53.605 --> 00:31:57.745 Um, and that is to say that if you have elements of 766 00:31:58.265 --> 00:32:00.465 a job description that you see an internship 767 00:32:00.725 --> 00:32:02.705 and you're like, wow, I looked at the responsibilities 768 00:32:02.725 --> 00:32:04.145 and there are 10 bullet points 769 00:32:04.605 --> 00:32:06.665 and like seven of 'em I've got down. 770 00:32:06.805 --> 00:32:08.785 Not a problem. You know, it's all marketing related, 771 00:32:09.085 --> 00:32:11.985 et cetera, but there's this one aspect I've never done. 772 00:32:12.605 --> 00:32:16.505 You can actually, um, join, uh, an elective course, 773 00:32:16.745 --> 00:32:18.545 a major minor course and look for courses 774 00:32:18.655 --> 00:32:20.225 that might help fit that thing. 775 00:32:20.565 --> 00:32:22.305 And those are the things that you put in 776 00:32:22.455 --> 00:32:24.545 because what will you wanna remember is 777 00:32:24.545 --> 00:32:27.545 that in today's workforce, the modern resume 778 00:32:28.085 --> 00:32:29.145 is not about jobs. 779 00:32:30.005 --> 00:32:32.145 And I wanna like reiterate that so much. 780 00:32:32.765 --> 00:32:36.465 Modern resumes are not about jobs, they are about anything 781 00:32:36.575 --> 00:32:38.065 that is professional development. 782 00:32:38.165 --> 00:32:40.645 And I'll give you an example. Um, I work a lot 783 00:32:40.645 --> 00:32:42.365 with like graphic design students. 784 00:32:42.865 --> 00:32:46.365 Um, and when, uh, they're the batch graphic design students 785 00:32:46.385 --> 00:32:48.605 who graduate from iu, they usually get like a bachelor's 786 00:32:48.605 --> 00:32:50.285 of studio art or, or fine arts. 787 00:32:50.825 --> 00:32:53.205 Um, and their resumes sometimes are not one 788 00:32:53.205 --> 00:32:54.765 job, not one internship. 789 00:32:54.765 --> 00:32:56.525 Sometimes it's no volunteer work. 790 00:32:57.035 --> 00:33:00.405 It's all coursework, it's all graphic design work, 791 00:33:00.805 --> 00:33:01.925 graphic design experience 792 00:33:02.135 --> 00:33:06.005 where they talk about their classes like jobs, um, 793 00:33:06.005 --> 00:33:08.525 because that is professional development experience. 794 00:33:09.085 --> 00:33:10.325 LinkedIn's the same when you go 795 00:33:10.325 --> 00:33:12.605 to LinkedIn on your profiles, nowhere does it say, 796 00:33:12.605 --> 00:33:15.365 here's a list of my jobs, it says, 797 00:33:15.365 --> 00:33:16.645 here's a list of my experiences. 798 00:33:17.145 --> 00:33:20.885 So really understanding how you frame what you've done, 799 00:33:20.935 --> 00:33:23.885 where you've been and why it matters, is enough 800 00:33:23.885 --> 00:33:25.125 to convince an employer 801 00:33:25.125 --> 00:33:26.765 that you have value on their team as well. 802 00:33:27.025 --> 00:33:30.005 And I'll give you an example. So for those of you 803 00:33:30.005 --> 00:33:31.205 who say you're in merchandising 804 00:33:31.305 --> 00:33:33.765 or maybe you're in the Kelley School of Business, 805 00:33:33.825 --> 00:33:35.005 or maybe you're in economics 806 00:33:35.005 --> 00:33:36.765 and you're like, I need a thing on 807 00:33:36.765 --> 00:33:37.845 my resume, now I want to do better. 808 00:33:38.425 --> 00:33:41.965 One example is actually a club, um, I found on beINvolved. 809 00:33:42.185 --> 00:33:45.805 So you can just look beINvolved on one.iu.edu. 810 00:33:46.185 --> 00:33:48.445 And it looks like the Designers in Business club has a call 811 00:33:48.445 --> 00:33:49.645 out meeting in early September. 812 00:33:50.425 --> 00:33:52.765 And what we find is they're trying as a club, 813 00:33:53.225 --> 00:33:55.885 my understanding is they actually create custom apparel 814 00:33:56.625 --> 00:33:58.285 for student organizations across campus. 815 00:33:58.745 --> 00:34:01.885 So it's a mixture of like business and marketing 816 00:34:02.145 --> 00:34:03.565 and project management. 817 00:34:04.345 --> 00:34:06.525 So let's say you join, uh, an organization like this 818 00:34:06.525 --> 00:34:08.285 and you're like, Hey, I really wanna be 819 00:34:08.285 --> 00:34:09.405 a part of the marketing team. 820 00:34:10.065 --> 00:34:13.645 On your resume, you can have a tailored section that says, 821 00:34:13.645 --> 00:34:15.365 here are my business organizations. 822 00:34:16.155 --> 00:34:17.885 It's, I'm with the Designers in Business, 823 00:34:18.035 --> 00:34:19.805 it's at IU, it's in Bloomington. 824 00:34:20.545 --> 00:34:21.965 I'm, I was the marketing lead 825 00:34:21.965 --> 00:34:24.365 or maybe I was, um, the marketing committee member. 826 00:34:24.865 --> 00:34:28.845 Um, if you talk about a class, maybe you took K201, um, 827 00:34:28.985 --> 00:34:32.445 you would say like, um, the name of the class, 828 00:34:32.705 --> 00:34:35.005 not the course code, but you would say the name 829 00:34:35.005 --> 00:34:37.085 of a class Indiana University. 830 00:34:37.505 --> 00:34:39.285 Um, I would be a business student 831 00:34:39.465 --> 00:34:41.565 or you'd be a marketing student or just student. 832 00:34:42.065 --> 00:34:43.685 And you put the dates of the semester 833 00:34:43.685 --> 00:34:45.845 or the times that you were in that piece of that experience 834 00:34:46.275 --> 00:34:50.445 with, um, two at minimum bullet points, if not maybe three, 835 00:34:50.795 --> 00:34:53.725 that talks about the hard skills that you did 836 00:34:53.995 --> 00:34:55.085 with the hard takeaways. 837 00:34:55.225 --> 00:34:58.365 So maybe you collaborated that resulted in these campaigns 838 00:34:58.365 --> 00:35:00.765 to increase a customer base, which is student orgs. 839 00:35:01.175 --> 00:35:04.405 Maybe you worked one-on-one with individual leaders in order 840 00:35:04.405 --> 00:35:06.725 to help, um, create designs. 841 00:35:07.345 --> 00:35:10.725 Um, so if you can talk about your experiences like jobs, 842 00:35:11.195 --> 00:35:15.365 your resume's already, uh, on the uplift and on the upskill. 843 00:35:15.585 --> 00:35:18.285 So, um, really be looking for ways to own that. 844 00:35:19.965 --> 00:35:22.505 The next thing you gotta do if once you've really reflected 845 00:35:22.565 --> 00:35:23.625 and you've done your research, 846 00:35:23.625 --> 00:35:25.065 you're like, I know who I wanna talk to. 847 00:35:25.465 --> 00:35:28.025 I know that I have value, I've updated my resume, 848 00:35:28.765 --> 00:35:30.905 but what do I do between now and then? 849 00:35:31.245 --> 00:35:34.625 You've gotta rehearse really successful students 850 00:35:34.625 --> 00:35:36.465 that really, uh, maximize 851 00:35:36.465 --> 00:35:38.925 and find opportunities at career fairs aren't walking 852 00:35:38.985 --> 00:35:40.085 in and just winging it. 853 00:35:40.305 --> 00:35:42.365 You don't just simply stumble upon an internship. 854 00:35:43.065 --> 00:35:45.485 So one, think about networking, think, 855 00:35:45.505 --> 00:35:47.845 and what I mean by that is it needs to be intentional. 856 00:35:48.255 --> 00:35:50.125 Don't reach out to people at companies 857 00:35:50.305 --> 00:35:51.805 for the sake of just talking to them. 858 00:35:52.385 --> 00:35:56.605 Really only talk to people that you aspire to be. 859 00:35:57.145 --> 00:35:59.085 So if you wanna work at Salesforce 860 00:35:59.185 --> 00:36:02.485 and you are into tech, find the type of, you know, 861 00:36:02.675 --> 00:36:06.005 programming or maybe it's UX design that you are like, wow, 862 00:36:06.045 --> 00:36:07.365 I really wanna be someone like them. 863 00:36:07.985 --> 00:36:09.205 You can network with those people. 864 00:36:09.625 --> 00:36:11.925 Um, and I can help you in coaching as to how to do that 865 00:36:11.985 --> 00:36:15.645 to say, Hey, I see you have a really impactful journey 866 00:36:15.705 --> 00:36:17.325 and you also went to IU Bloomington. 867 00:36:17.425 --> 00:36:18.685 I'd love to hear more about your story. 868 00:36:18.685 --> 00:36:21.045 Would you be willing to share over a 10 minute zoom call? 869 00:36:21.705 --> 00:36:23.525 Um, but if you aren't really sure where to begin, 870 00:36:23.845 --> 00:36:25.285 I would really recommend career coaching. 871 00:36:25.655 --> 00:36:27.605 Every single one of you has really stellar 872 00:36:27.665 --> 00:36:28.885 career service office. 873 00:36:29.385 --> 00:36:31.765 Um, depending on where you're at that is so specific 874 00:36:31.785 --> 00:36:34.125 to the industries and the majors that you own. 875 00:36:34.745 --> 00:36:37.645 Um, and if not, um, I, my name's Trenten Rowlett, 876 00:36:37.725 --> 00:36:39.205 I work in College of Arts and Sciences. 877 00:36:39.505 --> 00:36:41.365 Um, I can work with you as well, 878 00:36:41.365 --> 00:36:43.485 especially if you're wanting to go into like business, 879 00:36:43.625 --> 00:36:46.405 retail, technology, merchandising, um, any of those. 880 00:36:46.865 --> 00:36:48.525 And sometimes in career coach coaching offices, 881 00:36:48.715 --> 00:36:49.965 it's students who like, like this, 882 00:36:49.965 --> 00:36:51.565 who like show up at my office 883 00:36:51.705 --> 00:36:53.405 or sometimes virtually through Zoom 884 00:36:53.785 --> 00:36:55.485 and they're like, Hey, can we just talk about 885 00:36:55.835 --> 00:36:57.565 what is my major and what are the careers 886 00:36:57.795 --> 00:36:58.925 even available for it? 887 00:36:59.025 --> 00:37:01.565 We started, you know, this low level together. 888 00:37:01.955 --> 00:37:03.725 Sometimes we start with no resume. 889 00:37:04.105 --> 00:37:06.445 We just talk about how do you start to develop one 890 00:37:06.445 --> 00:37:07.525 that is really impactful? 891 00:37:07.945 --> 00:37:10.565 How do I find opportunities? How do I network? 892 00:37:11.065 --> 00:37:12.165 How do I ace interviews? 893 00:37:12.785 --> 00:37:14.405 Do, how do I negotiate to increase the amount 894 00:37:14.405 --> 00:37:16.645 of money I can get, um, or my benefits? 895 00:37:16.785 --> 00:37:18.965 How does it work into my life design as a whole? 896 00:37:19.145 --> 00:37:21.045 Do I need a portfolio? Do I go to grad school? 897 00:37:21.545 --> 00:37:23.885 Um, really if you pick any topic that really interests you, 898 00:37:23.905 --> 00:37:27.125 we can help you build your life in whatever way you want. 899 00:37:27.385 --> 00:37:29.685 So it's really like a casual conversation 900 00:37:29.685 --> 00:37:31.085 where you can just show up as you are 901 00:37:31.265 --> 00:37:32.565 and I'll show you, uh, how 902 00:37:32.565 --> 00:37:34.405 to find these opportunities here in a moment. 903 00:37:35.865 --> 00:37:38.005 Uh, so if you wanna book a career coaching appointment, 904 00:37:38.005 --> 00:37:40.685 you're going back on Handshake rather than events, 905 00:37:40.745 --> 00:37:42.125 you're gonna click career center 906 00:37:42.545 --> 00:37:45.205 and then there will be a button for appointments, uh, 907 00:37:45.205 --> 00:37:47.805 where you'll get access to all of the coaches, um, 908 00:37:48.105 --> 00:37:49.765 in your Rolodex of support. 909 00:37:50.145 --> 00:37:51.405 Uh, and you just click the one 910 00:37:51.405 --> 00:37:53.165 that you want in the meeting that you want. 911 00:37:53.185 --> 00:37:54.485 So is it in person? Is it virtual? 912 00:37:54.945 --> 00:37:56.245 To see all the opportunities. 913 00:37:56.585 --> 00:37:58.245 Um, and so happy to help. 914 00:38:00.135 --> 00:38:01.225 Okay, so if the day comes 915 00:38:01.245 --> 00:38:03.705 and you're like, alright, uh, the day is here, I'm ready 916 00:38:03.705 --> 00:38:06.025 for the career fair, here's the chronological steps 917 00:38:06.215 --> 00:38:09.145 that I would recommend that sets you up for success. 918 00:38:09.845 --> 00:38:12.385 One, you need to be the best dressed in the room. 919 00:38:12.565 --> 00:38:14.865 And that's not to say like you have to be the number one, 920 00:38:14.885 --> 00:38:18.905 but what that means, don't wear sweats to a career fair. 921 00:38:19.125 --> 00:38:20.145 And we have to reiterate that 922 00:38:20.145 --> 00:38:22.145 because no one is gonna want to talk to you 923 00:38:22.405 --> 00:38:23.465 and people aren't going 924 00:38:23.465 --> 00:38:26.345 to wanna give you a paid opportunity if 925 00:38:26.345 --> 00:38:27.425 you're coming in, in sweatpants. 926 00:38:27.845 --> 00:38:30.865 Um, so what that's to say is like dress in a way 927 00:38:30.865 --> 00:38:32.185 that makes you feel powerful. 928 00:38:32.685 --> 00:38:35.445 Um, and so sometimes for some of us, um, 929 00:38:35.515 --> 00:38:37.085 that are maybe cisgender or in male, 930 00:38:37.385 --> 00:38:38.525 you might want a suit jacket. 931 00:38:38.775 --> 00:38:40.565 Maybe you want a tie, maybe you don't. 932 00:38:40.665 --> 00:38:41.845 If you go to Kelley Career Fair, 933 00:38:41.845 --> 00:38:43.045 you're probably gonna want a tie. 934 00:38:43.345 --> 00:38:45.445 If you go to College of Arts and Sciences, you might be fine 935 00:38:45.445 --> 00:38:46.805 with a suit jacket, be fine. 936 00:38:47.385 --> 00:38:50.645 Um, so think about who are the employers I'm talking to 937 00:38:51.345 --> 00:38:52.965 and what is the type of dress 938 00:38:52.965 --> 00:38:54.805 that they they might expect in the office. 939 00:38:55.465 --> 00:38:56.725 Uh, maybe a Google search 940 00:38:56.725 --> 00:38:57.885 to see what are the type of people. 941 00:38:58.225 --> 00:38:59.925 If you're gonna talk to someone in real estate, 942 00:39:00.395 --> 00:39:02.565 they're gonna be dressed a little bit better. 943 00:39:02.905 --> 00:39:04.965 If you're talking to someone who works for a nonprofit 944 00:39:05.065 --> 00:39:07.005 or an NGO, they might be a little more casual. 945 00:39:07.625 --> 00:39:10.045 Um, so really think about what do you want 946 00:39:10.065 --> 00:39:12.845 and how do you be the best dressed in that context 947 00:39:13.545 --> 00:39:15.925 to make sure that they're, when they meet you, 948 00:39:15.925 --> 00:39:16.805 they're thinking about your 949 00:39:17.045 --> 00:39:18.645 qualifications, not about what you're wearing. 950 00:39:19.785 --> 00:39:22.325 Two, you gotta be resume ready. 951 00:39:22.865 --> 00:39:25.565 And that is to say, have several printed out. 952 00:39:25.705 --> 00:39:27.925 You're gonna want your Handshake to be. 953 00:39:28.345 --> 00:39:31.285 Um, there's a setting on your Handshake profiles to 954 00:39:31.285 --> 00:39:33.045 where it is visible to employers. 955 00:39:33.315 --> 00:39:36.005 Some of them will say, here, just check in on this QR code 956 00:39:36.005 --> 00:39:37.965 and upload your resume via Handshake. 957 00:39:37.965 --> 00:39:40.965 So you, um, so one thing that we can offer is, uh, 958 00:39:40.965 --> 00:39:42.165 we'll send you all an email 959 00:39:42.165 --> 00:39:44.885 after this with a Handshake checklist to make sure 960 00:39:44.885 --> 00:39:46.405 that your profiles are ready to go 961 00:39:46.405 --> 00:39:47.725 before you attend the career fair. 962 00:39:48.305 --> 00:39:50.885 So be Handshake ready, have maybe five 963 00:39:50.885 --> 00:39:52.125 to 10 copies of a resume. 964 00:39:52.705 --> 00:39:54.765 Um, and you can al always meet with a career coach 965 00:39:54.765 --> 00:39:56.005 before to make sure that you 966 00:39:56.005 --> 00:39:57.125 feel that you're employer ready. 967 00:39:58.195 --> 00:40:00.005 When you get to a career fair, know 968 00:40:00.005 --> 00:40:02.165 that you're probably gonna just have to do a quick check-in. 969 00:40:02.165 --> 00:40:03.885 You'll just enter your email. 970 00:40:03.955 --> 00:40:06.925 Sometimes they'll give you a name tag, maybe a lanyard. 971 00:40:06.925 --> 00:40:07.965 It's always a little different, 972 00:40:08.505 --> 00:40:11.845 but sometimes you may have to wait, um, 973 00:40:11.995 --> 00:40:14.525 because some career fairs have lines 974 00:40:14.785 --> 00:40:17.885 and they pulse people in slowly to make sure 975 00:40:17.885 --> 00:40:19.605 that everyone has an opportunity to talk to 976 00:40:19.605 --> 00:40:20.685 who they came to talk to. 977 00:40:21.225 --> 00:40:22.885 So sometimes I recommend bringing a friend 978 00:40:22.905 --> 00:40:23.925 to hang out in line. 979 00:40:23.985 --> 00:40:25.525 It will help calm your nerves. 980 00:40:26.025 --> 00:40:29.445 Um, know that like if you have a class that ends at one 981 00:40:29.745 --> 00:40:32.485 and you have a class that starts at one 30, you're, 982 00:40:32.585 --> 00:40:33.645 you may not want to go 983 00:40:33.645 --> 00:40:36.325 to the career fair in this 20, 25 minute window 984 00:40:36.325 --> 00:40:39.205 because you may not even get in to see who you want. 985 00:40:39.625 --> 00:40:41.405 So really set yourself up to success 986 00:40:41.425 --> 00:40:42.565 to say, okay, I have an hour. 987 00:40:43.045 --> 00:40:46.365 I have 1, 2, 3 employers that I want 988 00:40:46.365 --> 00:40:47.445 to talk to that I've researched. 989 00:40:47.465 --> 00:40:49.405 I'm ready to go. That's gonna help you out. 990 00:40:50.555 --> 00:40:52.325 Next thing, when you walk into a career fair, 991 00:40:52.425 --> 00:40:54.445 the first thing you do is take a lap. 992 00:40:54.795 --> 00:40:57.525 Take a full lap, don't talk to any employers, 993 00:40:57.625 --> 00:40:58.645 get a lay of the land. 994 00:40:58.665 --> 00:41:00.405 And what you can do is naturally start 995 00:41:00.405 --> 00:41:02.005 to overhear conversations. 996 00:41:02.505 --> 00:41:04.525 And what we find is it really helps people 997 00:41:04.625 --> 00:41:06.165 to calm their nerves, to know 998 00:41:06.165 --> 00:41:08.045 that they're in the right place, that everyone 999 00:41:08.045 --> 00:41:09.285 here is doing the same thing. 1000 00:41:10.305 --> 00:41:12.925 And then always I would start that when you are gonna talk 1001 00:41:12.925 --> 00:41:14.965 to your employers gut, check yourself. 1002 00:41:15.425 --> 00:41:19.005 If you had to rank who of those three to four or two 1003 00:41:19.025 --> 00:41:20.605 or three is the most important to you. 1004 00:41:21.265 --> 00:41:24.525 And usually our gut tells us like, wow, if I can only talk 1005 00:41:24.525 --> 00:41:26.605 to one person today, it's Sands Investment Group, 1006 00:41:26.995 --> 00:41:30.205 what I would recommend is don't talk to them first, talk 1007 00:41:30.225 --> 00:41:31.805 to a second or third choice. 1008 00:41:32.195 --> 00:41:36.165 Because what we find is it can really help nerves, um, 1009 00:41:36.305 --> 00:41:38.845 to help desensitize you know, how we're feeling, maybe 1010 00:41:38.845 --> 00:41:41.525 that we're sweating profusely, um, 1011 00:41:41.905 --> 00:41:43.245 or we're just not sure what to say, 1012 00:41:43.245 --> 00:41:44.765 or that we might say something silly 1013 00:41:44.765 --> 00:41:46.085 which happens and it's okay. 1014 00:41:46.705 --> 00:41:49.285 Um, but really as a chance to like work through your spiel 1015 00:41:49.285 --> 00:41:51.245 and get a chance to shake hands with someone 1016 00:41:51.465 --> 00:41:55.245 and get an employer under your belt, and then go 1017 00:41:55.295 --> 00:41:56.725 after that to the the person 1018 00:41:56.725 --> 00:41:58.565 that you really are excited most to see. 1019 00:41:58.785 --> 00:42:02.085 And then you're gonna be a little bit more prepared. Then, 1020 00:42:02.305 --> 00:42:04.645 hey, while you're there, be allow yourself 1021 00:42:04.645 --> 00:42:05.885 to be present and be kind. 1022 00:42:06.195 --> 00:42:08.645 It's really easy to feel flustered when there's, 1023 00:42:08.665 --> 00:42:09.965 it might be a little hot. 1024 00:42:10.145 --> 00:42:13.165 You've got these beautiful, you know, old IU campus rooms 1025 00:42:13.195 --> 00:42:14.525 with all of these people in it. 1026 00:42:14.905 --> 00:42:17.325 Um, it can seem overwhelming at times. 1027 00:42:17.945 --> 00:42:20.525 Um, so allow yourself to like be present in the moment that, 1028 00:42:20.625 --> 00:42:23.605 hey, if you leave the room, you have nothing lost. 1029 00:42:23.665 --> 00:42:25.605 If you have to leave and come back, that is okay 1030 00:42:26.185 --> 00:42:28.765 if you're really just wanting to get to your employer, 1031 00:42:28.785 --> 00:42:29.965 but the line is taking longer than you want 1032 00:42:29.965 --> 00:42:31.885 to know everyone's there 1033 00:42:32.145 --> 00:42:33.365 for the same reason you are. 1034 00:42:33.845 --> 00:42:35.885 Everyone's a little bit nervous, but we all, 1035 00:42:36.205 --> 00:42:37.885 everyone there probably wants something a little different 1036 00:42:37.885 --> 00:42:39.045 in terms of the opportunity. 1037 00:42:39.105 --> 00:42:40.565 So just be kind. Um, 1038 00:42:40.705 --> 00:42:42.965 and it's an easy way to like, just let control, let go 1039 00:42:42.965 --> 00:42:44.245 of the control and it'll be okay, 1040 00:42:44.985 --> 00:42:47.625 but at some point you gotta follow through. 1041 00:42:47.685 --> 00:42:48.985 You gotta talk to the employer 1042 00:42:49.125 --> 00:42:51.185 and say, I'm so glad you're here. 1043 00:42:51.285 --> 00:42:53.385 I'm so glad to see I had the opportunity to meet you today. 1044 00:42:53.605 --> 00:42:55.985 Um, thanks for making the, the trek to Bloomington. 1045 00:42:56.125 --> 00:42:57.945 Hi, I'm Trenten Rowlett. So nice to meet you. 1046 00:42:58.485 --> 00:42:59.905 Um, give yourself the chance 1047 00:42:59.925 --> 00:43:01.745 to be successful, so don't stand in your way. 1048 00:43:02.485 --> 00:43:04.945 And last but not least, always send a thank you note. 1049 00:43:05.165 --> 00:43:07.865 As we mentioned earlier, you wanna leave your employer 1050 00:43:07.895 --> 00:43:09.465 with a clear understanding. 1051 00:43:09.885 --> 00:43:12.305 Hey, before I go, what is the best ways to keep in contact? 1052 00:43:12.485 --> 00:43:14.105 Is it LinkedIn? Do you have a business card? 1053 00:43:14.645 --> 00:43:16.065 And if they give you one 1054 00:43:16.065 --> 00:43:19.185 or give you access, always send a thank you note at some 1055 00:43:19.185 --> 00:43:22.505 point in that evening because they're gonna honestly not get 1056 00:43:22.505 --> 00:43:24.545 as many think you notes as you expect. 1057 00:43:25.005 --> 00:43:26.225 Um, some records 1058 00:43:26.485 --> 00:43:29.185 and some, uh, data suggest that like less than 20% 1059 00:43:29.185 --> 00:43:30.345 of students send a thank you note. 1060 00:43:30.685 --> 00:43:31.985 Um, so this is an easy way 1061 00:43:32.085 --> 00:43:34.585 to really reinforce your name coming up again. 1062 00:43:34.585 --> 00:43:36.865 It's an easy way to make you stand out. 1063 00:43:37.015 --> 00:43:38.145 It's an easy way also for them 1064 00:43:38.145 --> 00:43:39.345 to reply and be like, so nice to meet you. 1065 00:43:39.405 --> 00:43:40.665 Hey, we have a position. I'd love 1066 00:43:40.665 --> 00:43:42.745 to hear more about your, your experiences. 1067 00:43:43.245 --> 00:43:44.625 So this is gonna be really key. 1068 00:43:47.095 --> 00:43:49.795 So to set you all up, we are wanted to provide you 1069 00:43:49.865 --> 00:43:53.315 with a long set of lists of all of the career fairs 1070 00:43:53.315 --> 00:43:54.595 that are coming to know. 1071 00:43:54.855 --> 00:43:58.195 You can go to every single one of these, 1072 00:43:58.575 --> 00:44:00.635 but some of 'em probably speak out to you more than others. 1073 00:44:00.635 --> 00:44:04.355 So I'll give you some context. So on September 3rd and 4th, 1074 00:44:04.375 --> 00:44:07.395 Kelley School of Business is gonna be hosting, 1075 00:44:07.695 --> 00:44:10.195 um, two different accounting career fairs. 1076 00:44:10.935 --> 00:44:13.115 You do not need to be an accounting major, 1077 00:44:13.345 --> 00:44:14.955 even though the title says accounting 1078 00:44:14.955 --> 00:44:16.355 major, that to go to it. 1079 00:44:16.655 --> 00:44:18.435 So if you are an economics major 1080 00:44:18.455 --> 00:44:20.755 and you're like, I wanna go into accounting, 1081 00:44:20.915 --> 00:44:23.635 I wanna be an actuary, actuarial science, 1082 00:44:24.095 --> 00:44:26.875 and you're like, I wanna go into to meet these employers, 1083 00:44:27.015 --> 00:44:29.195 or maybe you see there's an employer there 1084 00:44:29.195 --> 00:44:31.685 and they're hiring for HR professionals, 1085 00:44:31.995 --> 00:44:35.325 marketing professionals, you can go in and say hi 1086 00:44:35.345 --> 00:44:36.365 and introduce yourself 1087 00:44:36.625 --> 00:44:39.325 and if anything, sometimes having a different major might be 1088 00:44:39.325 --> 00:44:40.645 the thing that makes you stand out the most. 1089 00:44:41.305 --> 00:44:42.605 Um, but there're gonna be two 1090 00:44:42.605 --> 00:44:44.085 and they're gonna be really focusing 1091 00:44:44.085 --> 00:44:45.165 on accounting industries. 1092 00:44:46.065 --> 00:44:48.085 Um, on September 10th, College 1093 00:44:48.085 --> 00:44:50.645 and O'Neill are gonna be working together, uh, 1094 00:44:50.665 --> 00:44:51.925 for a Pre-fair Workshop 1095 00:44:51.925 --> 00:44:53.005 because they're gonna host a career 1096 00:44:53.005 --> 00:44:54.405 fair together on September 11th. 1097 00:44:54.825 --> 00:44:57.885 So the Pre-fair Workshop is going to more details to come. 1098 00:44:57.905 --> 00:44:59.445 You might see it on a Handshake at some 1099 00:44:59.445 --> 00:45:00.525 point, so keep an eye out. 1100 00:45:00.785 --> 00:45:02.645 Um, but they'll have a developmental opportunity 1101 00:45:02.745 --> 00:45:04.805 to make sure students feel extra comfortable 1102 00:45:05.025 --> 00:45:06.125 for the very next day. 1103 00:45:07.455 --> 00:45:10.715 My favorite event on here is actually on September 12th. 1104 00:45:10.975 --> 00:45:14.355 It is gonna be a campus-wide Career Fair Simulation. 1105 00:45:14.855 --> 00:45:16.675 So for students who are like, I've never been 1106 00:45:16.675 --> 00:45:18.395 to a career fair, you know, I want to go 1107 00:45:18.395 --> 00:45:19.555 to the one on the 17th 1108 00:45:19.855 --> 00:45:21.475 and you know, I'd like to get some experience 1109 00:45:21.475 --> 00:45:22.715 and try to work out my nerves ahead of time. 1110 00:45:23.175 --> 00:45:26.755 Or maybe you need, um, you know, OPT or sponsorship 1111 00:45:26.875 --> 00:45:28.755 and you're like not sure how to talk about it 1112 00:45:28.755 --> 00:45:30.435 with an employer, whatever your need 1113 00:45:30.435 --> 00:45:33.035 or barrier is, the Career Fair Simulation, 1114 00:45:33.085 --> 00:45:35.035 we'll actually use professionals, career coaches, 1115 00:45:35.295 --> 00:45:38.235 career service professionals across campus, um, 1116 00:45:38.375 --> 00:45:41.315 to do a mock career fair so that you can get some practice 1117 00:45:41.315 --> 00:45:44.155 and get some easy, safe, low stakes feedback. 1118 00:45:44.175 --> 00:45:46.755 So if you aren't sure which one to go to, I recommend to go 1119 00:45:46.755 --> 00:45:50.785 to this one for sure. On the 15th and the 16th, College 1120 00:45:50.805 --> 00:45:53.505 And, uh, O'Neill will have a career fair, um, 1121 00:45:53.955 --> 00:45:56.105 where they're gonna do an Employer Networking Night the 1122 00:45:56.105 --> 00:45:58.705 night before. On the 17th, Kelley School 1123 00:45:58.705 --> 00:46:01.265 of Business in the Eskenazi School will host a retail 1124 00:46:01.705 --> 00:46:03.945 oriented career fair on the 18th. 1125 00:46:04.075 --> 00:46:07.145 Luddy will host theirs. On the 10th, the 16th 1126 00:46:07.245 --> 00:46:08.705 and October 15th, 1127 00:46:08.705 --> 00:46:10.585 Kelley will have an in-person career fair 1128 00:46:10.605 --> 00:46:13.585 for all business industries. On the 12th, 1129 00:46:13.725 --> 00:46:15.465 the 26th and November 14th 1130 00:46:15.465 --> 00:46:17.025 they're gonna have a virtual career fair 1131 00:46:17.025 --> 00:46:18.145 for all business industries. 1132 00:46:18.845 --> 00:46:20.225 Um, Luddy will having one 1133 00:46:20.225 --> 00:46:23.785 with very an emphasis on tech technology industries 1134 00:46:23.785 --> 00:46:24.905 on the 9th of October. 1135 00:46:25.725 --> 00:46:28.265 And finally, um, uh, Dana, 1136 00:46:28.745 --> 00:46:30.385 a career service professional working 1137 00:46:30.385 --> 00:46:31.505 with me at the Walter Center. 1138 00:46:31.715 --> 00:46:34.945 We're gonna be hosting a Business, Retail Tech Connect Day on 1139 00:46:34.945 --> 00:46:38.265 the 4th to help connect students in these industries, uh, 1140 00:46:38.285 --> 00:46:39.745 to alumni and professionals. 1141 00:46:40.245 --> 00:46:43.425 So we'll be hosting, um, star free Starbucks, uh, 1142 00:46:43.485 --> 00:46:46.185 for a certain amount of students to meet a logistics, 1143 00:46:46.345 --> 00:46:47.785 a supply chain employer called 1144 00:46:48.145 --> 00:46:49.305 Hometown Logistics in the morning. 1145 00:46:49.725 --> 00:46:51.705 Um, so watch Handshake for that. 1146 00:46:52.285 --> 00:46:55.865 Um, we'll be hosting a biotechnology grad 1147 00:46:55.865 --> 00:46:56.985 school, kind of a luncheon. 1148 00:46:56.985 --> 00:46:59.825 We'll provide lunch here, um, how people are, 1149 00:47:00.045 --> 00:47:01.585 are looking at tech and grad school 1150 00:47:01.685 --> 00:47:04.865 and local populations here, um, in Bloomington for lunch. 1151 00:47:05.445 --> 00:47:06.865 Um, and then we actually have an alumni 1152 00:47:07.125 --> 00:47:09.625 who works at Vera Bradley who's gonna be talking about 1153 00:47:09.735 --> 00:47:12.425 product design and retail, um, that afternoon. 1154 00:47:12.485 --> 00:47:16.425 So stay tuned. Um, so hey, 1155 00:47:16.425 --> 00:47:17.665 if you have trouble getting started 1156 00:47:17.665 --> 00:47:19.465 and you're like, you know what, this was a lot 1157 00:47:19.645 --> 00:47:22.065 but I don't a hundred percent know what to do next. 1158 00:47:22.615 --> 00:47:23.705 Scan this QR code. 1159 00:47:23.805 --> 00:47:25.305 Um, I'm sure Megan Ray has already 1160 00:47:25.305 --> 00:47:26.425 shared the link in the chat. 1161 00:47:26.685 --> 00:47:28.505 And this is a Business Pathway resource 1162 00:47:28.595 --> 00:47:31.525 where Megan Ray has actually done really remarkable work 1163 00:47:31.665 --> 00:47:35.965 to provide resources that break it down by time limitations. 1164 00:47:36.585 --> 00:47:38.165 Hey, if you've only got 20, 30 minutes, 1165 00:47:38.435 --> 00:47:40.125 here are some easy things to do. 1166 00:47:40.315 --> 00:47:42.165 Come to the Walter Center, we'll give you a free headshot. 1167 00:47:42.235 --> 00:47:44.165 It's no charge. Show up when you want Monday through Friday. 1168 00:47:44.705 --> 00:47:46.605 If you've got, you know, an hour to two, here's 1169 00:47:46.605 --> 00:47:49.765 what you could try, three to four, et cetera. 1170 00:47:50.275 --> 00:47:51.445 This is a really great place 1171 00:47:51.465 --> 00:47:53.285 to just get started if you don't know what else to do. 1172 00:47:55.465 --> 00:47:59.605 So some final notes, um, before we turn off the recording 1173 00:47:59.625 --> 00:48:01.965 and of course if you have any questions, we'd be happy 1174 00:48:01.985 --> 00:48:03.485 and excited to, to meet. 1175 00:48:03.485 --> 00:48:05.965 And answer is one, how do you make an appointment? 1176 00:48:06.605 --> 00:48:08.485 Coaching I can tell you is imagine 1177 00:48:09.145 --> 00:48:10.805 you guys are all islands, right? 1178 00:48:11.185 --> 00:48:13.765 Uh, you're in the world figuring out what you want 1179 00:48:13.765 --> 00:48:14.965 and not sure how to connect. 1180 00:48:15.315 --> 00:48:18.645 Coaches, in my opinion, are the bridges that can really help 1181 00:48:18.705 --> 00:48:21.125 to make it easy to navigate where you are 1182 00:48:21.125 --> 00:48:22.885 and where you want to be and where a bridge 1183 00:48:22.885 --> 00:48:25.045 that just really works for you and you alone. 1184 00:48:25.705 --> 00:48:28.125 Um, and if you're a person that maybe wants to meet 1185 00:48:28.125 --> 00:48:29.205 with me specifically, 1186 00:48:29.225 --> 00:48:30.325 but maybe you aren't, 1187 00:48:30.325 --> 00:48:32.805 you can't access access me on Handshake, 1188 00:48:32.805 --> 00:48:34.645 maybe you're not in the College of Arts and Sciences, 1189 00:48:35.065 --> 00:48:37.925 Um, I sent you all an email about 30 minutes ago 1190 00:48:37.925 --> 00:48:39.085 to say that we were about to start. 1191 00:48:39.345 --> 00:48:40.685 So you have my email, but here it is. 1192 00:48:40.745 --> 00:48:42.005 You can email me directly. 1193 00:48:42.105 --> 00:48:45.005 And, um, Joe Lovejoy, the assistant dean 1194 00:48:45.005 --> 00:48:47.405 for the Walter Center, uh, has graciously agreed 1195 00:48:47.405 --> 00:48:48.565 to let you all have access 1196 00:48:48.565 --> 00:48:50.525 to our Career Service office, um, if you'd like. 1197 00:48:51.305 --> 00:48:54.125 Um, and so before we wrap up, um, I'll turn it over 1198 00:48:54.185 --> 00:48:57.285 to Megan Ray, um, with some final words and, 1199 00:48:57.285 --> 00:48:58.285 and tell you about, um, 1200 00:48:58.365 --> 00:49:00.205 a little post evaluation and for feedback. 1201 00:49:00.985 --> 00:49:03.925 Hi everyone. Thank you so much Trenten. 1202 00:49:04.085 --> 00:49:07.685 I really, really appreciate your expertise in sharing this 1203 00:49:07.685 --> 00:49:08.925 with folks and going through this. 1204 00:49:09.225 --> 00:49:12.205 We had a number of folks ask if we'd be able 1205 00:49:12.205 --> 00:49:13.725 to share the recording for this 1206 00:49:13.945 --> 00:49:16.725 and certainly we will be able to do that. 1207 00:49:16.745 --> 00:49:19.405 We are also hoping to post it on the Business Pathways 1208 00:49:19.635 --> 00:49:22.205 website, uh, as we go through that process. 1209 00:49:22.425 --> 00:49:25.645 So we'll make sure to notify you all when that is available. 1210 00:49:25.825 --> 00:49:27.205 If you want to take a look at it. 1211 00:49:27.745 --> 00:49:31.845 I'm putting now into the chat a link to an evaluation 1212 00:49:31.865 --> 00:49:34.125 for this program that I would so, 1213 00:49:34.465 --> 00:49:37.565 so appreciate if you would just take a few moments while 1214 00:49:37.565 --> 00:49:39.485 we're getting ready to stop the recording 1215 00:49:39.545 --> 00:49:42.085 and enter for a Q&A period. 1216 00:49:42.625 --> 00:49:44.765 If you could just take a little bit of time to buzz 1217 00:49:44.765 --> 00:49:47.885 through these four or five questions to let Trenten 1218 00:49:47.885 --> 00:49:51.325 and I know what things we can improve, what really worked 1219 00:49:51.345 --> 00:49:54.325 for you as a part of this experience so that we can continue 1220 00:49:54.325 --> 00:49:56.125 to improve this kind of session. 1221 00:49:56.665 --> 00:49:58.245 So that would be super helpful to us. 1222 00:49:58.705 --> 00:50:00.405 So, uh, I'm gonna go ahead 1223 00:50:00.405 --> 00:50:03.245 and stop the recording now so we can open up for Q&A.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.265 --> 00:00:23.135 Hello and welcome everyone. 2 00:00:24.195 --> 00:00:25.345 We're excited to see you. 3 00:00:25.365 --> 00:00:28.185 We have a few more minutes until our official start time, 4 00:00:28.405 --> 00:00:29.785 so just sit tight 5 00:00:30.045 --> 00:00:32.385 and we'll get started in just a few moments. 6 00:00:32.685 --> 00:00:34.065 Thanks so much for being here. 7 00:03:04.505 --> 00:03:07.895 Hello and welcome. Thank you all so much for being here. 8 00:03:08.035 --> 00:03:09.255 We just have a few more minutes 9 00:03:09.315 --> 00:03:11.655 before our advertised start time of three 30. 10 00:03:12.075 --> 00:03:13.535 So if you all just wanna sit tight 11 00:03:13.835 --> 00:03:15.575 and, uh, hang out 12 00:03:15.675 --> 00:03:17.735 for just a little bit longer, then we'll get started. 13 00:03:17.755 --> 00:03:18.495 Thanks so much. 14 00:04:36.215 --> 00:04:38.925 Hello, my name is Megan Ray 15 00:04:39.225 --> 00:04:41.725 and I'm the director of Kelley Campus Partnerships, 16 00:04:41.945 --> 00:04:43.805 and I'm absolutely delighted 17 00:04:44.075 --> 00:04:46.565 that you all have joined us today for this session. 18 00:04:47.425 --> 00:04:48.965 And I'm super excited 19 00:04:48.965 --> 00:04:52.485 because, uh, the Business Pathways area has partnered 20 00:04:52.485 --> 00:04:54.605 with career exploration and student employment, 21 00:04:54.945 --> 00:04:58.085 and my amazing colleague Lisa Hamilton is here. 22 00:04:58.595 --> 00:04:59.925 Lisa, if you wanna say hello. 23 00:05:00.825 --> 00:05:03.525 Yes, thank you so much, Megan. Hi everyone. 24 00:05:03.665 --> 00:05:05.165 My name is Lisa Hamilton. 25 00:05:05.885 --> 00:05:09.485 I am the Associate Director for Exploratory Career Coaching 26 00:05:09.915 --> 00:05:11.445 with Career Exploration 27 00:05:11.465 --> 00:05:12.725 and Student Employment, 28 00:05:13.005 --> 00:05:15.485 formerly the Career Development Center, if you've been 29 00:05:15.485 --> 00:05:19.685 around for more than a year, um, at IU. 30 00:05:20.145 --> 00:05:22.605 Um, but yeah, I'm very happy to be working 31 00:05:22.635 --> 00:05:23.805 with Megan on this. 32 00:05:24.885 --> 00:05:26.175 Well, we're super excited 33 00:05:26.235 --> 00:05:27.775 and wanted to start today's session 34 00:05:27.805 --> 00:05:30.775 with the Land Acknowledgement, so acknowledging 35 00:05:30.955 --> 00:05:33.695 and honoring the Miami, Delaware, Potawatomi 36 00:05:33.695 --> 00:05:37.055 and Shawnee people on whose ancestral lands 37 00:05:37.055 --> 00:05:39.495 and resources the school and the campus has built, 38 00:05:39.595 --> 00:05:42.375 and encourage you all to learn more about that process. 39 00:05:42.675 --> 00:05:45.455 So this Land Acknowledgement comes from the First Nations 40 00:05:45.655 --> 00:05:48.055 Cultural Center here on the IU Bloomington campus, 41 00:05:48.115 --> 00:05:50.375 and it's a great source, uh, for research 42 00:05:50.375 --> 00:05:52.535 or just for learning more through their program. 43 00:05:52.915 --> 00:05:55.615 So thank you so much, uh, for joining us. 44 00:05:55.625 --> 00:05:57.330 We're super excited that you all are here, 45 00:05:57.665 --> 00:05:59.525 and let's go ahead and get started. 46 00:06:03.045 --> 00:06:05.495 Okay? Yes. Um, this is finding Internship 47 00:06:05.715 --> 00:06:07.575 and other high impact practices. 48 00:06:10.315 --> 00:06:12.815 So today what we're gonna do is walk 49 00:06:12.815 --> 00:06:14.135 through a bunch of different pieces. 50 00:06:14.395 --> 00:06:18.135 So I wanna first acknowledge the fact that the idea 51 00:06:18.135 --> 00:06:19.375 of searching for internships, 52 00:06:19.435 --> 00:06:21.175 no matter whether you're a first year student 53 00:06:21.195 --> 00:06:23.255 or a second year student, third year student, 54 00:06:23.535 --> 00:06:25.375 wherever you are in the process where you're joining us 55 00:06:25.375 --> 00:06:27.215 today, it can be super intimidating. 56 00:06:27.795 --> 00:06:29.775 It also feels like every person 57 00:06:29.845 --> 00:06:32.255 that you know has an internship, right? 58 00:06:32.355 --> 00:06:34.975 Or has already had one or stacking them up. 59 00:06:34.975 --> 00:06:36.655 And it, particularly when it comes to folks 60 00:06:36.715 --> 00:06:39.295 who are maybe interested in working in business, 61 00:06:39.515 --> 00:06:41.615 it can feel super, super intimidating. 62 00:06:42.085 --> 00:06:44.855 It's also hard to know where just to start, right? 63 00:06:45.155 --> 00:06:46.935 So I'm hoping today that you'll be able 64 00:06:46.935 --> 00:06:49.215 to take some good notes and then walk away from this 65 00:06:49.215 --> 00:06:50.575 with some very actionable 66 00:06:50.575 --> 00:06:52.175 steps of things you could be doing. 67 00:06:52.395 --> 00:06:55.535 So we're also gonna give you a bird's eye view into 68 00:06:55.535 --> 00:06:56.575 what kinds of skills 69 00:06:56.595 --> 00:06:58.415 and attributes employers are looking 70 00:06:58.475 --> 00:06:59.975 for in their candidates. 71 00:07:00.185 --> 00:07:01.655 We're gonna give you some experiences 72 00:07:01.655 --> 00:07:03.455 that you can actually start on as soon 73 00:07:03.455 --> 00:07:06.215 as you get off this particular webinar with us. 74 00:07:06.665 --> 00:07:08.615 We're gonna talk about some of the alternatives 75 00:07:08.615 --> 00:07:09.735 to internship searches 76 00:07:10.085 --> 00:07:13.015 that may be very valuable in giving you those same kinds 77 00:07:13.015 --> 00:07:15.455 of skills that employers are looking for. 78 00:07:15.705 --> 00:07:17.575 We're gonna cover some search strategies, 79 00:07:17.595 --> 00:07:18.615 and then we're gonna talk about 80 00:07:18.635 --> 00:07:21.335 how the different career services from all the different 81 00:07:21.575 --> 00:07:24.135 academic units and also from career exploration 82 00:07:24.135 --> 00:07:26.815 and student employment can help you with these processes. 83 00:07:26.955 --> 00:07:28.255 So take it away, Lisa. 84 00:07:28.745 --> 00:07:31.215 Thank you, Megan. Um, yes, as Megan said, 85 00:07:31.215 --> 00:07:32.895 we're gonna be covering a lot today. 86 00:07:33.035 --> 00:07:35.615 So if you have, um, something to write on 87 00:07:35.675 --> 00:07:37.135 and write with that might be helpful 88 00:07:37.235 --> 00:07:39.015 to jot down some notes as we go. 89 00:07:39.275 --> 00:07:41.335 And please know that we're giving you lots 90 00:07:41.335 --> 00:07:42.775 of different examples, not 91 00:07:42.775 --> 00:07:45.015 because we expect you to do every single thing, 92 00:07:45.355 --> 00:07:48.175 but we're hoping that you'll find some things that resonate 93 00:07:48.175 --> 00:07:50.775 with you that might be helpful for you to start right away. 94 00:07:51.075 --> 00:07:53.455 But I thought a good place to start might be, 95 00:07:54.235 --> 00:07:56.015 why are you even wanting an internship? 96 00:07:56.525 --> 00:07:59.215 Besides that reason that Megan already mentioned it, 97 00:07:59.215 --> 00:08:00.975 it feels like everybody's getting an internship, 98 00:08:01.115 --> 00:08:02.855 and that's what we're supposed to be doing. 99 00:08:02.855 --> 00:08:05.215 Think about what you're hoping to get out 100 00:08:05.215 --> 00:08:06.775 of an internship experience 101 00:08:07.075 --> 00:08:08.775 and why you're hoping to do that right now. 102 00:08:09.395 --> 00:08:12.855 And I have some ex um, some ideas here that may have come up 103 00:08:12.855 --> 00:08:14.135 for you when you think about this. 104 00:08:14.755 --> 00:08:16.935 Um, so maybe you wanna use it to network 105 00:08:17.195 --> 00:08:19.975 and you're hoping to meet people in an industry 106 00:08:19.975 --> 00:08:22.135 that you want to break into, right? 107 00:08:22.795 --> 00:08:25.655 Um, maybe you wanna start building those marketable skills. 108 00:08:25.755 --> 00:08:28.655 You pr you came to college with some skills, right? 109 00:08:29.115 --> 00:08:30.815 But you wanna keep building on that 110 00:08:30.835 --> 00:08:33.255 and building the skills you're gonna need in the future, 111 00:08:33.595 --> 00:08:34.655 in, in future work. 112 00:08:37.605 --> 00:08:41.345 Um, maybe to better understand a specific career field 113 00:08:41.345 --> 00:08:43.265 or organization, you think, okay, 114 00:08:43.305 --> 00:08:44.545 I think maybe I wanna go into this, 115 00:08:44.565 --> 00:08:47.065 but what is it really like on a day-to-day basis? 116 00:08:47.065 --> 00:08:49.665 Certainly an internship would help you 117 00:08:49.665 --> 00:08:50.705 understand that, right? 118 00:08:51.765 --> 00:08:54.625 Or you just wanna imp impress employers. 119 00:08:54.845 --> 00:08:56.765 You wanna show them that you've done these things. 120 00:08:56.865 --> 00:08:59.325 You have, you've had these in internships 121 00:08:59.325 --> 00:09:01.525 that you've networked and interacted with people 122 00:09:02.105 --> 00:09:04.445 in certain fields doing certain kinds of work. 123 00:09:05.065 --> 00:09:07.965 So when we think about impressing employers, we might think, 124 00:09:09.465 --> 00:09:10.795 what are they really looking for? 125 00:09:10.825 --> 00:09:12.235 What skills are they looking for? 126 00:09:12.385 --> 00:09:15.235 What attributes, what kinds of things are they looking 127 00:09:15.335 --> 00:09:19.395 for in future employees and in interns? 128 00:09:19.935 --> 00:09:22.395 So, um, think for just a moment about that, 129 00:09:22.465 --> 00:09:23.715 what you think that might be. 130 00:09:24.295 --> 00:09:26.155 And I'm gonna go ahead 131 00:09:26.155 --> 00:09:30.235 and tap onto this next, um, uh, slide here. 132 00:09:30.775 --> 00:09:33.995 And what, uh, is about to come up are a list 133 00:09:34.015 --> 00:09:36.915 of eight career competencies. 134 00:09:37.095 --> 00:09:40.795 So this is like groupings of skills that employers 135 00:09:41.455 --> 00:09:43.355 are looking for, that they look for. 136 00:09:43.465 --> 00:09:45.435 This comes from the National Association 137 00:09:45.435 --> 00:09:46.555 of Colleges and Employers. 138 00:09:46.555 --> 00:09:47.635 You don't need to memorize that, 139 00:09:47.635 --> 00:09:49.595 but I just want you to understand this is a national 140 00:09:49.595 --> 00:09:51.875 organization that does a lot of research 141 00:09:52.495 --> 00:09:56.995 and career service offices across the country, look to them, 142 00:09:57.245 --> 00:10:01.115 their leadership, and helping us to be able to help you with 143 00:10:01.115 --> 00:10:04.395 that transition from college to full-time employment. 144 00:10:04.855 --> 00:10:06.195 So when you think about what is, 145 00:10:06.195 --> 00:10:07.515 what is an employer looking for? 146 00:10:07.545 --> 00:10:12.355 What do they need? What do they want in a future employee? 147 00:10:12.615 --> 00:10:15.515 Or in this case, maybe in an intern, right? 148 00:10:16.095 --> 00:10:18.435 So these are the eight competencies 149 00:10:18.985 --> 00:10:20.155 that they have put together. 150 00:10:20.815 --> 00:10:22.275 And you can see that, 151 00:10:22.335 --> 00:10:23.955 and I'll go through each one of them here in a moment, 152 00:10:23.975 --> 00:10:25.235 but I just want you to understand 153 00:10:25.235 --> 00:10:27.595 that like something like communication, 154 00:10:27.945 --> 00:10:30.715 certainly you already know how to communicate, right? 155 00:10:30.715 --> 00:10:32.955 You've been doing that almost all of your life, 156 00:10:33.495 --> 00:10:35.875 but we can still improve on that. 157 00:10:36.135 --> 00:10:37.755 So throughout our lives 158 00:10:37.815 --> 00:10:40.075 and throughout our careers, we continue to improve. 159 00:10:40.215 --> 00:10:41.595 So these are the kinds of things 160 00:10:41.595 --> 00:10:44.475 that we don't just do one class or have one experience with, 161 00:10:44.535 --> 00:10:45.995 and boom, I got it. 162 00:10:46.175 --> 00:10:47.595 Got that down pat. Don't need 163 00:10:47.595 --> 00:10:48.915 to learn anything more about that. 164 00:10:49.375 --> 00:10:51.155 Um, so these are a little bit, um, 165 00:10:51.305 --> 00:10:53.955 more complex than just one specific skill. 166 00:10:54.535 --> 00:10:57.235 So we're looking at career or critical thinking. 167 00:10:57.695 --> 00:11:00.355 So being able to look and see different points of view 168 00:11:00.415 --> 00:11:03.235 and think, um, in terms of what, you know, 169 00:11:03.305 --> 00:11:05.115 what might be a good solution 170 00:11:05.335 --> 00:11:07.115 to this problem, that kind of thing. 171 00:11:07.795 --> 00:11:10.115 Communication, we're talking about written 172 00:11:10.295 --> 00:11:13.595 and verbal communication, teamwork, being able 173 00:11:13.595 --> 00:11:14.835 to work on a team and, 174 00:11:14.975 --> 00:11:17.675 and take into account lots of different ideas 175 00:11:17.855 --> 00:11:19.035 and bringing those together. 176 00:11:19.605 --> 00:11:22.355 Technology. When we talk about technology, we're not saying, 177 00:11:22.355 --> 00:11:25.115 oh, you need to know this one specific program 178 00:11:25.535 --> 00:11:28.155 or this one specific, um, you know, 179 00:11:28.225 --> 00:11:29.915 code in this language or anything like that. 180 00:11:29.915 --> 00:11:31.875 We're talking about technology in general. 181 00:11:32.375 --> 00:11:36.395 How do we use it to help employers solve problems, 182 00:11:36.655 --> 00:11:37.875 be be more efficient? 183 00:11:37.895 --> 00:11:39.315 So it could be lots of different things, 184 00:11:39.375 --> 00:11:42.075 but being able to use technology in those ways. 185 00:11:42.685 --> 00:11:46.595 Leadership, so being a leader, um, some of us maybe, 186 00:11:46.775 --> 00:11:49.315 you know, have a tendency to want to lead all the time. 187 00:11:49.315 --> 00:11:51.995 Others are a little bit more quiet in our leadership skills, 188 00:11:52.095 --> 00:11:54.925 but being able to look at a team and, 189 00:11:55.305 --> 00:11:57.245 and make sure everybody's on board and, 190 00:11:57.505 --> 00:11:59.365 and get the best work out of each other 191 00:11:59.545 --> 00:12:02.685 and honor the kinds of, um, life experiences 192 00:12:02.865 --> 00:12:04.405 and skills that people are bringing. 193 00:12:04.705 --> 00:12:06.845 That's all part of leadership. Professionalism. 194 00:12:06.985 --> 00:12:08.765 Now, there's a lot of things that go into professionalism, 195 00:12:09.345 --> 00:12:13.725 but this might include, you know, um, just being organized, 196 00:12:13.985 --> 00:12:17.305 um, and, you know, being able to, 197 00:12:18.085 --> 00:12:19.265 oh, I just lost my train of thought. 198 00:12:19.285 --> 00:12:20.785 But just being organized and, 199 00:12:20.965 --> 00:12:23.425 and, you know, lots of different ways we can show our 200 00:12:23.425 --> 00:12:26.465 professionalism in a, in, um, a work setting. 201 00:12:27.045 --> 00:12:30.145 Now, career and self development. Oh, go ahead Megan. 202 00:12:30.705 --> 00:12:33.745 I think some great examples are email professionalism, 203 00:12:34.535 --> 00:12:35.905 text message, professionalism. 204 00:12:36.135 --> 00:12:37.985 Like if you're in a situation where you're texting 205 00:12:38.495 --> 00:12:42.825 with your supervisor, um, certainly personal presentation, 206 00:12:42.895 --> 00:12:45.345 like how you physically show up to the office, 207 00:12:45.685 --> 00:12:48.505 how you mentally show up to the office, if that's the case. 208 00:12:48.885 --> 00:12:51.985 If you're working remote, what does that look like, um, 209 00:12:52.085 --> 00:12:53.185 in terms of professionalism. 210 00:12:53.365 --> 00:12:54.705 So those are just a few examples 211 00:12:54.705 --> 00:12:56.025 that popped into my head. Lisa, 212 00:12:56.755 --> 00:12:57.755 Those are awesome. Thank 213 00:12:57.755 --> 00:13:00.225 you so much, Megan. I just couldn't think of anything. 214 00:13:00.225 --> 00:13:01.345 Whoops. Let me go back one, 215 00:13:01.425 --> 00:13:03.065 I just accidentally touched my keyboard there. 216 00:13:03.335 --> 00:13:05.865 Okay. Um, thank you for that. 217 00:13:06.165 --> 00:13:09.305 And so then the next one is career and self-development. 218 00:13:09.425 --> 00:13:10.905 I feel like this one's probably the one 219 00:13:10.905 --> 00:13:12.785 that needs the most explanation. 220 00:13:12.845 --> 00:13:15.545 We might not think in these terms just on our own, 221 00:13:15.845 --> 00:13:17.145 but this is the kind of work 222 00:13:17.145 --> 00:13:19.025 that career coaches can help you with. 223 00:13:19.085 --> 00:13:20.865 So understanding yourself better, 224 00:13:20.865 --> 00:13:22.345 understanding your strengths 225 00:13:22.565 --> 00:13:24.745 and your areas that maybe you need 226 00:13:24.745 --> 00:13:26.185 to grow in a little bit more. 227 00:13:26.685 --> 00:13:30.065 Uh, being able to advocate for yourself, to think about, 228 00:13:30.095 --> 00:13:31.665 well, I wanna grow in this way, 229 00:13:31.685 --> 00:13:34.905 or I wanna be able to eventually do this kind of work, 230 00:13:35.045 --> 00:13:37.265 so I'm going to need to learn these skills. 231 00:13:37.445 --> 00:13:42.025 So in advocating for yourself, going to a, um, a supervisor 232 00:13:42.205 --> 00:13:44.905 and asking, could I be a part of this project? 233 00:13:45.035 --> 00:13:47.385 Could I have this tr special training? 234 00:13:47.515 --> 00:13:49.985 Could I be a part of this team? Different things like that. 235 00:13:50.485 --> 00:13:51.985 And then equity and inclusion. 236 00:13:52.125 --> 00:13:56.385 Equity inclusion, um, means honoring the lived experiences 237 00:13:56.485 --> 00:13:58.025 of people who are different from you 238 00:13:58.125 --> 00:14:00.025 and knowing that we all have value 239 00:14:00.045 --> 00:14:03.425 and we're all bringing value to a work environment. 240 00:14:04.125 --> 00:14:08.185 Now, um, this isn't part of this particular, uh, workshop 241 00:14:08.185 --> 00:14:10.505 that we're doing today, but I do wanna tell you that these, 242 00:14:11.045 --> 00:14:14.715 um, eight competencies are on our website, 243 00:14:14.715 --> 00:14:16.155 which we'll look at at the end. 244 00:14:16.815 --> 00:14:20.275 And not only has description of what they are, 245 00:14:21.095 --> 00:14:23.715 but also ways you can grow in, 246 00:14:23.775 --> 00:14:26.555 in different ways when it comes to, um, trying 247 00:14:26.555 --> 00:14:27.715 to develop in these areas. 248 00:14:27.855 --> 00:14:30.035 And again, this is what employers are looking for. 249 00:14:30.095 --> 00:14:31.755 So while we're in classes 250 00:14:32.095 --> 00:14:34.315 and while we're doing different activities, 251 00:14:34.375 --> 00:14:36.635 how can we help ourselves grow in these ways? 252 00:14:37.695 --> 00:14:39.195 So we're gonna look at some of those ways 253 00:14:40.455 --> 00:14:43.235 And I just wanna commend all of you for being here 254 00:14:43.235 --> 00:14:45.555 because you're already taking a step in your career 255 00:14:45.575 --> 00:14:47.995 and self-development by spending this time 256 00:14:47.995 --> 00:14:50.435 with us over your, uh, break. 257 00:14:50.575 --> 00:14:53.765 So, yes, go. 258 00:14:54.425 --> 00:14:56.525 So if you have met with me at all 259 00:14:56.785 --> 00:14:59.365 or attended a presentation that I've done, you know 260 00:14:59.395 --> 00:15:01.805 that I am a huge fan of Forage, 261 00:15:01.805 --> 00:15:03.965 which is a virtual work simulation. 262 00:15:04.145 --> 00:15:07.805 So at the end of October, we had the Halloween holiday 263 00:15:08.015 --> 00:15:11.405 where kids get their costumes on, try them on, 264 00:15:11.425 --> 00:15:12.965 and they walk around neighborhoods. 265 00:15:13.785 --> 00:15:16.365 So Forage is sort of like putting on the costume 266 00:15:16.865 --> 00:15:19.565 of a working professional in a particular area. 267 00:15:20.155 --> 00:15:23.685 It's an opportunity to try on a different set of tasks, 268 00:15:24.005 --> 00:15:26.645 a different set of roles, and to learn a little bit about 269 00:15:26.645 --> 00:15:29.085 that industry from the inside out. 270 00:15:29.625 --> 00:15:32.925 So one of the things I love about Forage is 271 00:15:32.925 --> 00:15:35.725 that it doesn't require you to have any kind of experience. 272 00:15:35.905 --> 00:15:39.645 So if you are not sure about the particular language a 273 00:15:39.645 --> 00:15:42.445 company is using or a particular concept 274 00:15:42.665 --> 00:15:46.605 or idea, the reality is is that Forage is gonna walk you 275 00:15:46.605 --> 00:15:48.685 through exactly what that means. 276 00:15:48.825 --> 00:15:51.645 So you are going to get a very close look at 277 00:15:51.645 --> 00:15:54.285 what it would be like to work in that industry, specifically. 278 00:15:54.905 --> 00:15:56.285 iI many of the simulations 279 00:15:56.285 --> 00:15:59.285 there's also an opportunity to connect with those employers 280 00:15:59.745 --> 00:16:02.565 so you have the opportunity to kind of get into the pipeline 281 00:16:02.565 --> 00:16:04.325 with them right from the very beginning. 282 00:16:04.825 --> 00:16:07.245 And my favorite thing about Forage is 283 00:16:07.245 --> 00:16:09.365 that when you're all done with these simulations, 284 00:16:09.375 --> 00:16:11.285 which are like projects that you do, 285 00:16:11.745 --> 00:16:14.605 you actually get a tiny blurb that you can cut 286 00:16:14.605 --> 00:16:17.725 and paste into your extracurricular activities on your 287 00:16:17.965 --> 00:16:19.925 LinkedIn profile and on your resume. 288 00:16:20.465 --> 00:16:22.765 And how cool is it to be able to 289 00:16:23.315 --> 00:16:24.725 open up the LinkedIn profile 290 00:16:24.725 --> 00:16:26.325 and see, oh, they've already had exposure 291 00:16:26.385 --> 00:16:27.765 to these kinds of companies. 292 00:16:28.185 --> 00:16:29.965 So this is a really great program 293 00:16:30.185 --> 00:16:32.485 and I encourage each of you to plan to spend some time, 294 00:16:32.835 --> 00:16:36.165 perhaps even over the winter break when you have a little 295 00:16:36.165 --> 00:16:37.805 bit of extra time to get these started. 296 00:16:37.865 --> 00:16:39.765 But honestly, you could start one 297 00:16:39.765 --> 00:16:43.485 of these this afternoon if you wanted to. 298 00:16:43.525 --> 00:16:45.565 I wanted to make sure that you knew what kinds 299 00:16:45.565 --> 00:16:47.645 of things you could be doing at Forage. 300 00:16:47.705 --> 00:16:52.005 And so this is just an example you can filter from the job 301 00:16:52.075 --> 00:16:55.485 simulations page to get into the specific area. 302 00:16:55.705 --> 00:16:59.245 So if you were interested in real estate specifically, 303 00:16:59.415 --> 00:17:03.165 there are two simulations from the CBRE company 304 00:17:03.705 --> 00:17:06.565 and they, one of them has to do with commercial real estate. 305 00:17:06.785 --> 00:17:09.205 One of them has to do with construction management. 306 00:17:09.585 --> 00:17:11.765 So you could take a look at those simulations. 307 00:17:12.165 --> 00:17:15.165 A lot of them will have a brief video that starts 308 00:17:15.385 --> 00:17:16.805 and it introduces the project 309 00:17:16.865 --> 00:17:18.445 and then it walks you through the steps. 310 00:17:18.875 --> 00:17:22.125 They also give you an estimated amount of time 311 00:17:22.125 --> 00:17:23.725 that it'll take to do one. 312 00:17:23.785 --> 00:17:26.005 So if you're interested in exploring consulting, 313 00:17:26.255 --> 00:17:30.085 there is a one to two hour consulting simulation 314 00:17:30.085 --> 00:17:31.605 through Forage that you can do, 315 00:17:32.105 --> 00:17:33.405 but you don't have to sit down and do it 316 00:17:33.405 --> 00:17:34.445 in a two hour block. 317 00:17:34.665 --> 00:17:37.685 You could do it at 30 minute block here, 45 minute here, 318 00:17:37.995 --> 00:17:39.365 hour here until you're finished. 319 00:17:39.425 --> 00:17:41.085 So it's something that you can really kind 320 00:17:41.085 --> 00:17:44.645 of schedule yourself to do throughout that winter break. 321 00:17:46.715 --> 00:17:49.055 So just to give you a little bit more detail, 322 00:17:49.595 --> 00:17:53.645 this is a group of these simulations 323 00:17:53.645 --> 00:17:56.085 that are specific to the filter for sales. 324 00:17:56.545 --> 00:17:58.845 So if you were interested or wanted to try on 325 00:17:58.845 --> 00:18:00.885 or thought, I don't know if I would enjoy sales, 326 00:18:01.325 --> 00:18:02.405 I wanna see what that's like. 327 00:18:02.785 --> 00:18:03.925 You can dive into this 328 00:18:04.025 --> 00:18:06.205 and can practice these different types. 329 00:18:06.785 --> 00:18:10.805 And so looking at this piece too, seeing if on-premise sales 330 00:18:10.905 --> 00:18:13.325 or if the client engagement off-premise sales, 331 00:18:13.665 --> 00:18:17.125 you're already learning that there are different languages 332 00:18:17.145 --> 00:18:19.365 and different terms for the types of sales 333 00:18:19.395 --> 00:18:21.805 that happen within these product companies. 334 00:18:22.145 --> 00:18:24.765 So if you're more interested in the advertising component 335 00:18:24.795 --> 00:18:26.685 than New York Times has one as well. 336 00:18:27.105 --> 00:18:30.485 And as you can see from the simulations, they have a 337 00:18:31.165 --> 00:18:33.685 timeline that they give to you for how long they estimate 338 00:18:33.685 --> 00:18:36.365 that it will take you to complete this in addition 339 00:18:36.365 --> 00:18:37.605 to the level of difficulty. 340 00:18:37.825 --> 00:18:41.245 So typically the introductory ones are the ones 341 00:18:41.245 --> 00:18:42.685 that you'll search for right at the beginning, 342 00:18:42.985 --> 00:18:45.605 and then you could move into the intermediate options. 343 00:18:45.705 --> 00:18:46.805 But I've also had students 344 00:18:46.835 --> 00:18:48.965 that jump right into the intermediate 345 00:18:49.225 --> 00:18:50.925 and have a great experience regardless. 346 00:18:52.755 --> 00:18:54.945 Right? And uh, Megan, I also wanted 347 00:18:54.965 --> 00:18:58.585 to mention if there's anyone on on the call today 348 00:18:59.045 --> 00:19:02.785 who is an international student with an F1 Visa, um, 349 00:19:02.835 --> 00:19:07.105 these experiences do not count towards your CPT time. 350 00:19:07.365 --> 00:19:09.385 So you can do these experiences 351 00:19:09.765 --> 00:19:11.705 and still have your full CPT time. 352 00:19:13.145 --> 00:19:14.645 Thanks, Lisa. Mm-hmm. 353 00:19:16.745 --> 00:19:19.565 Um, we have now some micro internships 354 00:19:19.565 --> 00:19:22.565 that you might look into and these will count towards CPT 355 00:19:22.565 --> 00:19:24.845 time if you are an F1 Visa student. 356 00:19:25.265 --> 00:19:29.645 Um, so Parker Dewey and Work and Learn Indiana are two. 357 00:19:30.105 --> 00:19:32.525 And just as with Forage, these are free 358 00:19:32.875 --> 00:19:36.045 that you can get onto and, um, start an account with 359 00:19:36.145 --> 00:19:38.085 and you can build real world experience. 360 00:19:38.105 --> 00:19:39.205 You actually do get paid. 361 00:19:39.395 --> 00:19:40.885 They're projects are 362 00:19:41.415 --> 00:19:44.285 often just virtual projects you can work on on your own 363 00:19:44.385 --> 00:19:46.285 and take about five to 15 hours. 364 00:19:46.825 --> 00:19:50.205 And many of them don't require previous previous experience. 365 00:19:50.385 --> 00:19:53.805 So, um, again, all free to our students. 366 00:19:56.825 --> 00:19:59.685 And then we wanted to talk about campus involvement. 367 00:19:59.905 --> 00:20:03.885 So, uh, we have, and you've probably heard this before, 368 00:20:04.065 --> 00:20:09.045 but we have over 750, uh, student organizations on campus. 369 00:20:09.265 --> 00:20:10.845 So all kinds of things. 370 00:20:11.225 --> 00:20:15.165 Uh, some of them are, you know, like the Harry Potter Club, 371 00:20:15.585 --> 00:20:17.845 the Sweet Potato Club, I don't know if the Sweet Potato Club 372 00:20:17.855 --> 00:20:19.085 still around, but it might be. 373 00:20:19.225 --> 00:20:23.285 But then they're all are also ones that are, um, connected 374 00:20:23.345 --> 00:20:27.365 to future, uh, possible careers or career industries. 375 00:20:27.985 --> 00:20:31.855 And we would suggest being a part of either or both. 376 00:20:32.435 --> 00:20:35.455 Um, so they help you gain leadership experience 377 00:20:35.915 --> 00:20:39.715 and with the ones that are focused on specific industries, 378 00:20:39.715 --> 00:20:41.675 you're gonna learn more about that industry. 379 00:20:41.775 --> 00:20:46.235 So often the, with these student organizations, um, 380 00:20:47.345 --> 00:20:49.955 part of their mission is professional 381 00:20:49.955 --> 00:20:51.315 development for their members. 382 00:20:51.815 --> 00:20:56.075 So they might, um, do things like, you know, take trips 383 00:20:56.295 --> 00:20:58.115 and learn about different industries 384 00:20:58.375 --> 00:21:01.595 or develop a portfolio depending on the field. 385 00:21:02.055 --> 00:21:05.915 Um, they, um, might have employers come 386 00:21:05.935 --> 00:21:08.115 and talk about internship opportunities. 387 00:21:08.345 --> 00:21:10.755 They might have alumni come 388 00:21:10.775 --> 00:21:12.835 and talk about here's what I would recommend 389 00:21:12.835 --> 00:21:14.315 and here's how I use my degree, 390 00:21:14.335 --> 00:21:15.395 and different things like that. 391 00:21:15.415 --> 00:21:16.635 So it's a chance to network. 392 00:21:17.975 --> 00:21:19.795 Not only that, but you're actually meeting people 393 00:21:19.855 --> 00:21:22.435 who are also, um, you know, 394 00:21:22.815 --> 00:21:25.075 in interested in the same things you're interested in. 395 00:21:25.095 --> 00:21:27.875 And maybe some of them are upperclassmen, so 396 00:21:27.875 --> 00:21:30.115 that means they might graduate before you, right? 397 00:21:30.615 --> 00:21:34.125 Um, and 80% 398 00:21:34.125 --> 00:21:36.845 of the time jobs found in the US are through networking. 399 00:21:36.905 --> 00:21:40.245 So it could be that that older student who graduates 400 00:21:40.245 --> 00:21:43.645 and starts to work for a company that might in the end be, 401 00:21:43.645 --> 00:21:46.965 um, a real great connection for you to have as well. 402 00:21:47.105 --> 00:21:48.645 And then I think, Megan, 403 00:21:48.675 --> 00:21:51.245 were you gonna talk about the students? 404 00:21:51.495 --> 00:21:53.325 Could you talk about a little bit about the student 405 00:21:53.325 --> 00:21:55.805 leadership or student involvement in leadership center? 406 00:21:56.645 --> 00:21:58.245 Absolutely. So one of the things that I see 407 00:21:58.245 --> 00:22:01.405 with students at this point in time in the semester is maybe 408 00:22:01.525 --> 00:22:03.565 they've chosen not to get involved in something 409 00:22:03.625 --> 00:22:05.485 or they just haven't found the right fit, 410 00:22:05.545 --> 00:22:06.845 or they applied for a student 411 00:22:06.845 --> 00:22:08.445 organization and didn't get in. 412 00:22:08.705 --> 00:22:11.205 But there are lots of student organizations at IU 413 00:22:11.205 --> 00:22:13.405 that have no application process. 414 00:22:13.625 --> 00:22:16.445 You can simply join the group and can become a part of that. 415 00:22:16.825 --> 00:22:19.565 And one of the places to start is the Student Involvement 416 00:22:19.585 --> 00:22:20.725 and Leadership Center. 417 00:22:21.385 --> 00:22:23.045 And I checked this morning 418 00:22:23.145 --> 00:22:25.085 and it looks like there is a break in the link 419 00:22:25.145 --> 00:22:27.685 for their calendar for these one-on-one appointments, 420 00:22:28.265 --> 00:22:29.645 but this is something 421 00:22:29.645 --> 00:22:31.965 that you could contact the Student Involvement and Leadership 422 00:22:31.965 --> 00:22:35.045 Center about, and to say, I'd like to meet with somebody 423 00:22:35.045 --> 00:22:36.485 and talk about how to get involved. 424 00:22:37.015 --> 00:22:39.965 There will also be some involvement opportunities at the 425 00:22:39.965 --> 00:22:41.645 beginning of next semester. 426 00:22:41.915 --> 00:22:43.445 Typically, there will be events 427 00:22:43.445 --> 00:22:45.045 that will be held right at the beginning 428 00:22:45.305 --> 00:22:48.245 of when classes start that would give you an opportunity 429 00:22:48.265 --> 00:22:49.405 to get involved again. 430 00:22:50.185 --> 00:22:52.925 And so I strongly encourage you to get connected 431 00:22:52.925 --> 00:22:54.205 with those and to check those out. 432 00:22:54.505 --> 00:22:57.485 If you need help brainstorming ways to get involved, 433 00:22:57.485 --> 00:22:59.085 you're welcome to send me an email. 434 00:22:59.485 --> 00:23:01.405 I can get you connected with the Student Involvement 435 00:23:01.405 --> 00:23:03.885 and Leadership Center folks, be happy to do that. 436 00:23:04.065 --> 00:23:07.045 So, but do make a plan to connect 437 00:23:07.045 --> 00:23:08.925 with at least one student organization. 438 00:23:09.155 --> 00:23:12.485 Sometimes I think students aren't sure if they've gone 439 00:23:12.485 --> 00:23:15.965 through the recruitment process for, uh, Greek life, if 440 00:23:15.965 --> 00:23:19.725 that counts as a student organization, it certainly does. 441 00:23:19.825 --> 00:23:22.005 So that's something that can also provide you 442 00:23:22.005 --> 00:23:23.525 with some really great opportunities. 443 00:23:24.065 --> 00:23:25.065 Thanks, Lisa. 444 00:23:28.485 --> 00:23:31.695 Sure. I also wanted to mention beINvolved, so 445 00:23:31.695 --> 00:23:35.935 that beinvolved.indiana.edu is a database 446 00:23:35.935 --> 00:23:40.895 where you can, um, learn about, you can filter by lots 447 00:23:40.895 --> 00:23:42.015 of different interest areas 448 00:23:42.155 --> 00:23:44.455 and find student organizations that way. 449 00:23:45.105 --> 00:23:46.965 So lots of different ways to connect. 450 00:23:51.215 --> 00:23:53.115 So again, you don't have to do all these things. 451 00:23:53.295 --> 00:23:55.995 We just want to give you some different ideas of ways 452 00:23:56.065 --> 00:23:58.875 that you could connect and, um, get involved 453 00:23:59.095 --> 00:24:00.715 and start to build experience. 454 00:24:00.855 --> 00:24:04.515 And one of those might be volunteering. Um, IU Corps, 455 00:24:05.165 --> 00:24:07.555 which is an organization on campus. 456 00:24:08.135 --> 00:24:11.835 Um, well, it's an office on campus that connects students 457 00:24:12.375 --> 00:24:16.755 and faculty and all the resources for IU with lots 458 00:24:16.755 --> 00:24:19.835 of different opportunities and needs in our community 459 00:24:20.095 --> 00:24:21.595 and in surrounding communities 460 00:24:21.615 --> 00:24:23.595 and even throughout the country and world. 461 00:24:24.055 --> 00:24:27.035 Um, we do have, there, they do have a form 462 00:24:27.545 --> 00:24:28.755 that you can complete. 463 00:24:28.895 --> 00:24:31.115 Um, it will help connect you 464 00:24:31.115 --> 00:24:35.435 with an a volunteer type internship that might be exactly 465 00:24:35.505 --> 00:24:36.595 what you're looking for. 466 00:24:37.175 --> 00:24:39.075 Um, so you can check out more on their 467 00:24:39.075 --> 00:24:42.275 website at iucore.indiana.edu. 468 00:24:42.975 --> 00:24:46.515 And then Kelley Institute for Social Impact is open 469 00:24:46.535 --> 00:24:48.515 to all students at IU Bloomington 470 00:24:48.855 --> 00:24:51.595 and has a very specific focus of tying 471 00:24:52.155 --> 00:24:54.875 business related skills to social entrepreneurship. 472 00:24:54.975 --> 00:24:57.675 So using your business skills to do good in the world. 473 00:24:58.135 --> 00:25:01.155 And through the Civic Leadership Development organization 474 00:25:01.295 --> 00:25:03.955 within the Kelly Institute for Social Impact, 475 00:25:04.425 --> 00:25:06.715 they have a series of either ongoing 476 00:25:06.935 --> 00:25:09.955 or one-time type events that students can use 477 00:25:09.955 --> 00:25:11.195 to build those sorts of skills. 478 00:25:11.575 --> 00:25:13.195 So that's something worth checking out. 479 00:25:13.935 --> 00:25:17.235 KISI has an online newsletter, so you can go online 480 00:25:17.535 --> 00:25:20.075 and actually sign up to get their weekly newsletter 481 00:25:20.075 --> 00:25:22.795 that announces all kinds of different opportunities. 482 00:25:24.695 --> 00:25:27.955 And, and just from the point of view of career services, 483 00:25:28.185 --> 00:25:31.675 I'll just say that having these volunteer experiences on a 484 00:25:31.675 --> 00:25:36.195 resume is a wonderful way to show areas of interest 485 00:25:36.415 --> 00:25:38.355 to connect with future employers 486 00:25:38.355 --> 00:25:41.875 and recruiters to kind of just show your well-roundedness 487 00:25:42.095 --> 00:25:44.635 and, you know, things that you have a passion for. 488 00:25:45.095 --> 00:25:47.795 Um, there's a lot more to it than just, 489 00:25:48.015 --> 00:25:49.115 you know, helping somebody out. 490 00:25:49.155 --> 00:25:52.755 I mean, there's, there's a lot of ways to connect and show 491 00:25:52.815 --> 00:25:56.715 and build skills and, um, you know, just show your passions. 492 00:26:02.505 --> 00:26:07.125 So also, um, it might be that you decide to work part-time 493 00:26:07.185 --> 00:26:08.765 or maybe you already work part-time, 494 00:26:08.785 --> 00:26:10.965 but you haven't thought about, you know, how 495 00:26:10.965 --> 00:26:12.445 that is helping you develop. 496 00:26:13.025 --> 00:26:15.005 So there is some research that shows 497 00:26:15.005 --> 00:26:19.285 that working about eight to 12 hours per week, um, those 498 00:26:19.805 --> 00:26:22.525 students that do this are more likely to graduate. 499 00:26:22.995 --> 00:26:25.325 They earn a higher GPA on average than 500 00:26:25.365 --> 00:26:26.445 a student who doesn't work. 501 00:26:26.865 --> 00:26:28.845 And they have higher, higher earnings. 502 00:26:29.105 --> 00:26:33.525 Postgraduation also some, oftentimes more, uh, 503 00:26:33.525 --> 00:26:36.965 closely connecting their graduate, their, their work 504 00:26:36.965 --> 00:26:39.405 after graduation to, to the kind of work 505 00:26:39.405 --> 00:26:40.485 that they want to be doing. 506 00:26:41.495 --> 00:26:43.565 International students can work on 507 00:26:43.565 --> 00:26:45.085 campus, that's not a problem. 508 00:26:45.545 --> 00:26:48.285 And you will develop those transferable skills. 509 00:26:48.845 --> 00:26:51.245 Remember those skills we talked about, these kinds 510 00:26:51.245 --> 00:26:53.645 of skills are being developed, um, 511 00:26:53.645 --> 00:26:57.165 whether you're working IU Dining, working for the SRSC, 512 00:26:57.165 --> 00:26:59.685 working for IU Libraries, um, lots 513 00:26:59.685 --> 00:27:03.485 of different opportunities on campus to develop and, 514 00:27:03.665 --> 00:27:06.405 and, um, you know, critical thinking, communication, 515 00:27:06.805 --> 00:27:08.405 teamwork, leadership, these kinds of things. 516 00:27:09.345 --> 00:27:12.325 And if you applied, if you've already applied 517 00:27:12.325 --> 00:27:14.405 for a job on campus and maybe didn't hear back 518 00:27:14.625 --> 00:27:17.445 or didn't get connected, you can meet with a member 519 00:27:17.705 --> 00:27:19.285 of the Career Services team 520 00:27:19.825 --> 00:27:21.845 to help you review your materials 521 00:27:21.845 --> 00:27:23.725 and to see how you might better position yourself 522 00:27:23.745 --> 00:27:25.005 for the second time around. 523 00:27:26.335 --> 00:27:27.645 Right? That's great. And 524 00:27:27.645 --> 00:27:29.605 that leads perfectly into this slide. 525 00:27:29.705 --> 00:27:33.125 Um, as you may have noticed at the beginning, the office 526 00:27:33.125 --> 00:27:35.325 that I work for, the second part of our work 527 00:27:35.325 --> 00:27:38.085 besides career exploration, is student employment. 528 00:27:38.145 --> 00:27:41.805 So we are the student employment office for all students 529 00:27:42.495 --> 00:27:44.485 first year through graduate students. 530 00:27:44.705 --> 00:27:46.005 So if you need any help 531 00:27:46.065 --> 00:27:49.165 or a stronger connection to help you with finding 532 00:27:49.315 --> 00:27:51.645 that part-time job, we are here for you. 533 00:27:51.985 --> 00:27:54.725 Um, we have some staff who speak regularly 534 00:27:54.725 --> 00:27:56.205 with on-campus employers, 535 00:27:56.225 --> 00:27:59.405 and we try to keep those connections, you know, 536 00:27:59.405 --> 00:28:01.605 always learning the latest of what's happening 537 00:28:01.625 --> 00:28:04.885 and where different organizations on campus are hiring and, 538 00:28:05.145 --> 00:28:06.765 and also off campus as well. 539 00:28:08.035 --> 00:28:09.815 So that's studentemployment. 540 00:28:10.335 --> 00:28:11.735 I don't know if it's still, I think it is still 541 00:28:11.795 --> 00:28:13.615 cdc.indiana.edu, 542 00:28:14.515 --> 00:28:16.935 but we'll have more information at the end also. 543 00:28:20.015 --> 00:28:23.635 So research might be a way, um, that you 544 00:28:24.285 --> 00:28:27.355 could also gain some experience in developing those ways 545 00:28:27.355 --> 00:28:30.475 that we were talking about earlier, the NACE competencies. 546 00:28:31.095 --> 00:28:35.385 So you can, this is a research university 547 00:28:35.645 --> 00:28:38.425 and, um, there are lots of opportunities even 548 00:28:38.485 --> 00:28:41.065 for undergraduate students to do research. 549 00:28:41.225 --> 00:28:42.425 I think oftentimes people think 550 00:28:42.425 --> 00:28:43.865 of graduate students doing research, 551 00:28:44.205 --> 00:28:46.665 but undergraduate students can do research 552 00:28:47.245 --> 00:28:49.225 and it helps you develop in lots of ways. 553 00:28:49.815 --> 00:28:52.025 This is another way that you might find 554 00:28:52.215 --> 00:28:54.585 that you might be able to work on your career readiness 555 00:28:54.785 --> 00:28:55.905 skills or prepare 556 00:28:55.905 --> 00:28:58.105 for graduate school helps you grow 557 00:28:58.275 --> 00:28:59.865 personally and professionally. 558 00:29:00.345 --> 00:29:03.865 Academic success, um, helps with critical thinking, 559 00:29:03.935 --> 00:29:05.265 reading and writing skills. 560 00:29:05.925 --> 00:29:08.745 And it also might help you better understand your areas 561 00:29:08.745 --> 00:29:10.945 of interest and what what might be, um, 562 00:29:11.535 --> 00:29:14.265 what might be a good fit for you moving forward. 563 00:29:15.215 --> 00:29:20.075 And you're also developing connections with professors 564 00:29:20.495 --> 00:29:22.515 and other personnel on campus. 565 00:29:23.535 --> 00:29:27.035 Um, the Office of Engaged Learning is a great place 566 00:29:27.175 --> 00:29:29.275 to start if you're thinking about researching. 567 00:29:29.935 --> 00:29:32.715 Uh, they have lots of opportunities there. 568 00:29:33.135 --> 00:29:34.875 You can also meet with our staff. 569 00:29:35.335 --> 00:29:38.595 We can help with op with research opportunities as well, 570 00:29:38.615 --> 00:29:41.445 or at least connecting you to the right people to speak 571 00:29:41.445 --> 00:29:43.525 with about various research opportunities. 572 00:29:43.785 --> 00:29:45.805 But I'll also say that meeting 573 00:29:46.065 --> 00:29:48.085 or talking with professors in area 574 00:29:48.225 --> 00:29:51.595 and majors in departments of interest 575 00:29:51.595 --> 00:29:54.435 to you is a great place to start with research. 576 00:29:59.645 --> 00:30:02.715 So, lots of different things here. 577 00:30:03.875 --> 00:30:07.075 We still haven't really gotten to actual internships, right? 578 00:30:07.125 --> 00:30:09.595 We're kind of talking about all these little building blocks 579 00:30:09.655 --> 00:30:12.475 and things that you could put together for yourself 580 00:30:12.535 --> 00:30:13.635 for maybe next summer. 581 00:30:14.825 --> 00:30:17.675 Certainly we're hoping an, an internship is, um, 582 00:30:17.785 --> 00:30:19.355 what you're able to find 583 00:30:19.495 --> 00:30:21.795 and find something that's a great fit for you. 584 00:30:22.455 --> 00:30:24.755 But in the meantime, you could also think about some 585 00:30:24.755 --> 00:30:27.115 of the things that we just discussed. 586 00:30:27.535 --> 00:30:29.235 Um, and remember your why, 587 00:30:29.305 --> 00:30:30.675 like we talked about at the beginning, 588 00:30:31.375 --> 00:30:32.755 why do you want an internship? 589 00:30:33.615 --> 00:30:35.115 So when we think about that, if you, 590 00:30:35.175 --> 00:30:36.315 if you said in your mind 591 00:30:36.315 --> 00:30:40.355 or wrote down why want an network, um, some ways to network 592 00:30:40.885 --> 00:30:42.955 might be informational interview. 593 00:30:42.975 --> 00:30:46.075 So an informational interview is an interview where we kind 594 00:30:46.075 --> 00:30:47.075 of turn the table. 595 00:30:47.415 --> 00:30:49.955 So instead of being interviewed for a job, 596 00:30:50.015 --> 00:30:52.435 you're interviewing someone about their job 597 00:30:52.655 --> 00:30:55.155 to learn more about what is this really like? 598 00:30:55.585 --> 00:30:58.875 It's an opportunity to understand better a career field, 599 00:30:59.615 --> 00:31:03.315 to understand how you might move into that career field 600 00:31:03.455 --> 00:31:05.155 and also your networking. 601 00:31:05.415 --> 00:31:08.075 So I've had many students who've done informational 602 00:31:08.075 --> 00:31:10.275 interviews, you know, I've helped connect them. 603 00:31:10.455 --> 00:31:12.795 Our career coaches can help connect you with people 604 00:31:13.095 --> 00:31:14.875 who might be in a field that you're thinking about, 605 00:31:14.905 --> 00:31:16.155 that you're interested in. 606 00:31:16.535 --> 00:31:18.395 And then those same students 607 00:31:18.455 --> 00:31:20.835 who did those informational interviews were called later 608 00:31:20.855 --> 00:31:22.595 and, and, and asked, Hey, 609 00:31:22.595 --> 00:31:24.195 do you wanna apply for this internship? 610 00:31:24.495 --> 00:31:28.035 Do you want to, um, you, do you wanna work on this project? 611 00:31:28.295 --> 00:31:30.275 Or, you know, have a part-time job with us? 612 00:31:30.455 --> 00:31:33.675 So, um, you can do informational interviewing 613 00:31:33.675 --> 00:31:35.915 to help you network attending career fairs 614 00:31:36.055 --> 00:31:37.275 or, or career events. 615 00:31:37.625 --> 00:31:38.955 This could be networking events. 616 00:31:39.145 --> 00:31:41.795 Lots of different ways you could network also. 617 00:31:41.935 --> 00:31:44.435 And we kind of talked about a lot of these along the way. 618 00:31:45.015 --> 00:31:47.555 Um, when we think about building those marketable skills, 619 00:31:47.645 --> 00:31:50.075 maybe it's Forage, maybe it's LinkedIn Learning, 620 00:31:50.095 --> 00:31:51.675 we didn't actually talk about that today, 621 00:31:51.775 --> 00:31:56.355 but LinkedIn Learning, um, you know, this is something 622 00:31:56.355 --> 00:31:58.595 that all IU students have an account for. 623 00:31:58.595 --> 00:32:00.355 There's lots of great things on there. 624 00:32:00.855 --> 00:32:02.915 Um, Parker Dewey, Indiana Work 625 00:32:02.915 --> 00:32:04.715 and Learn, volunteering, all these might help you 626 00:32:04.715 --> 00:32:05.875 build those marketable skills. 627 00:32:06.335 --> 00:32:08.475 Um, and then you, if you're wanting 628 00:32:08.475 --> 00:32:10.875 to better understand a sp specific career field, 629 00:32:11.655 --> 00:32:15.795 or an organization, again, as Megan talked about, Forage, 630 00:32:15.795 --> 00:32:18.235 those informational interviews could help job shadowing. 631 00:32:18.295 --> 00:32:20.355 So it's all kind of, you know, it all kind 632 00:32:20.355 --> 00:32:22.555 of works together, but there might be a few different things 633 00:32:22.555 --> 00:32:24.435 that you choose to do in 634 00:32:24.455 --> 00:32:26.715 and to impress employers, any of these experiences. 635 00:32:26.785 --> 00:32:29.435 Like Megan said, the fact that you are on this, 636 00:32:29.505 --> 00:32:32.675 this Zoom call today, um, on your, 637 00:32:32.895 --> 00:32:35.995 on your Thanksgiving break, you are already doing, 638 00:32:36.315 --> 00:32:37.355 starting to do that work. 639 00:32:38.015 --> 00:32:42.285 Um, and so I have this bowl of soup down here at the bottom, 640 00:32:42.785 --> 00:32:45.005 and I have making soup versus a can of soup. 641 00:32:45.005 --> 00:32:46.125 Okay, what do I mean by that? 642 00:32:46.225 --> 00:32:49.405 So I have a colleague that I used to work with, um, 643 00:32:49.785 --> 00:32:51.365 he was just incredible 644 00:32:51.545 --> 00:32:53.725 and he always came up with the best analogies. 645 00:32:54.065 --> 00:32:58.525 And he talked about how, um, having an internship 646 00:32:58.785 --> 00:33:01.845 or getting an internship is like a can of soup, right? 647 00:33:02.025 --> 00:33:05.245 So when we have those internships that we look for, 648 00:33:05.275 --> 00:33:07.525 that we hear about people saying, oh, I got this internship 649 00:33:07.635 --> 00:33:10.285 with this company, and it's all kind of set in stone. 650 00:33:10.435 --> 00:33:12.885 It's a specific internship that's sort 651 00:33:12.885 --> 00:33:14.685 of like buying a can of soup, right? 652 00:33:14.715 --> 00:33:16.525 It's all right there all together. 653 00:33:16.525 --> 00:33:20.165 They're getting opportunities, um, they're building skills, 654 00:33:20.235 --> 00:33:21.925 they're networking, that kind of thing. 655 00:33:22.385 --> 00:33:23.645 But also, and 656 00:33:23.645 --> 00:33:26.285 what might even be better is making your own soup. 657 00:33:26.345 --> 00:33:29.525 So kind of putting together different ingredients of 658 00:33:29.525 --> 00:33:30.765 what would make an internship, 659 00:33:31.585 --> 00:33:33.125 but maybe you're gonna do that yourself. 660 00:33:33.865 --> 00:33:35.845 So what might that look like? 661 00:33:35.945 --> 00:33:38.605 So that might look like maybe you're going home 662 00:33:38.625 --> 00:33:42.845 for the summer and you, um, know you have, you know, 663 00:33:42.925 --> 00:33:45.805 a local company or a local organization 664 00:33:46.385 --> 00:33:49.565 or place a nonprofit that maybe you could say, Hey, 665 00:33:49.825 --> 00:33:54.765 do you need help with, um, your, your marketing? 666 00:33:54.905 --> 00:33:56.525 Do you need help with your website? 667 00:33:56.665 --> 00:33:57.925 Do you need help with something? 668 00:33:57.925 --> 00:34:00.005 And maybe you're gonna volunteer a little bit of your time. 669 00:34:00.185 --> 00:34:01.765 Or if it's a small company, 670 00:34:02.035 --> 00:34:04.845 they probably can't build a big internship program, 671 00:34:05.065 --> 00:34:07.725 but they might love to take on an intern to help 672 00:34:07.725 --> 00:34:09.365 with something, one thing or another. 673 00:34:09.625 --> 00:34:12.925 So maybe you're gonna spend about, I don't know, 20, 10 674 00:34:12.985 --> 00:34:14.565 to 20 hours of your time doing that. 675 00:34:14.695 --> 00:34:16.325 Maybe you also need to work someplace 676 00:34:16.325 --> 00:34:18.005 because you just need to earn some money 677 00:34:18.465 --> 00:34:21.285 and you're gonna work at McDonald's for 20 hours a week. 678 00:34:21.285 --> 00:34:22.685 You're gonna volunteer somewhere 679 00:34:22.745 --> 00:34:24.565 for 10 hours a week and build those skills. 680 00:34:25.025 --> 00:34:27.245 And then maybe you could tell yourself, okay, you know what? 681 00:34:27.305 --> 00:34:29.325 I'm going to do two 682 00:34:29.985 --> 00:34:33.685 or three Forage, um, modules this summer. 683 00:34:34.065 --> 00:34:37.125 I'm going to do two informational interviews 684 00:34:37.865 --> 00:34:41.805 and I am going to sign up for a LinkedIn Learning. 685 00:34:42.105 --> 00:34:44.125 So you're kind of just putting it together yourself. 686 00:34:44.125 --> 00:34:45.525 You're making your own soup, 687 00:34:45.785 --> 00:34:48.605 but it's going to help you in all these ways, right? 688 00:34:48.605 --> 00:34:50.365 You're gonna build those marketable skills 689 00:34:50.365 --> 00:34:52.685 through your volunteer experience and through your work. 690 00:34:52.945 --> 00:34:54.485 You're going to be networking. 691 00:34:54.865 --> 00:34:57.965 Um, you're going to be learning about different industries, 692 00:34:57.965 --> 00:35:00.245 especially if you do some of those informational interviews, 693 00:35:00.745 --> 00:35:04.045 the Forage, um, you know, lots of different ways to do that. 694 00:35:04.465 --> 00:35:07.885 Um, so we can create our own experience 695 00:35:08.065 --> 00:35:11.485 and it really might check a lot of those boxes of things 696 00:35:11.485 --> 00:35:15.045 that we're hoping to get out of that internship. 697 00:35:16.125 --> 00:35:20.845 Anything you wanna add to that, Megan? No. Okay. Okay. 698 00:35:21.185 --> 00:35:25.225 So you might be thinking, yeah, okay, that's great, Lisa 699 00:35:25.245 --> 00:35:27.705 and Megan, but come on, I really wanna know, 700 00:35:27.705 --> 00:35:28.785 how do I get an internship? 701 00:35:29.615 --> 00:35:33.145 Okay, so when we think about internships, maybe 702 00:35:33.365 --> 00:35:35.345 for our extroverts, they love this. 703 00:35:35.395 --> 00:35:37.325 Maybe for our introverts, not so much. 704 00:35:37.465 --> 00:35:40.365 So really a lot of it is networking. 705 00:35:41.145 --> 00:35:45.885 So networking, um, means connecting with others, um, 706 00:35:46.595 --> 00:35:48.525 with a sense of curiosity, wanting 707 00:35:48.545 --> 00:35:52.165 to learn more about a company, about a person's work, about 708 00:35:52.265 --> 00:35:53.965 how they got where they are. 709 00:35:54.465 --> 00:35:56.485 Um, could be, you know, again, 710 00:35:56.505 --> 00:35:57.845 the informational interviewing. 711 00:35:57.865 --> 00:36:02.245 It could be, um, attending some networking events. 712 00:36:02.275 --> 00:36:04.885 There's lots of different ways we can connect with others. 713 00:36:04.945 --> 00:36:07.045 And again, career coaches can help you more 714 00:36:07.515 --> 00:36:09.125 with more steps for that. 715 00:36:09.765 --> 00:36:11.445 I will also say with Forage, 716 00:36:11.545 --> 00:36:13.805 and I, I'm not sure Megan if you mentioned this or not, 717 00:36:13.945 --> 00:36:17.565 but when, when you get on Forage, you can reach out. 718 00:36:17.565 --> 00:36:18.645 Once you have that account 719 00:36:18.645 --> 00:36:20.685 and you've started doing some of these modules, 720 00:36:20.685 --> 00:36:22.045 you can reach out to recruiters 721 00:36:22.045 --> 00:36:23.565 and recruiters can reach out to you. 722 00:36:23.585 --> 00:36:25.725 So networking can happen through that as well. 723 00:36:26.465 --> 00:36:28.085 Um, so networking, 724 00:36:28.375 --> 00:36:30.045 we're gonna go into a little bit more detail with each 725 00:36:30.045 --> 00:36:32.125 of these, but networking, most 726 00:36:32.125 --> 00:36:33.445 of our time is spent networking. 727 00:36:33.575 --> 00:36:35.325 We're also gonna do some researching, 728 00:36:35.325 --> 00:36:39.245 and only about 10% of our time actually applying for things. 729 00:36:40.065 --> 00:36:42.085 Um, I think a lot of times people think 730 00:36:42.085 --> 00:36:44.085 that's the first thing, they just keep applying 731 00:36:44.145 --> 00:36:46.845 and keep applying, but really these other ways 732 00:36:46.845 --> 00:36:48.485 of connecting can be helpful. 733 00:36:48.825 --> 00:36:51.085 So why networking? Why this much? 734 00:36:51.235 --> 00:36:55.525 Well, we find that really about 80% of jobs are in 735 00:36:55.525 --> 00:36:57.325 what we call the hidden job market. 736 00:36:58.185 --> 00:37:02.045 So these are jobs that may never actually be posted. 737 00:37:02.905 --> 00:37:06.285 Um, you know, Megan and I work for Indiana University. 738 00:37:06.475 --> 00:37:10.165 When Indiana University has an open position, they do have 739 00:37:10.165 --> 00:37:13.085 to, they have to, um, post the position 740 00:37:13.085 --> 00:37:14.805 because it's a public university. 741 00:37:15.225 --> 00:37:18.125 But, um, organizations, businesses, 742 00:37:18.125 --> 00:37:20.365 they don't necessarily have to post things. 743 00:37:20.475 --> 00:37:23.005 They might post things if they're looking for someone, 744 00:37:23.145 --> 00:37:25.765 but they might also just, you know, know 745 00:37:25.765 --> 00:37:28.485 that they know someone who knows someone who does this 746 00:37:28.545 --> 00:37:31.125 or who's talked to them or who's been networking with them. 747 00:37:31.665 --> 00:37:35.285 And they, those jobs go out to people 748 00:37:35.515 --> 00:37:37.325 because they've already had those, 749 00:37:37.395 --> 00:37:38.965 they already have those connections. 750 00:37:39.765 --> 00:37:41.765 I have a former student who used to work for me 751 00:37:41.945 --> 00:37:43.405 who was doing a lot 752 00:37:43.405 --> 00:37:47.885 of informational interviewing her senior year and, um, 753 00:37:48.145 --> 00:37:49.925 and did informational interviewing 754 00:37:49.925 --> 00:37:52.565 to learn about human capital consulting. 755 00:37:53.065 --> 00:37:56.725 And she actually did so with a company, with some, um, 756 00:37:57.765 --> 00:38:00.285 employees of a company that said they weren't hiring, 757 00:38:00.905 --> 00:38:02.565 but she just wanted to learn and, 758 00:38:02.745 --> 00:38:04.565 and, you know, do those, um, 759 00:38:04.575 --> 00:38:06.645 interviews anyway and learn more. 760 00:38:06.715 --> 00:38:07.845 Well then it turned out, 761 00:38:07.895 --> 00:38:11.645 after further on into that season of hiring, they said, 762 00:38:11.645 --> 00:38:13.125 well, actually we do have an opening. 763 00:38:13.505 --> 00:38:16.085 And they went to the, the, their employees 764 00:38:16.105 --> 00:38:18.685 who were recruiters and said, do you already know somebody? 765 00:38:18.845 --> 00:38:20.805 'cause we actually do need someone now. 766 00:38:21.225 --> 00:38:23.245 And because my former student, 767 00:38:23.605 --> 00:38:26.165 Eva had been doing these informational interviews already, 768 00:38:26.235 --> 00:38:28.645 just for her own benefit, not 769 00:38:28.645 --> 00:38:30.285 because she thought it was gonna lead to anything. 770 00:38:30.905 --> 00:38:32.525 She was the first name that came up 771 00:38:33.175 --> 00:38:34.635 and she ended up getting the job. 772 00:38:35.145 --> 00:38:36.365 So you just never know. 773 00:38:37.005 --> 00:38:40.365 I always say that networking is like planting a lot of seeds 774 00:38:40.365 --> 00:38:42.165 and you don't know which one's gonna grow, right? 775 00:38:42.545 --> 00:38:45.205 But you're just kind of putting yourself out there, trying 776 00:38:45.205 --> 00:38:47.365 to meet people, trying to learn more about them, 777 00:38:47.465 --> 00:38:49.045 and not thinking about it in terms 778 00:38:49.045 --> 00:38:50.165 of what can I get out of it? 779 00:38:50.225 --> 00:38:51.485 But more like, I'm curious, 780 00:38:51.725 --> 00:38:53.165 I wanna learn more about this industry. 781 00:38:53.245 --> 00:38:56.365 I wanna learn more about how people, you know, 782 00:38:57.085 --> 00:38:59.885 people's career journeys and how they got where they are. 783 00:39:01.245 --> 00:39:04.175 Okay, so if we're talking about networking, 784 00:39:04.175 --> 00:39:05.335 how can we expand that network? 785 00:39:05.525 --> 00:39:07.695 Well, you could connect with your professors. 786 00:39:08.105 --> 00:39:09.815 Professors often know people. 787 00:39:10.165 --> 00:39:14.295 They might have, um, you know, work with students who go on 788 00:39:14.295 --> 00:39:16.095 to graduate and work in different fields, 789 00:39:16.315 --> 00:39:17.815 and you never know how that might be helpful. 790 00:39:17.845 --> 00:39:20.095 They also know a lot about different industries. 791 00:39:20.445 --> 00:39:24.095 Informational interviewing that 20 to 30 minute conversation 792 00:39:24.095 --> 00:39:26.735 between you and a professional. LinkedIn. 793 00:39:27.195 --> 00:39:30.215 Um, if you have a LinkedIn account, 794 00:39:30.215 --> 00:39:31.935 there are ways you can connect 795 00:39:31.935 --> 00:39:34.455 with alumni in a career field of interest. 796 00:39:34.475 --> 00:39:35.535 And that's something again, 797 00:39:35.535 --> 00:39:38.655 that a career coach could help you if you're feeling like 798 00:39:38.655 --> 00:39:40.975 you're not, your LinkedIn profile isn't 799 00:39:40.975 --> 00:39:42.015 quite where you want it to be. 800 00:39:42.395 --> 00:39:44.015 And then the student organizations 801 00:39:44.315 --> 00:39:46.055 and professional organizations. 802 00:39:46.315 --> 00:39:48.975 So we talked a little more in depth about student 803 00:39:49.215 --> 00:39:51.255 organizations already, but professional 804 00:39:51.475 --> 00:39:53.175 or professional associations, I mean, 805 00:39:53.175 --> 00:39:54.615 professional associations. 806 00:39:54.915 --> 00:39:57.455 Um, pretty much every career field has 807 00:39:57.455 --> 00:39:58.655 professional associations. 808 00:39:58.755 --> 00:40:02.855 So they're, um, associations where people in that field, 809 00:40:03.515 --> 00:40:04.535 uh, learn from each other. 810 00:40:05.275 --> 00:40:07.855 Um, they, um, have conferences. 811 00:40:08.125 --> 00:40:09.615 They talk about industry trends. 812 00:40:09.615 --> 00:40:11.095 They talk about lots of different things. 813 00:40:11.715 --> 00:40:13.095 And students, like, 814 00:40:13.095 --> 00:40:15.535 once you know a certain field you wanna go into, 815 00:40:16.135 --> 00:40:18.975 students can often join those professionals associations at 816 00:40:19.015 --> 00:40:20.815 a very discounted cost. 817 00:40:20.875 --> 00:40:23.415 And that can be a way to connect with professionals. 818 00:40:24.825 --> 00:40:27.765 So again, networking's the main thing we're doing, 819 00:40:28.185 --> 00:40:29.885 but then also we wanna do some research. 820 00:40:29.905 --> 00:40:33.205 We wanna find out more about what's even possible 821 00:40:33.225 --> 00:40:36.045 and what's out there and what's the latest happening in 822 00:40:36.045 --> 00:40:38.045 different industries and who's hiring 823 00:40:38.225 --> 00:40:39.325 and all those kinds of things. 824 00:40:39.545 --> 00:40:43.285 So, um, official company websites are a great way 825 00:40:43.285 --> 00:40:46.765 to research and learn more about different organizations, 826 00:40:46.865 --> 00:40:50.805 the work they do, their initiatives, um, their mission, 827 00:40:50.805 --> 00:40:54.125 their values, everything that they're about LinkedIn. 828 00:40:54.705 --> 00:40:58.825 Um, you can, um, learn about people, 829 00:40:58.845 --> 00:41:02.505 you can learn about organizations, you can follow different, 830 00:41:02.845 --> 00:41:06.055 uh, proce professional associations 831 00:41:06.055 --> 00:41:08.295 through LinkedIn media sources. 832 00:41:08.835 --> 00:41:12.135 How is a company being represented in the media? Consulting, 833 00:41:12.395 --> 00:41:15.615 um, industry, annual reports, um, lots 834 00:41:15.615 --> 00:41:19.215 of different industries put out annual reports 835 00:41:19.315 --> 00:41:20.855 of what's happening in their field, 836 00:41:20.875 --> 00:41:23.375 and it's good to stay up on those things and to, 837 00:41:23.675 --> 00:41:26.015 and when you do have the opportunity to network, to be able 838 00:41:26.015 --> 00:41:28.095 to ask those questions that show 839 00:41:28.095 --> 00:41:29.415 that you've done some research 840 00:41:29.835 --> 00:41:31.855 and then an informational interview 841 00:41:31.855 --> 00:41:33.175 for the firsthand perspective. 842 00:41:36.265 --> 00:41:39.645 So where do you actually find those jobs? 843 00:41:39.825 --> 00:41:41.965 So now we're down to the applying, which again, 844 00:41:41.965 --> 00:41:44.325 it's only about 10% of our time if we're looking. 845 00:41:44.665 --> 00:41:48.725 So Handshake, you can filter in Handshake, which is the, 846 00:41:48.825 --> 00:41:49.765 if you're not familiar with 847 00:41:49.765 --> 00:41:50.925 Handshake, let me back up a little. 848 00:41:51.305 --> 00:41:54.125 That's the, the career service platform 849 00:41:54.175 --> 00:41:57.165 where you can sign up to meet with a career coach. 850 00:41:57.545 --> 00:42:01.085 You can find out about career events coming up, 851 00:42:01.305 --> 00:42:03.125 and you can look for jobs. 852 00:42:03.305 --> 00:42:05.605 So this could be internships, part-time jobs, 853 00:42:05.605 --> 00:42:08.445 full-time jobs, and you can filter by location, by the type 854 00:42:08.445 --> 00:42:10.765 of industry, different things like that. 855 00:42:11.215 --> 00:42:13.965 Vault, um, vault is on our website. 856 00:42:13.965 --> 00:42:18.305 You can link to it, um, indiana.vault.edu. 857 00:42:18.445 --> 00:42:19.585 I'm pretty sure that's it. 858 00:42:19.805 --> 00:42:24.065 But, um, our Indiana University of Bloomington does have a, 859 00:42:24.245 --> 00:42:28.705 um, they have purchased access to Vault, which is 860 00:42:29.265 --> 00:42:30.785 a way to look for jobs 861 00:42:31.325 --> 00:42:33.305 to learn more about different industries. 862 00:42:33.885 --> 00:42:37.425 And this access is available to all IU Bloomington students. 863 00:42:38.205 --> 00:42:42.915 Um, IU jobs, there might be, if you're looking 864 00:42:42.935 --> 00:42:45.875 for internships, we, there are internships on campus 865 00:42:45.945 --> 00:42:48.235 that you, um, might really fit 866 00:42:48.495 --> 00:42:50.315 and align with what you're looking for. 867 00:42:50.955 --> 00:42:52.435 LinkedIn, which we've talked about 868 00:42:52.435 --> 00:42:55.795 before, official company sites, Chamber of Commerce 869 00:42:55.795 --> 00:42:59.075 for the city from which you, uh, where you plan 870 00:42:59.075 --> 00:43:00.515 to live this coming summer. 871 00:43:00.655 --> 00:43:03.675 You can learn more about the, all the different industries 872 00:43:04.055 --> 00:43:06.035 and companies in that city. 873 00:43:06.255 --> 00:43:08.915 And oftentimes they will have job postings. 874 00:43:09.895 --> 00:43:13.515 Ascend is a, where you can look for opportunities in, in, 875 00:43:14.215 --> 00:43:16.835 in Indiana if you're planning to stay in the state 876 00:43:16.835 --> 00:43:18.035 of Indiana next summer. 877 00:43:18.455 --> 00:43:20.155 And then indeed Glassdoor, 878 00:43:20.155 --> 00:43:21.875 there's some others like that, Monster. 879 00:43:22.455 --> 00:43:25.875 Um, so lots of different ways you could look like that. 880 00:43:26.575 --> 00:43:28.755 And then Interstride. 881 00:43:29.135 --> 00:43:32.235 Um, Interstride is a great resource 882 00:43:32.295 --> 00:43:34.955 for finding internships for international students 883 00:43:35.255 --> 00:43:39.235 and for students who want, um, opportunities to work 884 00:43:39.415 --> 00:43:41.755 or intern in different parts of the world. 885 00:43:42.255 --> 00:43:46.555 Um, and again, IU can is partnered with Interstride, 886 00:43:46.615 --> 00:43:49.475 so you can find some really great information there. 887 00:43:50.395 --> 00:43:53.885 Some other opportunities when it comes to, um, 888 00:43:54.545 --> 00:43:58.365 if you're interested in interning, um, in another part 889 00:43:58.365 --> 00:43:59.805 of the world, um, 890 00:44:00.105 --> 00:44:02.525 or if you are an international student looking 891 00:44:02.865 --> 00:44:03.965 to intern here. 892 00:44:06.095 --> 00:44:10.905 So, um, this is, 893 00:44:11.045 --> 00:44:13.265 uh, the slide that is our, um, 894 00:44:14.545 --> 00:44:16.385 represents the office that I'm from. 895 00:44:16.565 --> 00:44:19.585 Um, again, Career Exploration and Student Employment. 896 00:44:20.245 --> 00:44:24.265 Our website is careerexploration.indiana.edu. 897 00:44:24.805 --> 00:44:29.025 Our email at iucareer@iu.edu. 898 00:44:29.805 --> 00:44:33.725 And our, um, we're on Instagram also, 899 00:44:34.025 --> 00:44:35.605 uh, @IUundergrad. 900 00:44:35.785 --> 00:44:38.525 So we are part of the Undergraduate Education Office. 901 00:44:38.905 --> 00:44:42.525 We also have a really cool, um, podcast called 902 00:44:43.135 --> 00:44:46.685 Major Choices that you can stream anywhere 903 00:44:46.705 --> 00:44:48.045 you stream podcasts, 904 00:44:48.505 --> 00:44:53.125 and, um, all kinds of wonderful information there 905 00:44:53.125 --> 00:44:54.405 that you could take a look at. 906 00:44:55.085 --> 00:44:57.845 I am going to, can I, um, I, I'm going 907 00:44:57.845 --> 00:45:00.605 to just also put my email in the chat here. 908 00:45:00.805 --> 00:45:04.335 I think, um, I'm putting this in the right place 909 00:45:04.335 --> 00:45:05.375 that it's going to everyone. 910 00:45:05.395 --> 00:45:08.375 Is that right, Megan? Okay. 911 00:45:10.115 --> 00:45:14.105 Um, Megan, do you wanna talk about the, the next slide 912 00:45:14.105 --> 00:45:15.345 or do you want me to, I don't, 913 00:45:15.375 --> 00:45:16.385 Yeah, I'm happy to. 914 00:45:16.765 --> 00:45:17.765 So, 915 00:45:18.935 --> 00:45:20.735 Oh, sorry, here we go. 916 00:45:26.615 --> 00:45:29.235 So, just so that everyone is aware, 917 00:45:29.575 --> 00:45:31.995 if you have already applied and been accepted 918 00:45:32.175 --> 00:45:35.755 or have been certified into another school, like let's say 919 00:45:35.825 --> 00:45:38.795 that you decided at the beginning of the sophomore year 920 00:45:38.795 --> 00:45:41.075 that you were gonna move into the economics department, 921 00:45:41.215 --> 00:45:43.875 or you have moved into exercise science, 922 00:45:43.975 --> 00:45:45.235 or you're in the School of Ed 923 00:45:45.255 --> 00:45:47.235 or in the O'Neill School, all 924 00:45:47.235 --> 00:45:50.355 of these different schools across the IU Bloomington campus 925 00:45:50.505 --> 00:45:51.955 have career services centers 926 00:45:51.955 --> 00:45:54.635 that are specialized to support you. 927 00:45:54.735 --> 00:45:57.795 And so I put some of these on here just as an example. 928 00:45:58.135 --> 00:46:01.635 So, and some of them offer programs that are open 929 00:46:01.775 --> 00:46:05.035 for all students, like this electronic credential 930 00:46:05.535 --> 00:46:07.035 for public health majors. 931 00:46:07.225 --> 00:46:08.715 This is something that is available 932 00:46:08.715 --> 00:46:10.155 that all students can sign up for. 933 00:46:10.255 --> 00:46:11.595 You take one 934 00:46:11.595 --> 00:46:15.875 or two courses that are career preparation courses through 935 00:46:16.415 --> 00:46:17.675 the public health area, 936 00:46:18.095 --> 00:46:21.475 and then you also do a series of co-curricular activities. 937 00:46:21.655 --> 00:46:24.475 And when you're done, they actually grant you an electronic 938 00:46:24.475 --> 00:46:26.235 credential for having done that work. 939 00:46:26.285 --> 00:46:29.235 There are many, many different career preparation classes 940 00:46:29.825 --> 00:46:31.595 that are available across the campus, 941 00:46:31.855 --> 00:46:34.475 and I would encourage you to look into those, 942 00:46:34.775 --> 00:46:36.035 ask your academic advisor, 943 00:46:36.215 --> 00:46:37.835 is there a career preparation class 944 00:46:38.175 --> 00:46:39.715 for my particular major program 945 00:46:40.215 --> 00:46:42.195 or for my school that I can look into? 946 00:46:42.345 --> 00:46:44.715 Because sometimes it's not enough to just know 947 00:46:44.715 --> 00:46:45.995 that you need to be doing these things. 948 00:46:46.305 --> 00:46:48.435 Sometimes you need to have a very 949 00:46:48.955 --> 00:46:51.955 structured environment within which to kind of work 950 00:46:51.955 --> 00:46:54.315 through this and to do these types of things. 951 00:46:54.655 --> 00:46:56.355 And so if you know that about yourself, 952 00:46:56.555 --> 00:46:59.275 a career preparation class is a great way to do that. 953 00:46:59.775 --> 00:47:01.755 So I encourage you to check some of these out. 954 00:47:01.945 --> 00:47:03.435 Typically, any of the programs 955 00:47:03.435 --> 00:47:04.915 that are offered on Handshake, 956 00:47:04.915 --> 00:47:07.315 when you go into career center events 957 00:47:08.175 --> 00:47:10.955 and look at the events that are listed, they will be open 958 00:47:11.015 --> 00:47:14.275 for any student at IU Bloomington to participate in. 959 00:47:14.375 --> 00:47:17.355 So lots of really great opportunities there 960 00:47:17.455 --> 00:47:20.395 to get a little bit more exposure or to simply go 961 00:47:20.395 --> 00:47:21.675 and walk through a career fair 962 00:47:21.935 --> 00:47:23.675 and meet some of the employers that are there. 963 00:47:23.855 --> 00:47:26.435 So if you're interested in those opportunities, 964 00:47:26.715 --> 00:47:28.555 I just wanted to call your attention to the fact 965 00:47:28.625 --> 00:47:31.085 that there are many, many different career centers across 966 00:47:31.105 --> 00:47:32.405 the IU Bloomington campus. 967 00:47:38.535 --> 00:47:41.045 Great. Lisa, I think you're on mute, 968 00:47:41.225 --> 00:47:43.045 and so we can't hear you right now. 969 00:47:43.185 --> 00:47:44.445 Oh, thank you. 970 00:47:45.145 --> 00:47:49.685 Um, I also wanted to, um, put into the chat 971 00:47:50.585 --> 00:47:55.445 our informational interview guide that I thought, 972 00:47:55.905 --> 00:47:59.645 um, might be helpful if anybody's interested 973 00:47:59.665 --> 00:48:00.885 in learning more about that. 974 00:48:01.065 --> 00:48:03.765 And again, a career coach could help you connect 975 00:48:03.765 --> 00:48:06.765 with someone in industry that you're hoping to interview, 976 00:48:06.945 --> 00:48:10.205 or they could help you find someone 977 00:48:11.385 --> 00:48:14.605 on LinkedIn who's an IU alum or someone else. 978 00:48:14.945 --> 00:48:16.885 If you have a LinkedIn account. 979 00:48:17.145 --> 00:48:18.445 If you don't have a LinkedIn account, 980 00:48:18.445 --> 00:48:22.605 they could also help you, um, with, um, you know, 981 00:48:22.815 --> 00:48:25.365 developing that LinkedIn account and, and, 982 00:48:25.385 --> 00:48:28.005 and feeling like you're ready to share that with others. 983 00:48:29.745 --> 00:48:32.085 Um, I think this is our last slide, Megan. 984 00:48:32.145 --> 00:48:35.925 So I don't know if we have any questions, um, beyond 985 00:48:37.395 --> 00:48:38.395 This. I 986 00:48:38.395 --> 00:48:41.285 One question that I've already answered as we went 987 00:48:41.285 --> 00:48:44.085 through the presentation, but if you have other questions 988 00:48:44.085 --> 00:48:45.525 and you want to put those into the Q&A 989 00:48:45.525 --> 00:48:47.445 we certainly have some time 990 00:48:47.445 --> 00:48:49.445 to answer those if you would like. 991 00:48:49.945 --> 00:48:52.285 If not, you're welcome to go about your day, 992 00:48:52.435 --> 00:48:54.605 have a wonderful, restorative break. 993 00:48:54.975 --> 00:48:57.565 We'll be offering another session tomorrow at 994 00:48:57.565 --> 00:48:59.245 11 a.m. Eastern time. 995 00:48:59.665 --> 00:49:03.125 And I did put the link to sign up for that into the chat 996 00:49:03.225 --> 00:49:05.525 as well, so that you could access that if you're free. 997 00:49:05.585 --> 00:49:09.285 And if you want to join us, Lisa will be doing a, um, 998 00:49:09.595 --> 00:49:11.085 session that talks about how 999 00:49:11.085 --> 00:49:12.565 to polish up your LinkedIn profile. 1000 00:49:12.905 --> 00:49:16.365 So, uh, there's a question that just came in from the Q&A 1001 00:49:16.365 --> 00:49:19.005 Lisa, and it's, what are the best questions 1002 00:49:19.065 --> 00:49:22.285 to ask someone during an informational interview? 1003 00:49:23.885 --> 00:49:25.105 Oh, wonderful. Yes. 1004 00:49:25.285 --> 00:49:28.145 Um, so the, the link that I just put in there 1005 00:49:28.165 --> 00:49:31.065 for the informational interview, it does have, um, a, 1006 00:49:31.465 --> 00:49:33.145 a several questions in there. 1007 00:49:33.245 --> 00:49:35.905 So that, um, has an overview of, of 1008 00:49:35.935 --> 00:49:38.545 what is an informational interview, how to prepare ahead 1009 00:49:38.545 --> 00:49:40.145 of time, questions to ask, 1010 00:49:40.805 --> 00:49:43.425 and then also, um, you know, 1011 00:49:43.425 --> 00:49:45.185 you always wanna write a thank you note afterwards 1012 00:49:45.425 --> 00:49:47.145 'cause you always wanna thank people for their time. 1013 00:49:47.765 --> 00:49:50.705 Um, so the, that's the part of that guide. 1014 00:49:50.885 --> 00:49:54.985 But specific questions I would say, again, depends on 1015 00:49:54.985 --> 00:49:56.145 what, what your goal is. 1016 00:49:56.305 --> 00:49:58.945 I guess I always come back to that thinking, you know, what, 1017 00:49:58.945 --> 00:50:00.065 what am I hoping to get out of this? 1018 00:50:00.065 --> 00:50:01.505 If you're wanting to learn more about 1019 00:50:02.095 --> 00:50:05.185 what is this career field really like, what's it really like 1020 00:50:05.185 --> 00:50:06.345 to do this kind of work? 1021 00:50:06.855 --> 00:50:08.625 Some great questions for that are, you know, 1022 00:50:08.625 --> 00:50:11.185 tell me about a typical day or a typical week. 1023 00:50:11.655 --> 00:50:13.025 What do you love about your job? 1024 00:50:13.095 --> 00:50:14.385 What do you find challenging? 1025 00:50:14.385 --> 00:50:17.065 Because every job has some challenging things, 1026 00:50:17.065 --> 00:50:18.105 even when we love our jobs. 1027 00:50:18.325 --> 00:50:20.065 Um, sometimes there's some challenging parts. 1028 00:50:20.165 --> 00:50:22.705 So, you know, just kind of getting a sense of what's it, 1029 00:50:22.705 --> 00:50:25.065 what is it like, what do you wish you had known 1030 00:50:25.245 --> 00:50:26.745 before you went into the field? 1031 00:50:27.305 --> 00:50:30.085 Um, and then you can also, maybe part of your goal is 1032 00:50:30.105 --> 00:50:31.445 to like, how do I get there? 1033 00:50:31.465 --> 00:50:34.925 You know, like, so under, you can ask someone, you know, 1034 00:50:34.925 --> 00:50:37.285 tell me about your career journey, how you got where you are 1035 00:50:37.945 --> 00:50:40.525 so that you have a better sense of like, what did it take, 1036 00:50:40.525 --> 00:50:41.525 what were the steps they took? 1037 00:50:42.065 --> 00:50:44.125 And then maybe they took a roundabout way. 1038 00:50:44.225 --> 00:50:46.445 So you can always ask them, you know, what do you, 1039 00:50:47.155 --> 00:50:48.485 what would you recommend to somebody 1040 00:50:48.485 --> 00:50:49.645 that wants to go into this field? 1041 00:50:49.645 --> 00:50:51.765 Maybe there was a more direct way that they didn't take 1042 00:50:51.765 --> 00:50:53.605 that they would, they would love to share with you. 1043 00:50:53.985 --> 00:50:55.805 Or maybe you're wondering, how do I get there? 1044 00:50:55.805 --> 00:50:57.045 And you could ask something like, 1045 00:50:57.195 --> 00:50:59.885 what does your HR department look for in a, 1046 00:51:00.185 --> 00:51:01.805 in an intern candidate? 1047 00:51:01.805 --> 00:51:04.725 What are, you know, what should I be trying to work on? 1048 00:51:04.795 --> 00:51:06.245 What do you wish you had done more 1049 00:51:06.245 --> 00:51:08.045 of when you were in college? 1050 00:51:08.465 --> 00:51:12.625 Um, or in, in preparation for this work? 1051 00:51:13.115 --> 00:51:15.305 We've got a couple more questions that have come in. 1052 00:51:15.565 --> 00:51:17.265 Uh, one is about professionalism. 1053 00:51:17.685 --> 00:51:20.025 So where do we find the correct way 1054 00:51:20.205 --> 00:51:22.225 and format to professionally email 1055 00:51:22.285 --> 00:51:24.505 or text people that you want to reach out to? 1056 00:51:26.265 --> 00:51:30.675 Okay, so, um, with an email, I would say it'd be, 1057 00:51:30.805 --> 00:51:33.035 you'd want to email probably more than text, 1058 00:51:33.055 --> 00:51:34.875 but I don't know if you happen to have their phone number. 1059 00:51:34.885 --> 00:51:37.635 Maybe this is some a, a connection to you in another way. 1060 00:51:37.955 --> 00:51:41.395 I think it's important to introduce yourself, um, explain 1061 00:51:41.395 --> 00:51:42.995 that you were an IU student 1062 00:51:43.415 --> 00:51:46.915 and that you have an interest in a field that's con, 1063 00:51:46.935 --> 00:51:48.195 you know, connected to them. 1064 00:51:48.855 --> 00:51:51.955 Um, you may, this may be somebody who was an IU alum, 1065 00:51:52.095 --> 00:51:53.955 so you know, saying that you're an IU student 1066 00:51:54.015 --> 00:51:56.275 and you saw that they were an IU alum, you know, finding 1067 00:51:56.275 --> 00:51:57.395 that connection somehow. 1068 00:51:57.655 --> 00:52:00.955 So whether it's IU, whether it's, you know, 1069 00:52:01.145 --> 00:52:04.435 your interest in the field that they're in, in, um, 1070 00:52:04.535 --> 00:52:08.315 and you know, then you wanna ask them, you know, I, 1071 00:52:08.475 --> 00:52:11.275 I would love to, you know, if you happen, if you happen 1072 00:52:11.275 --> 00:52:12.915 to have 20 to 30 minutes 1073 00:52:13.465 --> 00:52:15.995 that I could interview you about your work, 1074 00:52:16.115 --> 00:52:17.475 I would love to learn more. 1075 00:52:18.035 --> 00:52:19.835 I think it's just really important that you 1076 00:52:20.415 --> 00:52:24.635 go into those interactions with a sense of curiosity, um, 1077 00:52:25.175 --> 00:52:27.915 and wanting to learn more about what they do. 1078 00:52:28.455 --> 00:52:29.915 Um, again, you know, 1079 00:52:29.915 --> 00:52:31.635 it might be really different than what you think it is. 1080 00:52:31.655 --> 00:52:33.115 So I think that can be really, really helpful. 1081 00:52:33.455 --> 00:52:36.195 But, you know, I think more than thinking like, 1082 00:52:36.195 --> 00:52:37.235 what am I gonna get out of this? 1083 00:52:37.335 --> 00:52:39.675 Or like, how can I get an internship or a job? 1084 00:52:39.855 --> 00:52:42.595 But just kind of more like, what, um, 1085 00:52:43.175 --> 00:52:44.235 you know, what can I learn? 1086 00:52:44.335 --> 00:52:45.875 You know? Would you be willing to share? 1087 00:52:46.215 --> 00:52:49.515 And if people have time, I mean, I, I will say a lot 1088 00:52:49.515 --> 00:52:54.295 of times, um, you know, I, I, um, I adjunct, um, for Kelley, 1089 00:52:54.655 --> 00:52:57.255 I teach, uh, Compass One for Kelley, and, 1090 00:52:57.555 --> 00:52:59.335 and we have an assignment 1091 00:52:59.395 --> 00:53:01.415 of doing an in informational interview. 1092 00:53:01.915 --> 00:53:04.335 And I know I always warn my students, a lot 1093 00:53:04.335 --> 00:53:05.335 of times people are really busy. 1094 00:53:05.435 --> 00:53:08.895 So definitely make sure you give them plenty of time, um, 1095 00:53:09.235 --> 00:53:10.775 to, you know, if you're wanting to meet with them 1096 00:53:11.395 --> 00:53:13.575 and not, like, I'm hoping you can meet in two days, 1097 00:53:13.795 --> 00:53:16.415 but more maybe, maybe like two weeks or something like that. 1098 00:53:16.555 --> 00:53:19.015 Um, and, and give them a range of days 1099 00:53:19.015 --> 00:53:20.415 and times that you could meet 1100 00:53:21.155 --> 00:53:23.935 and, um, you know, take it from there. 1101 00:53:24.365 --> 00:53:27.445 Also, I would reach out to more than one person if possible. 1102 00:53:27.905 --> 00:53:29.685 And, and don't take it personally if 1103 00:53:29.965 --> 00:53:31.005 somebody doesn't get back to you. 1104 00:53:31.185 --> 00:53:34.045 Um, you never know what's happening for somebody. 1105 00:53:34.185 --> 00:53:36.125 But, um, you know, you know, on, 1106 00:53:36.425 --> 00:53:38.765 on LinkedIn I usually tell students, if you reach out 1107 00:53:38.765 --> 00:53:40.485 to 10 people, if you hear back from two, 1108 00:53:40.875 --> 00:53:42.685 then I think you're doing really great. 1109 00:53:43.025 --> 00:53:46.565 So, um, if you have a connection, if somebody, 1110 00:53:46.565 --> 00:53:49.645 like sometimes just, you know, letting people, the, the, 1111 00:53:49.905 --> 00:53:52.485 the older adults in your life know that you're looking 1112 00:53:52.505 --> 00:53:54.805 for somebody in a, in a certain field, you never know 1113 00:53:54.825 --> 00:53:56.525 who might know somebody who knows somebody. 1114 00:53:56.705 --> 00:53:59.645 So, um, I think those connections can be really helpful too. 1115 00:54:00.875 --> 00:54:03.695 I'm also gonna drop a link into 1116 00:54:04.255 --> 00:54:07.535 a suggested LinkedIn Learning, uh, seminar 1117 00:54:07.635 --> 00:54:09.175 that's about professional writing 1118 00:54:09.355 --> 00:54:11.015 and writing emails in particular 1119 00:54:11.085 --> 00:54:13.095 that might be really helpful. And you could search 1120 00:54:13.095 --> 00:54:16.095 through LinkedIn Learning to find some other things 1121 00:54:16.095 --> 00:54:17.735 that would talk specifically about this 1122 00:54:17.735 --> 00:54:19.495 that might be really helpful to listen to. 1123 00:54:19.875 --> 00:54:23.415 So we had a question come in, how hard is it 1124 00:54:23.415 --> 00:54:25.815 to find an internship in your first year? 1125 00:54:26.275 --> 00:54:27.415 And I know Lisa, you 1126 00:54:27.415 --> 00:54:28.455 and I have talked about this, 1127 00:54:28.615 --> 00:54:31.175 I have very strong feelings about the internship 1128 00:54:31.305 --> 00:54:32.415 after the first year. 1129 00:54:32.715 --> 00:54:36.095 Mm-hmm. I think students should rest, go home, 1130 00:54:36.515 --> 00:54:39.215 get a part-time job to build those skills, right? 1131 00:54:39.755 --> 00:54:41.135 But then take a breather, right? 1132 00:54:41.375 --> 00:54:42.895 'cause you're gonna have plenty of time the rest 1133 00:54:42.915 --> 00:54:44.295 of your life to work. 1134 00:54:44.515 --> 00:54:48.095 So, but that said, sometimes there are some folks 1135 00:54:48.115 --> 00:54:49.975 who are super excited about trying to get 1136 00:54:49.975 --> 00:54:51.335 that internship in the first year. 1137 00:54:51.555 --> 00:54:53.095 And how tough is that for folks? 1138 00:54:55.125 --> 00:54:58.845 I, I think getting, so a lot of internships, um, 1139 00:54:59.515 --> 00:55:02.285 that we think of, like those really formal internship 1140 00:55:02.485 --> 00:55:05.165 programs are just going to be for juniors. 1141 00:55:05.345 --> 00:55:07.765 So those aren't gonna be possible to get, 1142 00:55:07.825 --> 00:55:10.165 but you could get some kind of experience 1143 00:55:10.235 --> 00:55:12.765 that you could use as an internship. 1144 00:55:13.425 --> 00:55:15.805 Um, just, you know, you, you never know. 1145 00:55:15.805 --> 00:55:17.245 Like, and, 1146 00:55:17.245 --> 00:55:18.245 and again, like kind 1147 00:55:18.245 --> 00:55:19.885 of putting those different pieces together, 1148 00:55:20.325 --> 00:55:22.325 remember the making your own soup kind of thing. 1149 00:55:22.465 --> 00:55:25.645 So I think if you're, if you are on it 1150 00:55:25.705 --> 00:55:30.605 and you're willing to, um, you know, do what it, you know, 1151 00:55:31.165 --> 00:55:32.885 I shouldn't say do what it takes, but do willing 1152 00:55:32.885 --> 00:55:37.725 to reach out to, um, people to do Forage, you know, 1153 00:55:37.825 --> 00:55:40.605 to LinkedIn, do the different things 1154 00:55:40.635 --> 00:55:42.965 that might help you in different ways. 1155 00:55:43.325 --> 00:55:45.325 I think you can find some kind of experience 1156 00:55:45.325 --> 00:55:46.485 that you'll find meaningful 1157 00:55:46.795 --> 00:55:48.685 that will give you an opportunity to network, 1158 00:55:48.995 --> 00:55:50.765 that will give you an opportunity to build skill 1159 00:55:50.865 --> 00:55:53.245 and to learn more about an industry. 1160 00:55:53.785 --> 00:55:57.245 So between like informational interviewing, doing Forage, 1161 00:55:57.405 --> 00:56:00.405 I mean, I think those things alone, you're going 1162 00:56:00.405 --> 00:56:02.365 to get some really great experiences, 1163 00:56:02.505 --> 00:56:04.525 but I think people end up getting some kind. 1164 00:56:04.765 --> 00:56:07.005 I mean, you could, you know, if you happen to be in a town 1165 00:56:07.005 --> 00:56:08.845 where there's, you know, a local business owner 1166 00:56:08.845 --> 00:56:11.605 and you say, Hey, can I come do this work for you? 1167 00:56:11.905 --> 00:56:13.285 And they say, sure. 1168 00:56:13.445 --> 00:56:15.445 I mean, you can call it an internship, right? 1169 00:56:15.685 --> 00:56:18.285 I mean, it, it, it, that could be your internship. 1170 00:56:19.605 --> 00:56:21.605 I think too, it's also helpful to know 1171 00:56:21.605 --> 00:56:23.165 that when you're in Handshake 1172 00:56:23.265 --> 00:56:25.245 and you're doing the search in the jobs area 1173 00:56:25.345 --> 00:56:28.525 for internships, it will typically say down at the bottom 1174 00:56:29.035 --> 00:56:31.645 what year they are looking for mm-hmm. 1175 00:56:31.725 --> 00:56:33.885 In terms of sophomore, junior, seniors. Mm-hmm. 1176 00:56:33.965 --> 00:56:36.445 And sometimes sophomore, uh, 1177 00:56:36.555 --> 00:56:39.645 immersion programs are a possibility to apply for where 1178 00:56:40.285 --> 00:56:43.565 a company maybe has only a week long experience in the 1179 00:56:43.565 --> 00:56:46.245 summer where they will invite candidates in to come 1180 00:56:46.245 --> 00:56:48.685 and do a job shadow type experience. 1181 00:56:48.705 --> 00:56:50.765 And so you can look for those kinds of programs 1182 00:56:50.825 --> 00:56:53.605 as well from some of the larger companies also, 1183 00:56:53.735 --> 00:56:54.735 Right? Those are, those 1184 00:56:54.735 --> 00:56:56.685 are great opportunities to just kind 1185 00:56:56.685 --> 00:56:59.165 of get a sense of what is a company like, 1186 00:56:59.465 --> 00:57:01.405 and yeah, definitely. 1187 00:57:01.725 --> 00:57:03.725 Absolutely. Yeah. And at least I have a question, 1188 00:57:03.945 --> 00:57:05.285 how could I reach out to a company 1189 00:57:05.305 --> 00:57:07.845 or individual who does not have an internship available 1190 00:57:07.945 --> 00:57:10.085 or posted, but they might be interested 1191 00:57:10.545 --> 00:57:11.685 if I reached out to them. 1192 00:57:13.325 --> 00:57:14.855 Okay. Yeah, so like you're saying the, 1193 00:57:14.965 --> 00:57:16.015 like I was saying, reach out. 1194 00:57:16.075 --> 00:57:20.745 So I mean, I would let, yeah, I would, 1195 00:57:20.845 --> 00:57:22.545 you know, again, write up like, 1196 00:57:22.775 --> 00:57:24.585 they would call it like a letter of intent 1197 00:57:24.585 --> 00:57:27.305 or a letter of application as opposed to a cover letter. 1198 00:57:27.445 --> 00:57:30.505 So this, um, again, a career coach can help you 1199 00:57:30.505 --> 00:57:32.745 with this also 'cause it's a little more involved than just 1200 00:57:33.045 --> 00:57:34.345 on this session right now. 1201 00:57:34.685 --> 00:57:38.185 But you would wanna reach out, let them know, you know, you, 1202 00:57:38.445 --> 00:57:41.185 the first paragraph of a letter like that is usually kind 1203 00:57:41.185 --> 00:57:44.625 of, um, buttering them up a little that if you know 1204 00:57:44.625 --> 00:57:46.425 that term that, so you're kind of, you know, 1205 00:57:46.425 --> 00:57:50.945 telling them why you, um, why you, you, you know, 1206 00:57:50.945 --> 00:57:52.305 what you think of their company that you, 1207 00:57:52.305 --> 00:57:56.185 that you appreciate their mission values, that these kinds 1208 00:57:56.425 --> 00:57:58.985 of things, like what you like about their company 1209 00:57:59.445 --> 00:58:02.305 and why you think that you might be a good fit there. 1210 00:58:02.325 --> 00:58:03.985 That's kind of the first paragraph. 1211 00:58:04.405 --> 00:58:06.385 And then you're going to go into some of the things 1212 00:58:06.385 --> 00:58:09.865 that you're, um, you know, it, it's always more about like 1213 00:58:09.865 --> 00:58:12.305 what you can do for them, not like what they can do for you. 1214 00:58:12.605 --> 00:58:16.305 So like, you know, that you would love that you, you know, 1215 00:58:16.375 --> 00:58:17.785 want to gain experience in this 1216 00:58:17.785 --> 00:58:19.985 or that, like that you have some skills 1217 00:58:20.085 --> 00:58:22.265 and you're hoping to apply them in different ways. 1218 00:58:22.405 --> 00:58:24.425 So if you can think of those kinds of things 1219 00:58:24.425 --> 00:58:27.265 that you feel like you could do for the company, um, 1220 00:58:27.325 --> 00:58:30.145 or the organization, um, you know, kind 1221 00:58:30.145 --> 00:58:33.705 of letting them know these are the areas that I, um, 1222 00:58:33.885 --> 00:58:36.545 am developing in and I have some experience 1223 00:58:36.545 --> 00:58:39.385 and hope to develop and demonstrate more in. 1224 00:58:40.185 --> 00:58:43.205 And then, you know, then the last paragraph is just, I hope 1225 00:58:43.205 --> 00:58:44.245 that we can connect 1226 00:58:44.345 --> 00:58:49.045 and you know, that kind of, um, asking for some time to meet 1227 00:58:49.045 --> 00:58:51.245 with them and share more about what you would hope 1228 00:58:51.245 --> 00:58:53.005 to be able to do for them. 1229 00:58:53.665 --> 00:58:57.055 Um, that, that's kind of how you would end it. 1230 00:58:57.055 --> 00:58:58.295 That's kind of, but again, 1231 00:58:58.435 --> 00:59:00.655 we could talk in more detail about 1232 00:59:01.445 --> 00:59:02.495 what that might look like. 1233 00:59:03.525 --> 00:59:06.265 Um, you know, writing that out. Exactly. So. 1234 00:59:07.255 --> 00:59:09.905 Well, Lisa, I just wanted to thank you so much 1235 00:59:10.005 --> 00:59:13.985 for your time today and I really appreciate, uh, the energy 1236 00:59:14.005 --> 00:59:15.825 and the effort and I love the questions. 1237 00:59:15.845 --> 00:59:16.905 So thank you all so much. 1238 00:59:17.315 --> 00:59:19.945 We're gonna go ahead and close, uh, for today's session. 1239 00:59:20.125 --> 00:59:23.365 But again, we'll be back at 11 o'clock tomorrow at 1240 00:59:23.365 --> 00:59:25.765 Bloomington time to share more information 1241 00:59:25.765 --> 00:59:28.165 with you about updating and polishing up your resume 1242 00:59:28.265 --> 00:59:29.405 and your LinkedIn profile. 1243 00:59:29.665 --> 00:59:33.805 So if you, uh, wanna register for that program, you can do 1244 00:59:33.805 --> 00:59:34.965 so from the email that you used 1245 00:59:34.965 --> 00:59:36.125 to register for this program. 1246 00:59:36.345 --> 00:59:40.005 So thanks so much and enjoy your break. Thank 1247 00:59:40.005 --> 00:59:41.045 You so much everyone.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.555 --> 00:00:03.285 Well, hello. 2 00:00:03.815 --> 00:00:07.285 Thank you all so much for choosing to be here today. 3 00:00:07.785 --> 00:00:09.285 Um, if you have the ability, 4 00:00:09.335 --> 00:00:10.765 could you give me the thumbs up? 5 00:00:10.825 --> 00:00:13.405 If you can hear me right now, I wanna make sure 6 00:00:13.435 --> 00:00:15.445 that I'm communicating really clearly 7 00:00:15.445 --> 00:00:17.005 with everyone while we're here today. 8 00:00:17.135 --> 00:00:20.525 Thank you, Felix. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. 9 00:00:20.865 --> 00:00:22.405 So that lets me know 10 00:00:22.405 --> 00:00:24.925 that we're doing the things we're supposed to. 11 00:00:24.925 --> 00:00:27.805 Thank you so much. Appreciate that. That's awesome. 12 00:00:28.785 --> 00:00:30.045 My name is Megan Ray 13 00:00:30.265 --> 00:00:33.245 and I am the director of Kelley Campus Partnerships. 14 00:00:33.345 --> 00:00:36.405 And I am super excited about the opportunity we have today 15 00:00:37.105 --> 00:00:41.165 to give you some incredible information about programs in 16 00:00:41.385 --> 00:00:43.965 the College of Arts and Sciences here at IU. 17 00:00:44.665 --> 00:00:48.285 And as a student who is a proud grad of the College of Arts 18 00:00:48.285 --> 00:00:51.245 and Sciences myself, I love the kinds of opportunities 19 00:00:51.245 --> 00:00:52.725 that are available for students here. 20 00:00:52.945 --> 00:00:56.205 And I'm super excited that my colleague Isiah Davis, 21 00:00:56.495 --> 00:00:58.645 who's the associate director of recruiting, engagement 22 00:00:58.645 --> 00:01:00.045 and college access, will be able 23 00:01:00.045 --> 00:01:01.325 to talk with you all a little bit. 24 00:01:02.275 --> 00:01:05.005 This is a tough time to be thinking about pivoting 25 00:01:05.005 --> 00:01:08.245 because we all know that students start classes on Monday, 26 00:01:08.385 --> 00:01:09.885 and it's, you're trying to figure out, okay, 27 00:01:09.885 --> 00:01:11.805 what makes sense for me and what doesn't make sense? 28 00:01:12.265 --> 00:01:14.205 And so what my goal is today 29 00:01:14.705 --> 00:01:17.005 and welcoming these amazing professionals 30 00:01:17.185 --> 00:01:20.125 and current students into the conversation is just 31 00:01:20.125 --> 00:01:22.645 to give you some ideas, some ideas 32 00:01:22.785 --> 00:01:26.005 and some inspiration about things that you might be able 33 00:01:26.005 --> 00:01:28.685 to do and other degree programs at IU Bloomington 34 00:01:28.785 --> 00:01:31.205 to still get you to exactly the same career 35 00:01:31.275 --> 00:01:33.445 that you wanted right from the very beginning. 36 00:01:33.755 --> 00:01:36.165 Because one of the things that we know is 37 00:01:36.165 --> 00:01:39.405 that the skill development, the experiences, all 38 00:01:39.405 --> 00:01:40.725 of those things can combine 39 00:01:40.745 --> 00:01:43.245 and that there's no magic measure that leads 40 00:01:43.265 --> 00:01:45.245 to precisely a specific career. 41 00:01:45.635 --> 00:01:46.885 Like this is gonna be something 42 00:01:46.885 --> 00:01:48.805 that I think you're gonna find throughout your life, 43 00:01:48.835 --> 00:01:52.365 that you may believe that there is a predetermined path 44 00:01:52.365 --> 00:01:54.285 that you have to take in order to do something, 45 00:01:54.345 --> 00:01:56.005 but that's just not the case. 46 00:01:56.425 --> 00:01:58.725 So we're gonna talk a little bit more about that 47 00:01:59.145 --> 00:02:00.285 as we go through this process. 48 00:02:00.665 --> 00:02:02.885 I'd like to have, uh, Isiah 49 00:02:03.305 --> 00:02:06.165 and, uh, the rest of my colleagues introduce themselves. 50 00:02:06.255 --> 00:02:08.125 We'll go Isiah and then Ashley, 51 00:02:08.225 --> 00:02:11.685 and then Alexander, um, Will and then Chris. 52 00:02:11.865 --> 00:02:15.125 And then I'll invite them while Isiah then takes it away 53 00:02:15.125 --> 00:02:18.485 and is presenting to close their screens if they'd like 54 00:02:18.525 --> 00:02:19.565 a little downtime. 55 00:02:20.225 --> 00:02:23.205 We are gonna take questions in the Q&A today, 56 00:02:23.745 --> 00:02:25.565 and we will also have the opportunity 57 00:02:25.655 --> 00:02:29.365 after Isiah finishes a very brief set of comments for you 58 00:02:29.605 --> 00:02:32.325 to pop into breakout rooms to speak 59 00:02:32.325 --> 00:02:34.685 with our professional academic advising colleagues 60 00:02:34.685 --> 00:02:35.765 that we have here today. 61 00:02:36.145 --> 00:02:38.525 And in order to access them, you just simply need 62 00:02:38.545 --> 00:02:40.005 to post in the Q&A 63 00:02:40.005 --> 00:02:42.365 that you'd like to talk with an academic advisor, 64 00:02:42.625 --> 00:02:44.005 and we'll continue on with the panel. 65 00:02:44.185 --> 00:02:46.245 So thank you so much for being here. 66 00:02:46.345 --> 00:02:49.325 And Isiah, I'm gonna have you take it away. Okay. 67 00:02:50.015 --> 00:02:52.645 Hello everyone. Uh, once again, my name's Isiah Davis. 68 00:02:52.825 --> 00:02:55.245 I'm the associate director for recruitment, uh, 69 00:02:55.605 --> 00:02:57.165 focusing on college access and engagement. 70 00:02:57.605 --> 00:03:00.245 A lot in my role is I help support our students, um, 71 00:03:00.305 --> 00:03:03.965 coming in, uh, prospective transfer students, um, students 72 00:03:04.025 --> 00:03:05.685 who need just additional assistance 73 00:03:05.785 --> 00:03:09.005 and, um, navigating what, um, is IU. 74 00:03:09.145 --> 00:03:12.645 And so I'll pass it on to, uh, will to introduce himself. 75 00:03:15.255 --> 00:03:18.715 It is so nice to meet everyone today. I am Will Smith. 76 00:03:18.815 --> 00:03:21.395 I'm the senior associate director of advising in the College 77 00:03:21.395 --> 00:03:22.675 of Arts and Sciences. 78 00:03:23.495 --> 00:03:28.235 And, um, I've been in advising at IU Bloomington since 2010, 79 00:03:28.655 --> 00:03:30.195 and I've worked with a number of departments 80 00:03:30.195 --> 00:03:32.235 and programs over my time, as well 81 00:03:32.235 --> 00:03:33.715 as sort of the college as a whole. 82 00:03:34.135 --> 00:03:36.075 And I'm excited to be here to help you today. 83 00:03:39.125 --> 00:03:40.385 And then maybe Ashley. 84 00:03:43.045 --> 00:03:44.265 Hey everyone, I'm Ashley. 85 00:03:44.565 --> 00:03:46.905 I'm a senior and I'm studying organizational 86 00:03:47.045 --> 00:03:50.305 and business psychology with a minor in HR management 87 00:03:50.305 --> 00:03:51.425 through the School of O'Neill. 88 00:03:51.765 --> 00:03:55.145 And I'm excited to get to talk to you guys today. Uh, Alex? 89 00:03:57.055 --> 00:03:58.745 Yeah, so I'm Alexander. 90 00:03:59.125 --> 00:04:01.145 Um, I'm a sophomore studying biotech 91 00:04:02.045 --> 00:04:04.025 and I have a minor in healthcare management 92 00:04:04.025 --> 00:04:05.825 and policy through SPEA also. 93 00:04:06.965 --> 00:04:10.945 Um, and yeah, great to meet all of you, Chris, 94 00:04:11.005 --> 00:04:12.265 if you wanna finish it off. 95 00:04:14.175 --> 00:04:16.085 Thank you. Thank you. Welcome everybody. 96 00:04:16.105 --> 00:04:18.805 My name's Chris Klein. I am an academic advisor in the 97 00:04:18.805 --> 00:04:19.925 College of Arts and Sciences. 98 00:04:20.245 --> 00:04:23.805 I advise specifically for economics, mathematics, 99 00:04:24.285 --> 00:04:26.885 statistics, animal behavior, astronomy and physics. 100 00:04:27.665 --> 00:04:29.045 Um, but happy 101 00:04:29.045 --> 00:04:31.205 to chat about really whatever you wanna chat about. 102 00:04:31.205 --> 00:04:32.845 Other majors, just other questions. 103 00:04:33.105 --> 00:04:35.125 Uh, advisors are fountains of knowledge. 104 00:04:35.125 --> 00:04:37.005 We're here to help you guys, so happy to be here. 105 00:04:38.295 --> 00:04:40.065 Okay, thank you all. 106 00:04:40.125 --> 00:04:41.625 And let's get started 107 00:04:41.685 --> 00:04:44.225 and let's talk about, uh, what the College of Arts 108 00:04:44.225 --> 00:04:45.425 and Sciences actually is. 109 00:04:46.005 --> 00:04:48.025 So the college is the oldest 110 00:04:48.205 --> 00:04:50.385 and largest academic unit here on campus. 111 00:04:50.605 --> 00:04:52.465 Uh, we offer more than 80 majors 112 00:04:52.465 --> 00:04:54.225 and over 80 languages, as well 113 00:04:54.225 --> 00:04:57.105 as over more than 140 minors and certificates. 114 00:04:57.565 --> 00:04:59.105 Um, I believe that size matters 115 00:04:59.105 --> 00:05:01.745 because it creates the, uh, it creates flexibility. 116 00:05:02.215 --> 00:05:03.665 That flexibility is important, 117 00:05:03.665 --> 00:05:04.905 especially in moments like this, 118 00:05:04.905 --> 00:05:08.385 because it allows you to build intentional pathways into 119 00:05:08.405 --> 00:05:10.665 so many different careers, including business. 120 00:05:11.285 --> 00:05:13.105 Um, rather than narrowing your options, 121 00:05:13.165 --> 00:05:15.745 the college is designed to help you adapt and pivot 122 00:05:16.405 --> 00:05:17.665 and align your career 123 00:05:17.725 --> 00:05:19.865 and your education with where you want to go. 124 00:05:24.145 --> 00:05:27.505 I think one of the biggest myths, um, students hear is 125 00:05:27.505 --> 00:05:29.745 that employers only care about what your major is. 126 00:05:30.325 --> 00:05:33.505 In reality, when employers talk about who they wanna hire, 127 00:05:33.535 --> 00:05:34.585 they consistently point 128 00:05:34.585 --> 00:05:37.585 to skills they want embedded in their candidates skills, 129 00:05:37.585 --> 00:05:40.785 like critical thinking, problem solving, adaptability, 130 00:05:41.545 --> 00:05:43.985 communication, teamwork, relationship building. 131 00:05:44.435 --> 00:05:45.785 These are not extra skills. 132 00:05:45.795 --> 00:05:48.425 These are the skills that help people succeed in roles 133 00:05:48.535 --> 00:05:50.825 long-term and move forward within their careers. 134 00:05:51.315 --> 00:05:53.985 We've seen, um, in publications like the Harvard Business 135 00:05:53.985 --> 00:05:57.225 Review, they've highlighted that employers are increasingly, 136 00:05:57.705 --> 00:06:01.365 um, placing value in liberal arts graduates, specifically 137 00:06:01.365 --> 00:06:02.885 because their education, uh, 138 00:06:03.165 --> 00:06:04.965 emphasizes these transferable skills. 139 00:06:05.665 --> 00:06:07.365 Um, and what's important to note is 140 00:06:07.365 --> 00:06:08.845 that these skills are embedded throughout 141 00:06:08.985 --> 00:06:10.125 all college coursework. 142 00:06:10.145 --> 00:06:11.725 So no matter what major you choose, 143 00:06:11.825 --> 00:06:13.765 you are developing all these competencies 144 00:06:13.765 --> 00:06:15.205 that are employers are looking for. 145 00:06:15.745 --> 00:06:17.725 And that's why college students are continuing 146 00:06:17.725 --> 00:06:19.845 to land strong roles year after year. 147 00:06:23.355 --> 00:06:26.215 So while we offer a wide range of majors, 148 00:06:26.335 --> 00:06:27.695 I wanna focus today on a few 149 00:06:27.695 --> 00:06:30.015 that commonly lead towards business careers. 150 00:06:30.555 --> 00:06:32.695 Um, to make this easier to visualize, I've grouped some 151 00:06:32.695 --> 00:06:35.095 of these majors into a few broad pathways. 152 00:06:35.475 --> 00:06:39.455 So, um, that being people and organization focused, tech 153 00:06:39.455 --> 00:06:43.855 and innovation, uh, creative and market facing, analytical 154 00:06:44.035 --> 00:06:45.255 and finance oriented. 155 00:06:45.715 --> 00:06:47.855 And then mix and match pathways. 156 00:06:48.315 --> 00:06:50.415 So these aren't gonna be boxes you're locked into. 157 00:06:50.415 --> 00:06:52.975 They're more of lenses that will help you see 158 00:06:52.975 --> 00:06:55.655 how your interests and your strengths might, uh, 159 00:06:55.655 --> 00:06:57.135 connect into careers. 160 00:06:57.715 --> 00:07:00.495 Um, as we walk through these, I encourage you to listen for 161 00:07:00.565 --> 00:07:02.255 what, where you see yourself, not 162 00:07:02.255 --> 00:07:04.935 where you think you should fit, but where your skills 163 00:07:05.035 --> 00:07:07.055 and your interests naturally align. 164 00:07:08.945 --> 00:07:10.525 So, starting off with analytical 165 00:07:10.525 --> 00:07:12.805 and finance oriented, um, for students 166 00:07:12.805 --> 00:07:15.405 who were originally drawn to finance consulting 167 00:07:15.405 --> 00:07:16.725 or analytics, this pathway 168 00:07:17.325 --> 00:07:18.645 probably seems the most familiar to you. 169 00:07:19.225 --> 00:07:22.845 Uh, majors like economics, statistics, mathematics, uh, 170 00:07:22.845 --> 00:07:25.525 quantitative methods lead directly into roles such 171 00:07:25.525 --> 00:07:29.245 as financial analysts, risk management and consulting. 172 00:07:29.745 --> 00:07:32.805 Um, Cameron, who's a recent graduate, is a great example, 173 00:07:32.985 --> 00:07:34.965 who graduated with a degree in economics 174 00:07:34.965 --> 00:07:37.525 and now works as a business analyst at McKinsey. 175 00:07:38.185 --> 00:07:39.365 Uh, his path shows 176 00:07:39.365 --> 00:07:41.525 that strong analytical majors are not just 177 00:07:41.565 --> 00:07:42.605 a step away from business. 178 00:07:42.635 --> 00:07:44.605 They're often a direct route to it. 179 00:07:50.335 --> 00:07:51.355 Um, the People 180 00:07:51.495 --> 00:07:53.355 and Organization Focused Pathways is 181 00:07:53.355 --> 00:07:56.355 for students interested in organizations or, 182 00:07:56.355 --> 00:07:58.355 and how organizations actually work. 183 00:07:58.455 --> 00:08:01.995 So how people, how teams, and strategy all come together. 184 00:08:02.535 --> 00:08:05.355 So having majors like psychology and management 185 00:08:05.355 --> 00:08:08.675 and human organization, they frequently lead into roles such 186 00:08:08.675 --> 00:08:11.195 as, uh, human resources, sales and strategies, 187 00:08:11.255 --> 00:08:15.035 and human capital, uh, consulting,. Uh, Kendrick, another one 188 00:08:15.035 --> 00:08:16.915 of our recent graduates, majored in psychology 189 00:08:16.935 --> 00:08:18.275 and now works at Medline. 190 00:08:18.615 --> 00:08:21.315 And his role shows how understanding people, data, 191 00:08:21.575 --> 00:08:24.875 and collaboration translates into real business impacts. 192 00:08:30.065 --> 00:08:32.765 So with tech and innovation, this is one 193 00:08:32.765 --> 00:08:35.245 of like fastest growing areas within business. 194 00:08:35.785 --> 00:08:38.045 So having a major like cybersecurity 195 00:08:38.065 --> 00:08:41.205 and global policy, interactive and digital media 196 00:08:41.465 --> 00:08:43.605 and biotechnology can help prepare students 197 00:08:43.625 --> 00:08:46.565 for roles in consulting, compliance, uh, 198 00:08:46.565 --> 00:08:48.605 product operations, as well as analytics. 199 00:08:48.865 --> 00:08:53.325 So, um, Azariah, uh, works as a consulting analyst 200 00:08:53.545 --> 00:08:55.845 and as a great example of how techno, uh, 201 00:08:55.845 --> 00:08:57.165 technical knowledge combined 202 00:08:57.165 --> 00:09:00.165 with business thinking creates value for organizations. 203 00:09:04.805 --> 00:09:08.175 Also, business is about branding. It's about storytelling, 204 00:09:08.245 --> 00:09:09.815 it's about understanding different markets. 205 00:09:10.275 --> 00:09:13.535 So having majors like media have media, advertising, 206 00:09:13.725 --> 00:09:17.575 merchandising, fashion design, these lead into roles 207 00:09:17.715 --> 00:09:20.215 in brand strategy, product marketing 208 00:09:20.315 --> 00:09:21.855 and analyzing merchandise. 209 00:09:22.355 --> 00:09:26.535 So Rory, who works as in social media, um, shows 210 00:09:26.635 --> 00:09:30.575 how you can creatively, um, build business strategy 211 00:09:30.575 --> 00:09:32.615 and how they go hand in hand with each other. 212 00:09:33.795 --> 00:09:35.535 And then last 213 00:09:35.555 --> 00:09:39.495 but not least, um, there might not just be a single major 214 00:09:39.495 --> 00:09:41.975 that feels right for you, but maybe a combination. 215 00:09:42.515 --> 00:09:45.175 So within the college, students can pursue, uh, 216 00:09:45.495 --> 00:09:47.055 multiple majors and minors at the same time, 217 00:09:47.305 --> 00:09:49.055 which allows you to be very intentional 218 00:09:49.055 --> 00:09:50.135 about shaping your path. 219 00:09:50.625 --> 00:09:52.855 While I never recommend overloading yourself, 220 00:09:53.095 --> 00:09:54.855 I do believe it is important 221 00:09:54.915 --> 00:09:56.815 and powerful to think about your end goal 222 00:09:56.875 --> 00:09:59.455 and what academic pieces might help get you there. 223 00:10:00.195 --> 00:10:01.975 So the examples on this slide show 224 00:10:01.995 --> 00:10:03.615 how students blend disciplines 225 00:10:03.715 --> 00:10:05.775 to hone in on specific career paths. 226 00:10:06.235 --> 00:10:08.295 And regardless of what combination you choose, 227 00:10:08.395 --> 00:10:09.735 you'll gain the skills needed 228 00:10:09.735 --> 00:10:12.975 to stay competitive in adaptable in an ever-changing world. 229 00:10:13.825 --> 00:10:15.605 So let's take a minute or two to highlight a couple 230 00:10:15.605 --> 00:10:17.245 of these examples so you can hear 231 00:10:17.265 --> 00:10:19.125 how different interests come together into real 232 00:10:19.125 --> 00:10:21.025 careers. Uh, 233 00:10:21.085 --> 00:10:22.625 (Speaker 1) Can you, can you go back to the first slide? 234 00:10:23.765 --> 00:10:25.385 The former one? 235 00:10:26.145 --> 00:10:27.145 First one. 236 00:10:28.615 --> 00:10:31.475 Uh, no, no, not, not the career wise. Can you go? 237 00:10:31.575 --> 00:10:32.595 No, not the first one. 238 00:10:32.795 --> 00:10:34.315 I think the careers, the courses, 239 00:10:34.365 --> 00:10:38.075 which you said analytics finance. Okay. This is 240 00:10:38.075 --> 00:10:39.155 The one, oh, sorry, analytics 241 00:10:39.155 --> 00:10:40.155 Finance. No, no, I'm just, I 242 00:10:40.155 --> 00:10:42.635 wanted to see that. Analytics, finance. 243 00:10:43.025 --> 00:10:44.025 Okay. 244 00:10:44.825 --> 00:10:48.275 Yeah. Um, 245 00:10:49.845 --> 00:10:51.305 so what the mix and match pathways. 246 00:10:51.445 --> 00:10:54.905 So economics and psychology is a powerful combination 247 00:10:54.905 --> 00:10:57.025 because it blends data and human behavior. 248 00:10:57.365 --> 00:10:59.985 So students with this pairing often move into behavior 249 00:10:59.985 --> 00:11:02.665 finance, um, human resources, analytics 250 00:11:02.725 --> 00:11:05.465 and consulting roles where you understanding why people are 251 00:11:05.465 --> 00:11:07.665 making decisions as just as important 252 00:11:07.685 --> 00:11:08.865 as the numbers behind them. 253 00:11:10.005 --> 00:11:13.545 Um, may be looking at international studies paired 254 00:11:13.545 --> 00:11:15.665 with statistics, which is a great option 255 00:11:15.665 --> 00:11:17.585 for students interested in global business. 256 00:11:18.015 --> 00:11:19.825 This pairing helps prepare students 257 00:11:20.005 --> 00:11:23.305 to analyze international markets, understand economic 258 00:11:23.605 --> 00:11:26.545 and political context, and use data to guide decisions 259 00:11:26.545 --> 00:11:28.665 for companies operating across many countries. 260 00:11:30.205 --> 00:11:32.705 Um, pairing cognitive science 261 00:11:32.725 --> 00:11:35.825 and media is a strong pathway for students interested in 262 00:11:35.885 --> 00:11:38.665 how people interact with products and technology. 263 00:11:39.205 --> 00:11:42.105 So if you're into user experience research 264 00:11:42.445 --> 00:11:43.745 or product strategy roles 265 00:11:43.745 --> 00:11:46.265 where you're studying user behavior, testing ideas 266 00:11:46.285 --> 00:11:48.945 and helping shape how products are designed and improved. 267 00:11:49.645 --> 00:11:52.305 And then another one is journalism 268 00:11:52.605 --> 00:11:54.925 paired with economics, which is ideal for students 269 00:11:54.925 --> 00:11:56.205 who wanna work with business 270 00:11:56.225 --> 00:11:59.165 but prefer communications over spreadsheets. 271 00:11:59.625 --> 00:12:02.205 Um, this pathway is gonna help lead you into business 272 00:12:02.205 --> 00:12:05.205 reporting, corporate communication and investor relating 273 00:12:05.505 --> 00:12:08.405 or relations, essentially helping organizations explain 274 00:12:08.415 --> 00:12:11.565 their complex ideas to very different audiences. 275 00:12:12.635 --> 00:12:13.915 I think the takeaway that I'm trying 276 00:12:13.915 --> 00:12:17.075 to say here is there isn't one right combination. 277 00:12:17.665 --> 00:12:19.595 What matters is how your interest skills 278 00:12:19.655 --> 00:12:20.875 and your goals come together, 279 00:12:20.975 --> 00:12:23.355 and the college gives you that flexibility to build 280 00:12:23.385 --> 00:12:24.395 that intentionally. 281 00:12:25.495 --> 00:12:27.875 And I wanna be clear, these pathways are not theoretical. 282 00:12:27.985 --> 00:12:29.675 They play out in very real ways. 283 00:12:30.415 --> 00:12:33.075 So Ellyn is a great example of this on paper, 284 00:12:33.105 --> 00:12:36.075 nothing about her academic background screams marketing. 285 00:12:36.335 --> 00:12:38.595 She studied history and international studies, 286 00:12:38.945 --> 00:12:41.355 however, through her cur, through her coursework, 287 00:12:41.465 --> 00:12:42.795 project experiences, 288 00:12:43.615 --> 00:12:45.475 and she developed these transferable skills. 289 00:12:45.495 --> 00:12:47.235 So critical thinking, communication, 290 00:12:47.465 --> 00:12:49.195 data analysis, collaboration. 291 00:12:49.455 --> 00:12:52.235 And that positioned her for a marketing role at Visa. 292 00:12:52.975 --> 00:12:55.995 Her path not only shows that it's not about the label 293 00:12:55.995 --> 00:12:58.075 of your major, it's about the skills you build 294 00:12:58.095 --> 00:12:59.235 and how you apply them. 295 00:13:03.645 --> 00:13:05.425 And it's not just our recent graduates. 296 00:13:05.525 --> 00:13:07.745 We have a very robust alumni network. 297 00:13:08.165 --> 00:13:11.945 So here are a couple of our alumnis, uh, Sabrina, Katherine, 298 00:13:11.965 --> 00:13:14.665 and Kirk, who all studied different majors within the 299 00:13:14.665 --> 00:13:18.305 college and now work as a senior marketing, tech strategy 300 00:13:18.445 --> 00:13:20.705 and analytical roles at major companies. 301 00:13:21.085 --> 00:13:22.465 Um, I'm not gonna walk through each 302 00:13:22.465 --> 00:13:23.865 of their stories in great detail, 303 00:13:23.885 --> 00:13:25.505 but I want you to notice a pattern here. 304 00:13:25.595 --> 00:13:29.745 There are different majors, they all on different paths, 305 00:13:29.965 --> 00:13:32.665 but they all led to having strong business roles. 306 00:13:34.105 --> 00:13:35.245 And I think what led them 307 00:13:35.245 --> 00:13:37.405 to their success wasn't having a single major. 308 00:13:37.825 --> 00:13:40.565 It was making intentional choices, um, 309 00:13:40.775 --> 00:13:42.445 using the support around them (cough). 310 00:13:46.185 --> 00:13:48.685 Now nothing of this is gonna happen on your own. 311 00:13:48.945 --> 00:13:51.645 One of the primary ways that we support students is 312 00:13:51.645 --> 00:13:53.725 through the Walter Career Center, Walter Center 313 00:13:53.725 --> 00:13:55.685 for Career Achievement, which serves, uh, serves 314 00:13:55.705 --> 00:13:57.125 as the college's career center. 315 00:13:57.625 --> 00:14:01.205 So from resume support, to networking, to internships, 316 00:14:01.225 --> 00:14:03.725 to experiential learning, this is where, uh, many 317 00:14:03.725 --> 00:14:04.965 of our students are going to turn their 318 00:14:05.365 --> 00:14:06.525 interests into action. 319 00:14:08.365 --> 00:14:10.905 And another way the college supports that is 320 00:14:10.905 --> 00:14:12.425 through the curriculum itself. 321 00:14:12.565 --> 00:14:16.825 So two courses I wanna highlight are Q295 and 299, 322 00:14:16.825 --> 00:14:19.425 because they're designed for moments, especially like this. 323 00:14:20.005 --> 00:14:21.825 Um, Q295 is going 324 00:14:21.825 --> 00:14:24.225 to help you step back and explore options. 325 00:14:24.335 --> 00:14:26.865 It's a hand on course where you're testing ideas, 326 00:14:26.965 --> 00:14:28.225 you're talking to professionals 327 00:14:28.285 --> 00:14:30.465 and you're making thoughtful decisions. 328 00:14:31.005 --> 00:14:33.065 And 299 builds upon that 329 00:14:33.165 --> 00:14:35.145 by helping you tell your professional story. 330 00:14:35.565 --> 00:14:37.025 So like it helps you clearly 331 00:14:37.205 --> 00:14:38.785 and confidently, um, 332 00:14:39.215 --> 00:14:40.745 tell like you're focusing on your resume, 333 00:14:40.935 --> 00:14:43.225 your interviewing skills, networking, 334 00:14:43.225 --> 00:14:44.345 and your understanding what 335 00:14:44.705 --> 00:14:45.865 employers are actually looking for. 336 00:14:46.485 --> 00:14:47.625 So one thing I like to think 337 00:14:47.645 --> 00:14:49.305 of these come off as a sequence. 338 00:14:49.565 --> 00:14:52.525 So Q295 is gonna help you find your direction, 339 00:14:52.865 --> 00:14:56.605 and Q299 is going to help you communicate that direction. 340 00:15:00.485 --> 00:15:02.345 Now we also believe in transparency. 341 00:15:02.805 --> 00:15:04.305 So on the left you're gonna see a couple 342 00:15:04.305 --> 00:15:07.105 of our top first destinations for recent grads. 343 00:15:07.525 --> 00:15:10.665 Um, on the right, if, if you scan this QR code to go to 344 00:15:10.665 --> 00:15:11.705 that link, it's gonna take you 345 00:15:12.025 --> 00:15:13.945 to our career outcomes dashboard. 346 00:15:14.405 --> 00:15:17.225 So you can search any major that we have within the college 347 00:15:17.285 --> 00:15:20.025 and you can see where in the world our graduates are 348 00:15:20.295 --> 00:15:23.745 working, um, like where, what roles they've landed, 349 00:15:24.085 --> 00:15:25.425 the average compensation, 350 00:15:25.485 --> 00:15:27.665 and their overall satisfaction six months 351 00:15:27.915 --> 00:15:30.105 after they have graduated from their programs. 352 00:15:30.565 --> 00:15:33.265 Um, I truly believe it's a powerful tool in making an 353 00:15:33.545 --> 00:15:36.225 informed decision 'cause you're able to see these paths 354 00:15:36.225 --> 00:15:38.305 that are laid out from real people 355 00:15:38.565 --> 00:15:40.025 and that have been successful. 356 00:15:42.695 --> 00:15:45.395 So, um, I'm gonna turn it back over to Megan 357 00:15:45.415 --> 00:15:48.635 to talk more about the Kelley side of how to still keep that, 358 00:15:48.735 --> 00:15:51.635 um, included into your academic journey. 359 00:15:51.735 --> 00:15:53.035 Um, but thank you for having me 360 00:15:53.055 --> 00:15:54.555 and I'll turn it over to Megan. 361 00:15:54.965 --> 00:15:56.235 Great, thanks so much Isiah. 362 00:15:56.415 --> 00:16:00.515 So, um, students who are not pursuing the business major 363 00:16:01.035 --> 00:16:03.875 actually have a unique opportunity to complete, uh, 364 00:16:04.135 --> 00:16:07.275 minors in the programs specifically. 365 00:16:07.575 --> 00:16:09.635 And so there are minors 366 00:16:09.695 --> 00:16:12.435 and certificates that are available within this. 367 00:16:12.615 --> 00:16:14.275 So there is a business minor, 368 00:16:14.555 --> 00:16:16.835 a marketing minor, financial literacy minor 369 00:16:17.555 --> 00:16:19.475 entrepreneurship and small business management minor, 370 00:16:19.815 --> 00:16:21.115 And the great news is, is 371 00:16:21.115 --> 00:16:23.395 that if you've already taken business K201 372 00:16:23.535 --> 00:16:25.235 and received a "C" or better in the course, 373 00:16:25.545 --> 00:16:28.835 it's gonna count towards one of these four minor programs. 374 00:16:29.285 --> 00:16:32.555 There are also a series of, uh, certificate programs 375 00:16:33.025 --> 00:16:35.515 that include accounting, entrepreneurship, 376 00:16:35.785 --> 00:16:37.435 real estate, and supply chain. 377 00:16:37.815 --> 00:16:40.035 And the difference, a lot of times students will say, well, 378 00:16:40.035 --> 00:16:41.955 what's the difference between a minor and a certificate? 379 00:16:42.475 --> 00:16:45.235 A minor is something that you would share directly 380 00:16:45.235 --> 00:16:46.515 with your academic advisor. 381 00:16:46.625 --> 00:16:48.635 They would add that to your official record 382 00:16:49.015 --> 00:16:50.235 and there would be a record 383 00:16:50.255 --> 00:16:52.395 of it on your transcript specifically. 384 00:16:52.655 --> 00:16:55.355 You would include it in your LinkedIn profile, 385 00:16:55.495 --> 00:16:58.595 you would include it in your resume, that sort of thing, 386 00:16:58.655 --> 00:17:00.875 as you were going through the recruitment process. 387 00:17:01.495 --> 00:17:03.475 For certificates, you would do the same thing 388 00:17:03.655 --> 00:17:06.475 for your resume and also for your LinkedIn profile, 389 00:17:06.895 --> 00:17:09.795 but that is a academic credential essentially 390 00:17:09.815 --> 00:17:11.635 and so it doesn't go on the transcript. 391 00:17:11.895 --> 00:17:14.515 You would simply talk about that in an interview. 392 00:17:14.735 --> 00:17:17.675 You would put it on your profile or in your resume itself. 393 00:17:18.005 --> 00:17:21.435 There is another wonderful course if you are interested, 394 00:17:21.635 --> 00:17:24.955 a course of study that is the Center for the Business 395 00:17:24.955 --> 00:17:26.035 of Life Sciences. 396 00:17:26.665 --> 00:17:29.475 They have a undergraduate associate role 397 00:17:29.505 --> 00:17:33.515 that students can apply for as early as the sophomore year. 398 00:17:33.575 --> 00:17:36.675 And it is open to every single major at IU. 399 00:17:36.675 --> 00:17:38.035 There's not a restriction on this. 400 00:17:38.455 --> 00:17:40.075 It gets you one-on-one networking 401 00:17:40.385 --> 00:17:43.555 with executives from life sciences companies, 402 00:17:43.775 --> 00:17:46.035 it gives you the opportunity to attend some 403 00:17:46.035 --> 00:17:47.755 of these life sciences symposiums 404 00:17:47.775 --> 00:17:49.445 or conferences for really, 405 00:17:49.445 --> 00:17:51.925 really inexpensive rates or for free, 406 00:17:52.345 --> 00:17:56.765 and then you also get permission to take two classes: one 407 00:17:56.765 --> 00:17:59.405 that is on global trends in the life sciences 408 00:17:59.665 --> 00:18:01.845 and one that is on the life cycle 409 00:18:02.025 --> 00:18:04.765 of the life sciences industry from research to patients. 410 00:18:05.065 --> 00:18:07.125 And so these are all opportunities for you 411 00:18:07.635 --> 00:18:10.405 that could be really, really excellent to access 412 00:18:10.785 --> 00:18:12.485 as you move into this next phase. 413 00:18:16.615 --> 00:18:19.405 There are also opportunities for students if you decide 414 00:18:19.405 --> 00:18:22.125 that you wanna stick around for a fifth year to do 415 00:18:22.765 --> 00:18:25.645 graduate programs within Kelley. Graduate programs are 416 00:18:25.805 --> 00:18:28.325 completely separate from undergraduate program 417 00:18:28.335 --> 00:18:29.765 admissions in the Kelley School. 418 00:18:29.905 --> 00:18:32.925 And so if you decide that you wanna do a residence program, 419 00:18:33.805 --> 00:18:36.685 students who complete the certificate in accounting would be 420 00:18:36.685 --> 00:18:39.085 lined up to move into the MS in accounting with data 421 00:18:39.105 --> 00:18:41.245 and analytics, there is an MS in finance, 422 00:18:41.665 --> 00:18:44.165 one in information systems and one in management. 423 00:18:44.165 --> 00:18:46.645 And these are all programs that are available for you 424 00:18:46.645 --> 00:18:47.725 to apply for as a junior 425 00:18:47.785 --> 00:18:51.045 or a senior at IU from any program specifically. 426 00:18:51.465 --> 00:18:53.325 If you're more interested in an online program 427 00:18:53.745 --> 00:18:56.045 or just a little bit more education in one area, 428 00:18:56.095 --> 00:18:57.925 there are other opportunities for that as well. 429 00:18:58.145 --> 00:19:00.805 And you do not need a business degree to do these. 430 00:19:05.255 --> 00:19:06.525 Great. Well, let's go ahead 431 00:19:06.525 --> 00:19:09.525 and see what kind of questions you all might have, um, 432 00:19:09.945 --> 00:19:11.965 for Isiah as we get started 433 00:19:12.105 --> 00:19:14.565 and then we will begin our panel shortly. 434 00:19:18.475 --> 00:19:19.525 Does anyone have a question? 435 00:19:19.525 --> 00:19:22.485 You can put it into the Q&A or you can raise your hand 436 00:19:22.505 --> 00:19:24.525 and we'll call on you, whatever you would prefer. 437 00:19:25.545 --> 00:19:29.085 And if seeing none, then I will definitely be happy 438 00:19:29.085 --> 00:19:30.605 to jump right on in. 439 00:19:35.635 --> 00:19:39.085 Alright. Seeing none right now. Oh, great. 440 00:19:39.405 --> 00:19:40.605 Go ahead. What's your 441 00:19:42.605 --> 00:19:43.605 Question? (Speaker 1) So, uh, 442 00:19:43.605 --> 00:19:45.485 can you go back one slide? 443 00:19:45.745 --> 00:19:47.845 Uh, I think just, yeah. 444 00:19:48.425 --> 00:19:52.605 So is this, so, uh, first of all, um, 445 00:19:53.865 --> 00:19:57.005 the degree which you are talking about, this is 446 00:19:58.145 --> 00:20:00.605 not given under Kelley Business School. 447 00:20:00.605 --> 00:20:04.045 Correct? It's which, which business, 448 00:20:04.055 --> 00:20:05.525 which school under school, 449 00:20:05.945 --> 00:20:07.925 the degree will be available for this. 450 00:20:09.165 --> 00:20:12.325 Absolutely. So, so for this particular slide, 451 00:20:12.655 --> 00:20:15.885 these are graduate programs that result in a master's 452 00:20:15.885 --> 00:20:17.325 of science. (Speaker 1) Correct. 453 00:20:17.325 --> 00:20:18.885 In these particular areas. 454 00:20:19.065 --> 00:20:21.365 And these are Kelley School of Business degrees, 455 00:20:21.585 --> 00:20:23.165 but they are graduate programs. 456 00:20:23.545 --> 00:20:25.405 So before a student starts these, they have 457 00:20:25.405 --> 00:20:27.005 to complete the undergraduate degree. 458 00:20:27.785 --> 00:20:29.125 (Speaker 1) So the undergraduate program, 459 00:20:29.215 --> 00:20:32.205 which you have just now explained. Mm-hmm. 460 00:20:32.835 --> 00:20:37.045 Student can pick it up, which, uh, 461 00:20:37.385 --> 00:20:40.645 school degree will be, will, will, will they receive. 462 00:20:41.745 --> 00:20:44.525 So they will be receiving degrees from the College of Arts 463 00:20:44.545 --> 00:20:47.805 and Sciences with a major in this particular area. 464 00:20:47.985 --> 00:20:49.525 So the way that I would see a student 465 00:20:50.115 --> 00:20:53.725 line things up on their resume right, is 466 00:20:53.795 --> 00:20:55.805 that they would say, I have a degree from the College 467 00:20:55.805 --> 00:21:00.005 of Arts and Sciences in biotechnology, a minor in marketing, 468 00:21:00.545 --> 00:21:03.045 and I completed a certificate in real estate 469 00:21:03.045 --> 00:21:04.565 through the Kelley School of Business. 470 00:21:05.065 --> 00:21:07.525 And then if the student then decides to move on 471 00:21:07.525 --> 00:21:09.885 to graduate work, then they're working 472 00:21:09.885 --> 00:21:11.885 with the graduate career coaches to kind 473 00:21:11.885 --> 00:21:13.365 of format their materials. 474 00:21:13.365 --> 00:21:14.925 Does that get at what you were asking? 475 00:21:15.705 --> 00:21:17.245 (Speaker 1) Yes. I need to understand, like, 476 00:21:17.245 --> 00:21:20.565 because the, the, if if they were regarded into a Kelley, 477 00:21:20.835 --> 00:21:23.965 then you would say that Kelley School of Business 478 00:21:24.475 --> 00:21:26.045 issuing this undergraduate degree. 479 00:21:26.045 --> 00:21:27.285 Correct. That's my point. 480 00:21:27.545 --> 00:21:31.005 The Kelley School of Business would be issuing the, uh, 481 00:21:31.215 --> 00:21:33.925 minor and they would be issuing the certificate 482 00:21:34.145 --> 00:21:35.805 itself, so. (Speaker 1) Understood. 483 00:21:36.105 --> 00:21:38.045 Yep. And in the case of the graduate programs, 484 00:21:38.045 --> 00:21:41.085 the Kelley School would be grad, would be providing the MS. 485 00:21:43.655 --> 00:21:45.525 {Speaker 1} Understood. Great. Okay. 486 00:21:45.815 --> 00:21:48.285 Super. And can you go back to two slides 487 00:21:48.385 --> 00:21:49.765 before just uh. mm-hmm. 488 00:21:49.875 --> 00:21:52.965 Okay. Yep. (Speaker 1) You said that this this majors 489 00:21:53.595 --> 00:21:56.645 Yeah, that actually should say minors on there. 490 00:21:56.925 --> 00:21:59.005 I messed up the slide on this component. (Speaker 1) Okay. 491 00:21:59.005 --> 00:22:00.085 So this should say minors 492 00:22:00.185 --> 00:22:02.205 and certificates and then credentials. 493 00:22:02.265 --> 00:22:05.125 So I apologize, that's confusing. Yeah, 494 00:22:06.335 --> 00:22:07.335 (Speaker 1) Understood. 495 00:22:07.665 --> 00:22:10.765 Um, go back one more slide. Mm-hmm. 496 00:22:12.705 --> 00:22:16.525 One more. I think there was a, I need to understand 497 00:22:16.525 --> 00:22:17.565 what is mean by these. 498 00:22:18.445 --> 00:22:20.645 I I didn't get the, this portion of the 499 00:22:21.065 --> 00:22:22.285 Yes, I think the, I think 500 00:22:22.305 --> 00:22:23.445 Please, Isiah, why don't 501 00:22:23.445 --> 00:22:25.925 (Speaker 1) Somebody explained that, but, uh, yeah, just wanted 502 00:22:25.925 --> 00:22:27.565 to understand what is mean by these courses. 503 00:22:28.425 --> 00:22:30.885 So part of our pillars that all 504 00:22:30.885 --> 00:22:32.405 of our students within the College of Arts 505 00:22:32.405 --> 00:22:34.445 and Science have, like their our case requirements, 506 00:22:34.955 --> 00:22:36.925 it's going to, we want to make sure all 507 00:22:36.925 --> 00:22:39.885 of our students are set up for success by knowing how, 508 00:22:40.235 --> 00:22:41.325 what they are studying 509 00:22:41.585 --> 00:22:43.525 and how to talk about what they're studying. 510 00:22:43.865 --> 00:22:47.005 And so these are like a 1, 2 required course. 511 00:22:47.465 --> 00:22:50.935 The 295 is going to help you if you're 512 00:22:51.835 --> 00:22:53.775 unsure about your major or unsure about your current 513 00:22:53.775 --> 00:22:56.815 pathway, how to solidify, making sure like 514 00:22:57.675 --> 00:22:59.125 this is what you want to do. 515 00:22:59.825 --> 00:23:03.125 Um, while 299 is going to talk more about like, 516 00:23:03.345 --> 00:23:07.125 how can you share that story in order to like, um, how 517 00:23:07.125 --> 00:23:08.845 to share your story when you're in an interview, 518 00:23:09.075 --> 00:23:11.045 when you're trying to get internships. 519 00:23:11.045 --> 00:23:15.725 Like how do you talk about, um, your pathway, um, 520 00:23:16.895 --> 00:23:19.315 in a sense to communicate that story. 521 00:23:20.375 --> 00:23:22.395 So there, it's a, um, 522 00:23:22.875 --> 00:23:25.995 I believe a one credit, 50 minutes a week 523 00:23:26.185 --> 00:23:27.395 type course for both of these. 524 00:23:27.555 --> 00:23:31.015 I think they're eight weeks. Um, yeah. 525 00:23:31.015 --> 00:23:35.535 So it, it's not, not a like a full like three credit 526 00:23:35.635 --> 00:23:36.695 or four credit class. 527 00:23:36.845 --> 00:23:39.415 It's something to help prepare you just for the future, 528 00:23:39.915 --> 00:23:42.935 uh, that's given through our, um, career center. 529 00:23:45.285 --> 00:23:48.225 (Speaker 1) Got it. And when can we take these courses? 530 00:23:48.525 --> 00:23:51.025 Can we, can they take these courses in next semester? 531 00:23:51.615 --> 00:23:55.305 Yeah. So, um, Q295, you're able to take right now, 532 00:23:55.305 --> 00:23:57.865 like if you want to throw that in your shopping cart, 533 00:23:57.965 --> 00:23:59.585 you can take that this semester. 534 00:23:59.925 --> 00:24:02.065 Um, 299 I believe is only offered 535 00:24:02.085 --> 00:24:03.465 for sophomores and juniors. 536 00:24:04.005 --> 00:24:05.665 (Speaker 1) Got it. No, I understand. 537 00:24:05.745 --> 00:24:08.345 I was, uh, I was very specific about 295 only. 538 00:24:08.455 --> 00:24:09.945 Yeah. Good. Okay. 539 00:24:10.485 --> 00:24:11.905 And they also offer other courses 540 00:24:12.165 --> 00:24:14.185 and like I threw that on this slide as well, 541 00:24:14.375 --> 00:24:17.025 just in case you want to have additional experiences, 542 00:24:17.045 --> 00:24:20.505 but those aren't required, um, for a college student, uh, 543 00:24:20.505 --> 00:24:21.705 college arts and sciences students. 544 00:24:23.175 --> 00:24:27.725 (Speaker 1) Understood. And if this, so, uh, 545 00:24:27.955 --> 00:24:29.125 this Art and science 546 00:24:29.825 --> 00:24:34.045 and Kelley, what's a major difference will be like, 547 00:24:34.185 --> 00:24:35.245 is it a three year course 548 00:24:35.265 --> 00:24:36.605 or four year course kind of things? 549 00:24:36.775 --> 00:24:37.775 How's that? 550 00:24:38.345 --> 00:24:41.605 No, most of the degrees are at IU are designed 551 00:24:41.625 --> 00:24:45.245 to be four year degrees, uh, for students to complete. 552 00:24:45.425 --> 00:24:49.405 So they would be, this webinar is being offered for students 553 00:24:49.425 --> 00:24:52.445 who are maybe pivoting from a degree that they were planning 554 00:24:52.465 --> 00:24:56.125 to pursue in the Kelley School over to a degree 555 00:24:56.125 --> 00:24:57.325 that they would complete in the College 556 00:24:57.325 --> 00:24:58.365 of Arts and Sciences. 557 00:24:58.625 --> 00:25:02.685 And so if they chose to do a degree in economics 558 00:25:02.685 --> 00:25:03.845 or media advertising 559 00:25:03.845 --> 00:25:06.205 or something along those lines, those would be degrees 560 00:25:06.205 --> 00:25:08.685 that they would complete out of the College of Arts 561 00:25:08.705 --> 00:25:11.165 and Sciences, but they would still be able to pursue 562 00:25:11.685 --> 00:25:14.325 a business focused career as a part of that. 563 00:25:15.275 --> 00:25:18.365 Yeah. And on top of that, if you're looking credit wise, 564 00:25:18.545 --> 00:25:23.085 all of our, um, majors have about 120 credit, 565 00:25:23.505 --> 00:25:24.805 um, requirements. 566 00:25:24.985 --> 00:25:29.165 So like, um, between building majors, minors, certificates, 567 00:25:29.225 --> 00:25:31.285 that will help you get towards that degree. 568 00:25:33.885 --> 00:25:36.125 Absolutely. Well, I'm gonna go ahead 569 00:25:36.225 --> 00:25:38.805 and move us into our interview process. 570 00:25:39.385 --> 00:25:42.325 If there are additional questions, please feel free 571 00:25:42.385 --> 00:25:45.525 to pose those in the chat or in the Q&A. 572 00:25:45.785 --> 00:25:49.085 And we have some additional help, uh, here 573 00:25:49.085 --> 00:25:51.845 with us in the form of some academic advising colleagues 574 00:25:51.845 --> 00:25:53.925 who will be able to do a great, great work with that. 575 00:25:54.065 --> 00:25:55.325 So Ashley 576 00:25:55.505 --> 00:25:59.205 and Alex, I am so grateful that you are spending time 577 00:25:59.205 --> 00:26:00.885 with us today, so thank you so much. 578 00:26:01.625 --> 00:26:04.765 Uh, before we get into kind of the specifics, I wanna start 579 00:26:04.765 --> 00:26:05.845 with you as people, right? 580 00:26:05.845 --> 00:26:09.405 Like right outta the gate. So can you again, you know, share 581 00:26:09.405 --> 00:26:11.445 where you're from about what you're studying, 582 00:26:11.745 --> 00:26:14.325 and then give me one word that describes about 583 00:26:14.325 --> 00:26:16.485 how you're feeling about your future right now. 584 00:26:17.945 --> 00:26:20.605 Um, Ashley, if you want me to go first 585 00:26:20.745 --> 00:26:22.565 so I can go first. Yeah, go 586 00:26:22.565 --> 00:26:23.565 For it, Alex. 587 00:26:24.185 --> 00:26:27.165 Um, so I'm Alexander Pécard-Leese. 588 00:26:27.685 --> 00:26:29.245 I was born and raised in France, 589 00:26:29.375 --> 00:26:32.525 moved here about five years ago, uh, to the United States. 590 00:26:33.465 --> 00:26:36.885 Um, and I'm studying biotech 591 00:26:37.395 --> 00:26:40.285 because I'm planning on going into the commercial side 592 00:26:40.345 --> 00:26:44.445 of the life sciences, so whether that is pharma, biotech, 593 00:26:44.825 --> 00:26:46.125 or med tech. 594 00:26:47.025 --> 00:26:51.285 Um, and right now I'm feeling pretty 595 00:26:51.795 --> 00:26:54.245 excited about my future, I should say. 596 00:26:54.865 --> 00:26:57.485 Um, recently in the last, uh, two weeks, 597 00:26:57.565 --> 00:27:01.685 I actually signed an offer for an internship in my, uh, 598 00:27:02.895 --> 00:27:07.205 for Elanco, which is a big, uh, animal veterinary company. 599 00:27:07.745 --> 00:27:12.005 And, uh, that's kind of the plan right now. 600 00:27:12.385 --> 00:27:14.445 So I, I should say excited. 601 00:27:15.585 --> 00:27:20.205 That's awesome. Hey, I am Ashley. 602 00:27:20.425 --> 00:27:22.285 I'm originally from Indianapolis 603 00:27:22.585 --> 00:27:24.845 and I'm studying, again, organizational 604 00:27:24.905 --> 00:27:27.205 and business psychology, which really combines 605 00:27:27.205 --> 00:27:29.645 that human aspect of social psychology 606 00:27:30.165 --> 00:27:31.285 behavior within the workforce. 607 00:27:32.025 --> 00:27:35.165 And, hence why I added on my minor in human resources 608 00:27:35.165 --> 00:27:38.045 management because the two course, the two concepts, 609 00:27:38.045 --> 00:27:39.765 they very heavily correlate with each other, 610 00:27:39.945 --> 00:27:42.085 and they're both topics that I really enjoy. 611 00:27:42.865 --> 00:27:45.085 So knowing that I'm a senior, I've gotten 612 00:27:45.085 --> 00:27:47.765 to experience different HR internships here in Indy, 613 00:27:48.065 --> 00:27:51.485 one at a private insurance firm, and then one at Eli Lilly. 614 00:27:51.905 --> 00:27:54.285 And then I would say to describe my whole college 615 00:27:54.285 --> 00:27:56.925 experience, I would say a accomplished just 616 00:27:56.925 --> 00:28:00.005 because, similar to Alex, I recently signed an offer 617 00:28:00.025 --> 00:28:02.205 to go work at Wells Fargo after graduation. 618 00:28:03.585 --> 00:28:07.205 That's so exciting. Great. Well, thank you both so much. 619 00:28:07.355 --> 00:28:08.525 Wonderful work. 620 00:28:09.225 --> 00:28:11.565 I'm interested in hearing, Ashley, maybe you could start 621 00:28:11.565 --> 00:28:13.685 with this and then Alex, if you want to jump in, 622 00:28:14.145 --> 00:28:16.565 was there a turning point for you 623 00:28:17.135 --> 00:28:20.365 early on in your education, like a conversation or a class 624 00:28:20.505 --> 00:28:22.245 or an advisor or an experience 625 00:28:22.245 --> 00:28:25.245 or something that happened that really helped you see like, 626 00:28:25.345 --> 00:28:27.885 oh, this is the major I'm supposed to be doing 627 00:28:28.025 --> 00:28:29.285 and this is where I want to go? 628 00:28:30.235 --> 00:28:32.805 Yeah, certainly. So to kind of pivot it from a little bit, 629 00:28:32.825 --> 00:28:35.005 I'm gonna start from a moment where I realize I need 630 00:28:35.165 --> 00:28:37.045 to shift my major to find my true passion. 631 00:28:37.785 --> 00:28:39.085 And that's partially why. 632 00:28:39.425 --> 00:28:41.525 One of the reasons why I chose to come to IU was 633 00:28:41.525 --> 00:28:44.525 because as a freshman I was able to get right involved 634 00:28:44.525 --> 00:28:46.165 with research through the ASURE program. 635 00:28:46.885 --> 00:28:50.045 I was in a lab called Exploring the Brain via EEG, 636 00:28:50.045 --> 00:28:51.565 which was super cool, you know, 637 00:28:51.565 --> 00:28:54.365 as a freshman we're using medical equipment, really getting 638 00:28:54.365 --> 00:28:57.245 that hands-on experience. It was a great opportunity. 639 00:28:57.555 --> 00:29:00.685 however, at the very end of the semester, I learned 640 00:29:00.685 --> 00:29:02.365 that research, it wasn't for me. 641 00:29:02.585 --> 00:29:04.205 (Ashley) And that's completely normal 642 00:29:04.435 --> 00:29:06.325 because since it's not for me, 643 00:29:06.325 --> 00:29:07.445 doesn't mean it's not for other people. 644 00:29:08.185 --> 00:29:10.925 But that was really my spark moment of where I needed 645 00:29:10.925 --> 00:29:12.805 to shift from clinical psychology 646 00:29:12.865 --> 00:29:14.685 to really figure out what my passions are. 647 00:29:15.425 --> 00:29:17.765 So after that research lab is when I started exploring 648 00:29:17.765 --> 00:29:18.965 different majors within the college 649 00:29:18.965 --> 00:29:22.205 because I knew I still wanted that liberal arts background, 650 00:29:22.205 --> 00:29:23.925 which is where I found the organizational 651 00:29:24.075 --> 00:29:25.405 more business side of psychology. 652 00:29:25.865 --> 00:29:28.085 So I'd say that was my way of finding 653 00:29:28.085 --> 00:29:29.685 what I wanted to do and pursue. 654 00:29:33.155 --> 00:29:36.765 Yeah, absolutely. And I would love to add a, a point to, 655 00:29:37.705 --> 00:29:41.365 uh, our lovely advisors at the College of Arts and Sciences. 656 00:29:41.625 --> 00:29:45.885 The reason I'm actually a biotech major is thanks to one 657 00:29:45.885 --> 00:29:48.405 of our advisors, and it was actually, uh, our, 658 00:29:48.505 --> 00:29:50.485 my very first meeting at orientation 659 00:29:50.495 --> 00:29:53.325 where I came in only knowing I liked biology, 660 00:29:54.345 --> 00:29:58.445 and just through a 30 minute conversation with my advisor, 661 00:29:58.705 --> 00:30:00.845 she explained every single thing about 662 00:30:01.795 --> 00:30:04.565 what this degree entailed and what I wanted to do. 663 00:30:04.565 --> 00:30:07.205 And she really got to know what I was feeling like. 664 00:30:07.265 --> 00:30:09.885 And she was like, you know what, try this intro 665 00:30:09.885 --> 00:30:12.645 to biotech class and tell me how you feel about it, 666 00:30:12.645 --> 00:30:14.165 and if you like it, we'll switch you over to biotech 667 00:30:14.165 --> 00:30:16.525 because it seems like it's a really good fit for you. 668 00:30:17.705 --> 00:30:21.485 And took that class, love, absolutely loved it. 669 00:30:21.645 --> 00:30:23.925 I, I had a meeting with her at the end of the semester 670 00:30:23.925 --> 00:30:25.845 and I said, change me, change, change me 671 00:30:25.845 --> 00:30:28.925 to biotech right now, because this is really nice. 672 00:30:29.785 --> 00:30:31.525 That's such a great experience. 673 00:30:32.275 --> 00:30:33.605 This is a, a question for you. 674 00:30:33.605 --> 00:30:37.605 What do you genuinely love the most about your major, Alex? 675 00:30:37.675 --> 00:30:39.245 Like, not just what looks good on the resume, 676 00:30:39.345 --> 00:30:42.325 but like what actually keeps you pulled into it? 677 00:30:42.505 --> 00:30:44.045 And then Ashley we'll turn to you. 678 00:30:45.545 --> 00:30:49.165 Um, I'm a bit of, um, a nerd in regards 679 00:30:49.165 --> 00:30:52.445 where I do just genuinely enjoy biology. 680 00:30:53.665 --> 00:30:58.405 Um, biotech is just like a really fun mix 681 00:30:58.465 --> 00:31:00.765 of theoretical biology and application, 682 00:31:00.945 --> 00:31:04.645 and then also industry, uh, knowledge. 683 00:31:04.905 --> 00:31:07.325 Uh, we have a few classes which do couple that, 684 00:31:07.325 --> 00:31:10.205 that industry knowledge from the professional industry. 685 00:31:11.025 --> 00:31:13.405 And being able to understand that 686 00:31:13.425 --> 00:31:16.365 and apply that to the real world is super interesting to me. 687 00:31:18.945 --> 00:31:21.965 For me, what I love about my major is I love learning 688 00:31:21.965 --> 00:31:23.525 about the brain, even though it's more 689 00:31:23.525 --> 00:31:25.525 of the clinical science route, I'm still able 690 00:31:25.525 --> 00:31:28.045 to incorporate some of those aspects into more of my, 691 00:31:28.045 --> 00:31:30.045 the career path that I'm choosing, which is HR. 692 00:31:30.825 --> 00:31:33.525 And what I really love about my minor is it has a lot 693 00:31:33.525 --> 00:31:35.645 of those classes that you can learn about different 694 00:31:35.885 --> 00:31:38.205 functions within HR and see really what your niche is, 695 00:31:38.205 --> 00:31:39.525 what you like and what you don't like. 696 00:31:40.165 --> 00:31:42.085 Recently I was taking an employment law class, 697 00:31:42.255 --> 00:31:45.325 which while I'm not pursuing law, a lot of those concepts 698 00:31:45.325 --> 00:31:46.445 that I learned, I'll be able to 699 00:31:46.555 --> 00:31:47.765 take with me to the workforce. 700 00:31:48.105 --> 00:31:49.925 So that's a just a, those are just a few things 701 00:31:49.925 --> 00:31:51.165 that I love about my major. 702 00:31:52.265 --> 00:31:54.045 Can you share a class or a project 703 00:31:54.105 --> 00:31:56.445 or assignment that made you kind of click in 704 00:31:56.445 --> 00:31:58.405 and say like, oh, I can see myself doing this 705 00:31:58.535 --> 00:31:59.565 after I graduate? 706 00:32:02.085 --> 00:32:05.085 I, I wanna say with my employment law class, I, it's more 707 00:32:05.085 --> 00:32:06.805 so the professor, the professors 708 00:32:06.805 --> 00:32:09.325 who really made me fall in love with that topic and concept. 709 00:32:09.545 --> 00:32:13.045 And so while I can't go into employment law without a law 710 00:32:13.045 --> 00:32:14.485 degree, law degree, um, 711 00:32:14.965 --> 00:32:16.765 I still wanna tap into those areas for sure. 712 00:32:16.865 --> 00:32:19.885 And then I think compensation, taking that course, 713 00:32:19.895 --> 00:32:21.525 which I'm gonna take actually next semester, 714 00:32:21.555 --> 00:32:24.085 just hearing things from the professor in a one-on-one 715 00:32:24.085 --> 00:32:25.965 conversation really sparked me as like, okay, 716 00:32:26.445 --> 00:32:28.405 I like numbers, I wanna go that direction. 717 00:32:28.505 --> 00:32:30.925 So I'm excited to actually take that course next semester. 718 00:32:31.945 --> 00:32:33.685 That's awesome. And Alex, how about you? 719 00:32:33.945 --> 00:32:35.285 Is there a class, a project 720 00:32:35.385 --> 00:32:37.685 or assignment where you're like, oh yeah, I see 721 00:32:37.685 --> 00:32:39.565 how this is going to, I could do 722 00:32:39.565 --> 00:32:40.645 this thing in the real world? 723 00:32:41.595 --> 00:32:45.165 Yeah. Um, actually the intro to biotech class, 724 00:32:45.375 --> 00:32:49.725 funny enough, um, he, the, the professor teaching 725 00:32:49.725 --> 00:32:50.845 that class was actually the head 726 00:32:50.845 --> 00:32:53.205 of the biotechnology department, uh, Dr. 727 00:32:53.235 --> 00:32:55.725 Bollivar, and he's a incredible professor. 728 00:32:56.465 --> 00:32:59.125 Um, and one of the assignments was a weekly 729 00:33:00.745 --> 00:33:04.725 2, 3, 4 page essay about a current, uh, 730 00:33:06.105 --> 00:33:07.845 effect on the market, let's just say. 731 00:33:08.625 --> 00:33:11.605 And because this class was open to anybody, 732 00:33:11.625 --> 00:33:14.005 it wasn't necessarily just STEM majors, it could have been 733 00:33:14.005 --> 00:33:16.245 for Kelley majors 734 00:33:16.245 --> 00:33:18.325 that were interested in the life sciences or whatnot. 735 00:33:18.825 --> 00:33:21.405 Um, it wasn't super science-based. 736 00:33:21.585 --> 00:33:24.325 But what was really amazing about this assignment is 737 00:33:24.325 --> 00:33:28.805 that I could take a product on the market, explain it 738 00:33:29.035 --> 00:33:31.245 through science, through what I enjoy, knowing, 739 00:33:31.555 --> 00:33:32.645 understanding it, 740 00:33:33.225 --> 00:33:36.725 and then explaining why it's been a success on in the 741 00:33:36.725 --> 00:33:40.565 market, why, um, there's a, this, 742 00:33:40.595 --> 00:33:42.365 this has opened new doors down 743 00:33:42.425 --> 00:33:44.125 for other products for other companies. 744 00:33:44.745 --> 00:33:48.285 And genuinely that essay was all about the crossover 745 00:33:48.395 --> 00:33:50.645 between science and and business essentially. 746 00:33:50.705 --> 00:33:53.045 And that really made me understand 747 00:33:53.465 --> 00:33:56.845 how much I enjoyed applying that hard science 748 00:33:57.185 --> 00:33:59.365 to the business world. 749 00:34:00.395 --> 00:34:03.525 When you're thinking about that, Alex, how do you think 750 00:34:03.525 --> 00:34:06.405 as a whole, your major helps you understand business in a 751 00:34:06.405 --> 00:34:07.765 way that feels different, right? 752 00:34:07.825 --> 00:34:10.765 Or even broader than a traditional Yeah. Business path? 753 00:34:12.405 --> 00:34:14.045 Absolutely. So, I mean, there's a couple 754 00:34:14.045 --> 00:34:15.125 different things to that. 755 00:34:15.305 --> 00:34:18.765 Um, typically for my industry, for example, I mean 756 00:34:20.105 --> 00:34:22.085 for, for the pharmaceutical industry, 757 00:34:22.345 --> 00:34:25.805 having a background in science, in bio, you know, 758 00:34:25.805 --> 00:34:30.125 biological biology, um, anything like that is, you know, 759 00:34:30.185 --> 00:34:32.325 self-explanatory and super helpful. 760 00:34:32.465 --> 00:34:34.365 But also biotech 761 00:34:34.945 --> 00:34:37.445 and the STEM degree in general is very analytical. 762 00:34:38.505 --> 00:34:40.965 And if I'm thinking about degrees 763 00:34:41.185 --> 00:34:44.045 or areas such as supply chain, for example, 764 00:34:44.045 --> 00:34:48.205 which is just a super analytical area of, of business, this, 765 00:34:49.825 --> 00:34:52.325 we can easily transfer those soft 766 00:34:52.385 --> 00:34:56.445 and hard skills over from, from biotech, from my degree, 767 00:34:56.795 --> 00:34:59.325 into understanding the supply chain, trying 768 00:34:59.325 --> 00:35:01.045 to fix problems for the supply chain. 769 00:35:01.465 --> 00:35:06.365 And then conversely, the other way around, with a degree 770 00:35:06.985 --> 00:35:11.645 and with other classes, which are not as much of hard, uh, 771 00:35:11.645 --> 00:35:14.645 science such as the intro to biotech class, um, 772 00:35:15.435 --> 00:35:18.045 that really helps for human connections. 773 00:35:18.125 --> 00:35:20.885 I mean, we had a bunch of, in that class we had a bunch of, 774 00:35:21.065 --> 00:35:25.765 uh, group assignments, uh, actual industry projects. 775 00:35:25.785 --> 00:35:27.845 We had a mock debate 776 00:35:28.535 --> 00:35:31.885 about whether a product was ethical or not ethical, 777 00:35:32.385 --> 00:35:34.245 and all of that like 778 00:35:37.375 --> 00:35:39.845 gives you a bunch of soft skills, which then you can go 779 00:35:39.845 --> 00:35:41.405 and apply to sales, which then you can go 780 00:35:41.405 --> 00:35:44.605 and apply to management and then you can go and apply to HR. 781 00:35:45.345 --> 00:35:48.165 Um, and I mean, 782 00:35:48.545 --> 00:35:50.765 that's maybe just just being my side, 783 00:35:50.825 --> 00:35:52.365 but I really do see the value 784 00:35:52.365 --> 00:35:57.245 and the, the breadth, the the breadth of 785 00:35:58.155 --> 00:35:59.845 what my degree teaches me. 786 00:36:00.865 --> 00:36:04.165 And Ashley, as you're wrapping up this part, right, 787 00:36:04.305 --> 00:36:08.245 of your journey, my question for you specifically is 788 00:36:08.945 --> 00:36:10.845 how has being in your major 789 00:36:10.945 --> 00:36:13.885 and with your minor program really changed the way 790 00:36:14.395 --> 00:36:15.485 that you see yourself? 791 00:36:15.675 --> 00:36:18.565 Like as a student, as a professional, as a leader? 792 00:36:18.635 --> 00:36:21.165 Like what have been the things that you've said like, oh, 793 00:36:21.955 --> 00:36:23.725 this is how I have evolved in this way? 794 00:36:24.795 --> 00:36:27.525 Yeah, I think when I was a freshman, I really only thought 795 00:36:27.525 --> 00:36:29.845 of myself as just this one person. 796 00:36:30.085 --> 00:36:31.605 I really didn't think I could expand 797 00:36:31.705 --> 00:36:33.645 or really diversify my portfolio. 798 00:36:34.385 --> 00:36:37.325 But as I've gone through each of my four years, I've really, 799 00:36:37.465 --> 00:36:39.085 one diversified my skillset, 800 00:36:39.305 --> 00:36:40.925 but also just my knowledge 801 00:36:40.925 --> 00:36:43.525 of whether it was in the HR function, even pharmacy area 802 00:36:44.065 --> 00:36:46.605 or even, um, I would say the financial world as well. 803 00:36:46.605 --> 00:36:49.325 Because with my major, I had a lot of room for electives 804 00:36:49.325 --> 00:36:51.085 and I chose to take some Kelley classes, 805 00:36:51.215 --> 00:36:52.845 which is certainly allowed 806 00:36:52.845 --> 00:36:54.325 as a college of art and sciences major. 807 00:36:54.445 --> 00:36:56.485 I took intro to accounting and personal finance. 808 00:36:57.065 --> 00:36:59.925 And so I still got that technical side from a college 809 00:36:59.925 --> 00:37:01.205 of arts and sciences background. 810 00:37:01.345 --> 00:37:04.445 So I'd really say, I think from my four years, 811 00:37:04.515 --> 00:37:06.965 it's being able to diversify my portfolio 812 00:37:07.025 --> 00:37:09.645 and being able to kind articulate how 813 00:37:09.725 --> 00:37:11.325 that's benefited me and showcase that. 814 00:37:12.185 --> 00:37:14.005 Uh, what are the things that you've done. 815 00:37:14.225 --> 00:37:16.365 And I'll ask you this next, Alex, what are the things 816 00:37:16.365 --> 00:37:17.885 that you've done outside of the classroom? 817 00:37:17.915 --> 00:37:20.485 Like what kind of clubs and organizations and 818 00:37:20.745 --> 00:37:22.765 and things have you pursued? 819 00:37:23.025 --> 00:37:25.125 And what I'd be particularly interested in is hearing how 820 00:37:25.125 --> 00:37:27.045 that might have changed from the first year to 821 00:37:27.045 --> 00:37:28.205 where you are right now. 822 00:37:28.915 --> 00:37:31.565 Yeah, well, one of the first extracurriculars I'll talk 823 00:37:31.565 --> 00:37:33.405 about is why I'm able to do this here right now, 824 00:37:33.405 --> 00:37:35.805 being on the panel, I'm a student ambassador for the College 825 00:37:35.805 --> 00:37:37.925 of Art and Sciences, which means I'm able 826 00:37:37.925 --> 00:37:38.965 to give college tours 827 00:37:38.985 --> 00:37:41.485 or be a part of college information sessions 828 00:37:41.485 --> 00:37:43.765 for incoming students or prospective students wanting 829 00:37:43.765 --> 00:37:47.205 to pursue, you know, their college career at IU. 830 00:37:47.485 --> 00:37:49.525 I have had this job since my sophomore year 831 00:37:49.545 --> 00:37:51.205 and it's given me a lot of different opportunities. 832 00:37:51.345 --> 00:37:54.005 So I've loved just having a job on campus through that. 833 00:37:54.425 --> 00:37:56.885 I'd say some of the more other clubs I've been a part of, 834 00:37:57.025 --> 00:38:00.725 one is TEDx here at IU. I call that more of my fun club 835 00:38:00.725 --> 00:38:02.325 where I just get to, I would 836 00:38:02.325 --> 00:38:03.445 say it's not school related at all. 837 00:38:03.525 --> 00:38:04.925 I wanted to enjoy some, I wanted 838 00:38:04.925 --> 00:38:06.205 to be have fun, I would say. 839 00:38:06.305 --> 00:38:07.725 And so that one's cool 840 00:38:07.725 --> 00:38:09.325 because we get a, as students, we get 841 00:38:09.325 --> 00:38:12.045 to bring a TED Talk conference to life on campus. 842 00:38:12.695 --> 00:38:15.925 Other extracurriculars I'm involved in are a professional 843 00:38:16.165 --> 00:38:19.045 business fraternity where I've really been able to learn 844 00:38:19.065 --> 00:38:22.325 and enhance my technical interview and resume skills. 845 00:38:22.945 --> 00:38:25.525 And then, currently right now I'm on the board 846 00:38:25.525 --> 00:38:27.605 for a human resources association club. 847 00:38:28.105 --> 00:38:29.325 I'm the director of membership. 848 00:38:29.385 --> 00:38:32.205 So with that, I never would've thought freshman year I'd be 849 00:38:32.205 --> 00:38:33.805 going into business or HR. 850 00:38:34.225 --> 00:38:37.445 And so it's kind of not false, it's just kind of funny 851 00:38:37.465 --> 00:38:39.925 to see how things work, but I always have been a firm 852 00:38:40.165 --> 00:38:41.125 believer that trust the process, 853 00:38:41.125 --> 00:38:42.445 everything works in the end. 854 00:38:42.545 --> 00:38:46.085 And so I would say that's how my, what I've been involved in 855 00:38:46.085 --> 00:38:47.565 and what's changed throughout my four years. 856 00:38:48.305 --> 00:38:49.765 That's neat. Alex, how about you? 857 00:38:51.195 --> 00:38:54.285 Yeah, actually, well the, the problem here is 858 00:38:54.285 --> 00:38:57.925 that Ashley kind of stole all of my extracurriculars. 859 00:38:58.785 --> 00:39:03.605 Um, so I'm also in our, 860 00:39:03.815 --> 00:39:05.405 we're in the same business fraternity, 861 00:39:05.465 --> 00:39:06.885 the same Kelley fraternity. 862 00:39:06.885 --> 00:39:09.645 That's actually how we met. And then she 863 00:39:10.165 --> 00:39:12.765 actually recommended me for the student ambassador position, 864 00:39:12.765 --> 00:39:13.845 which is also what I am. 865 00:39:14.505 --> 00:39:17.205 And so, without Ashley we wouldn't be here. 866 00:39:17.705 --> 00:39:21.085 But also I agree with everything she said. 867 00:39:21.415 --> 00:39:22.925 Being an ambassador is amazing. 868 00:39:23.265 --> 00:39:26.005 Um, I get to meet so many people, connect with 869 00:39:26.005 --> 00:39:30.645 so many people, and kind of show my side of 870 00:39:31.585 --> 00:39:33.765 my degree, my life at IU and everything. 871 00:39:34.425 --> 00:39:38.405 Um, and then, uh, our, our fraternity is, 872 00:39:38.945 --> 00:39:41.245 has been one of my, the best decisions I've taken 873 00:39:41.505 --> 00:39:46.485 as somebody who aspires to go into to, to business, um, just 874 00:39:48.165 --> 00:39:49.405 'cause I did it freshman year. 875 00:39:49.645 --> 00:39:52.805 I, I didn't have much experience with job recruiting, 876 00:39:53.185 --> 00:39:54.765 resume work, and anything. 877 00:39:55.465 --> 00:39:58.685 Um, and it's really nice to be able to go and, 878 00:39:58.745 --> 00:40:00.485 and meet a bunch of people who are in Kelley. 879 00:40:00.645 --> 00:40:02.805 I mean, Ashley and I are like one 880 00:40:02.805 --> 00:40:06.365 of like 10 people in our fraternity who aren't in Kelley, um, 881 00:40:06.425 --> 00:40:07.885 out of like 150. 882 00:40:08.505 --> 00:40:12.805 Um, and so it's really nice to have to be surrounded 883 00:40:12.805 --> 00:40:15.445 by these people that are in Kelley and in business 884 00:40:15.585 --> 00:40:16.685 and everything. 885 00:40:17.025 --> 00:40:20.485 Um, and then finally the one that actually didn't steal 886 00:40:20.505 --> 00:40:23.845 from me, I'm actually part of, uh, ICMS, 887 00:40:23.845 --> 00:40:26.965 which is intercollegiate, uh, emergency medical services, 888 00:40:27.575 --> 00:40:30.645 which a lot of people do when they want to go into 889 00:40:31.385 --> 00:40:34.125 med school, ea school, nursing. 890 00:40:34.985 --> 00:40:38.365 Um, I just did it for fun that, that can sound kind 891 00:40:38.365 --> 00:40:41.525 of like weird for people like while you, you're doing you, 892 00:40:41.525 --> 00:40:46.445 you know, first aid and you know, all of that for, for fun. 893 00:40:46.585 --> 00:40:50.245 I'm like, yeah, I mean, it's kind of the, the things I like 894 00:40:50.245 --> 00:40:52.965 and there's so many options at IU to join clubs that, 895 00:40:52.965 --> 00:40:54.045 that you really enjoy. 896 00:40:54.905 --> 00:40:58.365 Um, and never would I have thought that I'd be, you know, 897 00:40:58.365 --> 00:40:59.685 working Little Five events 898 00:40:59.785 --> 00:41:03.125 and stuff as, as a in the med tent. 899 00:41:03.585 --> 00:41:04.585 So 900 00:41:04.905 --> 00:41:05.905 That's really great. 901 00:41:06.005 --> 00:41:10.045 I love that. I think what your, your story highlights Alex, 902 00:41:10.145 --> 00:41:12.445 is how powerful networking is, right? 903 00:41:12.445 --> 00:41:14.045 Like, we talk about networking a lot, 904 00:41:14.045 --> 00:41:17.325 like when you're going into the full-time work environment 905 00:41:17.325 --> 00:41:18.325 or an internship environment, 906 00:41:18.325 --> 00:41:22.565 but it happens right here on campus every single day, right? 907 00:41:22.565 --> 00:41:23.925 Like, you find an upper class student 908 00:41:23.945 --> 00:41:25.085 who knows what's going on and you 909 00:41:25.085 --> 00:41:26.245 want to, you want to check with them. 910 00:41:26.825 --> 00:41:28.845 Um, what do you think 911 00:41:29.555 --> 00:41:32.845 Alex, is a myth about like not being in the business school, 912 00:41:32.945 --> 00:41:37.565 school that you would like really wish would go away, right? 913 00:41:40.105 --> 00:41:43.125 The, the number one thing that comes to mind is 914 00:41:43.125 --> 00:41:45.245 that you can't, you can't go into business if 915 00:41:45.245 --> 00:41:46.285 you're not in the business school. 916 00:41:46.905 --> 00:41:51.325 Um, haven't been set on going into business 917 00:41:51.545 --> 00:41:55.365 pretty much the whole time I was applying to college, um, 918 00:41:55.875 --> 00:41:59.645 through until now. I actually applied to a bunch 919 00:41:59.645 --> 00:42:01.125 of business schools back home 920 00:42:01.145 --> 00:42:02.805 and in France and in Europe in general. 921 00:42:03.465 --> 00:42:07.365 Um, and I chose not to go into business school 922 00:42:07.365 --> 00:42:10.405 because I would rather study what I wanted to do. 923 00:42:10.545 --> 00:42:12.525 And because I came to the realization 924 00:42:12.525 --> 00:42:15.165 that you don't need a business degree to go into business. 925 00:42:15.345 --> 00:42:19.165 Mm-hmm. Now does a finance degree help with 926 00:42:20.565 --> 00:42:23.845 economics degree help with studying for the, the CFA 927 00:42:23.945 --> 00:42:27.045 or studying for the, the CPA or anything like that? 928 00:42:27.305 --> 00:42:28.645 Of course. Um, 929 00:42:28.785 --> 00:42:31.205 but I have a friend, for example, who's also in the College 930 00:42:31.205 --> 00:42:34.685 of Arts and Sciences who is a environmental science 931 00:42:34.785 --> 00:42:36.165 really major, I believe. 932 00:42:36.345 --> 00:42:38.405 And he's self-studying for the CPA. 933 00:42:39.025 --> 00:42:43.005 So, or for the CFA, um, thing stops you. 934 00:42:43.145 --> 00:42:44.925 That's a big myth that I hear everybody 935 00:42:45.305 --> 00:42:47.485 or that I hear decently often. 936 00:42:48.265 --> 00:42:53.165 Um, it's all about being able to apply those skills 937 00:42:53.165 --> 00:42:54.725 that you're learning in your degree 938 00:42:55.265 --> 00:42:57.365 to whatever industry you want to go into 939 00:42:57.665 --> 00:42:59.485 or whatever industry you end up in. 940 00:43:00.105 --> 00:43:02.445 Um, and so that's the first thing that comes to mind. 941 00:43:03.185 --> 00:43:05.885 Ashley, is there any myth that you'd like to bust? 942 00:43:07.805 --> 00:43:10.845 I feel like Alex definitely kinda wrapped the bow on that, 943 00:43:10.865 --> 00:43:15.725 but I think, I think another myth would be that you don't, 944 00:43:16.365 --> 00:43:19.685 I maybe not a myth, it's that with a liberal arts degree, 945 00:43:19.705 --> 00:43:22.685 you can't get technical skills, I would say, 946 00:43:22.685 --> 00:43:25.045 and I wanna definitely debunk that 947 00:43:25.045 --> 00:43:27.165 because certainly you can, I mean the college offers, 948 00:43:27.345 --> 00:43:30.245 so many of those, um, like one-on-one resources 949 00:43:30.245 --> 00:43:32.365 where you can one, enhance your interviews 950 00:43:32.505 --> 00:43:35.205 or how to articulate yourself and showcase your value. 951 00:43:35.745 --> 00:43:38.405 Um, I think it's, the issue is that you never know 952 00:43:38.405 --> 00:43:39.685 what resources are available. 953 00:43:39.785 --> 00:43:43.885 So it's really your job to one, pursue the initiative 954 00:43:43.905 --> 00:43:45.925 to actually find those, but once you do, you're able 955 00:43:45.925 --> 00:43:47.885 to leverage them to your benefit and really get 956 00:43:47.885 --> 00:43:50.805 that technical skill and pursue a degree in business if you 957 00:43:50.805 --> 00:43:53.405 choose to or pursue a degree with a college of art 958 00:43:53.405 --> 00:43:55.445 and sciences and the business field if you choose 959 00:43:55.465 --> 00:43:56.465 so. 960 00:43:56.765 --> 00:44:00.565 Absolutely. Well, my closing question for each of you is 961 00:44:00.955 --> 00:44:02.965 what advice, and Ashley you could start, 962 00:44:03.035 --> 00:44:05.445 what advice would you give students about making the most 963 00:44:05.445 --> 00:44:08.365 of a major that they didn't originally intend to pursue? 964 00:44:09.765 --> 00:44:12.605 I have learned from, honestly, my first semester 965 00:44:12.605 --> 00:44:15.125 that college does not have to be a linear experience. 966 00:44:15.515 --> 00:44:17.485 When I first came to IU, I thought I had to stick 967 00:44:17.485 --> 00:44:20.125 to this one major that if I switched it, I wouldn't be able 968 00:44:20.125 --> 00:44:21.405 to graduate within four years. 969 00:44:21.665 --> 00:44:24.245 But I was fortunately wrong on that. 970 00:44:24.425 --> 00:44:27.645 Um, after I switched my major, I was able to see how one, 971 00:44:27.685 --> 00:44:28.845 I can still graduate on time, 972 00:44:28.905 --> 00:44:32.885 but then also, really pursue my own way, kind 973 00:44:32.885 --> 00:44:33.925 of do the backdoor of business, 974 00:44:33.925 --> 00:44:34.965 which I really have been loving. 975 00:44:35.035 --> 00:44:37.925 It's who I am, it's what my pa what I'm passionate about. 976 00:44:38.305 --> 00:44:40.885 And so I'd say that's, that was my little, uh, 977 00:44:40.885 --> 00:44:42.085 piece of advice I would give. 978 00:44:42.665 --> 00:44:44.205 That's great. Alex, how about you? 979 00:44:46.035 --> 00:44:49.295 Um, I have a, a couple pieces of advice. 980 00:44:49.625 --> 00:44:54.015 First of all, whatever degree you take, you're gonna have a bunch 981 00:44:54.015 --> 00:44:57.815 of opportunities to diversify your knowledge, 982 00:44:57.965 --> 00:44:59.975 your interests, anything. 983 00:45:00.215 --> 00:45:04.255 I mean, even within the college, we have call C, which is, 984 00:45:04.255 --> 00:45:06.095 you know, critical approaches. 985 00:45:06.835 --> 00:45:09.375 Um, we have to take a certain amount of breadth 986 00:45:09.375 --> 00:45:12.975 of inquiry credits, which means just credits about anything 987 00:45:12.975 --> 00:45:15.015 that you're not studying essentially. 988 00:45:15.555 --> 00:45:19.815 Um, and I think that if you are able to take advantage 989 00:45:19.915 --> 00:45:24.055 of those classes and really learn about new things 990 00:45:24.365 --> 00:45:27.415 that you may not even know of, I mean, you know, 991 00:45:27.415 --> 00:45:30.015 you could add a minor in, in anything 992 00:45:30.015 --> 00:45:33.095 that you're even interested in and take advantage of that 993 00:45:33.095 --> 00:45:36.415 because that's something that's a tool that we have 994 00:45:36.715 --> 00:45:37.895 as students, um, 995 00:45:37.895 --> 00:45:40.255 that I think not enough people take advantage of 996 00:45:40.275 --> 00:45:41.815 and it's just so beneficial. 997 00:45:42.515 --> 00:45:45.895 And then my second piece of advice is less centralized on 998 00:45:45.895 --> 00:45:47.695 the college and more on IU as a whole. 999 00:45:48.555 --> 00:45:51.975 But you know, your life isn't going 1000 00:45:51.975 --> 00:45:55.255 to end if it's not the degree you exactly want. 1001 00:45:55.595 --> 00:45:58.695 You're still in the same place you are in general. 1002 00:45:58.695 --> 00:46:00.255 Nothing is gonna change really. 1003 00:46:00.875 --> 00:46:04.695 Um, just enjoy your, your college student life 1004 00:46:05.045 --> 00:46:07.015 with all the tools that IU gives you. 1005 00:46:07.635 --> 00:46:11.575 Um, you know, go to all of the clubs, the hundreds of clubs 1006 00:46:11.605 --> 00:46:15.215 that there are, um, minors in every other school 1007 00:46:15.215 --> 00:46:19.055 that you want, uh, have a double major, I don't know. 1008 00:46:19.055 --> 00:46:20.535 But there's so many tools 1009 00:46:21.115 --> 00:46:24.535 and I think that's kind of the recurring theme, uh, is that 1010 00:46:25.075 --> 00:46:27.575 IU just gives you and the college just give you a lot of 1011 00:46:28.125 --> 00:46:31.415 opportunities that just sometimes you just need to seize 1012 00:46:31.475 --> 00:46:32.895 and take, take the first leap.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.125 --> 00:00:04.375 Well, one of the things that I think is intimidating 2 00:00:04.375 --> 00:00:07.775 for students, maybe right outta the gate, is that the, the, 3 00:00:07.855 --> 00:00:11.495 A student might maybe know what computer science is, (Anna Bednarski) mm-hmm. 4 00:00:11.795 --> 00:00:13.815 But data science and informatics, they're like, 5 00:00:13.845 --> 00:00:15.295 what am I actually gonna do with this? 6 00:00:15.405 --> 00:00:17.495 Like, what is this field 7 00:00:17.955 --> 00:00:19.735 and how does it intersect in business? 8 00:00:20.035 --> 00:00:21.335 Can you talk a little bit about that? 9 00:00:22.275 --> 00:00:23.615 Yes, absolutely. Yeah. 10 00:00:23.915 --> 00:00:26.335 Um, so it's interesting that you say that, that students, 11 00:00:26.475 --> 00:00:28.495 uh, maybe kind of know what computer science is 12 00:00:28.495 --> 00:00:31.975 because, uh, sometimes we find that they don't, um, 13 00:00:32.025 --> 00:00:34.535 maybe have an accurate, uh, uh, feel 14 00:00:34.535 --> 00:00:35.655 for what computer science is. 15 00:00:36.235 --> 00:00:39.015 So, um, the, the Luddy School, uh, 16 00:00:39.075 --> 00:00:41.615 offers four different Bachelor's of Science degrees 17 00:00:42.035 --> 00:00:43.775 and one that's, uh, affiliated 18 00:00:43.805 --> 00:00:45.575 with us in the College of Arts and Sciences. 19 00:00:45.875 --> 00:00:48.215 Um, the two biggest ones are computer Science 20 00:00:48.355 --> 00:00:49.375 and informatics. 21 00:00:49.795 --> 00:00:52.855 Um, now many students have heard of computer science, um, 22 00:00:53.155 --> 00:00:54.735 but I like to start with computer science 23 00:00:54.735 --> 00:00:56.055 because it's a common term, 24 00:00:56.435 --> 00:00:58.815 and it is the part of technology 25 00:00:58.845 --> 00:01:01.455 that really focuses on the tech itself. 26 00:01:01.915 --> 00:01:04.135 So if you wanna know how a computer thinks, 27 00:01:04.515 --> 00:01:07.295 how it can be secured, um, how, what kinds 28 00:01:07.295 --> 00:01:10.015 of things it can do, or how it can be programmed, um, 29 00:01:10.615 --> 00:01:12.175 computer science is, is good for that. 30 00:01:12.515 --> 00:01:16.175 Um, students who may be enjoy more technical work, um, 31 00:01:16.445 --> 00:01:18.655 they might, um, be okay 32 00:01:18.655 --> 00:01:21.455 with taking a few math classes like calculus and, 33 00:01:21.475 --> 00:01:23.615 and beyond that, um, not that you have 34 00:01:23.615 --> 00:01:25.055 to be a super math major, 35 00:01:25.235 --> 00:01:27.095 but, uh, you know, they'd just be 36 00:01:27.095 --> 00:01:28.295 comfortable taking a few classes. 37 00:01:28.955 --> 00:01:32.615 Um, and then these, uh, students who do computer science, 38 00:01:33.195 --> 00:01:35.615 um, they can often go into technical roles, 39 00:01:35.875 --> 00:01:38.335 so things like software engineering. 40 00:01:38.555 --> 00:01:41.015 Um, we, um, also have a lot of students 41 00:01:41.015 --> 00:01:44.055 who are interested in finance and fintech. 42 00:01:44.555 --> 00:01:47.455 So if you are interested in finance within business, 43 00:01:47.595 --> 00:01:49.175 and you really wanna know like, 44 00:01:49.195 --> 00:01:51.535 how those algorithms actually work and, 45 00:01:51.675 --> 00:01:53.415 and how the computer's thinking about it 46 00:01:53.435 --> 00:01:55.215 and making decisions, um, 47 00:01:55.975 --> 00:01:59.055 computer science can give you a real deep dive into 48 00:01:59.055 --> 00:02:01.735 that kind of machine learning and artificial intelligence. 49 00:02:02.755 --> 00:02:05.855 So, yes, I would say computer science is, um, 50 00:02:05.915 --> 00:02:09.375 on the more technical side of things, uh, informatics, um, 51 00:02:09.675 --> 00:02:12.335 it still includes some tech skills, 52 00:02:12.555 --> 00:02:15.815 and obviously you're dealing with, um, technology, 53 00:02:16.155 --> 00:02:20.535 but you're also seeing how people in technology interact. 54 00:02:21.075 --> 00:02:25.975 So informaticists, um, they can help businesses to decide, 55 00:02:26.115 --> 00:02:28.615 you know, what kind of technology is good for us. 56 00:02:29.355 --> 00:02:30.695 Um, many, uh, 57 00:02:30.695 --> 00:02:32.375 informatic students are interested in tech 58 00:02:32.375 --> 00:02:33.855 consulting for that reason. 59 00:02:34.515 --> 00:02:36.655 Um, we also have informatic students 60 00:02:36.715 --> 00:02:39.535 who are interested in data that maybe they, um, 61 00:02:39.555 --> 00:02:43.175 aren't doing the kind of deep, um, statistical 62 00:02:43.275 --> 00:02:45.295 and the modeling kinds of things, 63 00:02:45.435 --> 00:02:48.495 but they wanna be able to work with data to visualize 64 00:02:48.515 --> 00:02:49.535 and communicate data. 65 00:02:49.915 --> 00:02:51.935 Um, informaticists can do things like that. 66 00:02:52.075 --> 00:02:56.095 So for instance, um, if you are, um, into marketing 67 00:02:56.355 --> 00:02:59.485 and you wanna, uh, get into the marketing analytics 68 00:02:59.945 --> 00:03:03.085 of your company, um, I think informatics could help you 69 00:03:03.085 --> 00:03:04.325 with some skills for that. 70 00:03:04.865 --> 00:03:08.325 Um, informatics also would include things like tech design 71 00:03:09.025 --> 00:03:12.045 and, um, website and apps and app design. 72 00:03:12.585 --> 00:03:15.405 So, um, if you were interested in the user experience 73 00:03:15.405 --> 00:03:19.005 of technology, we, we have students who will work for, um, 74 00:03:19.235 --> 00:03:21.405 tech companies, but they're working with the users 75 00:03:21.505 --> 00:03:23.805 and kind of doing testing of, you know, 76 00:03:23.805 --> 00:03:25.285 does this website feature work? 77 00:03:25.355 --> 00:03:26.805 Does this app work for people? 78 00:03:27.345 --> 00:03:30.205 Um, so, so yeah, it's a really interesting area for those, 79 00:03:30.305 --> 00:03:32.565 um, uh, people who are maybe more creative 80 00:03:32.745 --> 00:03:36.485 or might maybe interested in working with people a lot. 81 00:03:36.625 --> 00:03:38.165 Um, although I do, 82 00:03:38.485 --> 00:03:40.565 I do get the concern from some Kelley students 83 00:03:40.565 --> 00:03:45.045 that computer science, um, might not, uh, allow them 84 00:03:45.105 --> 00:03:47.245 to work with people as much as they maybe like. 85 00:03:47.665 --> 00:03:50.685 Um, and I think that that computer scientists, um, 86 00:03:50.795 --> 00:03:53.845 will always be working in teams and working with colleagues, 87 00:03:54.145 --> 00:03:56.325 and sometimes they can be working with clients as well. 88 00:03:56.465 --> 00:03:59.645 So it just kind of depends on how much you really want 89 00:03:59.645 --> 00:04:01.325 to incorporate that into your career. 90 00:04:01.905 --> 00:04:03.965 Um, so yeah, those are our two biggest computer 91 00:04:03.965 --> 00:04:05.125 science and informatics. 92 00:04:05.585 --> 00:04:09.085 And, um, you know, I, I often say with informatics is, 93 00:04:09.365 --> 00:04:11.645 I think of it as the, uh, the, you know, 94 00:04:11.645 --> 00:04:14.325 Thanksgiving break problem if you're sort of going home 95 00:04:14.345 --> 00:04:15.405 for Thanksgiving break, 96 00:04:15.505 --> 00:04:18.405 and you have to explain to your family what your major is 97 00:04:18.405 --> 00:04:19.405 and what you're gonna do with it. 98 00:04:19.825 --> 00:04:23.805 Um, informatics is kind of a, a, a word that is confusing, 99 00:04:24.305 --> 00:04:27.005 but, uh, ultimately, you know, you are working 100 00:04:27.005 --> 00:04:28.085 with tech and people. 101 00:04:29.265 --> 00:04:30.685 That's so great. 102 00:04:30.825 --> 00:04:33.965 And I'm actually learning some really good things from just 103 00:04:33.965 --> 00:04:35.005 listening to you right now. 104 00:04:35.025 --> 00:04:38.165 So thank you. When, one of the common questions 105 00:04:38.165 --> 00:04:40.725 that I get from students is, okay, 106 00:04:40.905 --> 00:04:42.765 if I change my major right now, 107 00:04:43.105 --> 00:04:44.805 or if I'm even exploring this 108 00:04:45.005 --> 00:04:46.125 semester, am I gonna be behind? 109 00:04:46.635 --> 00:04:48.165 Like, what should I do? 110 00:04:48.385 --> 00:04:49.405 And how do I decide 111 00:04:49.405 --> 00:04:53.125 between taking an informatics class versus taking the next 112 00:04:53.125 --> 00:04:56.125 class in data science, you know? (Anna Bednarski) Mm-hmm. 113 00:04:56.305 --> 00:04:59.645 Mm-hmm. And that, that is a common question, you know, 114 00:05:00.025 --> 00:05:03.645 and, and I would say, um, if you're in your first year, 115 00:05:03.865 --> 00:05:06.805 you know, if maybe you are exploring during that first year, 116 00:05:07.425 --> 00:05:10.645 um, for most of the degrees, you would be fine. 117 00:05:11.185 --> 00:05:14.405 Um, engineering, uh, would be the exception to that. 118 00:05:14.465 --> 00:05:17.285 But engineering has a lot of different requirements to it. 119 00:05:17.665 --> 00:05:19.645 Um, engineering is, uh, 120 00:05:19.645 --> 00:05:22.285 pretty much the hands-on creation of technology. 121 00:05:22.345 --> 00:05:25.205 So if you're interested in, you know, robotics and, 122 00:05:25.385 --> 00:05:28.565 and actually making an understanding how the sensors 123 00:05:28.565 --> 00:05:32.565 and other things in intelligent technology work, um, that's, 124 00:05:32.565 --> 00:05:34.445 that's what our engineering program is about. 125 00:05:34.865 --> 00:05:39.245 And because it has so many requirements, um, if you are, um, 126 00:05:39.785 --> 00:05:40.925 you know, not starting 127 00:05:40.955 --> 00:05:42.805 that pretty heavily within your first year, 128 00:05:42.805 --> 00:05:45.325 you can run into issues graduating in four years. 129 00:05:45.385 --> 00:05:47.005 Mm-hmm. Otherwise, you know, 130 00:05:47.005 --> 00:05:50.365 if you're within your first year, um, then, um, 131 00:05:51.425 --> 00:05:53.085 the programs are generally doable. 132 00:05:53.305 --> 00:05:54.565 Um, computer science 133 00:05:54.585 --> 00:05:58.645 and science have many, um, technical courses 134 00:05:58.835 --> 00:06:00.645 that you wouldn't necessarily be able 135 00:06:00.645 --> 00:06:02.405 to stack up in one semester. 136 00:06:03.025 --> 00:06:05.845 So, um, you know, if you are thinking of those areas, it's, 137 00:06:05.875 --> 00:06:09.605 it's good to kind of decide on that, um, as soon as you can, 138 00:06:10.185 --> 00:06:11.725 um, particularly if you're getting closer 139 00:06:11.725 --> 00:06:15.205 to your sophomore year, uh, that, that can, um, start 140 00:06:15.265 --> 00:06:17.365 to involve some summer classes or, or, 141 00:06:17.505 --> 00:06:19.645 or other, um, you know, work to catch up. 142 00:06:20.145 --> 00:06:23.965 Um, one thing that I found that can help students decide 143 00:06:25.105 --> 00:06:29.365 is, um, the math question. Um, with all 144 00:06:29.365 --> 00:06:31.605 of the degrees except informatics, um, 145 00:06:32.025 --> 00:06:33.765 the math requirements starts 146 00:06:33.885 --> 00:06:36.765 with Calculus 211 and goes from there. 147 00:06:37.305 --> 00:06:39.325 So if you can envision yourself doing that, 148 00:06:39.345 --> 00:06:42.165 or if you can envision yourself preparing with pre-calculus 149 00:06:42.225 --> 00:06:44.005 and doing that, then that's awesome. 150 00:06:44.465 --> 00:06:47.045 Um, if you, but if you hear about, you know, calculus 151 00:06:47.065 --> 00:06:49.165 and you're like, I totally, I don't even wanna walk into 152 00:06:49.165 --> 00:06:50.845 that classroom, um, you know, 153 00:06:51.005 --> 00:06:53.885 'cause I mean, many of our students enjoy it, uh, 154 00:06:53.885 --> 00:06:55.165 but some have strong feelings, 155 00:06:55.225 --> 00:06:58.565 and if not, uh, then, then informatics, um, 156 00:06:58.665 --> 00:07:00.125 you will just need to complete your 157 00:07:00.125 --> 00:07:01.605 math modeling course mm-hmm. 158 00:07:01.705 --> 00:07:04.565 Uh, that everybody at IU completes and, and that's it. 159 00:07:04.585 --> 00:07:06.925 So sometimes that helps students make the decision 160 00:07:07.425 --> 00:07:08.485 of which one to do. 161 00:07:09.265 --> 00:07:11.845 Um, and then if you're still undecided, uh, 162 00:07:11.845 --> 00:07:14.565 the good news is, is that some of the beginning courses 163 00:07:15.195 --> 00:07:16.765 will count in multiple degrees. 164 00:07:17.305 --> 00:07:20.005 So informatics I101 can count in computer 165 00:07:20.005 --> 00:07:21.645 science and informatics. 166 00:07:22.025 --> 00:07:25.605 Um, computer science C200 can count in informatics, 167 00:07:25.845 --> 00:07:27.045 computer science, and data science. 168 00:07:27.545 --> 00:07:29.245 So even if you take that first class 169 00:07:29.305 --> 00:07:31.245 and you're like, hmm, maybe I wanna pivot, 170 00:07:31.985 --> 00:07:34.285 you can apply it in any of those degrees. 171 00:07:34.995 --> 00:07:37.325 Okay. That's super helpful to know. 172 00:07:37.585 --> 00:07:40.845 So in the math B110 mm-hmm. 173 00:07:40.925 --> 00:07:42.965 That some of these students might have taken in the fall 174 00:07:43.525 --> 00:07:45.005 semester, that could work 175 00:07:45.065 --> 00:07:46.925 for the informatics degree, correct? 176 00:07:47.825 --> 00:07:49.245 Yes. That is math modeling. 177 00:07:49.505 --> 00:07:53.125 Um, so that would be the only math class that is necessary. 178 00:07:53.265 --> 00:07:55.285 Um, there is a statistics class that you take, 179 00:07:55.345 --> 00:07:58.925 but that could be, um, across any different department. 180 00:07:58.925 --> 00:08:01.485 There's a lot of different options in psychology 181 00:08:01.625 --> 00:08:02.965 and O'Neill and criminal justice. 182 00:08:03.065 --> 00:08:06.525 So, so yes. The only math course that, in that case, 183 00:08:06.545 --> 00:08:08.005 if you've taken the B110, 184 00:08:08.005 --> 00:08:09.845 that will work for informatics. 185 00:08:11.195 --> 00:08:15.445 When you, in your experience, what kind of students tend 186 00:08:15.445 --> 00:08:16.525 to thrive in Luddy, 187 00:08:16.715 --> 00:08:18.605 even if they didn't originally see 188 00:08:18.605 --> 00:08:19.965 themselves as tech people? 189 00:08:21.235 --> 00:08:22.925 Yeah. Well, I, I mean, I think the, the, 190 00:08:22.985 --> 00:08:25.885 the first part is, um, you know, understanding 191 00:08:25.885 --> 00:08:28.765 that anyone could potentially be a tech person. 192 00:08:28.985 --> 00:08:31.365 You know, we have a lot of different flavors of tech here. 193 00:08:31.745 --> 00:08:35.525 Um, I always joke with, uh, my students in, in my class 194 00:08:35.555 --> 00:08:38.605 that, you know, there's this stereotype of the, you know, 195 00:08:38.605 --> 00:08:40.485 the, the introvert who is just in front 196 00:08:40.485 --> 00:08:43.085 of the computer all day at the end of the hall, you know, 197 00:08:43.235 --> 00:08:44.765 with, you know, just kind 198 00:08:44.765 --> 00:08:46.485 of not interacting with people all the time. 199 00:08:46.945 --> 00:08:49.565 And, you know, again, it really doesn't have to be that way. 200 00:08:49.825 --> 00:08:52.405 Um, tech is a lot of times what you make of it. 201 00:08:52.865 --> 00:08:56.685 Um, that said, uh, there are some, uh, 202 00:08:56.845 --> 00:08:58.445 quantitative kinds of courses. 203 00:08:58.945 --> 00:09:01.885 Um, I think one of the main things is that you would, um, 204 00:09:01.975 --> 00:09:04.485 wanna be comfortable being a self-starter. 205 00:09:04.905 --> 00:09:08.325 Um, I, I, a lot of our students are interested in, um, 206 00:09:08.945 --> 00:09:11.005 you know, trying their own projects 207 00:09:11.005 --> 00:09:12.645 or maybe getting on LinkedIn Learning 208 00:09:12.705 --> 00:09:14.165 and learning a new tech skill. 209 00:09:14.575 --> 00:09:16.165 Maybe they've made their own website 210 00:09:16.265 --> 00:09:18.325 or, um, some even have, you know, 211 00:09:18.395 --> 00:09:20.005 side businesses or things like that. 212 00:09:20.145 --> 00:09:23.205 You know, I think that they're generally curious about 213 00:09:23.205 --> 00:09:26.205 technology and they, and they're not afraid to try it out. 214 00:09:26.665 --> 00:09:30.885 Um, so, so that I think would make, um, that would make, uh, 215 00:09:31.085 --> 00:09:33.405 students successful in Luddy. 216 00:09:33.625 --> 00:09:35.365 Um, it, that's a good sign. You know. 217 00:09:35.625 --> 00:09:39.045 Um, I will also say too, um, for, for informatics, um, 218 00:09:39.355 --> 00:09:42.805 strangely, I see a lot of students who have enjoyed K201, 219 00:09:42.865 --> 00:09:44.965 and they enjoy some of the, you know, kind 220 00:09:44.965 --> 00:09:47.525 of results driven work you can get from K201. 221 00:09:47.745 --> 00:09:49.645 So if you've taken K201 222 00:09:49.645 --> 00:09:52.445 and you kind of like, you know, the things that, the skills 223 00:09:52.445 --> 00:09:55.685 that you're picking up in there, um, I think, um, 224 00:09:55.915 --> 00:09:57.965 informatics can be a, a good choice. 225 00:09:58.385 --> 00:10:00.805 Um, many of our students enjoy just being able 226 00:10:00.805 --> 00:10:02.565 to make something and show it to people. 227 00:10:02.785 --> 00:10:05.885 Um, and that's, that's very, um, gratifying for them. 228 00:10:06.145 --> 00:10:07.145 So, yeah. 229 00:10:08.155 --> 00:10:11.525 When you look at ways to specialize, you know, 230 00:10:11.525 --> 00:10:13.325 Kelley has four different minors 231 00:10:13.465 --> 00:10:15.085 and four different certificate programs 232 00:10:15.235 --> 00:10:16.405 that students can pursue, 233 00:10:16.825 --> 00:10:18.525 but I know that there are also some levels 234 00:10:18.545 --> 00:10:21.845 of specialization even within the degree programs mm-hmm. 235 00:10:21.925 --> 00:10:23.405 at Luddy. Could you talk a little bit about those? 236 00:10:24.705 --> 00:10:27.845 Yes. Um, actually all of our degrees have, um, 237 00:10:28.065 --> 00:10:32.445 or require a, a spec, uh, an area of specialization, um, 238 00:10:32.545 --> 00:10:36.565 any informatics, uh, that can be, uh, choosing any minor 239 00:10:37.105 --> 00:10:38.885 or any, uh, certificate. 240 00:10:39.385 --> 00:10:41.605 So, um, you know, if you've taken some Kelley courses 241 00:10:41.665 --> 00:10:43.365 and you're thinking, Hey, I would really love 242 00:10:43.365 --> 00:10:44.885 to do the business minor, um, 243 00:10:44.915 --> 00:10:47.805 that can be your required minor for the informatics major. 244 00:10:47.865 --> 00:10:50.405 So it's kind of handy. You could use maybe some 245 00:10:50.405 --> 00:10:52.205 of the classes you've taken, uh, toward 246 00:10:52.205 --> 00:10:53.685 that informatics requirement. 247 00:10:54.145 --> 00:10:56.205 Um, for computer science, data science 248 00:10:56.305 --> 00:10:59.765 and intelligence systems engineering, they have, um, 249 00:10:59.945 --> 00:11:01.765 specialization areas built in, 250 00:11:01.785 --> 00:11:04.365 or concentration areas built in, um, 251 00:11:04.425 --> 00:11:05.965 for different kinds of topics. 252 00:11:06.345 --> 00:11:09.125 Um, I know in computer science, um, one 253 00:11:09.125 --> 00:11:11.885 of the popular specialization areas is artificial 254 00:11:11.885 --> 00:11:16.085 intelligence, which is a big, um, area of business. 255 00:11:16.345 --> 00:11:19.365 Uh, so we see students specialize in that. 256 00:11:19.425 --> 00:11:23.405 Um, there are also, um, uh, areas like software engineering, 257 00:11:23.495 --> 00:11:26.045 which is very much about, you know, sort of the production. 258 00:11:26.065 --> 00:11:28.405 And, you know, again, that can be very, uh, 259 00:11:28.685 --> 00:11:30.565 business oriented if you, if that's the area 260 00:11:30.565 --> 00:11:31.725 of business you wanna get into. 261 00:11:32.265 --> 00:11:34.285 Um, data science, uh, same thing. 262 00:11:34.285 --> 00:11:36.245 We, we have, uh, data science students 263 00:11:36.265 --> 00:11:38.165 who are interested in healthcare, 264 00:11:38.225 --> 00:11:39.485 and so they'll do a biological 265 00:11:39.545 --> 00:11:43.845 and health, uh, uh, specialization, um, you know, any, 266 00:11:44.025 --> 00:11:48.285 any way, all the way to, um, you know, data visualization 267 00:11:48.465 --> 00:11:51.525 and, and those kinds of like general business skills that, 268 00:11:51.525 --> 00:11:53.365 that you might use in data science. 269 00:11:54.025 --> 00:11:55.405 So, yeah. Yeah. 270 00:11:55.505 --> 00:11:57.885 You, you get to, you get to kind of pick, um, you don't have 271 00:11:57.885 --> 00:11:59.565 to pick right away if you're not sure. 272 00:11:59.785 --> 00:12:02.765 Um, you can get into the major courses a little bit and, 273 00:12:02.785 --> 00:12:04.885 and then see which area fits you. 274 00:12:05.585 --> 00:12:10.285 That's great. I'm wondering too, you know, what 275 00:12:10.835 --> 00:12:13.005 kind of career services does Luddy have? 276 00:12:13.035 --> 00:12:15.525 Like, how does that position students 277 00:12:15.665 --> 00:12:16.845 for what they're going to do? 278 00:12:17.005 --> 00:12:19.325 I mean, I know that the Handshake platform 279 00:12:19.425 --> 00:12:21.205 and all the jobs that are posted are open 280 00:12:21.205 --> 00:12:23.085 to every single student at IU (Anna Bednarski) mm-hmm. 281 00:12:23.165 --> 00:12:24.605 And that the career fairs are all open, 282 00:12:24.785 --> 00:12:26.165 and I actually noticed that the Kelley, 283 00:12:26.305 --> 00:12:29.565 the Luddy Career Center has a lot of the same kinds 284 00:12:29.725 --> 00:12:32.525 of programs that I see the Kelley Career Center posting. 285 00:12:32.665 --> 00:12:34.645 Mm-hmm. Um, but how does that work? 286 00:12:34.715 --> 00:12:36.285 Like how do students access that? 287 00:12:37.315 --> 00:12:41.045 Yeah, so, um, the, um, I mean, uh, again, 288 00:12:41.045 --> 00:12:42.045 as you mentioned, you know, 289 00:12:42.045 --> 00:12:45.045 fortunately there are career services in every school at IU, 290 00:12:45.465 --> 00:12:47.925 and, you know, Kelley's career services are fabulous, 291 00:12:48.025 --> 00:12:50.005 but, you know, if I can say so myself, 292 00:12:50.205 --> 00:12:52.765 I think Luddy's career services are fabulous as well. 293 00:12:53.265 --> 00:12:56.605 And as long as you are a Luddy, uh, major or minor, 294 00:12:57.225 --> 00:12:59.725 or, um, if you've taken even six credit hours 295 00:12:59.725 --> 00:13:03.405 of Luddy classes, you can access Luddy Career Services. 296 00:13:03.945 --> 00:13:05.485 And we do many of the same things 297 00:13:05.545 --> 00:13:07.365 as every other career services office, 298 00:13:07.465 --> 00:13:09.245 so you can make in-person appointments. 299 00:13:09.785 --> 00:13:12.565 Um, we have career fairs twice a year. 300 00:13:13.025 --> 00:13:15.805 Um, we have, um, on campus interviewing, 301 00:13:15.825 --> 00:13:18.085 and we have, um, uh, you know, online 302 00:13:18.105 --> 00:13:20.005 and in-person events with employers, 303 00:13:20.385 --> 00:13:23.485 and many of the employers are similar, um, to the ones 304 00:13:23.755 --> 00:13:25.245 that you might see in Kelley. 305 00:13:25.665 --> 00:13:26.685 Um, you know, we have some 306 00:13:26.685 --> 00:13:29.765 of the big consulting firms like EY and PwC. 307 00:13:30.505 --> 00:13:34.685 Um, we have, um, insurance companies like, uh, you know, 308 00:13:34.685 --> 00:13:36.365 Liberty, Liberty Mutual is a big one. 309 00:13:36.865 --> 00:13:41.205 Um, we have, um, you know, certain, uh, tech companies, 310 00:13:41.205 --> 00:13:45.125 of course, um, we have financial services, uh, you know, 311 00:13:45.405 --> 00:13:48.405 companies like Discover and MasterCard, so Yeah. 312 00:13:48.505 --> 00:13:50.925 And even governmental and, and security. 313 00:13:51.225 --> 00:13:53.805 Um, and that would be, um, so we we're affiliated 314 00:13:53.805 --> 00:13:56.125 with the cybersecurity and global policy degree in the 315 00:13:56.125 --> 00:13:57.125 College of Arts and Sciences, 316 00:13:57.125 --> 00:13:59.085 and so we serve those students as well. 317 00:13:59.625 --> 00:14:02.765 Um, but yeah, yeah, we even have, you know, Goldman Sachs, 318 00:14:02.825 --> 00:14:05.965 and, you know, all, all of the big companies, um, uh, 319 00:14:06.025 --> 00:14:08.925 our students have been known, uh, to work with. So, yeah, 320 00:14:09.085 --> 00:14:11.045 I, I always tell students, I say, you know, 321 00:14:11.045 --> 00:14:13.245 when the rubber meets the road, right? 322 00:14:13.245 --> 00:14:14.605 When it comes down to the very end, 323 00:14:14.665 --> 00:14:17.565 the employer wants the best employee, they're really, 324 00:14:17.565 --> 00:14:18.725 that's what they're really looking at. 325 00:14:18.785 --> 00:14:21.765 And so the, the challenge for students is to make sure 326 00:14:21.765 --> 00:14:23.565 that they're accumulating the kinds of clubs 327 00:14:23.665 --> 00:14:25.805 and student organizations and experiences. 328 00:14:26.215 --> 00:14:28.845 (Anna Bednarski) Right. And, and I'm kind of interested, you know, 329 00:14:29.025 --> 00:14:30.645 what's the typical pattern 330 00:14:30.865 --> 00:14:32.965 for internships for Luddy students? 331 00:14:33.035 --> 00:14:34.085 Like when do they do them 332 00:14:34.385 --> 00:14:36.045 and how does that happen? That sort of thing. 333 00:14:36.875 --> 00:14:39.965 Yeah. Well, so, uh, many students, I mean, 334 00:14:40.175 --> 00:14:43.805 internship is kind of a, it's, it, it, it's, uh, there's, 335 00:14:43.805 --> 00:14:46.045 there's a lot of different types of internships, 336 00:14:46.425 --> 00:14:49.405 but if we're thinking about the typical, you know, full-time 337 00:14:49.425 --> 00:14:53.125 or almost full-time summer internship, um, we have a lot 338 00:14:53.125 --> 00:14:56.125 of students who will do that in their junior summer, uh, 339 00:14:56.225 --> 00:14:59.365 before their senior year, um, in, uh, 340 00:14:59.595 --> 00:15:02.285 certain programs like informatics and data science. 341 00:15:02.665 --> 00:15:05.085 Um, there are requirements that you do a capstone project. 342 00:15:05.225 --> 00:15:08.725 And so if your internship is sufficiently technical, um, 343 00:15:08.865 --> 00:15:11.925 you can ask before you start the internship to see whether 344 00:15:11.925 --> 00:15:13.445 that could count as your capstone work. 345 00:15:13.445 --> 00:15:15.405 Otherwise, we have a class for that. 346 00:15:15.785 --> 00:15:18.805 Um, but yeah, the junior internship, um, is a, 347 00:15:18.805 --> 00:15:20.045 is a pretty typical thing. 348 00:15:20.465 --> 00:15:22.885 Um, however, um, fortunately we've noticed 349 00:15:22.885 --> 00:15:26.245 that some employers are also interested in early 350 00:15:26.245 --> 00:15:28.285 career, uh, programs. 351 00:15:28.785 --> 00:15:33.325 Um, so for instance, um, EY uh, we, we have lots of students 352 00:15:33.345 --> 00:15:35.325 who are interested in their early career program 353 00:15:35.775 --> 00:15:38.165 where they might, uh, do something as sophomores 354 00:15:38.165 --> 00:15:40.125 or they might get, um, you know, introduced 355 00:15:40.125 --> 00:15:41.205 to the company that way. 356 00:15:41.705 --> 00:15:42.805 So, yeah. And, 357 00:15:42.905 --> 00:15:45.245 and of course, with tech, I mean, there's all sorts 358 00:15:45.245 --> 00:15:47.085 of different ways to do, you know, 359 00:15:47.155 --> 00:15:49.045 part-time jobs and internships. 360 00:15:49.325 --> 00:15:51.005 I mean, um, we have, uh, 361 00:15:51.365 --> 00:15:54.045 UITS here on campus employs our students. 362 00:15:54.185 --> 00:15:55.565 Um, the Center for Excellence 363 00:15:55.565 --> 00:15:58.205 for Women in Technology has internships, um, 364 00:15:58.205 --> 00:15:59.445 that some of our students do. 365 00:15:59.505 --> 00:16:02.285 So, uh, there's all sorts of ways to get experience as well. 366 00:16:02.705 --> 00:16:05.685 Um, but yeah, yeah, that's, that's kind of, um, 367 00:16:05.685 --> 00:16:07.245 what the typical landscape looks like. 368 00:16:07.305 --> 00:16:10.085 And, um, our career services has actually put together some 369 00:16:10.085 --> 00:16:11.885 information, you know, when you meet with them, 370 00:16:11.915 --> 00:16:14.485 that if you say, you know, Hey, I'm a first year student, 371 00:16:14.825 --> 00:16:16.765 you know, I'm, I'm kind of thinking of 372 00:16:16.765 --> 00:16:19.085 how I wanna spend my summer, and what are your suggestions? 373 00:16:19.425 --> 00:16:20.725 And they can help you out with that. 374 00:16:21.425 --> 00:16:24.085 That's great. So I, that's really helpful. 375 00:16:24.605 --> 00:16:27.085 I would imagine you mentioned the Capstone experience, 376 00:16:27.085 --> 00:16:29.485 but I would imagine that some of the courses have projects 377 00:16:29.485 --> 00:16:32.405 built in that are pretty hands-on anyway. 378 00:16:32.505 --> 00:16:34.845 Can you think of a specific example of one of those 379 00:16:34.875 --> 00:16:37.005 that you're like, oh, no, this is really cool, you need to 380 00:16:38.435 --> 00:16:39.435 Very much. Yes. So, 381 00:16:39.435 --> 00:16:42.765 so, uh, for instance, with Informatics, um, they, 382 00:16:42.985 --> 00:16:45.205 uh, have a year long capstone course. 383 00:16:45.905 --> 00:16:49.485 Uh, and so at the end of the year, um, usually in April, 384 00:16:49.715 --> 00:16:51.485 they have a poster session for that. 385 00:16:51.745 --> 00:16:53.765 Um, and anyone can go and see it. 386 00:16:53.825 --> 00:16:55.725 But I've, I've, uh, visited a few times 387 00:16:55.985 --> 00:16:59.005 and students have created apps, um, everything from, 388 00:16:59.505 --> 00:17:03.605 you know, apps to help, uh, children in hospitals stay, 389 00:17:03.985 --> 00:17:06.125 you know, uh, uh, occupied 390 00:17:06.225 --> 00:17:09.965 and happy, you know, to, you know, apps to help me know, um, 391 00:17:09.965 --> 00:17:11.645 when the gym's open, you know, 392 00:17:11.645 --> 00:17:13.005 like all, all sorts of different things. 393 00:17:13.065 --> 00:17:14.925 So, um, you know, there are those kinds of things. 394 00:17:15.025 --> 00:17:18.005 Um, we also have a strong support for 395 00:17:18.885 --> 00:17:19.885 entrepreneurship in the school. 396 00:17:19.985 --> 00:17:22.045 So I've talked to a lot of students who have, 397 00:17:22.195 --> 00:17:23.965 they've just sort of come up with their own ideas, 398 00:17:24.105 --> 00:17:25.605 not necessarily as part of the class, 399 00:17:25.865 --> 00:17:28.365 but just something they've wanted to make themselves. 400 00:17:28.425 --> 00:17:32.205 And so we have, um, organizations, uh, for entrepreneurship 401 00:17:32.205 --> 00:17:35.445 that maybe you can find, um, different people to help you 402 00:17:35.445 --> 00:17:37.605 with that, or maybe some support for that. 403 00:17:37.865 --> 00:17:41.125 So, um, of, of course, yeah, again, other, other courses, 404 00:17:41.345 --> 00:17:44.245 you know, we have, um, you know, courses in computer science 405 00:17:44.245 --> 00:17:45.685 where I've seen, uh, some 406 00:17:45.685 --> 00:17:47.645 of the artificial intelligence projects 407 00:17:47.645 --> 00:17:50.525 where they're making, uh, games, uh, or, 408 00:17:50.585 --> 00:17:51.965 or guessing games, you know, 409 00:17:51.965 --> 00:17:55.005 to see whether maybe an AI can do better than a human could. 410 00:17:55.585 --> 00:17:58.805 Um, our engineering 101 course is super fun 411 00:17:58.905 --> 00:18:03.125 and works with local schools to make educational games, uh, 412 00:18:03.125 --> 00:18:05.005 for students in K through 12 schools. 413 00:18:05.625 --> 00:18:06.725 Um, so that's really fun. 414 00:18:07.025 --> 00:18:10.645 Um, we also have an in-house, uh, tech clinic 415 00:18:10.795 --> 00:18:14.005 that students work in, um, that helps local nonprofits. 416 00:18:14.005 --> 00:18:15.725 And so, um, you know, we've had them work 417 00:18:15.725 --> 00:18:17.085 with maybe the Boys and Girls Club 418 00:18:17.185 --> 00:18:21.605 or the, um, you know, the, uh, the Humane Society to, uh, 419 00:18:21.675 --> 00:18:22.805 make websites or, 420 00:18:22.805 --> 00:18:25.565 or different other, um, kinds of supports that they need. 421 00:18:26.265 --> 00:18:28.325 Um, so yeah, there's all sorts of different kind 422 00:18:28.325 --> 00:18:30.085 of group projects you can get involved in. 423 00:18:30.385 --> 00:18:32.445 Um, you can also get involved in just research, 424 00:18:32.445 --> 00:18:34.885 individual research in some of our professor's labs. 425 00:18:35.025 --> 00:18:37.725 So, lots, lots of different ways to work with people. 426 00:18:38.185 --> 00:18:40.925 That's really cool. What, what's one myth 427 00:18:41.235 --> 00:18:45.485 that you think students have about the Luddy school 428 00:18:45.875 --> 00:18:47.965 that you're like, man, if I could just tell all the 429 00:18:48.085 --> 00:18:50.005 students, like, this thing is a myth, 430 00:18:50.005 --> 00:18:51.725 this is not true, what would it be? 431 00:18:53.475 --> 00:18:55.725 Well, gosh, I can, I can think of two of them. 432 00:18:55.945 --> 00:19:00.605 Um, the first one is that, um, oh, if I'm not a math genius, 433 00:19:00.635 --> 00:19:02.285 there's no place for me in tech. 434 00:19:03.025 --> 00:19:04.365 Um, and that's not true. 435 00:19:04.665 --> 00:19:08.125 Um, you know, everyone has a math requirement at IU. 436 00:19:08.465 --> 00:19:11.125 Um, but depending on what it is that you hope to study, 437 00:19:11.145 --> 00:19:14.085 you don't necessarily need to be a, a, um, you know, 438 00:19:14.235 --> 00:19:15.445 into math that much. 439 00:19:16.105 --> 00:19:21.085 Um, I also, um, am always, um, you know, 440 00:19:21.245 --> 00:19:22.765 a little disappointed when I see a student 441 00:19:22.785 --> 00:19:24.005 who feels intimidated 442 00:19:24.005 --> 00:19:25.965 that there's not a place in tech for them. 443 00:19:26.665 --> 00:19:28.805 Um, because one thing that I've learned being 444 00:19:28.805 --> 00:19:31.965 around this school is that there's so many different ways 445 00:19:32.065 --> 00:19:33.325 to get involved in tech. 446 00:19:33.505 --> 00:19:35.405 Um, you know, tech is everywhere. 447 00:19:35.625 --> 00:19:37.685 Uh, tech is gonna be used, you know, no matter 448 00:19:37.685 --> 00:19:38.965 what your major's gonna be, no matter 449 00:19:38.965 --> 00:19:40.085 what your career is gonna be. 450 00:19:40.425 --> 00:19:41.725 Um, tech is a part of it. 451 00:19:41.945 --> 00:19:43.845 So, um, I hope 452 00:19:43.845 --> 00:19:47.245 that students don't shy away from doing Luddy courses 453 00:19:47.425 --> 00:19:49.125 or thinking about Luddy as an option just 454 00:19:49.125 --> 00:19:50.765 because they feel like they're not techy enough, 455 00:19:50.785 --> 00:19:53.365 or they, they haven't had experience yet, you know, 456 00:19:53.365 --> 00:19:55.845 that you, uh, you know, maybe you would've had to learn 457 00:19:55.845 --> 00:19:57.245 to program in high school 458 00:19:57.345 --> 00:20:00.485 or take courses in, in high school to do this. 459 00:20:00.985 --> 00:20:02.805 Um, everyone has to start somewhere. 460 00:20:03.425 --> 00:20:06.085 And so, you know, that's what I meant by, you know, 461 00:20:06.085 --> 00:20:08.805 being a self-starter and being willing to just try it. 462 00:20:09.185 --> 00:20:12.285 Um, that's, that's, uh, what I hope everyone will feel free 463 00:20:12.285 --> 00:20:14.205 to do if, if, if they're kind of interested, you know, 464 00:20:14.205 --> 00:20:17.805 if you've ever, if you've ever been on a website, even like, 465 00:20:17.805 --> 00:20:19.445 oh, I would've done it this way, you know, 466 00:20:19.445 --> 00:20:21.805 or if you've ever thought of an app idea that, Hey, 467 00:20:21.865 --> 00:20:24.045 why doesn't someone make an app that does this? 468 00:20:24.585 --> 00:20:27.205 Um, you could do that. You could do that. 469 00:20:27.945 --> 00:20:30.285 That's awesome. And I really appreciate that. 470 00:20:30.475 --> 00:20:31.725 Well, I wanna go ahead 471 00:20:32.025 --> 00:20:36.725 and give folks an opportunity to ask some of those, uh, 472 00:20:37.165 --> 00:20:38.205 questions that they might have. 473 00:20:38.585 --> 00:20:40.725 And so if you all could drop those into the chat, 474 00:20:40.795 --> 00:20:42.405 that would be super helpful to me. 475 00:20:42.665 --> 00:20:44.525 Or you can simply raise your hand 476 00:20:44.545 --> 00:20:46.205 and I'll call on you to ask the question. 477 00:20:46.205 --> 00:20:49.765 That's just fine. While folks are putting those questions 478 00:20:50.045 --> 00:20:54.325 together, we don't know what future jobs 479 00:20:54.465 --> 00:20:56.445 and future work worlds are gonna look like. 480 00:20:57.275 --> 00:20:59.165 What is it about the Luddy programs 481 00:20:59.475 --> 00:21:01.565 that make those students future proof? 482 00:21:02.145 --> 00:21:06.285 Mm-hmm. Well, one of the things that I think, um, 483 00:21:06.555 --> 00:21:08.325 that makes the programs future proof, 484 00:21:08.325 --> 00:21:09.605 and this is coming from things 485 00:21:09.605 --> 00:21:13.645 that I've heard our faculty say, um, is that, um, you know, 486 00:21:13.645 --> 00:21:15.685 there are a lot of different ways to learn tech, 487 00:21:15.745 --> 00:21:19.205 and I think some people will, um, you know, just sort 488 00:21:19.205 --> 00:21:22.365 of learn certain skills and say, okay, I'm, I'm ready. 489 00:21:22.665 --> 00:21:23.725 I'm ready for a career. 490 00:21:24.305 --> 00:21:28.285 Um, what Luddy's philosophy is, is that we're gonna teach you 491 00:21:28.905 --> 00:21:30.765 how to keep learning. 492 00:21:31.145 --> 00:21:32.885 Um, because tech changes all the time, 493 00:21:33.195 --> 00:21:36.085 tech will change even within the time that you're at IU. 494 00:21:36.505 --> 00:21:39.605 So we want you to be able to, to roll with those changes 495 00:21:40.065 --> 00:21:42.405 and, um, learn for your entire career. 496 00:21:43.025 --> 00:21:45.325 Um, the nice thing is, is that some of the skills 497 00:21:45.325 --> 00:21:48.165 that you will learn, um, are very, uh, 498 00:21:48.765 --> 00:21:50.125 quantifiable on your resume. 499 00:21:50.385 --> 00:21:52.685 And you can say, you know, yes, I have worked 500 00:21:52.685 --> 00:21:57.325 with this technology, um, yes, that makes me capable of, um, 501 00:21:57.685 --> 00:21:58.805 learning this new technology 502 00:21:58.805 --> 00:22:00.925 because it's very similar to what I did here. 503 00:22:01.385 --> 00:22:04.845 Um, so, so yeah, I think it, it opens up a way of thinking, 504 00:22:05.265 --> 00:22:07.365 um, that allows you, uh, to, 505 00:22:07.425 --> 00:22:08.885 to be valuable in the workplace. 506 00:22:09.785 --> 00:22:13.245 That's really great. So I haven't seen any questions come 507 00:22:13.305 --> 00:22:14.445 in to the chat yet. 508 00:22:14.475 --> 00:22:15.805 Does anyone have any that they want 509 00:22:15.805 --> 00:22:18.765 to ask in person, uh, while we're here? 510 00:22:20.025 --> 00:22:23.125 Hey, this is Shrenik. Um, hey Anna. 511 00:22:23.385 --> 00:22:28.045 Um, just want to, um, we have attended yesterday, um, 512 00:22:28.275 --> 00:22:30.805 another, another program as well yesterday, 513 00:22:30.805 --> 00:22:32.205 that economics mm-hmm. 514 00:22:32.305 --> 00:22:34.405 Uh, that this one where they were, 515 00:22:34.475 --> 00:22:37.685 they were showcasing some kind of a slide in which, what, 516 00:22:37.715 --> 00:22:39.445 what are the courses and 517 00:22:39.445 --> 00:22:41.165 what are the majors and minors in that one. 518 00:22:41.425 --> 00:22:43.885 Mm-hmm. Do you have some kind of a slide similar to, 519 00:22:43.885 --> 00:22:45.925 for these programs, what you're explaining? 520 00:22:46.705 --> 00:22:48.685 We actually don't have a slide prepared for this, 521 00:22:48.685 --> 00:22:50.445 that I'm aware of mm-hmm. 522 00:22:50.745 --> 00:22:55.205 Shrenik, but we do have some amazing handouts, um, that Anna 523 00:22:55.225 --> 00:22:57.925 and her team provided to me earlier. 524 00:22:58.225 --> 00:23:01.645 And so I'm gonna drop my email address in here, 525 00:23:02.105 --> 00:23:04.965 and if you wanna just send me a quick email, 526 00:23:05.365 --> 00:23:07.365 I can attach those and send them to you. 527 00:23:08.435 --> 00:23:09.325 That will be great help. 528 00:23:09.555 --> 00:23:10.845 That will be great help, thank you. 529 00:23:11.085 --> 00:23:13.445 Absolutely. Yeah, really appreciate. We have the 530 00:23:13.485 --> 00:23:16.485 handouts for each one of the degrees, uh, that kind 531 00:23:16.485 --> 00:23:19.365 of show the basics, and then we have a comparison handout, 532 00:23:19.905 --> 00:23:22.205 uh, of, of all five. So, yes. 533 00:23:22.875 --> 00:23:25.525 Okay. And from my side, 534 00:23:25.525 --> 00:23:27.845 definitely my daughter is there as well. 535 00:23:28.065 --> 00:23:31.125 Uh, she actually, uh, is is also listening. 536 00:23:31.125 --> 00:23:32.365 Definitely she will ask a question, 537 00:23:32.385 --> 00:23:35.685 but, uh, currently she's in a pre-business 538 00:23:35.855 --> 00:23:37.165 where she picked up the school 539 00:23:37.225 --> 00:23:39.685 and she wanted to go into the finance as a major, 540 00:23:39.945 --> 00:23:44.085 and then the data was, data analytics was a minor. 541 00:23:44.225 --> 00:23:46.685 She was earlier we were preparing for. Mm-hmm. 542 00:23:46.785 --> 00:23:50.405 So if we have to go from that, that same direction, 543 00:23:50.405 --> 00:23:54.005 if you wanted to perceive, um, what will be the, 544 00:23:54.315 --> 00:23:58.925 what will be the, uh, best approach from your perspective, 545 00:23:59.025 --> 00:24:01.365 if you are to go in that direction, then which, which, 546 00:24:01.365 --> 00:24:02.845 which is, which is the right way 547 00:24:02.845 --> 00:24:04.045 to do it? That's my question. 548 00:24:04.995 --> 00:24:06.525 Yeah, that's a, that's a great question. 549 00:24:06.705 --> 00:24:09.645 And, um, so there are probably two 550 00:24:09.645 --> 00:24:10.845 different ways you could go. 551 00:24:11.345 --> 00:24:15.445 Um, you could go with the informatics major, um, 552 00:24:15.665 --> 00:24:18.405 or you could go with computer science or, or data science. 553 00:24:18.665 --> 00:24:20.125 And the reason I put those together is 554 00:24:20.125 --> 00:24:24.285 that they start the same way, um, with, uh, you know, 555 00:24:24.285 --> 00:24:25.725 your basic programming course, 556 00:24:25.755 --> 00:24:28.125 your C200 Programming and Python. 557 00:24:28.705 --> 00:24:29.845 Um, so the computer science 558 00:24:29.865 --> 00:24:32.285 and data science is going to get very technical. 559 00:24:32.345 --> 00:24:36.125 That's gonna give you, um, the, the, the background 560 00:24:36.225 --> 00:24:37.605 behind how the tech works. 561 00:24:37.785 --> 00:24:40.405 So if you're interested in finance and, 562 00:24:40.425 --> 00:24:43.485 and kind of truly understanding how, you know, again, 563 00:24:43.485 --> 00:24:45.365 how trading algorithms work and, and, 564 00:24:45.365 --> 00:24:46.925 and all of the nitty gritty of that, 565 00:24:47.105 --> 00:24:49.005 or taking large groups of data 566 00:24:49.385 --> 00:24:52.445 and making sense of it, um, those computer science 567 00:24:52.445 --> 00:24:54.805 or data science would be a good way to, to do that. 568 00:24:55.265 --> 00:24:57.205 Um, informatics, um, you, 569 00:24:57.465 --> 00:25:01.245 and you can do a data science, uh, minor with informatics, 570 00:25:01.245 --> 00:25:03.245 if you know, or computer science if you want, 571 00:25:03.505 --> 00:25:04.805 if you want a little bit of that. 572 00:25:04.905 --> 00:25:06.685 But, but wanna focus on informatics. 573 00:25:07.145 --> 00:25:11.045 Um, informatics would, um, you know, probably be more, 574 00:25:11.265 --> 00:25:12.765 you know, of the consulting side 575 00:25:12.785 --> 00:25:17.205 or sort of basic, you know, data, um, a visuals, uh, 576 00:25:17.205 --> 00:25:18.605 visualization of working with, 577 00:25:18.605 --> 00:25:19.845 you know, kind of general data. 578 00:25:20.465 --> 00:25:23.325 Um, the other thing is that with, with finance, um, 579 00:25:23.625 --> 00:25:26.285 you know, it just depends on what kind of role that you want 580 00:25:26.345 --> 00:25:27.365 to, to be in. 581 00:25:27.985 --> 00:25:31.205 So, um, yeah, I mean, whether you're in the, you know, 582 00:25:31.205 --> 00:25:33.285 marketing of your financial institution, 583 00:25:33.285 --> 00:25:35.325 whether you're just, um, actually in the, 584 00:25:35.325 --> 00:25:36.965 the trading and finance part. 585 00:25:37.105 --> 00:25:41.325 Um, but, but yeah, I think informatics would be, um, great, 586 00:25:41.325 --> 00:25:46.005 particularly if, um, you're doing some, um, you know, skills 587 00:25:46.225 --> 00:25:49.125 and, and networking outside of, of what you do in class. 588 00:25:51.285 --> 00:25:52.895 Good. Thank you. Mm-hmm. 589 00:25:52.895 --> 00:25:54.975 Really appreciate the insight here. Yeah. 590 00:25:56.115 --> 00:25:57.255 And as, and, 591 00:25:57.395 --> 00:26:01.215 and as just, um, the last question, uh, 592 00:26:01.265 --> 00:26:03.775 maybe definitely people will have more questions, 593 00:26:03.915 --> 00:26:08.295 but, uh, um, uh, my, another question is like, uh, if I have 594 00:26:08.295 --> 00:26:11.055 to, um, get the degree, like in degree wise, 595 00:26:11.315 --> 00:26:15.215 we will be getting as a, uh, uh, like 596 00:26:16.155 --> 00:26:17.255 is it a Kelley business? 597 00:26:17.255 --> 00:26:21.215 Like this is a, this is a, a Luddy business school? 598 00:26:21.235 --> 00:26:22.335 Or how is that, what is the, 599 00:26:22.335 --> 00:26:24.255 what is the degree which we'll be getting it end of? 600 00:26:24.885 --> 00:26:26.815 Yeah, so this is the, the Luddy School, 601 00:26:26.815 --> 00:26:28.455 just like Kelley is the School of Business, 602 00:26:28.825 --> 00:26:30.455 Luddy is the School of the Informatics, 603 00:26:30.455 --> 00:26:31.495 Computing and Engineering. 604 00:26:31.595 --> 00:26:34.255 So, you know, we're, we're a different school, um, 605 00:26:34.555 --> 00:26:37.455 but students are, um, able to do, for instance, 606 00:26:37.975 --> 00:26:40.135 a Kelley Minor and add it to their degree. 607 00:26:40.235 --> 00:26:42.735 So if, um, you know, many of our Luddy students, 608 00:26:42.735 --> 00:26:45.125 they're still interested in taking some Kelley courses 609 00:26:45.265 --> 00:26:46.325 and getting that background. 610 00:26:46.385 --> 00:26:50.165 And so, um, yeah, we will have, we will have students get a, 611 00:26:50.865 --> 00:26:53.165 uh, degree, for instance, in informatics 612 00:26:53.585 --> 00:26:56.245 and then have the Kelley minor with it. 613 00:26:56.305 --> 00:26:57.685 Uh, but it, but it would be coming from the 614 00:26:57.735 --> 00:26:58.765 Luddy School, yes. 615 00:27:00.805 --> 00:27:04.255 Okay. School. Okay. That's fine. 616 00:27:04.635 --> 00:27:07.055 Um, that's the question I had. 617 00:27:07.675 --> 00:27:09.815 Uh, y do you have anything from your side? 618 00:27:13.865 --> 00:27:16.105 I, I also, Oh, go ahead Anna. I'm 619 00:27:16.115 --> 00:27:17.115 Sorry. Sorry. Uh, just very 620 00:27:17.115 --> 00:27:18.545 quickly, I, I wanted to mention that, 621 00:27:18.645 --> 00:27:22.065 um, you know, if students are interested in, um, 622 00:27:22.155 --> 00:27:26.705 other Kelley credentials, uh, we, uh, definitely have a path 623 00:27:26.925 --> 00:27:31.745 to, um, uh, students being able to, um, 624 00:27:32.565 --> 00:27:36.265 uh, get a, uh, master's degree in Kelley. 625 00:27:36.725 --> 00:27:39.905 Um, so, uh, students may do a Master's of Science 626 00:27:39.925 --> 00:27:43.505 and Information Systems, uh, or, you know, accounting 627 00:27:43.525 --> 00:27:46.385 or finance, um, you know, we have different, uh, 628 00:27:46.525 --> 00:27:48.825 we have a lot of students who are considering that as well. 629 00:27:49.125 --> 00:27:50.705 So, um, you know, just 630 00:27:50.705 --> 00:27:52.745 because you get the undergraduate from Luddy, um, 631 00:27:52.805 --> 00:27:54.705 you can still consider going on 632 00:27:54.705 --> 00:27:56.625 and getting a graduate degree from the Kelley school. 633 00:27:58.085 --> 00:28:01.585 (Shrenik Randive) Got it. And is there any, any kind of, uh, uh, 634 00:28:02.425 --> 00:28:04.505 priority will be given to the, to the students? 635 00:28:04.845 --> 00:28:09.625 How is that like, uh, like being in a Luddy school of business, 636 00:28:09.625 --> 00:28:12.665 whether they, they get some kind of like, like may, 637 00:28:12.665 --> 00:28:17.225 may get some kind of a, uh, what I can say, uh, maybe in the 638 00:28:17.795 --> 00:28:19.665 first in the queue kind of things, you know? 639 00:28:20.615 --> 00:28:23.345 Yeah, I, um, I don't think it's exactly like that, 640 00:28:23.525 --> 00:28:26.385 but, uh, for instance, with, uh, the Master's of Science 641 00:28:26.405 --> 00:28:29.825 and Information Systems, uh, there is an accelerated program 642 00:28:29.835 --> 00:28:32.545 where students can get that master's in one year 643 00:28:32.715 --> 00:28:34.865 after graduating with the undergrad. 644 00:28:35.405 --> 00:28:38.785 Um, and, and so, uh, Kelley has partnered with Luddy 645 00:28:39.045 --> 00:28:42.145 to specifically have, um, a path to do that 646 00:28:42.445 --> 00:28:44.225 for informatics, for computer science students. 647 00:28:44.295 --> 00:28:46.945 They, they, um, so, you know, they still have 648 00:28:46.945 --> 00:28:48.985 to meet certain requirements and they have to apply 649 00:28:48.985 --> 00:28:51.985 and everything, but, uh, they, yes, they, they've made sort 650 00:28:51.985 --> 00:28:54.065 of a quicker way for students to get the master's. 651 00:28:55.165 --> 00:28:58.945 And they're actually is a upcoming, uh, open house 652 00:28:59.125 --> 00:29:02.225 for the Kelley Masters programs taking place on January 21st. 653 00:29:02.485 --> 00:29:05.865 And so I'll drop, uh, the information about 654 00:29:06.005 --> 00:29:07.145 how to register for that. 655 00:29:07.405 --> 00:29:09.305 The website will say that it's just for the MS 656 00:29:09.305 --> 00:29:12.145 in management, but you're actually enrolling in a, 657 00:29:12.145 --> 00:29:15.225 you're registering for a program that is gonna cover all 658 00:29:15.225 --> 00:29:17.225 of the different master's programs. 659 00:29:17.225 --> 00:29:18.145 So I'll drop that in there.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.115 --> 00:00:02.335 And turn it right over to you, Trenten, so 2 00:00:02.335 --> 00:00:04.255 that you can share some of this information with students. 3 00:00:04.845 --> 00:00:08.015 Yeah. Um, so as we're kind of navigating this, everyone, 4 00:00:08.195 --> 00:00:10.535 um, I'm gonna be really just navigating Handshake 5 00:00:10.765 --> 00:00:11.975 Live as we do it. 6 00:00:12.315 --> 00:00:15.095 Um, so please forgive me if there's some brief moments, um, 7 00:00:15.235 --> 00:00:17.335 um, of loading or I might ask, uh, 8 00:00:17.335 --> 00:00:18.575 for some input in the chat. 9 00:00:19.075 --> 00:00:20.255 Uh, which case, uh, 10 00:00:20.255 --> 00:00:23.495 Megan can give me some feedback about your own thoughts on 11 00:00:23.495 --> 00:00:25.455 different questions, uh, so I can really make this 12 00:00:25.455 --> 00:00:26.895 as tailored for you all as possible. 13 00:00:27.475 --> 00:00:29.255 Um, so one of the big things I think 14 00:00:29.255 --> 00:00:31.215 that we should really make sure on the same pages is 15 00:00:31.215 --> 00:00:32.695 like, why Handshake? 16 00:00:32.915 --> 00:00:34.855 Uh, there are so many different 17 00:00:35.715 --> 00:00:38.175 career-oriented platforms in the world. 18 00:00:38.675 --> 00:00:40.895 Um, LinkedIn is a great one 19 00:00:40.915 --> 00:00:43.095 and one we'll probably talk a little bit more about today. 20 00:00:43.595 --> 00:00:46.135 Um, indeed you have specialized industry 21 00:00:46.235 --> 00:00:47.295 job boards, et cetera. 22 00:00:47.315 --> 00:00:49.295 So like why start at LinkedIn? 23 00:00:49.435 --> 00:00:51.055 Uh, or excuse me, why start at Handshake? 24 00:00:51.355 --> 00:00:53.415 Uh, and really what we know is that 25 00:00:53.925 --> 00:00:58.855 Handshake is really designed specifically for you. 26 00:00:59.355 --> 00:01:01.695 Um, it is designed to be student friendly, 27 00:01:01.835 --> 00:01:03.815 and so there are over a million 28 00:01:04.175 --> 00:01:05.695 employers specifically on Handshake. 29 00:01:06.035 --> 00:01:08.495 Uh, and so when we talk to recruiters 30 00:01:08.495 --> 00:01:11.415 and employers about where do they want to go for internship 31 00:01:11.795 --> 00:01:15.735 and entry level job placement, this is typically going 32 00:01:15.735 --> 00:01:17.695 to be, uh, the bread and butter of that. 33 00:01:17.755 --> 00:01:19.775 So I would really recommend starting 34 00:01:19.775 --> 00:01:20.855 where the employers are. 35 00:01:21.235 --> 00:01:23.175 Uh, and so you are to a benefit here. 36 00:01:23.875 --> 00:01:27.295 And one of the reasons I think why, uh, I it's so impactful 37 00:01:27.325 --> 00:01:30.415 that IU Bloomington utilizes Handshake is 38 00:01:30.415 --> 00:01:32.375 that when we really look at the data, uh, 39 00:01:32.375 --> 00:01:36.055 because we know that so many of us, uh, start on LinkedIn, 40 00:01:36.055 --> 00:01:39.535 right, when we're trying to start finding jobs, 41 00:01:39.725 --> 00:01:42.255 finding opportunities, finding internships, 42 00:01:42.675 --> 00:01:45.375 and sometimes you have to really have, well, 43 00:01:45.375 --> 00:01:47.535 it seems like a, a really well-developed network in order 44 00:01:47.535 --> 00:01:49.895 to navigate LinkedIn, especially easy. 45 00:01:50.555 --> 00:01:53.335 Um, and Handshake kind of flips that a little bit. 46 00:01:53.355 --> 00:01:56.255 You don't need as strong of a network just to get started. 47 00:01:56.755 --> 00:01:58.735 And the data's telling us that when you apply 48 00:01:58.735 --> 00:02:01.335 to an internship or a job on LinkedIn, 49 00:02:01.965 --> 00:02:04.935 sometimes the success rate, the data showing can be as low 50 00:02:04.935 --> 00:02:05.935 as 2% 51 00:02:06.195 --> 00:02:08.375 or some, some data says it could be even lower, 52 00:02:08.375 --> 00:02:09.415 as close as 1%. 53 00:02:09.715 --> 00:02:12.415 So I would really recommend, um, as a career coach 54 00:02:12.435 --> 00:02:14.775 for business retail and tech to say, if you're looking 55 00:02:14.775 --> 00:02:16.815 for opportunities, if you are looking for jobs, 56 00:02:17.035 --> 00:02:18.855 if you are looking for internships 57 00:02:18.915 --> 00:02:20.975 and you are an IU Bloomington student, 58 00:02:21.655 --> 00:02:23.615 I would exhaust Handshake first and foremost 59 00:02:23.715 --> 00:02:24.895 before going anywhere else. 60 00:02:24.895 --> 00:02:26.495 And I'll tell you a little bit, here's how I would do it. 61 00:02:27.275 --> 00:02:31.495 Um, so for any of you that want to join, this is probably 62 00:02:31.845 --> 00:02:33.735 what your page looks like when you come in 63 00:02:33.735 --> 00:02:35.775 and maybe it's not as tailored to you specifically. 64 00:02:36.235 --> 00:02:38.895 Um, so one thing I would probably recommend, um, 65 00:02:39.235 --> 00:02:41.935 is adding some things to a profile mainly so 66 00:02:41.935 --> 00:02:44.735 that the Handshake algorithm knows what are you here for, 67 00:02:45.365 --> 00:02:47.575 what are your goals and what are you after? 68 00:02:47.955 --> 00:02:49.815 And so it can really fine tune to, 69 00:02:49.995 --> 00:02:51.655 to connect you the opportunities that 70 00:02:52.215 --> 00:02:54.535 probably are gonna connect with those ambitions the most. 71 00:02:55.315 --> 00:02:58.775 Um, some easy things that might help is, one, I find 72 00:02:58.775 --> 00:03:01.445 that you really don't have to have a really 73 00:03:01.965 --> 00:03:04.445 strongly developed profile in order to do it. 74 00:03:04.825 --> 00:03:06.205 Um, you guys might see mine 75 00:03:06.205 --> 00:03:08.245 and it's extremely underdeveloped. 76 00:03:08.665 --> 00:03:09.845 Um, for right now. 77 00:03:10.025 --> 00:03:11.165 Uh, for one, some things 78 00:03:11.165 --> 00:03:12.525 to keep in mind as we talk through this. 79 00:03:12.545 --> 00:03:13.845 One, I'm not looking for a job 80 00:03:13.985 --> 00:03:15.285 and I'm not looking for an internship. 81 00:03:15.665 --> 00:03:19.885 And so I've actually intentionally bare boned my entire 82 00:03:19.885 --> 00:03:21.205 profile to almost nothing. 83 00:03:21.785 --> 00:03:26.405 And I'm still getting messages from recruiters constantly 84 00:03:26.405 --> 00:03:29.805 being like, hi, can, are you looking for a job? 85 00:03:29.905 --> 00:03:32.285 JPMorganChase, uh, something about Epic. 86 00:03:32.785 --> 00:03:35.925 Uh, and so what that means is at the end of the day, 87 00:03:36.395 --> 00:03:37.565 your profile's not everything, 88 00:03:38.305 --> 00:03:40.845 but here are some minor things I probably would consider 89 00:03:41.625 --> 00:03:44.485 one, I would probably put a headshot on here. 90 00:03:44.985 --> 00:03:48.445 Um, really data is showing that, at least according 91 00:03:48.465 --> 00:03:51.565 to LinkedIn, when you have a professional headshot 92 00:03:51.835 --> 00:03:53.525 that gives the impression that you, 93 00:03:53.665 --> 00:03:55.565 you appear like at least three things. 94 00:03:55.825 --> 00:03:59.725 One, approachable, uh, friendly and professional. 95 00:04:00.305 --> 00:04:03.525 And so we wanna make sure we hit multiple of those. 96 00:04:03.805 --> 00:04:05.725 'cause sometimes our photos, they look friendly 97 00:04:05.785 --> 00:04:07.045 and, and approachable. 98 00:04:07.475 --> 00:04:08.965 They don't necessarily look professional. 99 00:04:09.105 --> 00:04:11.725 And so kind of keeping those at the forefront 100 00:04:11.725 --> 00:04:15.245 of our minds about how do we want ourselves to present? 101 00:04:15.385 --> 00:04:18.405 And some data showing that you are like 20 times more likely 102 00:04:18.405 --> 00:04:21.125 to have recruiters and employers engage further 103 00:04:21.785 --> 00:04:24.005 in your profiles to find more information 104 00:04:24.115 --> 00:04:26.605 because you have this validating piece such 105 00:04:26.605 --> 00:04:30.525 as a profile photo. Um, you of course can add some things 106 00:04:30.525 --> 00:04:32.245 that you're specifically looking for 107 00:04:32.585 --> 00:04:34.285 by roles or by industries. 108 00:04:34.635 --> 00:04:36.845 This is what we call your career interests. 109 00:04:37.025 --> 00:04:38.645 And so you can easily just add them 110 00:04:38.645 --> 00:04:39.685 here on the right corner. 111 00:04:40.975 --> 00:04:43.805 Those are the two big things. You probably are fine. 112 00:04:43.805 --> 00:04:45.005 Without a large summary, 113 00:04:45.145 --> 00:04:47.445 you're probably fine without a whole lot of skills. 114 00:04:47.685 --> 00:04:50.525 I will tell you honestly, if you're gonna add anything else 115 00:04:50.625 --> 00:04:54.165 to start to a profile, I would add a resume. 116 00:04:54.625 --> 00:04:56.965 And all you would do is click my documents, 117 00:04:57.145 --> 00:04:59.765 and when you go to upload, you can say what it is 118 00:04:59.825 --> 00:05:01.325 and it's one of your resume. 119 00:05:01.805 --> 00:05:03.925 I probably would recommend not adding a cover letter, 120 00:05:03.925 --> 00:05:05.485 transcript, or other documents for now. 121 00:05:05.865 --> 00:05:08.725 Um, at least in business retail tech, if for those of you 122 00:05:08.725 --> 00:05:10.605 that need portfolios, you could add them here. 123 00:05:11.105 --> 00:05:13.485 Um, but resumes are the big one. And here's why. 124 00:05:14.265 --> 00:05:16.485 For any of you that ever go to a career fair, 125 00:05:16.485 --> 00:05:17.645 you're gonna check in. 126 00:05:18.145 --> 00:05:20.845 And sometimes employers want to be handed a resume. 127 00:05:21.235 --> 00:05:24.125 Sometimes employers might have a QR code for you 128 00:05:24.125 --> 00:05:26.045 to check in at their individual booth. 129 00:05:26.545 --> 00:05:30.005 And when you do that, you're actually show checking in 130 00:05:30.005 --> 00:05:31.365 by your Handshake profile. 131 00:05:31.745 --> 00:05:34.405 And the recruiters then can just quickly glance to see 132 00:05:34.405 --> 00:05:36.205 who checked in, see their profile, 133 00:05:36.625 --> 00:05:38.725 and then what they can then do is see their resume. 134 00:05:39.505 --> 00:05:41.325 And why this is so important is 135 00:05:41.325 --> 00:05:44.085 because sometimes as we navigate these processes, we have 136 00:05:44.085 --> 00:05:48.045 to really think about how do recruiters navigate this? 137 00:05:48.265 --> 00:05:49.765 How do employers navigate this? 138 00:05:49.865 --> 00:05:51.925 How does that influence how I navigate it? 139 00:05:52.345 --> 00:05:54.125 And what we know is recruiters are telling us 140 00:05:54.235 --> 00:05:56.445 that when they are filtering through students, 141 00:05:56.635 --> 00:05:58.645 they're gonna click, do they have a resume 142 00:05:58.785 --> 00:06:00.045 filter, yes or no. 143 00:06:00.385 --> 00:06:03.445 And so if you don't have at least a, a resume on here, um, 144 00:06:03.745 --> 00:06:05.285 you're, you might be getting missed. 145 00:06:05.305 --> 00:06:07.365 And so that's something we definitely want to avoid. 146 00:06:08.505 --> 00:06:12.045 Um, so that's kind of a bare bone about, hey, all you need 147 00:06:12.045 --> 00:06:13.845 to know to get started, throw a profile, 148 00:06:14.335 --> 00:06:16.405 throw in a headshot. If you don't have one, 149 00:06:16.865 --> 00:06:20.685 Um, the Walter Center at Ernie Pyle Hall, which is just 150 00:06:20.685 --> 00:06:22.165 outside the IMU, um, 151 00:06:22.485 --> 00:06:24.485 actually has a free headshot photo booth 152 00:06:24.505 --> 00:06:27.645 and it's open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. every day. 153 00:06:28.065 --> 00:06:30.645 Uh, you just walk in, scan the QR code, take several photos 154 00:06:30.985 --> 00:06:32.045 and it'll just send it to your email. 155 00:06:32.045 --> 00:06:33.285 It's no charge. And that might get you 156 00:06:33.285 --> 00:06:34.725 started and maybe add a resume. 157 00:06:35.865 --> 00:06:38.565 Um, really the other things I would work 158 00:06:38.565 --> 00:06:41.245 through is not worry too much about explore, not 159 00:06:41.245 --> 00:06:42.405 to worry too much about feed. 160 00:06:42.655 --> 00:06:44.085 We're probably gonna spend most of our time in 161 00:06:44.085 --> 00:06:45.165 these other few tabs. 162 00:06:45.785 --> 00:06:49.365 Um, so if you, um, are like any of the students I meet with, 163 00:06:49.785 --> 00:06:53.045 um, probably one of the most common questions I get about 164 00:06:53.045 --> 00:06:57.645 when it comes to finance, accounting, merchandising, buying, 165 00:06:57.825 --> 00:07:00.845 supply chain real estate is this like age old question 166 00:07:00.845 --> 00:07:04.285 of like, I know what I want to do, but how do I get started? 167 00:07:04.785 --> 00:07:07.165 And I'll tell you, if you don't know how to get started, 168 00:07:07.635 --> 00:07:09.125 Handshake is going to be the place 169 00:07:09.125 --> 00:07:10.565 that's gonna make it a little bit easier 170 00:07:10.785 --> 00:07:13.405 and a little bit more tangible to walk through slowly. 171 00:07:13.985 --> 00:07:15.365 So really if you're looking for jobs 172 00:07:15.665 --> 00:07:18.245 or internships, I would just start here 173 00:07:18.465 --> 00:07:20.045 as just a place to explore. 174 00:07:20.865 --> 00:07:23.005 Um, and so what we're gonna find is 175 00:07:23.005 --> 00:07:24.245 that right now the job 176 00:07:24.245 --> 00:07:25.405 market's actually looking pretty great. 177 00:07:25.785 --> 00:07:28.085 Um, when I look at the job boards specifically 178 00:07:28.085 --> 00:07:29.565 for Handshake internships 179 00:07:29.565 --> 00:07:31.725 and entry level in the fall, um, 180 00:07:31.845 --> 00:07:34.885 I think we saw the numbers a a little bit closer to like 40 181 00:07:34.985 --> 00:07:36.285 to 50,000 jobs. 182 00:07:36.785 --> 00:07:38.285 So this says 10,000 plus, 183 00:07:38.625 --> 00:07:40.525 but actually when you'll get filters, we'll scroll down 184 00:07:41.105 --> 00:07:44.365 and we can see that it's actually over 30,000. 185 00:07:44.385 --> 00:07:47.365 So that's telling us, um, since we've kind of come out 186 00:07:47.365 --> 00:07:49.645 of the fourth quarter of 2025, 187 00:07:50.115 --> 00:07:52.885 that businesses are picking up in how they're recruiting 188 00:07:52.885 --> 00:07:55.045 and how they're looking for entry-level talent 189 00:07:55.105 --> 00:07:56.325 and internships for the summer. 190 00:07:56.785 --> 00:07:59.045 Um, so there's still plenty of opportunities out there. 191 00:07:59.785 --> 00:08:01.045 So that's kind of a starting place. 192 00:08:01.665 --> 00:08:04.965 Um, and so really, really think about what are the things 193 00:08:04.965 --> 00:08:07.125 that really matter 194 00:08:07.465 --> 00:08:09.965 for your opportunity search right now? 195 00:08:10.585 --> 00:08:12.685 And know that if you are going to look here, 196 00:08:12.875 --> 00:08:16.765 here would be tip and trick. Number one, don't over filter. 197 00:08:17.785 --> 00:08:21.205 And really what that means is think about from a recruiter 198 00:08:21.205 --> 00:08:24.605 standpoint, when they're building these posts 199 00:08:24.825 --> 00:08:26.205 and building these opportunities, 200 00:08:26.675 --> 00:08:29.165 they're being strategic about not always wanting 201 00:08:29.185 --> 00:08:30.845 to post every single thing. 202 00:08:31.265 --> 00:08:34.245 Um, and so what that means is if you're really saying like, 203 00:08:34.315 --> 00:08:38.205 well, I really want, um, remote, okay, 204 00:08:38.205 --> 00:08:41.245 well I can tell you it's gonna drop the opportunities 205 00:08:41.245 --> 00:08:43.085 available to you dramatically. 206 00:08:43.145 --> 00:08:46.205 So I would really recommend in the early stage of searching 207 00:08:46.205 --> 00:08:49.085 for opportunities, be as open as possible 208 00:08:49.265 --> 00:08:51.965 and see what's there and then filter down from there. 209 00:08:52.465 --> 00:08:54.845 So really I would recommend only a few things 210 00:08:55.025 --> 00:08:56.445 and I'll show you them bit by bit. 211 00:08:56.785 --> 00:09:00.685 One, be really genuine about where you want to go. 212 00:09:01.025 --> 00:09:02.885 Um, and you can look for multiple places 213 00:09:02.985 --> 00:09:05.165 and maybe I'd recommend looking at them in interval. 214 00:09:05.185 --> 00:09:06.685 So like, let's say we're gonna start, 215 00:09:07.175 --> 00:09:08.245 let's just look in Chicago. 216 00:09:08.945 --> 00:09:12.045 And the biggest thing that I would probably recommend is I 217 00:09:12.045 --> 00:09:15.005 would really recommend looking by city, not by state. 218 00:09:15.465 --> 00:09:18.485 And the reason being is let's say you are a wealth 219 00:09:18.485 --> 00:09:19.805 management firm in Chicago. 220 00:09:20.505 --> 00:09:22.005 Are you gonna say you're from Illinois? 221 00:09:22.865 --> 00:09:24.685 No, you're gonna say you're from Chicago. 222 00:09:24.905 --> 00:09:26.445 You're not gonna say you're from New York State. 223 00:09:26.445 --> 00:09:27.725 You're gonna say you're from New York City. 224 00:09:28.185 --> 00:09:31.165 And so what we know is that as you're kind of navigating 225 00:09:31.165 --> 00:09:34.685 that, I would talk about looking at employers 226 00:09:34.685 --> 00:09:36.685 and looking at jobs kind of in the same way 227 00:09:36.685 --> 00:09:38.285 that employers talk about themselves as well. 228 00:09:38.955 --> 00:09:41.845 Okay, so we filter by the city of Chicago 229 00:09:42.145 --> 00:09:43.485 and then you're like, well, am I looking 230 00:09:43.485 --> 00:09:44.685 for a job or an internship? 231 00:09:45.155 --> 00:09:47.605 Okay, well maybe we say we're looking for jobs, great. 232 00:09:48.185 --> 00:09:51.165 Really no out front what it is exactly that we're kind 233 00:09:51.165 --> 00:09:53.205 of aiming for, knowing we can always go back 234 00:09:53.305 --> 00:09:56.645 and kind of reevaluate that search, um, 235 00:09:56.745 --> 00:09:58.245 and edit it a little bit differently. 236 00:09:59.515 --> 00:10:03.095 And then really, I would personally recommend only kind 237 00:10:03.095 --> 00:10:05.295 of using one more filter. 238 00:10:05.555 --> 00:10:08.495 And the only other filter I'd really recommend using, 239 00:10:08.715 --> 00:10:10.695 and it's probably my absolute favorite, 240 00:10:11.395 --> 00:10:13.735 is you can actually filter by major. 241 00:10:14.475 --> 00:10:18.175 Now, here is something that is so absolutely important 242 00:10:18.175 --> 00:10:19.495 that I think we all need 243 00:10:19.495 --> 00:10:20.695 to make sure we're on the same page about, 244 00:10:21.195 --> 00:10:25.615 is you do not have to filter jobs by your major. 245 00:10:26.475 --> 00:10:28.695 And here's the reason why I say that is 246 00:10:28.695 --> 00:10:32.695 that when we look at entry level jobs and internships, uh, 247 00:10:32.755 --> 00:10:35.655 and how it affects like the job market across the us, 248 00:10:36.245 --> 00:10:37.655 what we know is that people 249 00:10:37.925 --> 00:10:41.215 with a four year bachelor's degree, which is majority 250 00:10:41.215 --> 00:10:43.935 of us are getting here at IU Bloomington, um, is 251 00:10:43.935 --> 00:10:45.855 that less than 30% of them 252 00:10:46.435 --> 00:10:48.815 end up working across the U.S. in a job 253 00:10:48.815 --> 00:10:51.855 or industry that directly relates to their degree. 254 00:10:52.925 --> 00:10:55.655 What does that mean? That means the majority of people 255 00:10:55.875 --> 00:10:59.415 who study something choose to eventually shift 256 00:10:59.415 --> 00:11:00.415 and pivot in other ways. 257 00:11:00.995 --> 00:11:02.335 Um, if you go to grad school, that number 258 00:11:02.335 --> 00:11:03.735 changes dramatically. 259 00:11:04.395 --> 00:11:07.455 Um, but if you are studying economics, 260 00:11:07.875 --> 00:11:10.455 you can go into business of finance. 261 00:11:11.115 --> 00:11:14.175 If you are studying finance, you can decide 262 00:11:14.175 --> 00:11:15.695 to go into interior design. 263 00:11:15.995 --> 00:11:17.255 Really what we know is 264 00:11:17.255 --> 00:11:19.495 that right now in the U.S. we are very much in 265 00:11:19.495 --> 00:11:22.215 what we would consider like a skills-based market. 266 00:11:22.715 --> 00:11:24.815 And that at the end of the day, employers love 267 00:11:24.815 --> 00:11:26.775 to skim a resume and they love to look at three things. 268 00:11:27.205 --> 00:11:29.015 Well, they wanna know your name, they wanna know 269 00:11:29.015 --> 00:11:31.375 what your major is, and then they wanna know do you have 270 00:11:31.375 --> 00:11:33.295 experience and then skills. 271 00:11:33.885 --> 00:11:36.735 They're literally sourcing out skills which can come 272 00:11:36.735 --> 00:11:40.135 through in coursework, projects, case competition, 273 00:11:40.475 --> 00:11:44.095 job shadows, micro-internships, volunteer work, 274 00:11:44.395 --> 00:11:45.415 um, part-time jobs. 275 00:11:45.875 --> 00:11:47.615 Um, and a lot of those come together 276 00:11:47.685 --> 00:11:49.975 that when we find who's getting the job in internship, 277 00:11:50.685 --> 00:11:51.695 it's the storytellers. 278 00:11:51.875 --> 00:11:55.085 So know when you, you go to filter by major, you can filter 279 00:11:55.145 --> 00:11:56.805 by whatever major you want in order 280 00:11:56.825 --> 00:11:58.005 to kind of find what you want. 281 00:11:58.545 --> 00:12:01.765 Um, so let's say you're like, I'm an economics major 282 00:12:01.825 --> 00:12:03.925 and I'm really kind of curious in the idea 283 00:12:04.625 --> 00:12:06.485 of looking at finance 284 00:12:06.705 --> 00:12:09.525 or maybe I'm like looking at accounting, say, okay, 285 00:12:09.635 --> 00:12:13.565 well look at finance, um, and kind of apply from there. 286 00:12:14.345 --> 00:12:16.165 And so what we're gonna find is, okay, 287 00:12:16.455 --> 00:12:19.365 we're looking at full-time jobs in Chicago 288 00:12:20.075 --> 00:12:22.965 that are attracted to areas of finance. 289 00:12:23.705 --> 00:12:25.125 And so here's one at the beginning. 290 00:12:25.125 --> 00:12:26.845 We've got a Partners Enterprise Capital, 291 00:12:27.355 --> 00:12:29.365 it's an investment management analyst. 292 00:12:30.185 --> 00:12:33.205 And here's now what we're gonna start seeing is a little bit 293 00:12:33.205 --> 00:12:36.685 different of Handshake versus LinkedIn is yes, 294 00:12:36.825 --> 00:12:37.965 is this job uh, 295 00:12:38.025 --> 00:12:40.405 amount lower than if you were to look on LinkedIn? 296 00:12:40.785 --> 00:12:43.645 Yes. Well, one, um, we've kind of filtered out 297 00:12:43.645 --> 00:12:45.325 what we're not seeing is a lot of like here are 298 00:12:45.385 --> 00:12:46.845 senior analyst roles. 299 00:12:47.555 --> 00:12:49.245 This isn't a place employers are going 300 00:12:49.425 --> 00:12:51.885 for when they've already decided they want someone 301 00:12:51.885 --> 00:12:54.565 with five, 10 years experience. Somebody 302 00:12:54.565 --> 00:12:57.125 that already has their MBA, um, and is coming 303 00:12:57.125 --> 00:12:59.605 and bringing a lot of other work dynamics on a resume. 304 00:13:00.225 --> 00:13:02.005 So this is definitely a place where, one, 305 00:13:02.005 --> 00:13:03.245 you're gonna have less competition 306 00:13:03.245 --> 00:13:06.245 because not everyone in the world is on Handshake. 307 00:13:06.465 --> 00:13:09.045 Really, this is gonna be something you see with a, a lot 308 00:13:09.045 --> 00:13:10.605 of the large institutions 309 00:13:10.605 --> 00:13:13.045 and Big Ten schools, um, across the U.S. 310 00:13:14.065 --> 00:13:16.645 So as you're kind of filtering through here, um, 311 00:13:16.665 --> 00:13:18.085 we can kind of see what matters to them. 312 00:13:18.155 --> 00:13:22.005 It's full-time, it pays $80, a $80,000 a year potentially 313 00:13:22.005 --> 00:13:25.405 as a starting point of negotiation, some great benefits. 314 00:13:25.915 --> 00:13:28.405 What we're gonna see is this position, uh, ask 315 00:13:28.425 --> 00:13:30.885 for U.S. work authorization. Um, 316 00:13:30.945 --> 00:13:32.605 and know that if that's something you, 317 00:13:33.125 --> 00:13:34.765 is something you want to filter through, 318 00:13:35.095 --> 00:13:37.605 there is an additional filter for those of you 319 00:13:37.605 --> 00:13:39.405 that are looking for OPT 320 00:13:39.505 --> 00:13:41.965 or CPT, um, where you can filter 321 00:13:42.035 --> 00:13:45.125 that over here in the filters in order to understand that, 322 00:13:45.585 --> 00:13:47.325 um, to know what employers are looking for. 323 00:13:47.325 --> 00:13:51.565 However, always know that that isn't the end all be all. 324 00:13:51.745 --> 00:13:55.325 We know that there are employers who say that they, um, 325 00:13:55.515 --> 00:13:57.685 that U.S. work authorization is required 326 00:13:57.835 --> 00:13:59.245 that then end up actually being willing 327 00:13:59.245 --> 00:14:00.965 to sponsor OPT and CPT. 328 00:14:01.265 --> 00:14:03.685 And so sometimes we see employers do is they don't 329 00:14:03.685 --> 00:14:06.525 necessarily want to, um, click this option here. 330 00:14:06.665 --> 00:14:08.965 So know that you can still pursue options. 331 00:14:09.425 --> 00:14:11.925 Um, just be very truthful in the, in the process about 332 00:14:11.925 --> 00:14:13.645 where you're at and what are the needs and, 333 00:14:13.645 --> 00:14:15.245 and be able to really own that narrative. 334 00:14:16.265 --> 00:14:18.125 Um, so as we're kind of filtering through, 335 00:14:18.225 --> 00:14:21.325 we see we've got some overview, which is really easy. 336 00:14:21.875 --> 00:14:25.085 This should probably be influencing your cover letter at 337 00:14:25.085 --> 00:14:26.165 least in a few different ways. 338 00:14:26.905 --> 00:14:29.085 And then we get into this position overview 339 00:14:29.145 --> 00:14:30.325 and the responsibilities. 340 00:14:30.585 --> 00:14:33.325 And what you're gonna notice is a lot of jobs 341 00:14:33.385 --> 00:14:36.325 and internships, they love to use a bullet point list. 342 00:14:36.745 --> 00:14:37.845 And the reason is is 343 00:14:38.045 --> 00:14:41.685 'cause they're really hoping you're gonna see some 344 00:14:41.685 --> 00:14:43.085 of these skills and ideas 345 00:14:43.675 --> 00:14:46.925 related on your resume in your own bullet point list. 346 00:14:47.625 --> 00:14:51.365 Um, so for example, um, this specific role is looking 347 00:14:51.385 --> 00:14:54.685 for someone with some research and analytic background 348 00:14:55.365 --> 00:14:58.165 'cause they're going to, uh, develop familiarity 349 00:14:58.165 --> 00:15:00.445 with these sectors and ideas, review 350 00:15:00.445 --> 00:15:02.605 and interpret property performance data. 351 00:15:03.105 --> 00:15:04.965 And so now we have to start wondering if 352 00:15:04.965 --> 00:15:06.085 this is what matters to them. 353 00:15:06.745 --> 00:15:10.085 Is there a place on our resume through an internship, 354 00:15:10.475 --> 00:15:15.325 through a course where we have reviewed an interpreted 355 00:15:16.245 --> 00:15:18.125 property or company level performance data? 356 00:15:18.585 --> 00:15:21.245 And for so many of you, the answer might be yes. 357 00:15:21.505 --> 00:15:23.445 And if so, you might wanna kind 358 00:15:23.445 --> 00:15:25.165 of strateg, strategically make sure that 359 00:15:25.165 --> 00:15:27.285 that's really being seen on your resume. 360 00:15:28.105 --> 00:15:31.365 Um, because what we'll know is that if you apply to jobs 361 00:15:31.475 --> 00:15:34.325 that typically have more than probably like a hundred 362 00:15:34.645 --> 00:15:38.565 employees, um, you're probably also having your resumes 363 00:15:38.705 --> 00:15:42.285 and applications being read by something called an ATS. 364 00:15:42.545 --> 00:15:44.845 And essentially what that means is it is an applicant 365 00:15:45.205 --> 00:15:48.645 tracking system and it's using these key words, 366 00:15:48.775 --> 00:15:52.845 these action verbs, these key phrases to try to 367 00:15:53.725 --> 00:15:56.685 organize and give a score to candidates to figure out 368 00:15:57.465 --> 00:16:02.005 how do they review a large list of applicants in order 369 00:16:02.005 --> 00:16:03.485 to find the ones that are most important. 370 00:16:03.985 --> 00:16:05.925 So no, in today's world, 371 00:16:06.065 --> 00:16:08.925 and which is very different from a decade ago, 20, 372 00:16:08.985 --> 00:16:11.085 30 years ago, our parents' timeframe, 373 00:16:11.185 --> 00:16:14.205 our grandparents' timeframe that we're in this modern world 374 00:16:14.205 --> 00:16:17.645 where right now I, I think I would argue that resumes, 375 00:16:17.915 --> 00:16:18.965 they aren't really about us. 376 00:16:19.555 --> 00:16:22.125 Your resumes are really about the employer. 377 00:16:22.555 --> 00:16:24.325 It's their opportunity to see 378 00:16:24.505 --> 00:16:28.645 and answer the question, is this candidate qualified? 379 00:16:29.305 --> 00:16:33.285 Do they have exposure to the skill verbs, partnering, 380 00:16:33.795 --> 00:16:37.445 reviewing, developing, providing presentations, 381 00:16:37.835 --> 00:16:39.325 assisting, applying? 382 00:16:40.385 --> 00:16:41.645 Do they have the skills 383 00:16:42.265 --> 00:16:45.205 and the exposure to the needs of my industry? 384 00:16:45.665 --> 00:16:48.005 Um, and if you're hitting those things, you're, 385 00:16:48.005 --> 00:16:49.365 you're more likely to get an interview. 386 00:16:49.465 --> 00:16:51.435 So know that. Um, 387 00:16:51.455 --> 00:16:54.075 and then if you, you scroll down, we might, uh, be able 388 00:16:54.075 --> 00:16:57.795 to find what I call the really like best part 389 00:16:57.795 --> 00:16:59.595 of this algorithm, which is similar jobs. 390 00:17:00.415 --> 00:17:04.555 So Handshake is working with an algorithm behind the scenes 391 00:17:04.775 --> 00:17:06.355 for any of our like computer 392 00:17:06.355 --> 00:17:07.955 science students, uh, on the call. 393 00:17:07.955 --> 00:17:10.155 They probably can talk about this way better than I could. 394 00:17:10.615 --> 00:17:13.355 Um, but if you ever fill out your career interests, 395 00:17:13.485 --> 00:17:14.955 it'll be industry and role 396 00:17:15.015 --> 00:17:17.075 and it's trying to give you a better understanding 397 00:17:17.095 --> 00:17:18.995 of it's trying to understand what you're looking 398 00:17:19.015 --> 00:17:20.355 for and present it for you. 399 00:17:20.815 --> 00:17:22.915 And so something I would think about is looking 400 00:17:23.015 --> 00:17:25.355 for roles over here that really speak to you. 401 00:17:25.495 --> 00:17:26.555 And when you find one, 402 00:17:26.555 --> 00:17:28.435 like let's say it's investment management, 403 00:17:28.935 --> 00:17:30.275 scroll down to similar jobs. 404 00:17:30.455 --> 00:17:34.275 And this algorithm is much more closely tied to the role, 405 00:17:34.575 --> 00:17:36.355 though not necessarily tied 406 00:17:36.375 --> 00:17:38.115 to the filters that we've applied. 407 00:17:38.535 --> 00:17:40.795 So we're seeing really strong analyst roles, 408 00:17:40.795 --> 00:17:43.315 investment roles, but they're not tied to Chicago. 409 00:17:44.135 --> 00:17:45.875 So know that this is a great place 410 00:17:45.875 --> 00:17:47.315 to find some leads as well. 411 00:17:48.175 --> 00:17:51.445 Um, and so this is gonna be a great place to 412 00:17:52.075 --> 00:17:53.365 explore a little bit of jobs. 413 00:17:54.385 --> 00:17:55.765 Um, so let's go to the next thing. 414 00:17:56.065 --> 00:17:57.565 Um, next is gonna be events. 415 00:17:58.555 --> 00:18:01.805 This is going to be a catch-all of any career- 416 00:18:02.365 --> 00:18:04.525 oriented event on campus from career fairs 417 00:18:04.525 --> 00:18:07.805 to career development to workshops to seminars, 418 00:18:08.065 --> 00:18:09.365 to in-person to virtual. 419 00:18:09.945 --> 00:18:11.685 And some things here I would really want 420 00:18:11.685 --> 00:18:14.685 to point out is one, you are going to see events here 421 00:18:14.755 --> 00:18:17.405 that are not tied to your specific school. 422 00:18:17.905 --> 00:18:19.805 Um, we have a lot of students here on the call 423 00:18:19.805 --> 00:18:21.525 that are from the College of Arts and Sciences. 424 00:18:21.865 --> 00:18:24.045 You're gonna see some events from Kelley. 425 00:18:24.705 --> 00:18:27.205 Um, so for example, if we scroll down, 426 00:18:27.335 --> 00:18:29.325 we're gonna see the Kelley early career fairs, 427 00:18:29.325 --> 00:18:30.845 which is this Wednesday, 428 00:18:30.845 --> 00:18:33.965 and it's in person at 5 p.m. You can go to that. 429 00:18:34.175 --> 00:18:36.725 There are employers that are going to expect 430 00:18:36.725 --> 00:18:38.245 that you come and meet them there. 431 00:18:38.385 --> 00:18:39.765 That's the day they're on campus. 432 00:18:40.345 --> 00:18:42.405 Um, and Kelley is able to host them. 433 00:18:43.465 --> 00:18:46.085 We have some Kelley students that are on the call. 434 00:18:46.345 --> 00:18:48.805 And I can tell you we've got some very strong 435 00:18:49.325 --> 00:18:52.245 business oriented, uh, specific places 436 00:18:52.925 --> 00:18:54.165 actually on campus tomorrow 437 00:18:54.465 --> 00:18:56.445 for the Spring College and O'Neill Fair. 438 00:18:56.945 --> 00:18:59.005 Um, Target, InScribe, we have Ross. 439 00:18:59.345 --> 00:19:02.205 Um, and they're some big retail brands right there. 440 00:19:02.835 --> 00:19:05.045 They're expecting kids that are kind of come to this. 441 00:19:05.065 --> 00:19:07.085 So know that these events in general are open 442 00:19:07.085 --> 00:19:09.645 to all students regardless of where they're located. 443 00:19:09.785 --> 00:19:12.605 If they're located in a college building, a Kelley building, 444 00:19:12.845 --> 00:19:15.085 a Luddy building, a School of Ed building, um, 445 00:19:15.105 --> 00:19:16.325 and you are welcome to all of them. 446 00:19:16.425 --> 00:19:18.445 And sometimes you're gonna find events that are actually not 447 00:19:19.205 --> 00:19:20.485 actually hosted by IU at all. 448 00:19:21.185 --> 00:19:23.685 Um, they're actually hosted by employers 449 00:19:23.745 --> 00:19:26.445 and they're virtual. Um, Deloitte being one, 450 00:19:26.445 --> 00:19:28.805 they've got some in-person versions, um, 451 00:19:28.945 --> 00:19:31.285 and that are going to be I bet at Hodge Hall. 452 00:19:31.665 --> 00:19:33.485 Um, and then they've got actually a virtual one 453 00:19:33.485 --> 00:19:35.845 that is not sponsored by Kelley, but all students can attend. 454 00:19:37.385 --> 00:19:39.275 Okay, next we're gonna go into people. 455 00:19:39.695 --> 00:19:42.315 If you really have started to figure out 456 00:19:42.425 --> 00:19:44.555 what are some roles you like, um, 457 00:19:44.815 --> 00:19:47.475 and we will say analyst, maybe it's an investment 458 00:19:47.475 --> 00:19:48.675 analyst is gonna be one 459 00:19:48.695 --> 00:19:51.195 and you're, you aren't really finding the leads. 460 00:19:51.425 --> 00:19:53.035 What we know is that right now we're, 461 00:19:53.035 --> 00:19:54.235 we're in the spring semester 462 00:19:54.235 --> 00:19:56.275 and spring recruitment is not as large. 463 00:19:56.275 --> 00:19:58.915 As it is for fall. And so employers sometimes 464 00:19:59.475 --> 00:20:00.475 navigate it a little bit differently. 465 00:20:00.975 --> 00:20:04.475 So sometimes one of the best ways to search for jobs, 466 00:20:04.895 --> 00:20:06.915 I'm gonna tell you in my opinion, it's not to look for them. 467 00:20:07.545 --> 00:20:11.155 Instead look for people, people that have had jobs. 468 00:20:11.655 --> 00:20:14.035 Um, and that might be a way to find some interest. 469 00:20:14.135 --> 00:20:16.275 So for example, you can look by job role. 470 00:20:16.365 --> 00:20:18.155 These are across the Big Ten, 471 00:20:18.335 --> 00:20:20.915 beyond just simply like the IU Bloomington space. 472 00:20:21.495 --> 00:20:25.035 And we say we're looking for an investment, um, analyst 473 00:20:25.895 --> 00:20:29.195 and I didn't spell it right, so, okay, backspace 474 00:20:29.705 --> 00:20:32.415 analyst, one second. 475 00:20:32.915 --> 00:20:36.175 And uh, okay, there got my keyboard working. 476 00:20:36.755 --> 00:20:38.775 And so what we can then find is like, okay, 477 00:20:38.775 --> 00:20:41.055 well there are 7,800 students 478 00:20:41.075 --> 00:20:44.575 and alumni across the U.S. who have already kind 479 00:20:44.575 --> 00:20:47.685 of branched into this investment analyst space. 480 00:20:48.345 --> 00:20:50.445 And here's one from a current student 481 00:20:50.585 --> 00:20:53.925 who has at some point done a, a real estate internship. 482 00:20:54.625 --> 00:20:58.525 We could go to their profile, uh, see where it was 483 00:20:58.745 --> 00:21:00.605 and add that to like a little leads list, 484 00:21:00.605 --> 00:21:01.645 maybe an Excel document. 485 00:21:01.645 --> 00:21:04.805 We keep separate to help us kind of navigate ideas 486 00:21:04.865 --> 00:21:07.405 and where to look. An investment analyst, 487 00:21:07.665 --> 00:21:11.325 an investment internship, here's another, here's another. 488 00:21:11.545 --> 00:21:14.605 And so it can sometimes be really daunting 489 00:21:14.605 --> 00:21:15.765 to be like, how do I get started? 490 00:21:15.955 --> 00:21:18.765 Well, one way to start is, not to start looking 491 00:21:18.905 --> 00:21:21.925 but to look at what are the trailblazers before you? 492 00:21:22.375 --> 00:21:26.245 Where have they gone? Is that somewhere I might want to go? 493 00:21:26.545 --> 00:21:30.005 And here a lot of these are IU students who might be able 494 00:21:30.005 --> 00:21:32.805 to give you some ideas about what worked for them. 495 00:21:33.145 --> 00:21:35.205 And you might get some great, um, mentorship 496 00:21:35.265 --> 00:21:37.245 and networking that might benefit in your 497 00:21:37.245 --> 00:21:38.645 application process as well. 498 00:21:40.395 --> 00:21:43.005 Okay. My favorite tip 499 00:21:43.005 --> 00:21:44.485 and trick though, I'm gonna tell you 500 00:21:44.675 --> 00:21:45.805 it's the employer's tab. 501 00:21:46.025 --> 00:21:49.965 And so what we know is that the job market in a lot 502 00:21:49.965 --> 00:21:52.045 of ways is a lot like an iceberg. 503 00:21:52.505 --> 00:21:55.685 And so what that means is icebergs are very little 504 00:21:55.795 --> 00:21:57.325 presented on top of the water. 505 00:21:57.585 --> 00:22:00.565 The majority of an iceberg is hidden deep inside the ocean. 506 00:22:01.145 --> 00:22:03.165 And the job market is a lot like that. 507 00:22:03.385 --> 00:22:06.445 So when you look for jobs here on Handshake, um, 508 00:22:06.905 --> 00:22:11.125 he on LinkedIn, on Indeed through Google search, really 509 00:22:11.125 --> 00:22:13.085 what we know is you're skimming the surface. 510 00:22:13.385 --> 00:22:16.965 You're actually only accessing probably about 20% 511 00:22:16.965 --> 00:22:18.245 of the overall job market. 512 00:22:18.875 --> 00:22:21.965 What we know the bottom is what's really sometimes called 513 00:22:21.985 --> 00:22:26.045 the hidden job market is sometimes never posted externally 514 00:22:26.475 --> 00:22:28.245 from actual company websites. 515 00:22:28.615 --> 00:22:30.165 These are things you're only gonna find 516 00:22:30.425 --> 00:22:33.165 by internal recommendations through networking 517 00:22:33.465 --> 00:22:36.125 or really gritting down to find where you want to be. 518 00:22:36.905 --> 00:22:39.965 Um, and so I guess what I'd be really curious about from any 519 00:22:39.965 --> 00:22:42.365 of you, um, and since we're recording, um, 520 00:22:42.385 --> 00:22:44.285 if you would like just put it in the chat 521 00:22:44.705 --> 00:22:47.165 and then Meg can kind of tell me what, uh, comes 522 00:22:47.165 --> 00:22:49.205 to mind is really be thinking about 523 00:22:49.475 --> 00:22:50.925 what industry are you curious about? 524 00:22:51.185 --> 00:22:53.965 And so if any of you, I'm gonna show you some, if one speaks 525 00:22:53.965 --> 00:22:56.405 to you, drop it in the chat. Meg, let me know, 526 00:22:56.585 --> 00:22:58.845 uh, and I'm happy to explore that as an example. 527 00:22:59.495 --> 00:23:02.965 We've got PR and marketing, we've got 528 00:23:03.765 --> 00:23:04.965 construction, commercial banking. 529 00:23:06.425 --> 00:23:10.415 Let's see, we've got financial services, 530 00:23:11.345 --> 00:23:12.375 government finance, 531 00:23:12.545 --> 00:23:14.215 We've got one for finance. Trenten. 532 00:23:14.525 --> 00:23:18.415 Yeah, sure. And merchandising. Ooh, merchandising. 533 00:23:18.515 --> 00:23:20.175 All right. So, uh, we'll do one of both. 534 00:23:20.235 --> 00:23:22.775 So we'll do financial services, merchandising, 535 00:23:22.835 --> 00:23:24.135 you're gonna be all the way down here 536 00:23:24.515 --> 00:23:26.135 and uh, we're gonna look up a retail. 537 00:23:26.645 --> 00:23:29.615 Okay? So let's start with financial services. 538 00:23:30.115 --> 00:23:33.295 And so what we know is that it's gonna give you a lot. 539 00:23:33.525 --> 00:23:36.375 Handshake is a catch-all amazing place 540 00:23:36.375 --> 00:23:37.975 to be when it comes to finding employers. 541 00:23:38.235 --> 00:23:40.535 And so when you scroll down here to see, alright, in finance 542 00:23:41.515 --> 00:23:42.615 10,000 employers, 543 00:23:43.485 --> 00:23:47.405 what I would then recommend is always really diversifying 544 00:23:47.625 --> 00:23:49.085 the type of places you're looking. 545 00:23:49.545 --> 00:23:50.805 Um, and I, this is a, a, 546 00:23:50.965 --> 00:23:53.005 a concept we talk about when looking at grad schools 547 00:23:53.085 --> 00:23:55.405 a lot. Like, you know, when you apply to grad school, 548 00:23:55.465 --> 00:23:58.285 I'd always suggest like maybe have some top- tier places, 549 00:23:58.285 --> 00:24:00.045 places you're like, I'm not getting in there, 550 00:24:00.145 --> 00:24:03.085 but I'd love to some places that like, Ooh, it's a stretch, 551 00:24:03.145 --> 00:24:04.325 but I feel good about it. 552 00:24:04.385 --> 00:24:06.325 And it may be a few places that are backups. 553 00:24:06.705 --> 00:24:10.365 So maybe you may wanna consider finding a few internship 554 00:24:10.665 --> 00:24:13.045 or job options that are larger firms. 555 00:24:13.425 --> 00:24:16.805 You know, 25,000 employees is a very large firm. 556 00:24:17.315 --> 00:24:19.045 Then we've got some in the smaller firm, 557 00:24:19.045 --> 00:24:20.765 maybe it's five to 10,000. 558 00:24:20.865 --> 00:24:24.965 And what we know is they might have less competition, one 559 00:24:24.965 --> 00:24:27.925 to 5,000 less competition and that, 560 00:24:28.025 --> 00:24:29.685 but they may be in less desirable places. 561 00:24:29.905 --> 00:24:33.045 You have places like Cincinnati versus New York City. 562 00:24:33.545 --> 00:24:35.245 Um, so finding a few different ones. 563 00:24:35.545 --> 00:24:38.125 And so let's stick with our original example we tried 564 00:24:38.125 --> 00:24:40.285 earlier is we said Chicago. 565 00:24:40.665 --> 00:24:44.285 And once again, employers, you can see here that none 566 00:24:44.285 --> 00:24:46.925 of them say except for Wells Fargo, that's super large, 567 00:24:46.925 --> 00:24:47.925 they're in just the U.S. 568 00:24:48.385 --> 00:24:50.845 Um, most of them are going to have a specific branch 569 00:24:50.865 --> 00:24:52.525 or a major city that they're gonna kind 570 00:24:52.525 --> 00:24:54.085 of hold as their place to be. 571 00:24:54.785 --> 00:24:57.645 Um, so as we're kind of looking here, here's what we kind 572 00:24:57.645 --> 00:24:59.205 of find is that, uh, 573 00:24:59.495 --> 00:25:01.445 we'll start Bankers Life here, financial services. 574 00:25:01.635 --> 00:25:03.885 When you click them, you're gonna get an overall 575 00:25:03.915 --> 00:25:05.205 profile view of the employer. 576 00:25:05.785 --> 00:25:08.445 And what it's gonna do is it's gonna first off tell 577 00:25:08.445 --> 00:25:09.725 you are there any jobs? 578 00:25:10.225 --> 00:25:11.725 And if it says no, 579 00:25:13.075 --> 00:25:15.055 I'm telling you do not trust and believe it. 580 00:25:15.525 --> 00:25:17.735 What we're seeing is a lot of employers, 581 00:25:17.895 --> 00:25:20.895 so this one's got a lot, 63 is a very large number 582 00:25:20.895 --> 00:25:22.015 of internships and jobs. 583 00:25:22.515 --> 00:25:25.415 Um, what we know is a lot of them hold back 584 00:25:25.555 --> 00:25:27.575 and they only post them on their website. 585 00:25:27.875 --> 00:25:30.095 And so what that means is if you ever see a jobs 586 00:25:30.095 --> 00:25:32.455 that say zero, don't lose faith. 587 00:25:32.845 --> 00:25:34.655 Instead click visit website. 588 00:25:35.005 --> 00:25:38.175 When you go to a company website, scroll all the way down 589 00:25:38.175 --> 00:25:41.415 to the bottom to you see the little careers tab usually at 590 00:25:41.415 --> 00:25:42.535 the bottom, click it. 591 00:25:42.535 --> 00:25:44.575 And what you're gonna find is you're gonna be blown away 592 00:25:44.575 --> 00:25:49.015 by the amount of employers that have 10, 20, 30 jobs 593 00:25:49.435 --> 00:25:51.895 and then, but on Handshake or LinkedIn say they have none. 594 00:25:52.195 --> 00:25:55.175 And so that's how you access the hidden job market 595 00:25:56.035 --> 00:25:58.535 and know that once you find an employer you really care 596 00:25:58.535 --> 00:26:00.575 about, know that the benefits 597 00:26:00.575 --> 00:26:03.655 of coming here is if you scroll down past the jobs, 598 00:26:03.845 --> 00:26:05.175 past their feeds, past their 599 00:26:05.175 --> 00:26:06.935 testimonials, you get into people. 600 00:26:07.645 --> 00:26:09.135 This is really kind of interesting 601 00:26:09.295 --> 00:26:11.415 'cause what it's telling you is these are gonna be the 602 00:26:11.415 --> 00:26:14.295 recruiters, these are gonna be people that are coming 603 00:26:14.475 --> 00:26:15.695 to Hodge Hall 604 00:26:15.955 --> 00:26:19.695 or to the IMU to College Kelley Career Fair 605 00:26:19.715 --> 00:26:21.095 and career fairs across the U.S. 606 00:26:21.555 --> 00:26:23.335 to manage internships and entry levels. 607 00:26:23.435 --> 00:26:26.335 And so if let's say you decide you're really wanting 608 00:26:26.395 --> 00:26:29.455 to apply to an internship with this specific company 609 00:26:29.515 --> 00:26:34.255 of Bankers Life. I'd be copy pasting Juliana Hayes's name, 610 00:26:34.545 --> 00:26:38.015 going to LinkedIn, which LinkedIn is for recruiting, 611 00:26:38.335 --> 00:26:39.495 I definitely would go there. 612 00:26:39.795 --> 00:26:42.895 Uh, a lot of people aren't managing their follow 613 00:26:43.065 --> 00:26:45.485 and messaging services specific on Handshake. 614 00:26:45.645 --> 00:26:48.205 I definitely am not. Um, so know that this is a place 615 00:26:48.205 --> 00:26:50.845 to find opportunities, LinkedIn's a place to network for it. 616 00:26:50.985 --> 00:26:53.885 So I would be looking up Juliana Hayes, look for the, um, 617 00:26:54.045 --> 00:26:55.485 a human that's working at Bankers Life 618 00:26:55.585 --> 00:26:58.325 and that's the person I would be messaging, um, in order 619 00:26:58.325 --> 00:26:59.605 to get your name in. 620 00:26:59.705 --> 00:27:02.165 And sometimes what we find is we have students 621 00:27:02.225 --> 00:27:04.325 who tell us they will go this route. 622 00:27:04.595 --> 00:27:07.765 They'll find, um, this wealth management trainee position, 623 00:27:07.915 --> 00:27:10.765 they send a message and they're like, hi Juliana, 624 00:27:11.045 --> 00:27:14.765 I found your wealth management trainee position on Handshake 625 00:27:14.795 --> 00:27:16.205 with your name attached. 626 00:27:16.665 --> 00:27:18.645 You know, based on what I'm seeing in some 627 00:27:18.745 --> 00:27:20.165 of the job description, 628 00:27:20.605 --> 00:27:22.605 I think I might be a really competitive candidate. 629 00:27:23.065 --> 00:27:24.405 I'd love to hear a little bit more about 630 00:27:24.485 --> 00:27:25.685 Bankers Life and the role. 631 00:27:26.015 --> 00:27:28.485 Would you ever be open to a 10 minute zoom call? 632 00:27:28.545 --> 00:27:30.125 I'd love to to hear your thoughts. 633 00:27:30.635 --> 00:27:33.685 What you're doing is you're making Juliana realize, one, 634 00:27:34.065 --> 00:27:36.765 you are valuable and you bring something to the table. 635 00:27:37.585 --> 00:27:40.485 Two, sparking your curiosity a little bit. 636 00:27:40.665 --> 00:27:43.005 You're telling this recruiter whose job is 637 00:27:43.005 --> 00:27:45.325 to go find really competitive candidates 638 00:27:45.955 --> 00:27:47.805 that she's got a competitive candidate on her hands 639 00:27:48.145 --> 00:27:50.685 and that's gonna be a reason to want to reach out. 640 00:27:51.135 --> 00:27:55.685 Third, you have given her an easy low-stakes opportunity 641 00:27:56.225 --> 00:27:59.525 to engage with someone that might benefit them. 642 00:27:59.665 --> 00:28:01.645 You're not asking for 30 minutes of their time, 643 00:28:01.645 --> 00:28:03.965 you're not asking to have coffee, you're asking 644 00:28:03.985 --> 00:28:05.125 for a 10-minute Zoom chat, 645 00:28:05.305 --> 00:28:09.325 and that's the as low investment as you can possibly get. 646 00:28:09.785 --> 00:28:11.085 Um, and from there we've had some students 647 00:28:11.085 --> 00:28:14.005 who have had very great informal p uh, conversations 648 00:28:14.375 --> 00:28:16.965 where it's actually acting as their interview 649 00:28:16.965 --> 00:28:18.405 and they say, just send me your application. 650 00:28:18.455 --> 00:28:20.845 Let's go ahead and get you in. You don't even apply. 651 00:28:21.115 --> 00:28:22.485 That was your application. 652 00:28:22.545 --> 00:28:25.005 And so this can be really strategic in 653 00:28:25.065 --> 00:28:27.645 how you can access these jobs in a slightly different way. 654 00:28:29.185 --> 00:28:31.565 And then know at the end of the day, if you're, 655 00:28:31.745 --> 00:28:34.685 if you've navigated jobs, you've navigated events, 656 00:28:35.065 --> 00:28:37.085 you know about the career fair, you know about people, 657 00:28:37.085 --> 00:28:39.085 you know about employers and you're like, wow, 658 00:28:39.585 --> 00:28:41.005 my needs are kind of specific 659 00:28:41.195 --> 00:28:44.165 because everyone has a different need, that's where you have 660 00:28:44.165 --> 00:28:46.405 to call in your resources and that's where we come in. 661 00:28:46.985 --> 00:28:49.525 So click Career Center, that's how you find your coaches 662 00:28:49.745 --> 00:28:51.925 and career services across campus. 663 00:28:52.785 --> 00:28:53.965 And depending on what school, 664 00:28:54.295 --> 00:28:55.405 yours might look a little different, 665 00:28:55.425 --> 00:28:57.085 but I would really be clicking appointments. 666 00:28:58.025 --> 00:29:00.165 And when you schedule, you're gonna find a few options here. 667 00:29:00.865 --> 00:29:02.245 One, if you're in the College of Arts 668 00:29:02.245 --> 00:29:03.885 and Sciences, you're gonna have the Walter 669 00:29:03.945 --> 00:29:05.365 Center as an option. 670 00:29:05.945 --> 00:29:07.845 If you are not, if you are in Kelley 671 00:29:08.065 --> 00:29:10.325 or Luddy, uh, you might have multiple options. 672 00:29:10.465 --> 00:29:12.685 You might have options more than you realize. 673 00:29:13.005 --> 00:29:15.045 I apparently I can schedule with Jacobs School 674 00:29:15.045 --> 00:29:16.125 of Music, I don't know why. 675 00:29:16.585 --> 00:29:20.645 Um, and so know that if you ha have a need beyond that, so 676 00:29:20.645 --> 00:29:22.765 for example, if you don't have access to the Walter Center, 677 00:29:23.225 --> 00:29:25.845 um, my email is associated with this event, 678 00:29:25.905 --> 00:29:28.525 you can find it on the signup you had in the email 679 00:29:28.745 --> 00:29:29.805 as well as on Handshake. 680 00:29:30.035 --> 00:29:32.445 Send me an email and I'm happy to get the Walter Center, 681 00:29:32.445 --> 00:29:33.525 which is where I am, um, 682 00:29:33.705 --> 00:29:35.485 to give you access to utilize as well. 683 00:29:36.265 --> 00:29:37.685 So hopefully this benefits you. 684 00:29:37.825 --> 00:29:39.205 Uh, for anyone looking 685 00:29:39.225 --> 00:29:41.285 for tomorrow in the Kelley Career Fair. 686 00:29:41.705 --> 00:29:44.485 Um, career fairs at this school under events is coming up. 687 00:29:44.795 --> 00:29:45.845 Make sure you click it 688 00:29:45.845 --> 00:29:47.805 and know that when it comes to a career fair 689 00:29:47.805 --> 00:29:50.965 and how those recruiters at the fair are navigating 690 00:29:50.965 --> 00:29:53.805 Handshake, what we know is that some 691 00:29:53.805 --> 00:29:56.165 of the most successful students at these career fairs, 692 00:29:56.515 --> 00:29:57.685 they don't wing it. 693 00:29:58.195 --> 00:30:00.485 They don't simply go to these events 694 00:30:00.665 --> 00:30:04.285 and simply say, Hey, I am, you know, 695 00:30:04.285 --> 00:30:05.605 just looking at employers. 696 00:30:05.625 --> 00:30:08.405 Hey, tell me what you're hiring for. They don't like that. 697 00:30:08.715 --> 00:30:09.925 They want you to have a plan. 698 00:30:10.105 --> 00:30:13.525 So make sure you pop on the page, click employers. 699 00:30:14.145 --> 00:30:19.085 Um, I know that some people said, um, merchandising, so like 700 00:30:19.085 --> 00:30:22.605 for example, Ross is gonna be high evaluating, uh, 701 00:30:22.625 --> 00:30:24.405 the college career fair tomorrow. 702 00:30:24.865 --> 00:30:27.565 So click more. And we know that they're looking 703 00:30:27.565 --> 00:30:29.045 for assistant buyers in 704 00:30:29.065 --> 00:30:31.645 for the New York office, assistant planning interns, 705 00:30:31.645 --> 00:30:33.725 assistant buyer from the New York City buying office, 706 00:30:34.305 --> 00:30:36.805 and going up to them saying, hey, I know 707 00:30:36.885 --> 00:30:38.045 that you are here looking for 708 00:30:38.045 --> 00:30:39.085 this assistant buyer internship. 709 00:30:39.385 --> 00:30:41.485 I'd love to pick your little bit more your brain about it. 710 00:30:41.545 --> 00:30:42.805 You know, I've been really looking up Ross 711 00:30:42.805 --> 00:30:44.085 and spending some time on the website. 712 00:30:44.275 --> 00:30:46.245 What that does is tell them you're not 713 00:30:46.245 --> 00:30:47.445 here for a internship. 714 00:30:47.945 --> 00:30:49.565 You're here for the internship. 715 00:30:49.905 --> 00:30:53.805 And so that's really some information specific to Handshake. 716 00:30:54.025 --> 00:30:55.765 You're not really gonna be able 717 00:30:55.765 --> 00:30:57.605 to get anywhere else, quite necessarily. 718 00:30:57.825 --> 00:31:00.045 So, um, hopefully this helped. 719 00:31:00.545 --> 00:31:04.205 Uh, and if not, obviously please make sure you book a career 720 00:31:04.485 --> 00:31:07.005 coaching appointment so that we can tailor a strategy, um, 721 00:31:07.405 --> 00:31:07.925 specifically for you.