There's more than one path to success in business at IU

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Megan Ray: Great. And if it's okay with you all, and I can turn this off, if it's not, I'd love to record this if you all. Don't mind. So if you'd rather me not. That's okay. So just raise your hand. If you would rather me not record.

Megan Ray: Okay. Seeing no hands raised. We will move forward so, and Hi! Welcome to our participants who are coming in. I'm really glad to see you all here, so wonderful. Angel and Cal, Amy, Andy Akash, James. Great! Thank you so much. Hi, Katie! Glad that you all are joining us. Luke

Megan Ray: Liam Shawn. Hi! Hello! Welcome! Well, my name is Megan Ray, and I'm your moderator this evening for this panel, and I am so excited because we have some amazing, incredibly accomplished alumni who are here with us this evening. We're going to talk a little bit about their roles, about their major programs that I you. But what they did to get themselves successful and into the places where they are. So

Megan Ray: what I'd love to do is, have you all go ahead and introduce yourselves and Aly, if we want to start with you, and then we'll go to Fuhong, and then to James Alyssa Claymiller: Awesome. Well, I'm super happy to be here with you all today. My name is Alyssa. I'm from outside of Fort Wayne and graduated from IU in 2019. Alyssa Claymiller: and I work at intuitive surgical. We have a surgical robot. So a lot of people think that it's the robot doing surgery. But it's actually the surgeon who is is doing that just gets them some more precision and control. and I originally wanted to be an optometer. So I studied science, and we can maybe get into that later. But how I made this the decision to get more of a business row.

Fuhang Mou: Everybody. I'm Sue Hong, Mo. I graduated from IU in 2020. I studied biotechnology. And after I graduated I moved to Chicago to work at Abbey and V is a pharmaceutical company. We have Fuhang Mou: products like humor and botox. those are like 2 of our most

Fuhang Mou: well known products. So I started in marketing, went to market research. And now I am in the sales in Raleigh, North Carolina. So happy to be back at.

Fuhang Mou: are you with you all?

James Markwith: Hi, everyone I'm James Mark with also located in Chicago now, but originally from Seattle. Washington, Graduated from Indiana, first in 2021, and then again in 2022 after grad school. Now I work here in Chicago for United headlines. So happy to be here excited for this pad.

Megan Ray: Well, thank you all so much. I really appreciate it. So the first thing I'd like to do is a ask you all about the undergraduate major if you each chose a different undergraduate major to go into. And so how did you pick that major program? And then from that.

Megan Ray: how did you then decide to either move into the work that you're doing right like, what area of that, or what led you then into the grad school route right out of that. So. And, James, if you want to go ahead and start since you. You just spoke last, and then we'll go to Fuhong. And then Alyssa, that'd be great.

James Markwith: Yeah, sure. So an undergrad. I studied economics and political science, and you know I had a minor in business, but I I really wanted to kind of grow the the business side of my you know, education and knowledge a little more So I did the one year masters of Science and finance program through Plus Kelley

James Markwith: after finishing that, you know, I wanted to kind of go into the corporate world, you know. Try it out. And about a year in at United Airlines here in Chicago. I do. It United is, for it's called pricing and revenue management. James Markwith: And so it's pretty related more to the econ side of my background. James Markwith: you know, revenue revenue management's looking at demand and setting fares. And you know, making sure that we maximize revenue essentially. James Markwith: so it's you know it's been. It's been closely tied to my education you know, the whole way through. But Is there any other part of that question I missed. I can't.

Megan Ray: You did. Great. That was awesome. Thank you. And I'd like to go ahead and encourage our attendees who are watching. If you have questions, go ahead and put those into the Q and A. Specifically, that'll be really helpful for us in terms of getting those answered so excellent. Okay.

Fuhang Mou: So I When I first started at Iu, I wanted to be a physician, right? So I I took the pre-med courses. I kind of followed the traditional path of Fuhang Mou: like a science curriculum, right deep science. And then somewhere along the line, I discovered that the business side was more. Yeah, you know, plays better to my strength, and it's an area that I felt I was better able to contribute to this life science, ecosystem, the business side of life sciences. So I study more Fuhang Mou: business that I, you, and kind of work to connect the science aspect of my science, major curriculum, and then my business curriculum, my business courses together, and Fuhang Mou: once I graduated from my you, of course, I went into marketing. I have this. So a business role in a science company and and I mean, that's what I've been doing ever since.

Alyssa Claymiller: So for me, a very similar story. I was Alyssa Claymiller: originally start off as biology and decide to transition, to exercise science to my my my pre-re Alyssa Claymiller: requirements for optometry school, and it was around my junior year. I think I started it. Maybe sophomore year started to like, have that little voice in the back of my mind. That was during the question. If I really did want to become an optometrist and started looking in a bit more to the business side. And even because I kind of had my blinders on for a long time like I wanted to do optometry, that's all I wanted to do. Alyssa Claymiller: And anyone who goes pre-med or pre-physical therapy knows that Alyssa Claymiller: all of those kind of decisions start a long time ago, like in high school, so it can be really hard to change your mind. but I think it's really important to listen to like your gut instincts and what you feel. because I'm really grateful for my science background. But and I think it's really helped in the career that I have now. But Alyssa Claymiller: but I I was starting to realize as I was preparing for up optometry school. I was starting to think I like. Well, I was like, maybe, like, you know, later on, after practicing for a while, I can like be one of those doctors who like helps with the pharmaceuticals of things that or is like the. Alyssa Claymiller: Sometimes there's physicians who Alyssa Claymiller: have a big influence on the research piece. Alyssa Claymiller: and I started to realize that I could just go right into medical device or pharmaceuticals. So I think that was what I decided that Alyssa Claymiller: that it was easier just to go with that route, then to go all the way through school and go a half 1 million, or like quarter 1 million in debt. Before coming to that conclusion. Megan Ray: It was a good thing. You caught yourself, Alyssa, probably right like in that process. So so one of the things that I think is is on the mind of the students observing this, they're all interested in business, right in some way, shape or form. Megan Ray: and are looking for a business degree outside of what the traditional business degrees are at the Kelley School. And so a couple of you have this sciences background. James. You have this background in econ and political science. But I'm wondering, too, just broadly. Are there folks around you who you know, who you work with, who are coming from different backgrounds other than a straight business degree who are doing things in your areas? And and if so, what were some of those paths? So that we can kind of open that up?

Fuhang Mou: I think those people that I work with now in my sales capacity and then in my marketing and market research capacity

Fuhang Mou: of of all backgrounds. Right? I I think once I I mean, once you graduate and you enter the corporate world, you realize that you're gonna meet people with all different sorts of majors. Yes, there is going to be a lot of business majors. But there's also going to be science, major political science. There's going to be everything. And it's really up to you at that point, to make sure that you are able to, you know, grow, grow in your role, learn what you need to to be successful in your role. It's really Fuhang Mou: I may may be the major right, your your college degree, your major, is the. Fuhang Mou: It's the thing to get you into the door in a corporate Urban America Company. But once you're in the door, it's really up to you to sustain your success and your learnings there. Megan Ray: If you want to add to that. Alyssa Claymiller: I would agree that in my ever since graduating college I've worked with people who come from all different Alyssa Claymiller: backgrounds, and it really is it? Alyssa Claymiller: It's more than just what your degree is on paper. It's it's the different Alyssa Claymiller: multifaceted type people that a strong organization wants to attract Alyssa Claymiller: and if they're only looking for one specific type of person or specific background, it's probably not a very diverse company. or doesn't value those kind of mindsets. So Alyssa Claymiller: I think that. like the degree that's on your paper isn't the end. I'll be all James Markwith: yeah, I'd completely agree. I'd say, speaking from experience at United. I know many people who they do have business degrees. I know many people who don't, or you know, social sciences, and what not James Markwith: I would say that most of the people that even if they had the business degree, what makes them stand out is they're interviewing skills. Their personality, like other, you know, aspects of the interview process, or being a good candidate, that kind of actually get you that job. So James Markwith: you know, if you. James Markwith: If you do end up getting a business degree, you're interested. That's great. It's gonna certainly, you know. Teach you things that will help you in the future. But even if you don't, you know, you can be successful regardless, that's what I Megan Ray: let's talk about what some of those skills and things are that you have to actually lean into right, like the other stuff that you did outside of the classes in your undergrad experiences. And I, too, hung. I'm gonna start with you. You know what were the things that you did outside of academics that help get you ready for where you are right now and then James will circle to you and then to Alyssa. Fuhang Mou: yeah, Megan, I think there was a lot of like leadership. Right? How do you work in a team. How do you work with other people? I think it's exactly what James just alluded to. Right? It's a lot of the kind of the social interactions that you're gonna have with the different people you're working with. Right? When you enter a corporate company, there's going to be a lot of different teams, a lot of different players with a lot of different opinions. And it's all about, how do you navigate the Fuhang Mou: the relationships that you're gonna have with each one of them, and that they have with each other. So it's a lot of I I think college is a great time to help, you understand. And really hone in on your kind of a relationship management. You're kind of, you know. Fuhang Mou: social navigating. And and that's gonna be really beneficial. As you enter the corporate world. Alyssa Claymiller: So some things I was involved in outside the classroom. I worked at the study of broad office after I studied abroad. And I found that that gave me a lot of great skills that I use in my career today. We would have Alyssa Claymiller: if you've ever seen like the tables out, for I use study abroads like that used to be me behind that table we did a lot of outreach and helping with the financial aid and their application process. Once they decide, they wanted to study brought and usually it. It's somewhat of a long planning process. Alyssa Claymiller: you know, at least 6 months before someone studies abroad and helping them get all the puzzle pieces put together for that to happen. You know their financial aid, or the classes going through even the nitty-gritty like, what do I pack like? How do I do this and that make a bank account when you get there? So helping people through that I feel like has helped me in what I do now, which Alyssa Claymiller: we help train the surgeons to do the robot surgery. And essentially it's again like a very long process, like there has to be a lot of ducks in a row, and so I feel like that was beneficial. Alyssa Claymiller: And then other than that I think. Alyssa Claymiller: find something you're passionate about and try to get a leadership role in it. I mean, it doesn't matter if it's in a real volleyball, and you're the team lead. Just find something that you're passionate about, because little examples like that can go a long way to in an interview. James Markwith: Yeah, I completely agree with what Alyssa said. Something I add on to that is just connect with your professors. You know they're a great resource. I had the opportunity of working pretty closely with Professor Broth. I don't know if anyone's here has had any experience with him. he taught introductory micro and macro James Markwith: And so I was a ugi for that class for about 2 years. And you know, through some I had a a good relationship with him, and just he kind of helped me along in a later years of college. So just connect with your professors especially use Linkedin. James Markwith: if you don't have a Linkedin account, you should definitely make one James Markwith: and also utilize handshake. So the school gives you a lot of tools for, you know, getting a job or networking, and I just recommend utilizing them. Megan Ray: You know, I really interested you talked about the networking stuff, and and these are students who are going into the start of the sophomore year. So networking is something they're familiar with. But Megan Ray: it's also probably still pretty dag on intimidating, right as you're going through that process when you're thinking about that. what was one of the things that you use like a tip or a trick that you use that you felt like. Once I figured this out it was a whole lot easier for me so, and I'll start with Alyssa, and then we'll go to Fuhong. And then, James. Alyssa Claymiller: so do you mean in terms of networking? Yeah, like either a conversation star or maybe that you had, or a story that you told about your experiences that helped connect, like all of those different things. Alyssa Claymiller: awesome, I think I think Alyssa Claymiller: bringing humor into it is always easy, or I, when your first meeting someone, sometimes even Alyssa Claymiller: just noting something that's happening around you can give you something quick to mutually bond over Alyssa Claymiller: whether I mean, like you're waiting in line for the bus or just anything. You can really start a conversation with anybody if you want But I would say also, just like as soon as you can just find mutual ground. And I feel like that helps people connect right off the back. Fuhang Mou: I I think it's just about like Fuhang Mou: getting used to the flow of these networking conversations right like when you're entering these networking conversations and making sure you understand what you want out of the conversation, and how Fuhang Mou: the conversation can move towards that. Right? Yes, you, wanna, you know, find what you have in common right to make the conversation a little more personable, and, and, you know, build the connection, but also make sure you keep in mind, and are moving a conversation towards the questions you want to ask right that are important to your career. The the reason why you're networking with them. So keep the end in mind and you know, over time. The more these kind of cold networking calls you have with people, the more familiar you'll be with the Fuhang Mou: the flow of it. I mean, they're all pretty similar. And and people people have advice they want to share. So make sure you are able to effectively listen. But James Markwith: yeah, I agree with what Fuhong and Alyssa said. And just to add on, I would say, You know, do your research? you know you don't want to be asking questions that James Markwith: you could find in a quick Google search. Or, if you know, if they've made it pretty obvious in their like profile, if you're doing a cold cold email or cold Linkedin message to someone. if you're trying to, you know, reach that connection. so you just want to kind of be prepared essentially. James Markwith: you know. Know what they do, what kind of sector they're in, maybe. I think a list all alluded to this. Just be caught up on current news in their sector. If you know, something big's happening in that industry just know about it. Maybe bring it up as a touching point. It could be as a starter for a conversation. Megan Ray: when you are doing that kind of research, James, and thinking about that right? Because I think that's so important to personalize the conversation. And you know not that you have to become a expert on their mission statement on their website or anything like that, but certainly reading it and understanding what things are important to the values of the company. Where did you get that kind of information. Were you just a Google fiend during that period of time? Or were you like using some other sort of process to figure that out? James Markwith: you know, using various new sort news websites, you know, if it's a finance related interview, you know, looking at Bloomberg, or, you know, financial times. I I believe our the Masters program gave us a free subscription in the financial time. So that was quite helpful in a few cases. other than that. Just Linkedin's James Markwith: obviously great James Markwith: posts in that industry, you know, you can see you can search that on there. But Google also always does the job. So where wherever you can find it, basically. Megan Ray: absolutely, we've had a question now from one of our attendees. That, I think, is a really strong one, and the question is, if you were in your sophomore year today, what would you do different than how it panned out for you, and why so? And, Alyssa, you have the unfortunate luck of being off on your mic right now. So I'm going to tag you first. Alyssa Claymiller: my sophomore year. I would. One thing that seems kind of random, but I probably would do it probably live a bit closer to campus, because I think Alyssa Claymiller: I've lived a little far off that year, and I feel like I could have been more involved on campus if I was closer, but I was kind of at the mercy of whatever the 9 bus or whatever I was on, whenever I could go on to campus and then also. Alyssa Claymiller: probably, if I wouldn't have the foresight. At that point I would have probably slowed down a bit on my science courses and trying to get a business minor Alyssa Claymiller: because I was close to having a business minor. I think I had pretty much everything besides accounting, and maybe like one of the Alyssa Claymiller: like, either Mac or micro Econ. One of those I was like pretty close to just being able to have a minor which doesn't Alyssa Claymiller: you know, like. Alyssa Claymiller: make or break like where I ended up today or anything, but I think it could have given me some insight that'd be helpful. Alyssa Claymiller: because. Alyssa Claymiller: yeah, ultimately, some of the science classes I was taking were pre-rex that I didn't end up meeting. But everything all happens for a reason, and I think some of those classes probably help me today, too. So but I I think just listening to the voice like, if you have doubts about where you're going. Alyssa Claymiller: have a conversation about Alyssa Claymiller: someone who's in that position and see how they really feel about it, because that was what started to change the script for me. you know, I spoke to some people in the the dream job I wanted. Alyssa Claymiller: and was finding out that they were as happy. And it is, I think I was hoping they would be so I think that's really important, too, is just asking them some of the the real questions. Alyssa Claymiller: If you need help deciding. Megan Ray: I think that's great. So what would you do if you could turn back time? Fuhang Mou: Me and I I think I would do exactly what I did. I I think sophomore year for me. I. I was like freshman year. I was like, Okay, I want to be a physician. And then, towards the end of freshman year, moving into sophomore year, I was like, Okay, maybe there are things outside of being a physician that I wanted to explore. So I spent maybe half a semester finding out. But I, if I wanted to be a lawyer? Right? And so the answer to that was, no. And then I Fuhang Mou: it's the business side of life sciences, and and I mean here I am now so sophomore year for me. It was like a Fuhang Mou: like a a time of career exploration. I think I I mean that that's important, right? As you determine what path you're going to take for the rest of college. And thereafter Megan Ray: that's a great point. So, and you you mentioned the life sciences, and I know that you and Alyssa both became involved in the Center for the Business of Life Sciences which is housed in the Kelley School, and it's open to students of any major program at I you, what was that experience like for you like, what do you feel like you got out of Cdl. Fuhang Mou: It it it was good. I I I think the center really gave students a good Fuhang Mou: understanding and contacts of how the life sciences, industry operates. So there's 2 courses. When when Alyssa and I were in the program, right? And and in each of these classes, industry, professionals from every single area of the industry would come in and talk to you about Fuhang Mou: what they did, and and that gave us great understanding into the rep, the the possibilities and and the options of jobs are out there. I I think normally, people just think of like, maybe like marketing finance right? But there's so many other things in the life, sciences, industry, that the courses in the center really gave us exposure to that. I was Fuhang Mou: very helpful. And then there were, I mean at Abbey right there were. There was a speaker that came from Abbey that spoke in one of our classes, and I mean I've been at the. Now I've been connecting with her. So it's important, right in that working to keep the connection Fuhang Mou: going into yeah, to just lean into the resources that you have around you to have that connection? Megan Ray: Okay. Alyssa Claymiller: a hundred percent agree. Alyssa Claymiller: What was one of my favorite things about that program? Was it opened my eyes to so many positions that I didn't even realize were available. I came from a small town in Indiana, and you know, realistically like. Alyssa Claymiller: if you were one of the brighter kids they kind of were like, Okay, you give me a doctor, a lawyer that was kind of like the like Alyssa Claymiller: we'll have they put you down so. But when I I realized that there was so much more because it brings you through everything from research, like the years and years of research that happens before I met even gets to the stage where it can get FDA approved. They had people from the FDA come in, and then Alyssa Claymiller: go into all the different types of medications and devices that are out there. and then even post-market stuff. So it really gives you a broad Alyssa Claymiller: idea of what all is out there. The other thing I really like to is that it is like professionals out there. I think sometimes. Alyssa Claymiller: you know, we just have our professors like for the whole semester, and we've got it was either two or three different presentations in each class. Alyssa Claymiller: that we're all from people out in the field, out in their profession. So I feel like you just got such like excitement and breath from that and it's also like an amazing networking opportunity. So that's that was one of the main reasons that I decided to change my mind and go more that direction, because I like found myself being excited to go to that class. Megan Ray: Hmm! Megan Ray: That's a good, a good indicator, and James will turn back time with you for a minute. If there's anything with the sophomore year that you could remember that you'd change as a part of that process. James Markwith: I kinda I agree with. what Fuhong, said I, I wouldn't change a thing. I certainly, you know, made mistakes earlier in college of taking a class. I shouldn't have you know, or whatever you want to say, but and roadblocks that came up, but you know they were all important, and, you know, led me to where I am so happy where I am. So I don't want to change anything Megan Ray: so out of the major programs that you all did, or your grad program also, James? In your instance, what were some of the courses that were really really helpful for you? That you were like, yeah, this really worked James Markwith: absolutely is one that stands out. Kinda got me proficient in excel and excel is used in every company. Just you gotta know. Excel. So if you want to go into business pick up that skill another one James Markwith: this is undergrad. Only us, right? So you could also add a course or 2 that you had in your grad program that you were like this just locked it down for me. Yeah, sure. So one in grad school that I took was called cloud based analytics. And it went into using power bi and some sequel skills. So those are becoming more and more important in James Markwith: a lot of businesses being able to analyze James Markwith: pull data, analyze data and visualize it. So those kind of skills will never go out of style. Basically. So I, you know, try to pick up at least one of those James Markwith: other courses that I just enjoyed. you know, that helped me James Markwith: intellectually, was just philosophy. I love philosophy got So reading that kind of stuff was a a a joy James Markwith: absolutely. How do you see how that exploration into philosophy has helped you now like, in terms of what you do day to day, whether it's work related or quality of life related quite frankly, because I think there's a piece of that, too. James Markwith: this one class. I took. You had to write a paper every week. It was about a 10 page paper every week, so I got a lot better at writing that semester. certainly. You have to write a lot in business, you need to, you know. Write drafts or put together a, you know, an email, professional email toward someone, maybe higher up. And it's gotta, you know, look good and sound. Good. So. James Markwith: yeah. Megan Ray: absolutely. And Alyssa were there courses that were stand out for you during your time. Alyssa Claymiller: so what helps me a lot in my current position is my, it's like anatomy. It was a teaching system for that that has really helped me. I think also, this is speech debate. Type classes can be helpful to Alyssa Claymiller: to learn how to like, take any kind of topic like they could throw at you, and and Alyssa Claymiller: come up with your opinion on it, I think, is helpful, too. Megan Ray: absolutely too long. What do you think? What were some classes that were stand out. Fuhang Mou: I think, other than the 2 center for the business of life sciences, courses where the different professionals came in. I took a class in the own new school on the pharmaceutical industry, and I think that was really helpful, right? So that gave me a good Fuhang Mou: understanding of how a drug kind of move through moves through the pipeline all the different players of it. formulary. Fuhang Mou: just a lot of different things that are, you know, pillars and the pharmaceutical industry, and and gives me a good foundation going into the industry. Megan Ray: So in that shift gears here just a little bit, let's say you talked about a study of broad experience, and I'd love for you to elaborate more on that. And if if either of you, who Hong or James have experiences like that, you want to say, or if you want to encourage a student to do it. please. By all means, I share that, you know. as we're going through that. But Alyssa's talk a little bit about that like what you got out of that experience. Megan Ray: what kind of stories it gave you to talk to folks about. And then you know, what should people think about if they're thinking about doing a study of broad type experience. Alyssa Claymiller: Yeah. So I actually got to study. Read twice. I did a short term study abroad, after my freshman year of college to the Dominican Republic, and it covered culture. in history. I forget it, was it? Alyssa Claymiller: It satisfied one of my general education requirements, I forget exactly which one, but I think probably the most fun way to cover that credit. So that was my first time out of the country. So that was an amazing experience, and we got to go all around the country of getting seen different sites. And then I did a semester study abroad to Australia, which was absolutely amazing. I don't think anything will ever live up to it in my whole life. Alyssa Claymiller: But what some of this skills that I gain from that that I could bring up and interviews is it really shows that you're adaptable and willing to accept change and inherently you just the more you see of the world the more you understand and can can have like Alyssa Claymiller: things to speak about with, you know. I'll run in or like, say, I meet someone from New Zealand, and I can talk about my. The time that I said to broaden was over there, too. It just really makes the world feel more connected. And getting to see different ways of life. It's always really helpful for Alyssa Claymiller: for setting abroad. This sooner you can start planning the better. I'm actually a big proponent of trying to study abroad as early as possible, because it makes it easier with your credit. transfers, because the longer you wait, the more specific Alyssa Claymiller: kind of classes you're getting into at the end of your Major, so in the beginning is definitely a good way to do it, and a lot of your scholarships can go a broader detail if you do. Alyssa Claymiller: Of those. Fuhang Mou: I never studied it abroad. I was going to, but and then Covid happened. So I didn't. But I think it's not. It's not necessarily about study abroad. It's just about these like types of experiential learning experiences that gives you more to speak to. Right, gives you more Fuhang Mou: life, experience and opportunities to hone in these like skills of communication team work Fuhang Mou: things like that. So what? Whether you study abroad or don't study abroad, it's important to lean into these experiences that you've had in your life, right? Whether it's whether it is study abroad, right? Whether you're in organization, whether you're, you know, in a in a team project. Right? What? What are these these like stories that you can tell people to highlight who you are? Megan Ray: That's a great story, and you're absolutely right. You all would have been right in the middle of that Covid, and would have really struggled from that. So that makes a ton of sense actually within that. So that's great, James. Anything to throw in there. James Markwith: I'd say. Foo Hong said it better than I would. Megan Ray: Well done. So it does seem to be really important. This collection of the stories through your undergrad experience that when you're walking into this thing, you're looking to make a connection with a person right, because that's part of the networking piece. But then you're also trying to figure out how to extrapolate what you've learned inside and outside the classroom to talk to those folks because they also want to know that you know your stuff right as you're going into this. And as you've looked at that process, you know, as you all are looking Megan Ray: to, what your next move might be right in your career. What are some of the things that you think are fundamentals that maybe we're missing from your undergrad degree, that you think that you ought to put back in like I know, James, you talked about excel, and about how like you just can't have too much right as you're going through that and and building up those skills. Megan Ray: But I mean wondering if there's also other things. Now, like I, you know, thinking about artificial intelligence, and how that's so very, very vastly changing the way that things are being done. Now, are there things like that that you all are seeing in your industries that you're thinking. Well, if I were in school right now, and maybe start to look at this, because I think I'm going to need that for my next leap. James Markwith: Yeah, it's certainly say, like strict coding would. If I was a genius, Coder, it would certainly be helpful in certain aspects of my job. But you know there's tools now where you you can kind of skate by with. you know, limited knowledge. It's coding. So if I mean, if you're interested in, it's a great skill to pick up so python or James Markwith: C. Any of these kind of more James Markwith: you. You know James Markwith: usable coding languages I'd certainly recommend at least having a baseline knowledge about, or if you're super interested and maybe pick it up completely. So Fuhang Mou: I'm in marketing and sales. And I I I think the digital marketing Fuhang Mou: stuff. I I I think that would be really valuable for suit students right now to home in. I I think it's it's definitely blooming in the industry and Fuhang Mou: that will have a lot of value. Once you guys graduate Alyssa Claymiller: for me, I don't. There's nothing I can think of in particular. what I would say Alyssa Claymiller: is just making like certain you're choosing a company that Alyssa Claymiller: gives the resources. If you want to continue to learn. this, I think. Alyssa Claymiller: personally, I think out of college one of the best size companies to try to shoot for is mid to large, because they will have more resources for you to do, continued education. but also, sometimes smaller companies. You're wearing a lot of hats, and you kind of get forced to learn very quickly. So, but I think it's important that when you're interviewing to to ask what kind of continued learning they have? because ideally, they they have the resources there to help set you up for the next position. Megan Ray: Absolutely. That's really helpful. So so E. Another question that I, I think, is helpful to folks. Could you all give us? And I know that in the world of work there is no typical day, right? But over the course of a week could you give us an idea of like 3 or 4 job related tasks that you all are doing. that might be helpful in kind of illustrating what a routine experience might be like in your particular area. Megan Ray: And Alyssa, we want to start with you. And then Fuhong. And then, James. Alyssa Claymiller: yeah. So Alyssa Claymiller: my typical day, which I cover a territory basically, all of Northern Indiana, so about from Carmel and then Michigan cities. About the first West I go. I'm in a hotel right now. I usually am not traveling for work, but as a component if I don't want to drive 2 and a half hours in the morning to get down to Indy. But Alyssa Claymiller: I would say, normal part of my day is, I mean, multiple surgeries helping. This is the surgeon during that procedure. So it'd be a hysterectomy, or they're taking someone's gallbladder out of call it cholecystectomy. Alyssa Claymiller: helping support them with the robot. It's a big piece of equipment. So, being a support to them helping teach them anything. that they don't know like about it. And then also another piece that we do is we're here at the residence. So now residents learn Alyssa Claymiller: robotics Alyssa Claymiller: while they're going through that. So helping assist with that, and also training up new surgeons and then sometimes mixed in there as conferences Alyssa Claymiller: and I will say that even when I graduated college, if you were told me I'd be in the operating room and I could give a surge in the suggestion, or I'll teach them something. I just want to believe you. So Alyssa Claymiller: yeah, every day is a little bit different different hospitals. Alyssa Claymiller: But yeah, that's typically what it's like. Fuhang Mou: So I'm in sales right now, right and then, sales. I I mean, like a list of every day is very different in sales. in pharmaceutical sales. I'm probably Fuhang Mou: going to an office, you know, trying to. Fuhang Mou: Yeah, I'll see the doctor share about my my drug with the doctor, and maybe having lunch with a doctor. Maybe there's a dinner program. There's like a variety of different different things we can do to kind of share our product to the physician when I was in in marketing and market research, so a more like in house, like a like an office corporate job Fuhang Mou: and that that was a lot of meetings, right? A lot of meetings to push different projects forward. And Fuhang Mou: I I I I think, in both sales. And then these marketing market research kind of in-house capacity. It's really about you, and and how you push projects forward. Right? You dictate your day and kind of Fuhang Mou: you know who you need to meet with here. You need to talk to and Fuhang Mou: and then you move projects forward that way. James Markwith: Yeah, I'd really hone it on what for Long said with the meetings a lot of meetings every day. at least for me personally, you know, we I work remotely a lot. So a lot of teams calls with either directors, managers, you know, going over certain reports that I've up together. for you know various events or James Markwith: you know, projects on our team that we're we're working towards. But my kind of you know, daily responsibilities. I cover Africa, India, and the Middle Africa, India in the Middle East for pricing. And so I'm looking at markets and just making sure that we stay competitive with American and Delta. So James Markwith: it's kind of a James Markwith: you know. There, there are certain aspects of my job which are routine. And then there are certain aspects which are change every day. So it's a good mix of both. And James Markwith: yeah changes. By the I'd say by the month. Mostly Megan Ray: that's super helpful. So now, thinking about back to your college days, right? So, as you were doing this, what were the kinds of clubs and organizations that you became a part of that maybe you haven't mentioned yet. Or how did they change from when you were in your first or second year until a later part of the year. Because I, Megan Ray: one of the things that I think is really interesting about the college experience is that a student might be involved in something in their first year, and then be involved in something completely different that they love by their senior year. So it I, James, if you want to jump back into this and tell us a little bit about some of those things that you were involved in, that you found valuable outside of the classroom. James Markwith: sure, I wasn't in too many clubs. I did take part in the Economics Club and the you know. I I think I touched on that. I was a undergraduate instructor for the economics. Other than that. I didn't. I didn't really play sports for the school, or I wasn't really a part of any intramural or that kind of stuff. James Markwith: from when I was there things James Markwith: mostly stayed the same. I'd say up until Covid, of course, and then, you know, didn't really do much from then on in the school, as a virtual for most of junior year, and then back a little bit of senior year, so I would say, not much changed from at least freshman the senior, but James Markwith: certainly was fun. And those experiences helped. Okay. Megan Ray: yes, and Alyssa. Alyssa Claymiller: So I was around my freshman year. I was a part of the Jill Beerman 5 K. Color run. I did that for a few years, and then trying to think what all I did. I Alyssa Claymiller: a lot of part of what I did, too, that I don't know if everyone knows about that. You can be like a test participant if for different scientific studies. I like to do that as a little bit of extra cash. When I was in college. then I usually had a job going on. I I don't know if we can consider that an extracurricular but yeah, as Alyssa Claymiller: like. I said I was a teaching assistant for anatomy. Then I step study broad office. And then, because of that job ended up getting Alyssa Claymiller: a job at the office of equity diversity, multicultural affairs to help them select which scholarships they are giving out. And then other than that, I'm trying to think I did inner meal volleyball. I feel like it's always, if you can, to have one. That's just purely fun like in social. I feel like that's good to have if you have time for it in your schedule. Alyssa Claymiller: And then I also did like a volunteer kind of program like it. It was Alyssa Claymiller: I took a Grant writing class and so like it was required to do so many hours of volunteering. And then you at the end you'd write a grant for the organization. So I did the volunteering at my sister's closet. Alyssa Claymiller: So really cool organization. you can get business close there. It's been essentially like a thrift store. But the proceeds go to helping women get Alyssa Claymiller: fulfilling careers and employment. So Alyssa Claymiller: I recommend going. Fuhang Mou: I did a bunch of like, like student leadership type, things like like with the Union Board, right? like a events and different leadership opportunities for students. I I I think it's pretty consistent. from freshman a senior year. Megan Ray: That's great, that's really great. So I think, what are some of the things that you all have found in terms of transitioning into the communities that you live in right now, like, how have you created communities or created friendships? Really outside? Because that's something that I do here from some of our recent grad sometimes is. Megan Ray: and it was really hard to get connected to folks right away. And certainly you always have your user family right? But sometimes it's hard to get to alumni events and to do those sorts of things. And some nice the folks going to. Those aren't necessarily the younger alumni right? Who you might want to connect with. How have you all done that like? How have you expanded your circles now that you're in Megan Ray: a different life period. Megan Ray: Oh, yeah, too, Hong, you go ahead. I see you thinking. Fuhang Mou: I I think it depends on what city you're in, and and different ways to meet people. are better in different cities like. So I'm in Raleigh right now and meet up is a big thing in Raleigh. Raleigh has a lot of young professionals, so I I think, meet up is a good way to meet people here, or there's tons of Fuhang Mou: like random young professional clubs. I do a lot of running. So there's like a running club every single day of the week here when I was in Chicago, I mean, there were tons of running club. There were. Fuhang Mou: I mean it just like a a lot of different like opportunities to me Fuhang Mou: people our age. That's great. Alyssa Claymiller: Yeah. So I definitely agree with what he said. Because when I first graduate I moved to Philadelphia and I was doing pharmaceutical sales out there and then Covid hit. Alyssa Claymiller: and we all went remote, and I honestly love being remote for about 2 years or so. But that's was one of the main things I was missing. I felt like I wasn't having Alyssa Claymiller: like the social Alyssa Claymiller: that I needed to be happy. And at the time I was in a small town, Indiana like I moved back, and so that was part of it, too, like, unless I wanted to hang out with people from high school like Alyssa Claymiller: that was my options. But I think some of the ways that can be fun is even if you go on Facebook and go on to events. You can see different events that's going on like I've met people from going to like a free Yoga Alyssa Claymiller: so class that was happening in it apart, and always just building off the the social circle that you have And then also, like Alyssa Claymiller: he said to Bumble, Bfs. you can find people who have similar interest to you, because it's not. Alyssa Claymiller: It depends on where you are. I think the bigger city you're in. Usually it's easier. But if you're in a somewhat small. Alyssa Claymiller: so a place that might might feel harder, especially when we're used to just like being in college and everyone being around our same age and going through a similar phase of life. Alyssa Claymiller: So it's something you have to give more Alyssa Claymiller: of a specific focus in your twenties or your twenties. Once you're out of school James Markwith: yeah, I completely, agree you know from my grad program, our our grad program class was about I think 60 students, and I'd say about half of them with moved to Chicago to work. So I have a pretty good James Markwith: close knit group of friends from that that live here and work in the city. And so, you know, I I'm thankful for that. And other than that, you know. You just meet people through work, and you meet people, friends of friends, and you know you kind of just grow your circle like she said over time. So certainly there are other ways to, you know. If you just you just randomly meet someone out in like the clubs like they said, and those are all good options. But Megan Ray: and it, James, how did you make that decision like you said you wanted to focus a little bit more tailored on the finance piece. Right? But I'm thinking about you're getting this degree in Econ and political science. And then you decide to stay for another year and do this program. So what was really kind of the primary drivers for that decision making for you? Because some folks would say like, Listen, I have done my undergraduate degree. I am out. I want to be pulling down a salary like Megan Ray: what is up with that. So why, why did you decide to wait. James Markwith: Yeah, certainly. So I when I first graduated in 2,021, it was kind of in that Covid era, and I didn't feel like I had the end of my college experience completely. It was kind of, you know, stolen for me whatever you want to call it And so, going back for that last year. It was kind of my, you know, the true end to my like college career, I guess you could say. James Markwith: and really glad I did it, because it was, you know, probably the best best year on campus I had. you know, it was the kind of the surge of coming back to I you every everyone was so just happy to be there. James Markwith: Other than that, you know. It was also just it made sense because I I read some study where you know in a down economic downturn there, it's a good idea to just get more education. It's kind of when people go back to school. So it, it's it was. Certainly just it looked good from all fronts, basically. And the program itself I had, I actually had gotten in the end of my junior year. So I kind of James Markwith: I actually, I think I said yes, right at the beginning of senior year. And it was just my goal from then on to just do that. So Megan Ray: yeah, that makes a ton of sense. So well, we just have a few minutes left in our panel. So I want to make sure that I ask our attendees if they have any other further questions to please put those into the Q. A. And I'm gonna ask you all, these are young people trying to make some decisions looking at their futures. What would be a piece of advice that you would share with them, I knowing that over the next 3 years they're going to be Megan Ray: figuring out a career and getting a job and doing all of those different things right? So that's the final question that I'm gonna ask you. In the meantime, though, what I would like to ask you all. And I'm gonna start with you to ask, how did you get your first job out of college? What's the story of that, because I think that part feels super intimidating, and we'll go Alyssa Fuhong. And then, James. Alyssa Claymiller: so Alyssa Claymiller: it's a super stressful time. that's another thing to the earlier you can plan for that the better, because I started mainly looking for jobs after I graduated and I had actually received a job offer from a pretty good place, but it was. Alyssa Claymiller: or earlier before I graduated, but I felt like Alyssa Claymiller: I didn't want to take the first thing that I got but Alyssa Claymiller: I think so. Mine. I'm pretty sure I found my first one on Linkedin. It wasn't necessarily like through someone I knew. I just was applying for things, and the the more in interviews I had, the more it was helping me narrow down exactly what I wanted. I think I kind of shot for the moon a little bit too fast that I thought I'd be able to get like a manager role right out of college. So Alyssa Claymiller: I think. it's good to know to that, you know it like we all have to be at the bottom of the total hole at some point and work our way up so Alyssa Claymiller: I don't know if that makes any sense but Alyssa Claymiller: But you can always like, if even if you're just interested in something. You can always try interviewing for it if you get an interview, you know it's always Alyssa Claymiller: even if that ends up, not being the one you take. You'll learn something from it Megan Ray: absolutely. Fuhang Mou: I found mine on Linkedin. fall of senior year during the race recruiting cycle. Fuhang Mou: Happy does a lot of recruiting on campus I but I I found mine through up through Linkedin James Markwith: So I got the interview for my job through handshake, which is a service that in Indiana University offers. it kind of just it's like it's basically another Linkedin, but it pairs you directly with like the hiring Hr person to to get an interview specifically. it's not not really for networking James Markwith: So that kind of. James Markwith: you know, led to. James Markwith: you know, interview one. And that went well interviewed to. you know most of these interviews there, 2 to 3 partners. you know. So if you're feeling stressed, it's completely understandable. It is a stressful time, but just in general it'll work out, you know. Just take a breath and kind of James Markwith: Prepare as well as you can, and if you know, the opportunity doesn't work out, it wasn't meant to be. You'll get something else. So that's what I'd say. Megan Ray: absolutely. And, James, you've had a specific question roll into the Q. A. For you asking, was there a specific thing that you learned through your Econ and Political Science Degree that you unexpectedly found to be helpful in real world applications. James Markwith: There are certainly many things from those degrees that help me. They were about it. I don't know if they would be unexpected. certainly the Econ stuff I use basically every day. James Markwith: But I guess what was unexpected was just how much I actually just enjoyed the material itself. you know, reading James Markwith: these, you know. Not not really the textbooks, but they were more books. That kind of talked about the the theory behind the thought of economics. Right? And so, you know, I now I read Econ related books just in my free time. So James Markwith: certainly certainly interesting in it of itself, and not just from a textbook. I'd say the textbook is the most boring part of learning, but the you know, ideas behind them is, what's James Markwith: what's actually stimulating? Megan Ray: That's great. Thanks so much. Megan Ray: And, Alyssa, I, as you're thinking, what advice do you have for these folks? Alyssa Claymiller: I think, never stop learning. always have a curious spirit. whether it's just finding a podcast, that you're interested in and listening to that on the way to work. Always have something that you're learning and growing education does. It does not stop when you graduate. Alyssa Claymiller: or at least I don't think it should. So and find a career that challenges you in the right ways. so that you don't get board. Fuhang Mou: I I think I would advise you all to really like, lean into your college experience and really get all that it has to offer right. All the people that you meet in college are going to be very important for you, not only in your career, but in your life. Fuhang Mou: And then all the experiences that will teach you different lessons, or just lean into your college experience. And Fuhang Mou: I mean, why, what, James? And at the end of the last question, right? What's to just just kill out, and what's yours will come to you, and and just go with the flow Megan Ray: in it. James. Any of last advice for students. James Markwith: Last advice I I think I've James Markwith: I think I've basically said that. James Markwith: You know, I would say it again just James Markwith: it'll be fine. Yeah, that's all I can say. I don't know I was to say, but yeah, good luck to everyone in this call. So Megan Ray: yeah, I think that's really really great. So I just want to thank you all so much for your time. Yeah. And one of the questions that squeaked in here at the last minute was, did you think you were to disadvantage looking for these kinds of jobs versus someone doing a traditional business degree right in that process. And it I I heard you all say that like perhaps Megan Ray: getting in the door. It may have been a little bit easier, but maybe not right like, because you had such a unique perspective. You, James, what do you think? James Markwith: for getting in the door? James Markwith: You know I actually I I've never been on the side of the hiring manager, so I can't. I can't really say if that's true or not. James Markwith: but I do know from what you can control. It's just how you craft your own story and your kind of what? What you're driven by. You know. What makes you passionate about the job that you're applying for. that's the only thing that you can really control. And I would just say to kind of refine that, you know. Megan Ray: that's great. And Alyssa Foo Hong, what do you think? Fuhang Mou: Yeah, I I think it's all about how you craft your own story when I was like making the transition to a more business career path. I mean, I was thinking about. Should I switch to a business, major? Right? But I decided that I would stay with a science major, because Fuhang Mou: I thought and I I mean Fuhang Mou: that it would give me a competitive edge, right? I knew everybody else applying to the jobs that I wanted to get would be a business major right. There would be very few Science majors, let alone science majors that knew and understood the connection between the business and the science. So really understand your story and what your competitive edges and Fuhang Mou: and and lean into that? Alyssa Claymiller: Yeah, I. And for me, I didn't feel disadvantaged with having my science degree. I think Alyssa Claymiller: a lot of people respect science degrees. They know they're not easy. you know. Alyssa Claymiller: I think, is specifically in me and Alyssa Claymiller: industries where it's it is respected to to have a background in science. some some positions matter more with how much science and how much business there is going to be. But having. I feel Alyssa Claymiller: like learning. Science in a structured way, like in college, is easier to learn tough subjects in school like that, where I feel like a lot of business knowledge. You can learn Alyssa Claymiller: either so low or Alyssa Claymiller: like, like. Figure out what you need as you go. Alyssa Claymiller: depending on the role. So Alyssa Claymiller: that's at least how it works out for me. And and I'm happy that that's how I did that things. Fuhang Mou: Yeah, it really just depends on where you want to lean into right. So if you're a like a science major, and you want to lean into our more business role, then like that, then, you know. Make sure you understand the Fuhang Mou: kind of the business, transferable skill aspect of your science role. Right? If you're I mean, just lean into what about your profile Fuhang Mou: lends itself to where you want to go, and and those skills that can carry you there Megan Ray: absolutely. Megan Ray: I can't thank you all enough. I truly can't. So I am always humbled by the generosity of fellow hoosiers. And as an alumna of I you myself from the journalism program many, many decades ago. I just want to thank you all for your time and your energy and your enthusiasm, and Megan Ray: appreciate so much. You're taking time out of your schedules to spend time with these students and to share your stories, which are inspiring and really exciting. And I'm thrilled to see what comes next for you all. So thank you also very much. I'm going to go ahead and close our panel this evening. Take care, and have a very good rest of your day, morning or evening. Thanks so much. Bye, bye. Alyssa Claymiller: thank you. Oh, I I guess last little thing I'll say is, I'm sure the other panelists feel the same. You can always feel free to add us on Linkedin. If you have anything that we would be able to help with in the future, always willing to help another user. Alyssa Claymiller: Oh, thanks, Alyssa, great! Megan Ray: It's great bye.

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Well, hello. Welcome. We're excited to see you here. Thank you all for being here. We've just got a few more folks trickling in, so we'll probably give them just a couple more minutes if you all could bear with us. So I am super proud of you all for taking time out of a precious, what is in Bloomington, summer evening, when you are on a countdown to get back to school to tell you that you are doing great stuff for yourself by being here to learn a little bit more about this. So and I'm so excited for you all to spend time with my colleague Trenton Rowlett. He is awesome and you are going to have a great experience. definitely tell that some of you have already kind of caught on about the upcoming poll that you already probably see on your screen so for added clarification as we're kind of getting started since we're talking about career fair and our confidence and how to increase it we thought it would be really helpful for us to know where people stand so if you don't mind rank your confidence level, one to 10. One being no confidence at all, maybe you wouldn't even step into a career fair, and a 10 being you have zero hesitation. You'd walk in immediately, you know exactly what to do, and feel 100% comfortable in how you're going to navigate it. Slow down on the admissions, Trenton, so from the waiting room. So I think whenever you're ready, and I'll just keep an eye on this to make sure that nobody gets left behind. Awesome. Thanks. Hi, everyone. We want to welcome you, Megan Ray and myself, to a webinar specifically talking about career fairs and really just wanting to increase to see how comfortable you all could be even more so preparing for the fall semester to start. So to give you some introductions, I'll start with myself and I'll turn it over to Megan. My name is Trenton Roulette and I am a career coach and my specialties are in serving business, retail, and technological industries and I serve the College of Arts and Science students on campus. Luckily though, I have this like really immense privilege with our Assistant Dean Joe Lovejoy that we want to serve as many students who have interest as possible. So I actually open up my services for these industries campus-wide. So whether you're at Kelley in pre-business or at Luddy, School of Public Health Education, I'm happy to also work with you individually on these industries as well. So I'll turn it over to Megan. Yes, thanks so much. And my name is Megan Ray, and I'm the director of Kelley Campus Partnerships at the Business School. And I wanted to just share with you all I'm so thrilled you all are here because as you can see from the results of the poll we have a very wide range of places where folks are at right now right and probably the vast majority of folks kind of on the fence like I'm kind of okay with it but I'm not sure yet so our goal is to push you as far as we can down the scale towards feeling more confident by the end of this session so thank you all so much for choosing to be here and we're excited to work with you. Yeah. Very cool. Okay. So really, I think in getting started, we want to like really hit on this like dysfunctional untrue belief in terms of like, that you might be limited in what career fairs you can attend. So if the question is, which fairs can I attend on campus? The answer is absolutely every single one. Whether it is at Kelley, the College of Arts and Sciences, Luddy, all of these career service offices are absolutely so collaborative and wanting to allow everyone to attend a career fair that best serves their career paths and their own life design. Sometimes we know that there are challenges, right, that come along with that process. And what we found is that there are probably a few specific steps that if you want to really knock it out of the park. If you want to attend a career fair, regardless of which school you belong, these steps might help you to do it in the absolute maximized impact way possible. So really those five steps are one, you got to register. We're going to teach you a little bit about how to research the opportunities that are there, how to reflect on what are the things that make you as a candidate stand out, how to rehearse for the big day, and finally how to ready yourself for when that day eventually comes. And before we head on any forward, I just want to really make sure that everyone feels that we're on the same page about how this process will talk about this today. Is that one, Megan and I are actually recording this webinar to benefit some students maybe that didn't make it today as possible. So if you have a question, feel free to raise your hand or to unmute yourself and to say it if you feel so inclined that like the moment is right then in order to ask it. Or if you need, feel free to drop a message in the chat. Megan Ray will be monitoring it throughout the webinar today. And then at the end of our presentation today, we're actually gonna turn off the recording and then we can have a bit of a moment of more candid interjections where of course we can answer any questions at that point for anyone that maybe doesn't want to be recorded and that would be okay. So again, you gotta register, you gotta research, you got to reflect on what makes you you and then you have to rehearse and you need to be ready when you show up. So step one, you really want to check the boxes for what other career fairs you want to be at regardless of major, regardless of discipline. So the best way to do that is of course through Handshake. So when you all are there, obviously you all access Handshake to join us this evening, you're going to want to click on this left tab that says events and then you're going to want to click on career fairs at your school, which actually means career fairs on your campus. That's a little bit more interchangeable here. And you might find a host of different events and we'll provide a calendar for you a little bit later today. And then as you're looking, some things that you might want to keep in mind is you are probably going to see career fair events that fall under the topic of in-person or in virtual. And of course, there are going to be pros and cons to either avenue or medium, generally just depending on what you're looking for. Sometimes when we are figuring out, how do I understand my worth? How do I convey that to an employer? Some of us do better in person. We want to be more than someone on paper. And so in person, career fairs are maybe the place for you, a place to show up and be a more holistic being. um the pros you have to show up uh two uh sometimes our nerves can get the best of us and sometimes there's a waiting game there's a line there's a lot of people it might get a little warm um and so we kind of have to weigh the pros and cons on how to navigate that on the other hand there's virtual uh on virtual you're gonna have to really prepare your technology does your camera work does your background look professional um how do you interject if you're in a group setting like you can kind of see here? Or does it feel more pressure when it's one-on-one with employer? So thinking about for yourself which one feels right and maybe you try out both and see which one works for you more so in the future. The next really big thing we need to do is research. Dysfunctional belief that sometimes we encounter with students all the time and sometimes with our staff as well is that when you go to a career fair that your objective is to talk to as many humans as possible. And we're here to tell you that's absolutely not always going to be the case. That really, when we talk to recruiters at the end of a career fair, we're like, hey, thanks for coming. Hey, what students stood out to you and why? We sometimes start to see trends. And one trend that we see a lot is that recruiters will tell us that sometimes students come up to them and they're like, hey, nice to meet you. What does your company do? And as you can imagine for a recruiter who's come to Bloomington in order to meet you all, because you're the experts on the next workforce of entry level, that doesn't always feel great, right? They want people to come and meet them because they're so excited that their individual company is there, or maybe because they have a very specific job opportunity, internship opportunity. So what I would really recommend is when you think about attending a career for this fall, Don't walk in and wing it because most people don't do that. Instead, I would look at the list on Handshake, click events, click career fairs, click the one that you think speaks to you and look at a few others even too, and look at the different opportunities. If you think real estate and investment industries are right for you, SANS Investment Group is actually going to be at the College of Arts and Sciences career fair. And what we can see is that they actually have offices like across the southeastern United States. We see that they're going to be hiring probably for junior commercial real estate brokers. And so for those of you in business majors and economics, you probably know more about what a broker is than Megan or I do. So really looking at these nitty kind of details is important. Also important is to see, well, are they looking to fill internships, jobs, one or the other? Is it full-time opportunities and part-time? And then sometimes also looking for work authorization. If you are an international student and seeking OPT approval or CPT approval, if you're graduating, it may be important to look at this. But I want to add a disclaimer. This information is not the end-all be-all for what is truly representative of these employers. I'm sure each and every one of us, at some point in the last year, we bought a new phone, a new software, and at some point, someone said, here are the terms and conditions, click that you acknowledge them below. And most of us aren't reading the fine print, right? We just click it and we say, I'm good to go. Sometimes employers do that too. So some employers say they're open to accepting OPT candidates. Sometimes employers don't say that they're accepting, but actually they are. They just don't know the process. So look at this information to gain data, to find out what's important to you that might stand out. But know that when you get in a person that like some things can change and we can adapt our strategy dependent. So I would recommend pick two to four companies, really invest in understanding their client needs, the type of work they do, the type of companies they are, and really research them. So when you step up and it is your turn to speak to a recruiter on campus, you make it clear, hi, I'm Trent Rowlett, and I'm so excited you were here. I saw you on Handshake, and I know that you're hiring for a broker position, and I'd love to talk to you a little bit more about it. It's really the difference of communicating that you're not looking for a job or an internship. You're looking for the job and internship, and that's what makes you stand out. So here are maybe two big ways to research. One, Google search, New York Times search, looking up GuideStar for nonprofits. And what you're going to find is that really quickly you can gain really fast data in terms of what is going on with these specific businesses in their specific industry. SANS Investment Group, I can tell you they just won a web design award recently for redoing their website. They actually just hired a brand new exec out of the real estate industry in Florida. His job is going to be expanding their company throughout the Southeast even further. Those are going to be two cool things that when you talk to a recruiter, come up in conversation that really makes you stand out and it's going to make you the person that's rememberable, which is the goal. the next thing is if any of you are on linkedin um this is a great place to look when we look at sans investment group as just an example we can see they're kind of a smaller office okay well there are less than 20 employees are there any iu alumni there that might give us some data or oh are there any that clearly are running the program running the internship program we could maybe reach out to for an informational interview to find out, you know, more about the company and their impact. One of the things I found is that they actually have a one intern right now named Grace, where as a student, how easy and approachable it could be to message Grace to say, hey, I'm also a business-oriented student in the Midwest, and I see you're doing the internship. I see they're coming to my career fair. Tell me more about the program if you don't mind. This kind of connection might be an easy way to network at a level playing field that's a little more approachable that might really stand out when it comes time to apply. So research as much as possible because this is the goal. When you go to the career fairs, you're going to see that there are typically two different types of students and we're all part of that. That's okay. But sometimes when we haven't done our research, we walk around, we look a little bit more solemn, we spend more time on our phone because we're not sure where we belong in the moment. And so one of the easiest ways to overcome that like level of imposter syndrome, which is such human nature for all of us, if you wanna be just like her, smiling, approachable, excited, is you do your research on just a few companies, look for quality over quantity, and it can really empower you to like take charge of yourself, of the room, and the experience you're trying to get out of it. But hey, we've got some time before September, before the first official career fair starts. So it's really important to take a second to reflect on like, what are the things that are going to make you feel absolutely as powerful as can be when you enter that room? Because this picture you can see, like this is a student who is absolutely in their element. They look calm, they look cool, they look collected, they look casual. And so it's clearly a representation of them knowing who they are and what they want. So here's some ideas. And this is kind of a long exhausting list. So don't feel intimidated quite yet. But really think about like, what are the experiences that made you you? Think about yourself five years ago. Like what made you even think about like, why you picked your major? What, how do you even know that it's the right one for you? And some of those experiences might be the things that make you special. Think about your network. If you're really wanting to go into finance, who did you know in finance? Was it a movie? Was it media? Was it an uncle? Was it a cousin? Was it an older sibling? A parent? What is the network of how you gain information? I'd really be thinking about your classes. Our classes are more than just, you know, boxes that we check to say we attend. They're experiences that really shape us and how we talk about ourselves and our story. So I would really reflect on like what classes specifically make you you in this professional way. Some of us have internships. Some people have volunteer work. Some have job shadows. Those are way all different levels of investment. And it's OK to have one, but not all three or two or sometimes you have none. And that's OK. Really looking at what student organizations you can be a part of as a way to tell your story. Maybe you have a part-time juror job, excuse me. But last but not least, you could have none of these things, but maybe you have your research on the companies that you're going to talk to, and that might be enough. So I write check-in here as a way to like just take a breath of the room is to know that like you all gave a number a few minutes ago as to what your confidence level is. And to know that like you've spent 20 years of your life at this point for some of you to be a five out of 10. Maybe you've spent your entire life to be a 4 out of 10. So nothing we're going to do today in one hour is going to suddenly be like, you're a 10 out of 10. Go out above the world. Keep on keeping on. So know that if you're a 5 today, we might become a 5 out of 5. But we might have some plans in place that you know what to do to become a 6 or a 7. So just know wherever you're at, that's a perfect place to be. That's a perfect place to start. But our hope is you might have an action item and plan by the end to say, this is what's going to get me just one step further. And then we work together to building block up. It's just different for everybody. So just come as you are. So one of the big questions we get, well, if you're going to go to a career fair, how do companies select their candidates at all? And what we know is that they're really picking on these three things. What is your value? What is your vibe? And what is your voice? And that is to say, when we talk to employers about, hey, you have 50 applicants, how do you pick one? What they tell us is they're not picking you based on your major. They're not picking the one of you with the best resume. They're not going to necessarily pick the one of you that has the best GPA of the group. They may not pick the person with the best network. What we know is that they're going to pick the person who has their value in check, their vibes in check, and their voice. Because what this means is value is like, do you know what you bring to the table? What makes you, you, what are your vibes? Are you a person that can come in like them and just be calm, cool, and casual and, and own yourself and own the room? What are the vibes of how you understand the company and their needs? And three, what is the voice? And sometimes that means is, can we be conversational? Are you coming up to a recruiter and saying, what is it that you do? Are you coming up and saying, Hey, I know that you are really working on expansion. Hey, I'd love to hear an update since that article. How's it going? To be a conversationalist, someone that they want to spend time around. So if you can find these three things for yourself, it's an easy way to make yourself stand out. So here's how you do it. We get questions all the time about like, what do you even say? You know, as you're waiting in line with friends or with strangers to talk to like one recruiter, or sometimes you have tables with two or three, What do you say in a short little moment to maximize the chances of an interview? And these are the things I would check your boxes for. One, say your name. That is your brand. It is your calling card. And it is okay to own it in whatever way, shape, or form your name occurs. So open it up so that way it's the first thing that they remember. There's the psychological experience. Psychologists call it the primacy effect where they remember the very first thing. So if you can open yourself up with your name to introduce yourself and a handshake and a gesture, that may be the thing they remember when they look at applications. Look at resumes and be like, oh, I remember Megan. That was great. You might want to add a little bit about your background. So what are your majors? What are your career interests? What got you there? Kind of keep it succinct. Make a connection with the person you're speaking to. These are everyday people like you and I. And sometimes at your career fairs, these are former students of IU. who have been where you are, who are now in roles where they have a strength in communication and talking to people and in talking about strengths and weaknesses. So find a connection that you might have. And I'll give you some examples here in a minute. You always need to have a question. You don't want these introductions to be one-sided where you're just speaking. You want it to be a quick, brief conversation back and forth. So I would be prepared to have a question that's really specific to that organization or make an ask. It's a really good opportunity to show a tailored interest in the company. What are the things that make a candidate stand out to you on paper? I'd love to hear more. Hey, so you have a broker internship. What are the type of candidates that you're looking for here in Bloomington today? And then last but not least, whenever you leave a recruiter, I kind of always recommend finding out, well, what's the best way to keep in touch with you? Hey, Megan, thank you so much for your time and energy. Before I go, do you have a card I might take with me? Or do you prefer, are you comfortable with people if they message or follow you on LinkedIn? Really answering that question is an easy way to make sure that you know clearly what are the expectations moving forward. And it's a real way that's forward thinking that might stand out. So here's an example. You might walk up to SANS Investment Group at the College of Arts and Sciences Career Fair and start with saying, hi, I'm Trent Roulette. I'm a junior at IU. I'm majoring in economics and I got a certificate in real estate. This past summer, I interned, I volunteered, I job shadowed with a local real estate firm. And I was able to gain some experience in market research and understanding how do you support client presentations. That's what that's telling you is, hey, I have value to bring to you and your company. Maybe you might say, hey, I've been really becoming interested in brokerage because I enjoy relationship building, but I really want to help clients identify investment. And I know you guys have been growing your team in the Southeast. I was reading all about it in the Florida Times. I noticed you're actually now hiring for a broker internship. This is about vibes. You're telling me like, oh, you actually know a little bit about us. I'm immediately going to be impressed. And then say, hey, could you just share some qualities that you might be looking for in candidates who maybe want to move into, you know, the brokerage career field. This is about showing your voice. You've now made this an entire conversation where suddenly I have something to offer and we can kind of go back and forth. This is a really key winning strategy. So, hey, if you're reflecting on, these are the three things that are an absolute must if you want to be the competitive professional at your career fair. One, your degree. Two, strategic experiences. And three, in your story. But you have to know these things have to coincide together. If you have experiences, but you can't convey why your classes matter, why your major matters, or maybe you have a major that you've settled on that wasn't your first choice, what that might indicate as a yellow flag to recruiters is that you aren't fully well-rounded. You don't know the things that make you your strengths, right? So you have to understand your degree and you have to own it as a part of your story and present it and reframe it always as a strength because it's what makes you special and different. Two, your strategic experiences. One of the worst things you don't want to do is wake up at graduation and say, wow, I'm looking for a job and I have an economics major, but I don't have any experiences to back it up. What that might indicate is that you haven't really tried anything to really gain any skills or gain any insights. It says that you may not have as much value. So we need to have our degree. We have to have tried a few things along the way because they'll think the things together, we get to own as our story. And when you have, if you own your story, the person with the best story, that's the one that gets hired. So if you can walk in a room and know where you've in, where you're going and how you're going to do it, that's the person that people want to talk to and that's going to stand out. So we're going to give you some easy, fast, cheap, easy ways maybe to upskill between now and September. And some of these things you all try and some of these might be brand new. The first thing I would really recommend if you're like, hey, my confidence is at a three, one way you can get it to a four is look at credentials or micro internships. And this is in the form of LinkedIn Learning and Forage specifically. So LinkedIn Learning is a professional development item that is a part of LinkedIn. And actually it is a paid service at cost, but you all have it for free for the entirety that you are an IU student with an IU email. So all you do is go to one.iu.edu, search LinkedIn when you're there, and it will pull up LinkedIn learning. It's the only result. And when you click it, it'll help you to connect LinkedIn learning to your LinkedIn account. And what you can do is actually put in any type of a search, depending on your field of interest, look up business, and you can actually get certificate courses that take this one is business analysis foundations takes an hour 25. And at the end of it, you get a certificate and it says, congrats, would you like to add this to your LinkedIn, you click yes, and it's done. This is a certificate you can also put on your resume. So really thinking about like, what are the things when you look at a job description, you're like, wow, I actually have a lot of this experience. Sometimes we see things we're like, but I don't have that. If you're like, I'm applying to a job that needs data analytics, we might look up a certificate option through LinkedIn that has to do with data analytics and how to understand it and get a certificate that then adds that part into your story so that you know that you're prepared for whatever comes your way. So LinkedIn learning, easy way to gain a easy credential. One of the favorite things of avenues I would suggest is something called Forage. So Forage is a company that the IU campus works with where they work with large companies across the world to develop what's called a micro internship so it's internships that can range anywhere from 30 minutes to like 10 to 12 hours and so uh i should say as we're kind of navigating this process megan ray has been so kind to be incorporating links to all of these resources in the chat so feel free to take a peek or you could of course if you don't get anything we can always share it with you after it's not a problem but forage when you if you access the link that's shared in the chat it'll take you to the walter center website you scroll down to the bottom of the page and you're going to see a tab that says micro internships and under it you'll find forage so if you click that it will make this a free service for all iu students that want to access it this way and what you can find is that there are these micro internships which are essentially small internships that are self-guided you do them at your own time from midnight to 4 a.m. in your dorm room or wherever you're at. Take a break and pick back up whenever you're ready. And these companies, because they're seeing tech becoming so integral to how they hire, they're creating pipelines through Forage. Wells Fargo is one of the biggest ones where they say, hey, if you want to get into Wells Fargo, one of the things you might do is go into Forage, do a 30 to 60 minute introductory banking, personal banker, micro internship. It'll give you just a few tasks where they teach you what to do. And they, they hold your hand throughout the process. And then when you complete that process, it says, congrats, here is what you can put on your resume, click copy and paste. So it's a really quick, fast, cheap, free, easy way to put internship type experiences on your resume to really sell your story. So these are all brand new that I saw. So you might start with something very introductory. It takes 30 minutes. If you like that vibe and it works well for you, maybe you should try something more intermediate. It's three to four hours, two to three. You can gain some advertising experience, data visualization. So I would play with this. It's a real game changer for how you tell your story, especially if you don't have any internships on your resume yet. And this is what it looks like with the QR code to that page I was mentioning. So if you use this QR code on the website for the Walter Center, you scroll down all the way to see the word micro internships, can't miss it, and click that and it'll take you to Forage. But if you're wanting advertising experience, maybe you're in the media school, the New York Times has one and you can see like task one, well, they will teach you how to write compelling communications with clients and how to maximize it. So then what you do is you complete research based on how they've taught you. And then you're going to write cold email for advertising sales for this company called City Travel Co. Then when you're done, you submit it and they're able to see it. And then the cool thing about these is we've actually had students who have done micro internships through Forage, where companies will later message them to be like, hey, we saw you did our advertising sales, New York Times thing. Hey, we are actually, you know, taking advertising internships, or we've got an entry-level position. Would you be interested? And it's a new pipeline for how people are finding entry-level jobs. It'd be really cool. Now, as we're figuring out, like, how do we navigate micro-internships and credentials, or maybe you're going to career fair, it's, of course, I think it's helpful if we talk about barriers, right? And funding is always a premier barrier that we sometimes run across. So know that like we as a career service community are absolutely dedicated to wanting to help you remove as many barriers as possible. But everyone's a little bit different. So this is just one example. So one is if you're finding a financial barrier and you have an internship that you land at a career fair, know that these are some examples to pay for. So the Hutton Honors College actually offers internship grants for all students across IU Bloomington. So here is a QR code for it and it'll be in the chat as well where you can get up to $1,500 for fall or spring as a part of your application if selected or $3,000 for the summer to help afford needs specific to your internships, something to consider. And for those of you within the College of Arts and Sciences, we actually give out our own funding. It can be anywhere from like $200 to we've had students who get funding over $3,000. So the Walter Center will add a link here. They've got their own set of deadlines. And so you have your own little bank in order to remove this barrier. Okay, so let's go back. We've talked about credentials and micro internships. So if you feel like you're at a five out of 10 in confidence level, one of the next things we would try is think about your student organizations. Goal, you should be keeping an eye out for active participation opportunities. One of the things that sometimes recruiters tell us is when you come and provide a resume and it says, hey, I was in the business analytics club. I was just a member though. And I was only in it for a month. It doesn't really stand out as much as it could. Whereas if you were like, hey, I was a member of the marketing committee and here are the things that I did. So if you join a student an organization. It's great experience on a resume for whatever you're looking for by industry, but really keep an eye out for like, how can I like offer to be an active part of the success? And even just being a volunteer member can really speak avenues to employers. And then last on this list is really like thinking about how do you use your major courses, your minor courses, and your electives wisely. And that is to say that if you have elements of a job description that you see an internship and you're like, wow, I looked at the responsibilities and there are 10 bullet points. And like seven of them, I've got down, not a problem. You know, it's all marketing related, et cetera. But there's this one aspect I've never done. You can actually join an elective course, a major minor course, and look for courses that might help fit that thing. And those are the things that you put in. Because what you want to remember is that in today's workforce, the modern resume is not about jobs. And I want to like reiterate that so much. Modern resumes are not about jobs. They are about anything that is professional development. And I'll give you an example. I work a lot with like graphic design students. And when they're the graphic design students who graduate from IU, they usually get like a bachelor's studio art or fine arts. And their resumes sometimes are not one job, not one internship. Sometimes it's no volunteer work. It's all coursework. It's all graphic design work, graphic design experience, where they talk about their classes like jobs, because that is professional development experience. LinkedIn's the same. When you go to LinkedIn on your profiles, nowhere does it say, here's a list of my jobs. It says, here's a list of my experiences. So really, understanding how you frame what you've done, where you've been, and why it matters is enough to convince an employer that you have value on their team as well. And I'll give you an example. So for those of you who say you're in merchandising, or maybe you're in the Kelly School of Business, or maybe you're in economics and you're like, I need a thing on my resume and I want to do better. One example is actually a club I found on Be Involved. So So you can just look at beinvolvedonone.iu.edu. And it looks like the Designers and Business Club has a call-out meeting in early September. And what we find is they're trying as a club, my understanding is they actually create custom apparel for student organizations across campus. So it's a mixture of like business and marketing and project management. So let's say you join an organization like this and you're like, hey, I really want to be a part of the marketing team. On your resume, you can have a tailored section that says, here are my business organizations. I'm with the designers of business. It's at IU. It's in Bloomington. I was the marketing lead, or maybe I was the marketing committee member. If you talk about a class, maybe you took K201, you would say the name of the class, not the course code, but you would say the name of a class, Indiana University. I would be a business student or you'd be a marketing student or just student and you put the dates of the semester the times that you were in that piece of that experience with two at minimum bullet points if not maybe three that talks about the hard skills that you did with the hard takeaways so maybe you collaborated that resulted in these campaigns to increase a customer base which is student orgs maybe you worked one-on-one with individual leaders in order to help create designs. So if you can talk about your experiences like jobs, your resume is already on the uplift and on the upskill. So really be looking for ways to own that. The next thing you got to do, once you've really reflected and you've done your research, you're like, I know who I want to talk to. I know that I have value. I've updated my resume. But what do I do between now and then, you've got to rehearse. Really successful students that really maximize and find opportunities at career fairs aren't walking in and just winging it. You don't just simply stumble upon an internship. So one, think about networking. And what I mean by that is it needs to be intentional. Don't reach out to people at companies for the sake of just talking to them. really only talk to people that you aspire to be so if you want to work at Salesforce and you are into tech find the type of you know programming or maybe it's UX design that you were like wow I really want to be someone like them you can network with those people and I can help you in coaching as to how to do that to say hey I see you have a really impactful journey and you also went to IU Bloomington I'd love to hear more about your story would you be willing to share over a 10-minute Zoom call. But if you aren't really sure where to begin, I would really recommend career coaching. Every single one of you has a really stellar career service office, depending on where you're at, that is so specific to the industries and the majors that you own. And if not, my name is Trent Rowlett. I work in College of Arts and Sciences. I can work with you as well, especially if you're wanting to go into business, retail, technology, merchandising, any of those. And sometimes in career coaching offices, It's students who like this, who like show up at my office or sometimes virtually through Zoom. And they're like, hey, can we just talk about what is my major and what are the careers even available for it? We started, you know, this low level together. Sometimes we start with no resume. We just talk about how do you start to develop one that is really impactful? How do I find opportunities? How do I network? How do I ace interviews? How do I negotiate to increase the amount of money I can get or my benefits? it's, how does it work into my life design as a whole? Do I need a portfolio? Do I go to grad school? Um, really if you pick any topic that really interests you, we can help you build your life in whatever way you want. So it's really like a casual conversation where you can just show up as you are. And I'll show you how to find these opportunities here in a moment. Uh, so if you want to book a career coaching appointment, you're going back on handshake rather than events, you're going to click career center, and then there will be a button for appointments, uh, where you'll get access to all of the coaches in your Rolodex of support. And you just click the one that you want and the median that you want. So is it in person? Is it virtual? To see all the opportunities. And so happy to help. Okay, so if the day comes and you're like, all right, the day is here. I'm ready for the career fair. Here's the chronological steps that I would recommend that sets you up for success. One, you need to be the best dressed in the room. And that's not to say like you have to be the number one. But what that means, don't wear sweats to a career fair. And we have to reiterate that because no one is going to want to talk to you and people aren't going to want to give you a paid opportunity if you're coming in in sweatpants. So what that's to say is like dress in a way that makes you feel powerful. And so sometimes for some of us that are maybe cisgender or a male, you might want a suit jacket. Maybe you want to tie, maybe you don't. If you go to Kelley Career Fair, you're probably going to want to tie. If you go to College of Arts and Sciences, you might be fine with a suit jacket, be fine. So think about who are the employers I'm talking to and what is the type of dress that they might expect in the office. Maybe a Google search to see what are the type of people. If you're going to talk to someone in real estate, they're going to be dressed a little bit better. If you're talking to someone who works for a nonprofit or an NGO, they might be a little more casual. So really think about what do you want and how do you be the best dressed in that context to make sure that when they meet you, they're thinking about your qualifications, not about what you're wearing. Two, you got to be resume ready. And that is to say, have several printed out. You're going to want your handshake to be, there's a setting on your handshake profiles to where it is visible to employers. Some of them will say, here, just check in on this QR code and upload your resume. via Handshake. So one thing that we can offer is we'll send you all an email after this with a Handshake checklist to make sure that your profiles are ready to go before you attend the career fair. So be Handshake ready, have maybe five to 10 copies of a resume, and you can always meet with a career coach before to make sure that you feel that you're employer ready. When you get to a career fair, know that you're probably going to just have to do a quick check-in. You'll just enter your email. Sometimes they'll give you a name tag, maybe a lanyard. It's always a little different. But sometimes you may have to wait because some career fairs have lines and they pulse people in slowly to make sure that everyone has an opportunity to talk to who they came to talk to. So sometimes I recommend bringing a friend to hang out in line. It will help calm your nerves. Know that if you have a class that ends at 1 and you have a class that starts at 1.30, you're you may not want to go to the career fair in this 20 25 minute window because you may not even get in to see who you want so really set yourself up to success to say okay i have an hour i have one two three employers that i want to talk to that i've researched i'm ready to go that's going to help you out next thing when you walk into a career fair the first thing you do is take a lap take a full lap don't talk to any employers get a lay of the land and what you can do is naturally start to overhear conversations. And what we find is it really helps people to calm their nerves to know that they're in the right place, that everyone here is doing the same thing. And then always, I would start that when you're going to talk to your employers, gut check yourself. If you had to rank who of those three to four or two or three is the most important to you, and usually our gut tells us like, wow, if I can only talk to one person today, it's SANS Investment Group. What I would recommend is don't talk to them first. Talk to a second or third choice, because what we find is it can really help nerves to help desensitize, you know, how we're feeling, maybe that we're sweating profusely, or we're just not sure what to say, or that we might say something silly, which happens and it's okay. But really is a chance to like work through your spiel and get a chance to shake hands with someone and get an employer under your belt. And then go after that to the person that you really are excited most to see. And then you're going to be a little bit more prepared. Then, hey, while you're there, allow yourself to be present and be kind. It's really easy to feel flustered when there's, it might be a little hot. You've got these beautiful, you know, old IU campus rooms with all of these people in it. it can seem overwhelming at times so allow yourself to like be present in the moment that hey if you leave the room you have nothing lost if you have to leave and come back that is okay if you're really just wanting to get to your employer but the line is taking longer you want to know everyone's there for the same reason you are everyone's a little bit nervous but we all everyone there probably wants something a little different in terms of the opportunity so just be kind. And it's an easy way to like, just let go of the control and it'll be okay. But at some point you got to follow through. You got to talk to the employer and say, I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad to see you had the opportunity to meet you today. Thanks for making the trek to Bloomington. Hi, I'm Trent Rowlett. It's so nice to meet you. Give yourself the chance to be successful. So don't stand in your way. And last but not least, always send a thank you note. As we mentioned earlier, you want to leave your employer with a clear understanding. Hey, before I go, what is the best ways to keep in contact? Is it LinkedIn? Do you have a business card? And if they give you one or give you access, always send a thank you note at some point in that evening, because they're going to honestly not get as many thank you notes as you expect. Some records and some data suggest that like less than 20% of students send a thank you note. So this is an easy way to really reinforce your name coming up again. It's an easy way to make you stand out. It's an easy way also for them to reply and be like, so nice to meet you. Hey, we have a position. I'd love to hear more about your experiences. So this is going to be really key. So to set you all up, we wanted to provide you with a long set of lists of all of the career fairs that are coming. To note, you can go to every single one of these. but some of them probably speak out to you more than others. I'll give you some context. So on September 3rd and 4th, Kelley School of Business is going to be hosting two different accounting career fairs. You do not need to be an accounting major, even though the title says accounting major, to go to it. So if you are an economics major and you're like, I want to go into accounting, I want to be an actuary, actuarial science, and you're like, I want to go to meet these employers, or maybe you see there's an employer there and they're hiring for HR professionals, marketing professionals, you can go in and say hi and introduce yourself. And if anything, sometimes having a different major might be the thing that makes you stand out the most. But there will be two, and they're going to be really focusing on the accounting industries. On September 10th, College and O'Neill are going to be working together for a pre-fair workshop because they're going to host a career fair together on September 11th. So the pre-fair workshop is going to, more details to come, you might see it on Handshake at some point, so keep an eye out, but they'll have a developmental opportunity to make sure students feel extra comfortable for the very next day. My favorite event on here is actually on September 12th. It is going to be a campus-wide career fair simulation. So for students who are like, I've never been to a career fair, you know, I want to go to the one on the 17th and, you know, I'd like to get some experience and try to work out my nerves ahead of time. Or maybe you need, OPT or sponsorship and you're not sure how to talk about it with an employer. Whatever your need or barrier is, the career fair simulation will actually use professionals, career coaches, career service professionals across campus to do a mock career fair so that you can get some practice and get some easy, safe, low stakes feedback. So if you aren't sure which one to go to, I recommend to go to this one for sure. On the 15th and the 16th, College and O'Neill will have a career fair, um, where they're going to do an employer networking night the night before on the 17th, Kelley School of Business and the Eskenazi School will host a retail-oriented career fair on the 18th. Luddy will host theirs on the 10th, the 16th, and October 15th. Kelley will have an in-person career fair for all business industries on the 12th, the 26th and November 14th. They're going to have a virtual career fair for all business industries. Um, Luddy will having one with an emphasis on tech technology industries on the 9th of October. And finally, Dana, a career service professional working with me at the Walter Center, we're going to be hosting a business retail tech connect day on the 4th to help connect students in these industries to alumni and professionals. So we'll be hosting free Starbucks for a certain amount of students to meet a logistics, a supply chain employer called Hometown Logistics in the Morning. So watch Handshake for that. We'll be hosting a biotechnology grad school kind of luncheon. We'll provide lunch here, how people are looking at tech in grad school and local populations here in Bloomington for lunch. And then we actually have an alumni who works at Vera Bradley, who's going to be talking about product design and retail that afternoon. So stay tuned. So, hey, if you have trouble getting started and you're like, you know what? This was a lot, but I don't 100% know what to do next. Scan this QR code. I'm sure Megan Ray has already shared the link in the chat. And this is a business pathway resource where Megan Ray has actually done really remarkable work to provide resources that break it down by time limitations. Hey, if you've only got 20, 30 minutes, here are some easy things to do. Come to the Walter Center. We'll give you a free headshot. It's no charge. Show up when you want Monday through Friday. If you've got, you know, an hour to two, here's what you could try. Three to four, et cetera. This is a really great place to just get started if you don't know what else to do. So some final notes before we turn off the recording. And of course, if you have any questions, we'd be happy and excited to meet and answer. Is one, how do you make an appointment? Coaching, I can tell you, is imagine you guys are all islands, right? You're in the world, figuring out what you want and not sure how to connect. Coaches, in my opinion, are the bridges that can really help to make it easy to navigate where you are and where you want to be. And we're a bridge that just really works for you and you alone. And if you're a person that maybe wants to meet with me specifically, but maybe you aren't, you can't access me on Handshake. Maybe you're not in the College of Arts and Sciences. I sent you all an email about 30 minutes ago to say that we were about to start. So you have my email, but here it is. You can email me directly. And Joe Lovejoy, the assistant dean for the Walter Center, has graciously agreed to let you all have access to our career service office if you'd like. And so before we wrap up, I'll turn it over to Megan Ray with some final words and tell you about a little post evaluation and for feedback. Hi, everyone. Thank you so much, Trenton. I really, really appreciate your expertise and sharing this with folks and going through this. We had a number of folks ask if we'd be able to share the recording for this. And certainly, we will be able to do that. We are also hoping to post it on the Business Pathways website as we go through that process. So we'll make sure to notify you all when that is available if you want to take a look at it. I'm putting now into the chat a link to an evaluation for this program that I would so, so appreciate if you would just take a few moments while we're getting ready to stop the recording and enter for a Q&A period. If you could just take a little bit of time to buzz through these four or five questions to let Trenton and I know what things we can improve, what really worked for you as a part of this experience, so that we can continue to improve this kind of session. so that would be super helpful to us. So I'm going to go ahead and stop the recording now so we can open up for Q&A.

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Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Hello and welcome everyone. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: We're excited to see you. We have a few more minutes until our official start time, so just sit tight and we'll get started in just a few moments. Thanks so much for being here. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Hello, and welcome. Thank you all so much for being here. We just have a few more minutes before our advertised start time of 3 30. So if you all just want to sit tight and hang out for just a little bit longer, then we'll get started. Thanks so much. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Hello. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: My name is Megan Ray, and I'm the Director of Kelly Campus Partnerships, and I'm absolutely delighted that you all have joined us today for this session, and I'm super excited because the business pathways area has partnered with Career Exploration & Student Employment. And my amazing colleague, Lisa Hamilton, is here. Lisa, if you want to say hello. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Yes, thank you so much, Megan. Hi, everyone. My name is Lisa Hamilton. I am the Associate Director for Exploratory Career Coaching with Career Exploration & Student Employment (formerly the Career Development Center, if you've been around for more than a year at IU). Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: But yeah, I'm very happy to be working with Megan on this. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Well, we're super excited and wanted to start today's session with a land acknowledgement so acknowledging and honoring the Miami, Delaware, Pottawatomi and Shawnee people on whose ancestral homelands and resources the school and the campus is built, and encourage you all to learn more about that process. So this land acknowledgement comes from the 1st Nations Cultural Center here on the IU Bloomington campus. And it's a great source Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: for research or just for learning more through their programs. So thank you so much for joining us. We're super excited that you all are here, and let's go ahead and get started. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Okay, yes. This is "Finding Internships and Other High-Impact Experiences." Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: So today, what we're going to do is walk through a bunch of different pieces. So I want to first acknowledge the fact that the idea of searching for internships, no matter whether you're a first-year student or a second-year student, third-year student...wherever you are in the process where you're joining us today, it can be super intimidating. It also feels like every person that you know has an internship, right, or has already had one. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: We're stacking them up, and particularly when it comes to folks who are maybe interested in working in business, it can feel super super intimidating. It's also hard to know where just to start right? So I'm hoping today that you'll be able to take some good notes and then walk away from this with some very actionable steps of things you could be doing. So we're also going to give you a bird's eye view into what kinds of skills and attributes employers are looking for Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: in their candidates. We're going to give you some experiences that you can actually start on as soon as you get off this particular webinar with us. We're going to talk about some of the alternatives to internship searches that may be very valuable in giving you those same kinds of skills that employers are looking for. We're going to cover some search strategies. And then we're going to talk about how the different career services from all the different academic units, and also from career exploration and student employment can help you with these processes. So take it away, Lisa. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Thank you, Megan. Yes, as Megan said, we're going to be covering a lot today. So if you have something to write on and write with that might be helpful to jot down some notes as we go. And please know that we're giving you lots of different examples, not because we expect you to do every single thing, but we're hoping that you'll find some things that resonate with you that might be helpful for you to start right away. But I thought a good place to start might be: Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Why are you even wanting an internship? Besides that reason that Megan already mentioned, it feels like everybody's getting an internship, and that's what we're supposed to be doing. Think about what you're hoping to get out of an internship experience, and why you're hoping to do that right now. And I have some ideas here that may have come up for you when you think about this. So maybe you want to use it to network. And you're hoping to meet people in an industry that you want to break into. Right? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Maybe you want to start building those marketable skills. You came to college with some skills, right? But you want to keep building on that and building the skills you're going to need in the future, in future work. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Maybe to better understand a specific career, field or organization. You think, okay, I think maybe I want to go into this. But what is it really like on a day-to-day basis? Certainly an internship would help you understand that, right? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Or you just want to impress employers. You want to show them that you've done these things, you have. You've had these internships that you've networked and interacted with people in certain fields, doing certain kinds of work. So when we think about impressing employers, we might think: Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: "What are they really looking for? What skills are they looking for? What attributes, what kinds of things are they looking for in future employees and in interns?" So think for just a moment about that. What you think that might be. And I'm going to go ahead and tap onto this next Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: slide here. And what is about to come up are a list of 8 career competencies. So this is like groupings of skills that employers Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: are looking for, that they look for. This comes from the National Association of Colleges and Employers. You don't need to memorize that. But I just want you to understand this is a national organization that does a lot of research and career service offices across the country look to them for their leadership, and helping us to be able to help you with that transition from college to full-time employment. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So when you think about "what is, what is an employer looking for? What do they need? What do they want in a future employee? Or in this case, maybe an intern?" Right. So these are the 8 competencies that they have put together, and you can see that. And I'll go through each one of them here in a moment. But I just want you to understand that, like something like communication. Certainly you already know how to communicate right? You've been doing that almost all of your life. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: But we can still improve on that. So throughout our lives and throughout our careers, we continue to improve. So these are the kinds of things that we don't just do one class or have one experience with and boom! I got it. Got that down, pat don't need to learn anything more about that. So these are a little bit more complex than just one specific skill. So we're looking at critical thinking. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So being able to look and see different points of view, and think in terms of what you know, what might be a good solution to this problem, that kind of thing. Communication: we're talking about written and verbal communication Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Teamwork: being able to work on a team and and take into account lots of different ideas and bringing those together. Technology: When we talk about technology, we're not saying, "Oh, you need to know this one specific Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: program or this one specific Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know, code in this language" or anything like that. We're talking about technology in general, how do we use it to help employers solve problems be be more efficient? So it could be lots of different things, but being able to use technology in those ways. Leadership: Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So being a leader. Some of us, maybe, you know, have a tendency to want to lead all the time. Others are a little bit more quiet in our leadership skills. But being able to look at a team and and make sure everybody's on board and and get the best work out of each other and honor the kinds of life experiences and skills that people are bringing. That's all part of leadership. Professionalism: now, there's a lot of things that go into professionalism. But this might include Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know, just being organized. And you know, being able to. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Oh, I just lost my train of thought. But just being organized. And you know lots of different ways. We can show our professionalism in a work setting Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Now career and self development...oh, go ahead, Megan. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: I think some great examples are email professionalism, text message professionalism. Like, if you're in a situation where you're texting with your supervisor, certainly personal presentation, like how you physically show up to the office, how you mentally show up to the office, if that's the case If you're working remote, what does that look like in terms of professionalism? So those are just a few examples that popped into my head, Lisa. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Those are awesome. Thank you so much, Megan. I just couldn't think of anything. Whoops. Let me go back one. I just accidentally touched my keyboard there. Okay, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: thank you for that. And so then the next one is career and self development. I feel like this one's probably the one that needs the most explanation. We may not think in these terms just on our own, but this is the kind of work that career coaches can help you with, so understanding yourself better, understanding your strengths and your areas that maybe you need to grow in a little bit more, being able to advocate for yourself. To think Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: about: well, I want to grow in this way, or I want to be able to eventually do this kind of work. So I'm going to need to learn these skills. So in advocating for yourself, going to a Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: a supervisor and asking, "Could I be a part of this project? Could I have this special training. Could I be a part of this team?" Different things like that And then equity and inclusion, equity, inclusion means honoring the lived experiences of people who are different from you, and knowing that we all have value. And we're all bringing value to a work environment. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Now, this isn't part of this particular workshop that we're doing today. But I do want to tell you that these Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: 8 competencies are on our website, which we'll look at at the end. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And the website not only has a description of what they are, but also ways you can grow in in different ways when it comes to trying to develop in these areas. And again, this is what employers are looking for. So while we're in classes, and while we're doing different activities, how can we help ourselves grow in these ways? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So we're going to look at some of those ways. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: And I just want to commend all of you for being here, because you're already taking a step in your career and self development by spending this time with us over your break. So. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Yes! Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Oh. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: So if you have met with me at all, or attended a presentation that I've done, you know that I am a huge fan of Forage, which is a virtual work simulation. So at the end of October we had the Halloween holiday, where kids get their costumes on, try them on, and they walk around neighborhoods. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: So Forage is sort of like putting on the costume of a working professional in a particular area. It's an opportunity to try on a different set of tests, a different set of roles, and to learn a little bit about that industry from the inside out. So one of the things I love about Forage Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: is that it doesn't require you to have any kind of experience. So if you're not sure about the particular language a company is using, or a particular concept or idea, the reality is that Forage is going to walk you through exactly what that means. So you're going to get a very close look at what it would be like to work in that industry. Specifically, in many of the simulations, there's also an opportunity Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: to connect with those employers. So you have the opportunity to kind of get into the pipeline with them right from the very beginning. And my favorite thing about Forage is that when you're all done with these simulations, which are like projects that you do, you actually get a tiny blurb that you can cut and paste into your extracurricular activities, on your LinkedIn profile and on your resume. And how cool is it Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: to be able to open up the LinkedIn profile and see: Oh, they've already had exposure to these kinds of companies. So this is a really great program, and I encourage each of you to plan to spend some time, perhaps even over the winter break, when you have a little bit of extra time to get these started. But honestly, you could start one of these this afternoon if you wanted to. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: I wanted to make sure that you knew what kinds of things you could be doing at Forage. And so this is just an example. You can filter from the job simulations page to get into the specific area. So if you were interested in real estate specifically, there are 2 simulations from the CBRE company, and one of them has to do with commercial real estate. One of them has to do with Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: construction management, so you could take a look at those simulations. A lot of them will have a brief video Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: that starts and it introduces the project, and then it walks you through the steps. They also give you an estimated amount of time that it'll take to do one. So if you're interested in exploring consulting, there is a 1 to 2 hour consulting simulation through Forage that you can do. But you don't have to sit down and do it in a 2 hour block. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: You could do it a 30-minute block here, 45-minute here, an hour here until you're finished. So it's something that you can really kind of schedule yourself to do throughout that winter break. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: So just to give you a little bit more detail, this is a group of these simulations that are specific to the filter for sales. So if you were interested or wanted to try on or thought, "I don't know if I would enjoy sales, I want to see what that's like" you can dive into this and can practice these different types. And so, looking at this piece, too, seeing if on-premise sales, or if the Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: client engagement, off-premise sales. You're already learning that there are different languages and different terms for the types of sales that happen within these product companies. So if you're more interested in the advertising component, the New York Times has one as well. And, as you can see from the simulations, they have a timeline that they give to you, for how long they estimate that it will take you to complete this, Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: in addition to the level of difficulty. So typically the introductory ones are the ones that you'll search for right at the beginning, and then you could move into the intermediate options. But I've also had students that jump right into the intermediate, and have a great experience, regardless. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Right. And Megan, I also wanted to mention if there's anyone on on the call today who is an international student with an F1 visa these experiences do not count towards your CPT time, so you can do these experiences and still have your full CPT time. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Thanks, Lisa. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: We have now some micro internships that you might look into and these will count towards CPT time, if you are an F1 visa student. So Parker Dewey and Work & Learn Indiana are too. And just as with Forage, these are free that you can get onto and start an account with. And you can build real world experience. You actually do get paid. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Their projects are often just virtual projects you could work on on your own and take about 5 to 15 hours, and many of them don't require previous experience. So again, all free to Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: our students. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And then we wanted to talk about campus involvement. So Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: we have. And you've probably heard this before. We have over 750 student organizations on campus. So all kinds of things. Some of them are, you know, like the Harry Potter Club, the Sweet Potato Club. I don't know if the Sweet Potato Club is still around, but it might be. But then there are also ones that are connected to future Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: possible careers or career industries, and we would suggest Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: being a part of either or both. So they help you gain leadership experience. And with the ones that are Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: focused on specific industries, you're going to learn more about that industry so often. Then with these student organizations, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: part of their mission is professional development for their members. So they might do things like, you know, take trips and learn about different industries, or develop a portfolio depending on the field. They might have employers come and talk about internship opportunities. They might Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: have alumni come and talk about "Here's what I would recommend. And here's how I use my degree" and different things like that. So it's a chance to network. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Not only that, but you're actually meeting people who are also, you know, in interested in the same things you're interested in, and maybe some of them are upperclassmen. So that means they might graduate before you right? And Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: 80% of the time jobs found in the US are through networking. So it could be that that older student who graduates and starts to work for a company that might, in the end, be a real, great connection for you to have as well. And then I think, Megan, were you going to talk about the Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: SILC? Could you talk about a little bit about the Student Involvement and Leadership Center? Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Absolutely. So, one of the things that I see with students at this point in time in this semester is maybe they've chosen not to get involved in something, or they just haven't found the right fit. Or they applied for a student organization and didn't get in. But there are lots of student organizations at IU that have no application process. You can simply join the group and can become a part of that. One of the places to start is the Student Involvement and Leadership Center. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: And I checked this morning, and it looks like there is a break in the link for their calendar for these one-on-one appointments. But this is something that you could contact the Student Involvement and Leadership Center about. And to say, "I'd like to meet with somebody and talk about how to get involved." There will also be some involvement opportunities at the beginning of next semester. Typically, there will be events that will be held right at the beginning of where Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: classes start. That would give you an opportunity to get involved again. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: and so I strongly encourage you to get connected with those and to check those out. If you need help brainstorming ways to get involved, you're welcome to send me an email. I can get you connected with the Student Involvement and Leadership Center folks, be happy to do that. But do make a plan to connect with at least one student organization. Sometimes I think students aren't sure if they've gone through the recruitment process for Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Greek life, if that counts as a student organization...it certainly does. So that's something that can also provide you with some really great opportunities. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Thanks, Lisa. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Sure I also wanted to mention Be Involved, so that beinvolved.indiana.edu is a database where you can learn about...you can filter by lots of different interest areas and find student organizations that way. So lots of different ways to connect. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So again, you don't have to do all these things. So we just want to give you some different ideas of ways that you could connect and get involved and start to build experience. And one of those might be volunteering Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu:IU Corps, which is an organization on campus. Well, it's an office on campus that connects students and faculty and all the resources for IU, with Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: lots of different opportunities and needs in our community and in surrounding communities, and even throughout the country and world, they do have a form that you can complete. It will help connect you with a volunteer type internship. That might be exactly what you're looking for, so you can check out more on their website at iucorps.indiana.edu. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: and the Kelly Institute for Social Impact is open to all students at IU Bloomington, and has a very specific focus of tying business- related skills to social entrepreneurship. So using your business skills to do good in the world. And through the Civic Leadership Development organization within the Kelly Institute for Social Impact (KISI). They have a series of either ongoing or Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: one time type events that students can use to build those sorts of skills. So that's something worth checking out. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: KISI has an online newsletter. So you can go online and actually sign up to get their weekly newsletter that announces all kinds of different opportunities. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And and just from the point of view of career services, I'll just say that having these volunteer experiences on a resume is a wonderful way to show areas of interest, to connect with future employers and recruiters, to kind of just show your well-roundedness, and you know things that you have a passion for. There's a lot more to it than just, you know, helping somebody out. I mean, there's there's a lot Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: of ways to connect and show and build skills. And you know, just show your passions. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So also it might be that you decide to work part time, or maybe you already work part time. But you haven't thought about, you know, how that is helping you develop. So there is some research that shows that working about 8 to 12 hours per week... Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: those students that do this are more likely to graduate. They earn a higher GPA on average than a student who doesn't work, and they have higher earnings post graduation also, some... often times more closely connecting their graduate, their work after graduation, to to the kind of work that they want to be doing. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: International students can work on campus. That's not a problem. And you will develop those transferable skills. Remember those skills we talked about, these kinds of skills are being developed, whether you're working IU Dining, working for the SRSC working for IU Libraries, lots of different opportunities on campus to develop. And you know critical thinking, communication, teamwork, leadership, these kinds of things. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: And Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: if you've already applied for a job on campus and maybe didn't hear back or didn't get connected, you can meet with a member of the career services team to help you review your materials and to see how you might better position yourself for the second time around. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Right, that's great, and that leads perfectly into this slide. As you may have noticed at the beginning, the office that I work for, the second part of our work besides career exploration is student employment. So we are the student employment office for all students Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: first year through graduate students. So if you need any help or a stronger connection to help you with finding that part time job, we are here for you. We have some staff who speak regularly with on campus employers, and we try to keep those connections, you know, always learning the latest of what's happening and where different organizations on campus are hiring and and also off campus as well. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So that's https://studentemployment.indiana.edu/. I don't know if it's still, I think it is still cdc.indiana.edu. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: But we'll have more information at the end also. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So research might be a way. That you could also gain some experience and develop in those ways that we were talking about earlier, the nice competencies. So Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you can. This is a research university, and there are lots of opportunities even for undergraduate students to do research. I think oftentimes people think of graduate students doing research. But undergraduate students can do research, and it helps you develop in lots of ways. This is another way that you might find that you might be able to work on your career readiness skills or prepare for graduate school, helps you grow Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: personally and professionally academic success helps with critical thinking, reading and writing skills. And it also might help you better understand your areas of interest and what what might be, what might be a good fit for you moving forward. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And you're also developing connections with professors and other personnel on campus Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: the Office of Engaged Learning is a great place to start. If you're thinking about researching. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: they have lots of opportunities there. You can also meet with our staff; we can help with with research opportunities as well, or at least connecting you to the right people to speak with about various research opportunities. But I also say that meeting or talking with professors and area and Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: majors and departments of interest to you is a great place to start with research. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So lots of different things here. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: We still haven't really gotten to actual internships. Right? We're kind of talking about all these little building blocks and things that you could put together for yourself, for maybe next summer. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Certainly we're hoping an internship is what you're able to find and find something that's a great fit for you. But in the meantime you can also think about some of the things that we just discussed. And remember your why, like we talked about at the beginning, why do you want an internship? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So when we think about that, if you, if you said in your mind or wrote down, why you want to network, some ways to network might be informational interviews. So an informational interview is an interview where we kind of "turn the table." So instead of being interviewed for a job, you're interviewing someone about their job to learn more about. What is this really like? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: It's an opportunity to understand better a career field, to understand how you might move into that career field and also your networking. So I've had many students who've done informational interviews. I've helped connect them. Our career coaches can help connect you with people who might be in a field that you're thinking about, that you're interested in. And then those same students who did those informational interviews were called later and Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and asked, "Hey, do you want to apply for this internship? Do you want to do you want to work on this project, or, you know, have a part-time job with us." So you can do informational interviewing to help you network, attending career fairs or career events. This could be networking events, lots of different ways. You could network also. And we kind of talked about a lot of these along the way. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: When we think about building those marketable skills. Maybe it's Forage. Maybe it's LinkedIn Learning. We didn't actually talk about that today. But LinkedIn Learning Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know, this is something that all IU students have an account for. There's lots of great things on there, Parker, Dewey, Indiana Work + Learn, volunteering. All these might help you build those marketable skills. And then, if you're wanting to better understand this for specific career field Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: or an organization. Again, as Megan talked about Forage, this informational interviews could help, job shadowing. So it's all kind of, you know, it all kind of works together. But there might be a few different things that you choose to do and and to impress employers. Any of these experiences. Like Megan said, the fact that you are on this this Zoom call today on your on your Thanksgiving break. You are already doing, starting to do that work. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And so I have this bowl of soup down here at the bottom, and I have "making soup" versus "a can of soup." Okay, what do I mean by that? So I have a colleague that I used to work with? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: He was just incredible, and he always came up with the best analogies, and he talked about how having an internship or getting an internship is like a can of soup. Right? So Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: when we have those internships that we look for, that, we hear about people saying, "Oh, I got this internship with this company," and it's all kind of set in stone. It's a specific internship that's sort of like buying a can of soup. Right? It's all right there all together. They're getting opportunities. They're building skills. They're networking that kind of thing. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: But also, and what might even be better is making your own soup. So kind of putting together different ingredients of what would make an internship. But maybe you're going to do that yourself. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So what might that look like so that might look like, maybe you're going home for the summer, and you know you have, you know, a local company or a local organization, or place, a nonprofit that maybe you could say, "Hey, do you need help with ____? Your Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: marketing? Do you need help with your website? Do you need help with something," and maybe you're going to volunteer a little bit of your time, or if it's a small company, they probably can't build a big internship program, but they might love to take on an intern to help with something, one thing or another. So maybe you're going to spend about. I don't know, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: 10 to 20 hours of your time doing that. Maybe you also need to work someplace because you just need to earn some money, and you're going to work at McDonald's for 20 hours a week. You're going to volunteer somewhere for 10 hours a week and build those skills. And then maybe you could tell yourself, "Okay, you know what I'm going to do Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: 2 or 3 Forage modules this summer. I'm going to do 2 informational interviews, and I'm going to sign up for a LinkedIn learning." So you're kind of just putting it together yourself. You're making your own soup, but it's going to help you in all these ways. Right? You're going to build those marketable skills through your volunteer experience and through your work. You're going to be networking. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: You're going to be learning about different industries, especially if you do some of those informational interviews, the Forage, you know lots of different ways to do that. So we can create our own experience. And it really might check a lot of those boxes of things that we're hoping to get out of that internship. Anything you want to add to that, Megan? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: No, okay, okay. So you might be thinking, yeah, okay, that's great, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Lisa and Megan. But come on, I really want to know, how do I get an internship. Okay? So when we think about internships, maybe for our extroverts, they love this, maybe for introverts, not so much. So really, a lot of it is networking. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So networking means connecting with others with a sense of curiosity, wanting to learn more about a company, about a person's work, about how they got where they are. Could be, you know, again, the informational interviewing. It could be Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: attending some networking events. There's lots of different ways we can connect with others, and again, career coaches can help you more with more steps for that I will also say with Forage. And I I'm not sure, Megan, if you mentioned this or not, but when you get on Forage you can reach out. Once you have that account, and you've started doing some of these modules you can reach out to recruiters and recruiters can reach out to you. So networking can happen through that as well. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So networking. We're going to go into a little bit more detail with each of these. But networking... most of our time is spent networking. We're also going to do some researching, and only about 10% of our time actually applying for things. I think a lot of times people think that's the first thing...they just keep applying and keep applying. But really, these other ways of connecting can be helpful. So why networking? Why this much? Well, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: we find that really about 80% of jobs are in what we call the "hidden job market." Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So these are jobs that may never actually be posted. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: You know, Megan and I work for Indiana University. When Indiana University has an open position they do have Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: to post the position because it's a public university. But organizations, businesses. They don't necessarily have to post things. They might post things if they're looking for someone, but they might also just, you know, know that they know someone who knows someone who does this or who's talked to them, or who's been networking with them. And they those jobs go out to people because they've already had those they already have those connections. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: I have a former student who used to work for me, who was doing a lot of informational interviewing her senior year, and did informational interviewing to learn about human capital consulting, and she actually did so with a company, with some Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: employees of a company that said they weren't hiring, but she just wanted to learn. And and, you know, do those interviews anyway, and learn more. Well, then, it turned out after further on, into that season of hiring, they said, "Well, actually, we do have an opening." And they went to Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: their employees, who were recruiters and said, "Do you already know somebody, because we actually do need someone now." And because my former student, Eva, had been doing these informational interviews already, just for her own benefit, not because she thought it was going to lead to anything. She was the first name that came up. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and she ended up getting the job. So you just never know. I always say that networking is like planting a lot of seeds, and you don't know which one's going to grow right. But you're just kind of putting yourself out there, trying to meet people, trying to learn more about them and not thinking about it in terms of "what can I get out of it." But more like, I'm curious. I want to learn more about this industry. I want to learn more about how people, you know, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: people's career journeys and how they got where they are. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Okay. So Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: if we're talking about networking, how can we expand that network? Well, you could connect with your professors. Professors often know people. They might have Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know, worked with students who go on to graduate and work in different fields, and you never know how that might be helpful. They also know a lot about different industries, informational interviewing that 20 to 30 minute conversation between you and a professional. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: LinkedIn if you have a LinkedIn account. There are ways you can connect with alumni in a career field of interest. And that's something again that a career coach could help you, if you're feeling like you're not...your LinkedIn profile isn't quite where you want it to be. And then the student organizations and professional organizations. So we talked a little more in depth about student organizations already, but professional...or professional associations I mean professional associations, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: pretty much every career field has professional associations. So they're associations where people in that field learn from each other. They have conferences. They talk about industry trends. They talk about lots of different things. And students like, once, you know, a certain field you want to go into. Students can often join those professionals associations at a very discounted cost, and that can be a way to connect with professionals. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So again, networking's the main thing we're doing. But then, also, we want to do some research. We want to find out more about what's even possible and what's out there. And what's the latest happening in different industries? And who's hiring and all those kinds of things. So official company websites are a great way to research and learn more about different organizations, the work they do, their initiatives. Their mission, their values, everything that they're about LinkedIn. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: You can learn about people. You can learn about organizations. You can follow different Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: professional associations through LinkedIn media sources. How is a company being represented in the media? Consulting industry? Annual reports? Lots of different industries put out annual reports of what's happening in their field, and it's good to stay up on those things. And when you do have the opportunity to network to be able to ask those questions that show that you've done some research and then an informational interview for the firsthand perspective. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So where do you actually find those jobs? So now we're down to the applying, which again, it's only about 10% of our time if we're looking. So Handshake, you can filter in Handshake, which is the, if you're not familiar with Handshake, let me back up a little. That's the career service platform where you can sign up to meet with a career coach. You can Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: find out about career events coming up. And you can look for jobs. So this could be internships, part time jobs, full time jobs, and you can filter by location by the type of industry. Different things like that. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Vault is on our website. You can link to it Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: https://indiana.vault.com/. I'm pretty sure that's it. But our Indiana University, Bloomington, does have a Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: They have purchased access to Vault, which is a way to look for jobs, to learn more about different industries. And this access is available to all IU Bloomington students. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: IU Jobs there might be if you're looking for internships. There are internships on campus that you might really fit and align with what you're looking for. LinkedIn, which we talked about before, official company sites, Chamber of Commerce for the city from which you where you plan to live this coming summer, you can learn more about the all the different industries and companies in that city, and often times they will have job postings. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Ascend is where you can look for opportunities in Indiana. If you're planning to stay in the state of Indiana next summer, Indeed, Glassdoor, there's some others like that, Monster, so Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: lots of different ways. You could look like that, and then Interstride. Interstride is a great resource for finding internships, for international students and for students who want Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: opportunities to work or intern in different parts of the world. And again, IU is partnered with Interstride so you can find some really great information there, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: some other opportunities when it comes to Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: if you're interested in interning Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: in another part of the world. Or if you are an international student looking to intern here. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: So this is the slide that Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: represents the office that I'm from. Again, Career Exploration & Student Employment. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Our website is careerexploration.indiana.edu, our email at iucareer@iu.edu and Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: we're on Instagram, also, @iuundergrad. So we are part of the Undergraduate Education office. We also have a really cool podcast called Major Choices that you can stream anywhere you stream podcasts and Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: all kinds of wonderful information there that you could take a look at. I am going to, can I? I'm going to just also put my email in the chat here. I think? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: I'm putting this in the right place that it's going to everyone. Is that right, Megan? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Okay. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Megan, do you want to talk about the the next slide, or do you want me to? I don't... Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Yeah, I'm happy to. So. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Oh, sorry! Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Here we go! Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: So just so that everyone is aware if you have already applied and been accepted, or have been certified into another school like, let's say that you decided the beginning of the sophomore year that you were going to move into the Economics department, or you have moved into Exercise Science, or you're in the School of Ed or in the O'Neill School. All of these different schools across the IU Bloomington campus Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: have career services, centers that are specialized to support you. And so I put some of these on here just as an example. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: And some of them offer programs that are open for all students like this electronic credential for Public Health majors. This is something that is available that all students can sign up for. Take one or two courses that are career preparation courses through the Public Health area. And then you also do a series of co-curricular activities. And when you're done, they actually grant you an Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: electronic credential for having done that work. There are many, many different career preparation classes that are available across the campus, and I would encourage you to look into those. Ask your academic advisor, "is there a career preparation class for my particular major program, or for my school that I can look into?" Because sometimes it's not enough to just know that you need to be doing these things. Sometimes you need to have a very Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: structured environment within which to kind of work through this and to do these types of things. And so if you know that about yourself, a career preparation class is a great way to do that. So I encourage you to check some of these out. Typically, any of the programs that are offered on Handshake when you go into "Career Center Events" and look at the events that are listed. They will be open for any student at IU Bloomington to participate Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: in so lots of really great opportunities there to get a little bit more exposure, or to simply go and walk through a career fair and meet some of the employers that are there. So if you're interested in those opportunities, I just wanted to call your attention to the fact that there are many, many different career centers across the IU Bloomington campus. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Great Lisa! I think you're on mute, and so we can't hear you. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Thank you. I also wanted to put into the chat Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: our informational interview guide that I thought Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: might be helpful if anybody's interested in learning more about that. And again, a career coach could help you connect with someone in industry that you're hoping to interview, or they could help you find someone on LinkedIn who's an IU alum or someone else. If you have a LinkedIn account, if you don't have a LinkedIn account, they could also help you with Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know, developing that LinkedIn account and and feeling like you're ready to share that with others. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: I think this is our last slide, Megan, so I don't know if we have any questions beyond this Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: they're asking. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: I have one question that I've already answered as we went through the presentation. But if you have other questions, and you want to put those into the Q & A. We certainly have some time to answer those, if you would like. If not, you're welcome to go about your day. Have a wonderful restorative break. We'll be offering another session tomorrow at 11:00 am, Eastern time, and I did put the link to sign up for that into the chat Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: as well, so that you could access that if you're free, and if you want to join us. Lisa will be doing a session that talks about how to polish up your LinkedIn profile. So there's a question that just came in from the Q & A, Lisa. And it's "what are the best questions to ask someone during an informational interview?" Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Wonderful. Yes. So the the link that I just put in there for the informational interview. It does have several questions in there, so that has an overview of of what is an informational interview, how to prepare ahead of time, questions to ask. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and then also you know, you always want to write a thank you note afterwards, because you always want to thank people for their time. So that's the part of that guide. But specific questions, I would say again, depends on what your goal is. I guess I always come back to that thinking you know. What what am I hoping to get out of this. If you're wanting to learn more about Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: what is this career field really like? What's it really like to do this kind of work? Some great questions for that, or, you know, tell me about a typical day or a typical week. What do you love about your job? What do you find challenging, because every job has some challenging things, even when we love our jobs. Sometimes there's some challenging parts. So you know, just kind of getting a sense of what is it like? What do you wish you had known before you went into the field? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And then you can also, maybe part of your goal is to like, how do I get there, you know, you can ask someone "could you tell me about your career journey, how you got where you are" so that you have a better sense of like: What did it take? What were the steps they took? And then maybe they took a roundabout way, so you can always ask them, you know. What do you? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: What would you recommend to somebody that wants to go into this field? Maybe there was a more direct way that they didn't take that they would. They would love to share with you. Or maybe you're wondering, how do I get there? And you could ask something like, What does your Hr. Department look for in a in an intern candidate? What are you know? What should I be trying to work on. What do you wish you had done more of when you were in college? Or in in preparation for this Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: work? Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: We've got a couple more questions that have come in. One is about professionalism. So where do we find the correct way and format to professionally email or text people that you want to reach out to. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Okay. So Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: with an email, I would say you'd want to email, probably more than text. But I don't know. If you happen to have their phone number. Maybe this is some a connection to you in another way. I think it's important to introduce yourself. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Explain that you were an IU student, and that you have an interest in a field that's connected to them. This may be somebody who was an IU alum, so you know, saying that you're an IU student, and you saw that they were an IU alum, you know, finding that connection somehow. So whether it's IU, whether it's, you know, you're interested in the field that they're in Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and you know, then you want to ask them. You know I would love to, you know if you happen, if you happen to have 20 to 30 minutes Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: that I could interview you about your work, I would love to learn more. I think it's just really important that you go into those interactions with a sense of curiosity and wanting to learn more about what they do again. You know, it might be really different than what you think. It is. So I think that can be really, really helpful. But you know, I think more than thinking like, what am I going to get out of this or like? How can I get an internship or a job? But just kind of more like Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: what? You know. What can I learn, you know. Would you be willing to share? And if people have time, I mean I will say Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: a lot of times. You know Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: I adjunct for Kelly. I teach Compass I for Kelley, and and we have an assignment of doing an informational interview, and I know I always warn my students a lot of times. People are really busy so definitely make sure you give them plenty of time. To, you know, if you're wanting to meet with them and not like I'm hoping you can meet in 2 days, but more maybe like 2 weeks, or something like that. And give them a range of days and times that you could meet Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and you know. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: take it from there. Also, I would reach out to more than one person, if possible, and and don't take it personally if somebody doesn't get back to you. You never know what's happening for somebody. But you know, you know, on, on LinkedIn, I usually tell students, if you reach out to 10 people, if you hear back from 2, then I think you're doing really great. So Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: if you have a connection, if somebody like sometimes just, you know, letting people, the the older adults in your life, know that you're looking for somebody in a certain field you never know might know somebody who knows somebody. So I think those connections can be really helpful, too. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: I'm also going to drop a link in to a suggested LinkedIn Learning seminar. That's about professional writing and writing emails in particular, that might be really helpful, and you could search through LinkedIn Learning to find some other things that would talk specifically about this that might be really helpful to listen to. So we had a question come in, "how hard is it to find an internship in your first year?" Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: And I know, Lisa, you and I have talked about this. I have very strong feelings about the internship after the first year. I think students should rest, Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: go home, get a part-time job to build those skills right. But then take a breather because you're going to have plenty of time the rest of your life to work. But that said, sometimes there are some folks who are super excited about trying to get that internship in the first year, and how tough is that for folks? Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: I think, getting.. so, a lot of internships that we think of like those really formal internship programs are just going to be for juniors. So those aren't going to be possible to get. But you could get some kind of experience that you could use as an internship. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Just you know you you never know like. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: and and again like kind of putting those different pieces together. Remember that "making your own soup" kind of thing. So I think if you're... if you are on it, and you're willing to, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know, do what it, you know. I shouldn't say do what it takes, but willing to reach out to people, to do Forage, you know, to Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: LinkedIn, do the different things that might help you in different ways. I think you can find some kind of experience that you'll find meaningful. That will give you an opportunity to network, that will give you an opportunity to build skills and to learn more about an industry. So between like informational interviewing and doing Forage, I mean, I think those things alone, Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you're gonna get some really great experiences. But I think people end up getting some kind...I mean, you could, you know, if you happen to be in a town where there's, you know, a local business owner. And you say, "Hey, can I Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: come do this work for you? " And they say "Sure." I mean, you can call it an internship right? I mean it...it...that could be your internship. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: I think, too, it's also helpful to know that when you're in Handshake and you're doing the search in the jobs area for internships, it will typically say, down at the bottom what year they are looking for in terms of sophomore, junior seniors, and sometimes sophomore Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: immersion programs are a possibility to apply for where a company, maybe, has only a week-long experience in the summer, where they will invite candidates in to come and do a job shadow type experience. And so you can look for those kinds of programs as well from some of the larger companies also. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Right. Those are, those are great opportunities to just kind of get a sense of what is a company like. And Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: yeah, definitely. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Absolutely, and Lisa, I have a question. "How could I reach out to a company or individual who does not have an internship available or posted, but they might be interested if I reached out to them?" Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Okay, yeah. So like, you're saying that, like, I was saying, reach out. So I mean, I would Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: let. Yeah, I would, you know again write it like they would call it like a letter of intent or a letter of application as opposed to a cover letter. So this Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: again, a career coach can help you with this also, because it's a little more involved than just on this session right now. But you would want to reach out, let them know. You know the first paragraph of a letter like that is usually kind of Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: buttering them up a little, that if you know that term that so you're kind of, you know, telling them why, you why, you you know what you think of their company, that you that you appreciate their mission, values, that these kinds of things like what you like about their company, and why you think that you might be a good fit. There. That's kind of the first paragraph, and then you're going to go into some of the things that you're Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: you know. It's always more about like what you can do for them, not like what they can do for you. So like, you know that you would love that you, you know, want to gain experience in this or that like, that you have some skills, and you're hoping to apply them in different ways. So if you can think of those kinds of things that you feel like you could do for the company Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: or the organization. You know, kind of letting them know these are the areas that I Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: I'm developing in. And I have some experience and hope to develop and demonstrate more in. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: And then, you know, then the last paragraph is just, I hope, that we can connect, and you know that kind of Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: asking for some time to meet with them and share more about what you would hope to be able to do for them. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: that that's kind of how you would end it. That's kind of. But again, we could talk in more detail about Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: what that might look like. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: You know, writing that out exactly. So. Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: Well, Lisa, I just wanted to thank you so much for your time today, and I really appreciate the energy and the effort. And I love the questions. So thank you all so much. We're going to go ahead and close for today's session. But again, we'll be back at 11 o'clock tomorrow at Bloomington time to share more information with you about updating and polishing up your resume and your LinkedIn profile. So if you Megan Ray (she/her)-Business Pathways meray@iu.edu: want to register for that program. You can do so from the email that you used to register for this program. So thanks so much and enjoy your break. Lisa Hamilton (she/her) lidhamil@iu.edu: Thank you so much. Everyone.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.555 --> 00:00:03.285 Well, hello. 2 00:00:03.815 --> 00:00:07.285 Thank you all so much for choosing to be here today. 3 00:00:07.785 --> 00:00:09.285 Um, if you have the ability, 4 00:00:09.335 --> 00:00:10.765 could you give me the thumbs up? 5 00:00:10.825 --> 00:00:13.405 If you can hear me right now, I wanna make sure 6 00:00:13.435 --> 00:00:15.445 that I'm communicating really clearly 7 00:00:15.445 --> 00:00:17.005 with everyone while we're here today. 8 00:00:17.135 --> 00:00:20.525 Thank you, Felix. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. 9 00:00:20.865 --> 00:00:22.405 So that lets me know 10 00:00:22.405 --> 00:00:24.925 that we're doing the things we're supposed to renik. 11 00:00:24.925 --> 00:00:27.805 Thank you so much. Appreciate that. That's awesome. 12 00:00:28.785 --> 00:00:30.045 My name is Megan Ray 13 00:00:30.265 --> 00:00:33.245 and I am the director of Kelly Campus Partnerships. 14 00:00:33.345 --> 00:00:36.405 And I am super excited about the opportunity we have to, 15 00:00:37.105 --> 00:00:41.165 to give you some incredible information about programs in 16 00:00:41.385 --> 00:00:43.965 the College of Arts and Sciences here at iu. 17 00:00:44.665 --> 00:00:48.285 And as a student who is a proud grad of the College of Arts 18 00:00:48.285 --> 00:00:51.245 and Sciences myself, I love the kinds of opportunities 19 00:00:51.245 --> 00:00:52.725 that are available for students here. 20 00:00:52.945 --> 00:00:56.205 And I'm super excited that my colleague Isaiah Davis, 21 00:00:56.495 --> 00:00:58.645 who's the associate director of recruiting, engagement 22 00:00:58.645 --> 00:01:00.045 and College access, will be able 23 00:01:00.045 --> 00:01:01.325 to talk with you all a little bit. 24 00:01:02.275 --> 00:01:05.005 This is a tough time to be thinking about pivoting 25 00:01:05.005 --> 00:01:08.245 because we all know that students start classes on Monday, 26 00:01:08.385 --> 00:01:09.885 and it's, you're trying to figure out, okay, 27 00:01:09.885 --> 00:01:11.805 what makes sense for me and what doesn't make sense? 28 00:01:12.265 --> 00:01:14.205 And so what my goal is today 29 00:01:14.705 --> 00:01:17.005 and welcoming these amazing professionals 30 00:01:17.185 --> 00:01:20.125 and current students into the conversation is just 31 00:01:20.125 --> 00:01:22.645 to give you some ideas, some ideas 32 00:01:22.785 --> 00:01:26.005 and some inspiration about things that you might be able 33 00:01:26.005 --> 00:01:28.685 to do and other degree programs at IU Bloomington 34 00:01:28.785 --> 00:01:31.205 to still get you to exactly the same career 35 00:01:31.275 --> 00:01:33.445 that you wanted right from the very beginning. 36 00:01:33.755 --> 00:01:36.165 Because one of the things that we know is 37 00:01:36.165 --> 00:01:39.405 that the skill development, the experiences, all 38 00:01:39.405 --> 00:01:40.725 of those things can combine 39 00:01:40.745 --> 00:01:43.245 and that there's no magic measure that leads 40 00:01:43.265 --> 00:01:45.245 to precisely a specific career. 41 00:01:45.635 --> 00:01:46.885 Like this is gonna be something 42 00:01:46.885 --> 00:01:48.805 that I think you're gonna find throughout your life, 43 00:01:48.835 --> 00:01:52.365 that you may believe that there is a predetermined path 44 00:01:52.365 --> 00:01:54.285 that you have to take in order to do something, 45 00:01:54.345 --> 00:01:56.005 but that's just not the case. 46 00:01:56.425 --> 00:01:58.725 So we're gonna talk a little bit more about that 47 00:01:59.145 --> 00:02:00.285 as we go through this process. 48 00:02:00.665 --> 00:02:02.885 I'd like to have, uh, Isaiah 49 00:02:03.305 --> 00:02:06.165 and, uh, the rest of my colleagues introduce themselves. 50 00:02:06.255 --> 00:02:08.125 We'll go Isaiah and then Ashley, 51 00:02:08.225 --> 00:02:11.685 and then Alexander, um, will and then Chris. 52 00:02:11.865 --> 00:02:15.125 And then I'll invite them while Isaiah then takes it away 53 00:02:15.125 --> 00:02:18.485 and is presenting to close their screens if they'd like 54 00:02:18.525 --> 00:02:19.565 a little downtime. 55 00:02:20.225 --> 00:02:23.205 We are gonna take questions in the q and a today, 56 00:02:23.745 --> 00:02:25.565 and we will also have the opportunity 57 00:02:25.655 --> 00:02:29.365 after Isaiah finishes a very brief set of comments for you 58 00:02:29.605 --> 00:02:32.325 to pop into breakout rooms to speak 59 00:02:32.325 --> 00:02:34.685 with our professional academic advising colleagues 60 00:02:34.685 --> 00:02:35.765 that we have here today. 61 00:02:36.145 --> 00:02:38.525 And in order to access them, you just simply need 62 00:02:38.545 --> 00:02:40.005 to post in the q 63 00:02:40.005 --> 00:02:42.365 and a that you'd like to talk with an academic advisor, 64 00:02:42.625 --> 00:02:44.005 and we'll continue on with the panel. 65 00:02:44.185 --> 00:02:46.245 So thank you so much for being here. 66 00:02:46.345 --> 00:02:49.325 And Isaiah, I'm gonna have you take it away. Okay. 67 00:02:50.015 --> 00:02:52.645 Hello everyone. Uh, once again, my name's Isaiah Davis. 68 00:02:52.825 --> 00:02:55.245 I'm the associate Director for recruitment, uh, 69 00:02:55.605 --> 00:02:57.165 focusing on college access and engagement. 70 00:02:57.605 --> 00:03:00.245 A lot in my role is I help support our students, um, 71 00:03:00.305 --> 00:03:03.965 coming in, uh, perspective transfer students, um, students 72 00:03:04.025 --> 00:03:05.685 who need just additional assistance 73 00:03:05.785 --> 00:03:09.005 and, um, navigating what, um, is iu. 74 00:03:09.145 --> 00:03:12.645 And so I'll pass it on to, uh, will to introduce himself. 75 00:03:15.255 --> 00:03:18.715 It is so nice to meet everyone today. I am Will Smith. 76 00:03:18.815 --> 00:03:21.395 I'm the Senior Associate Director of advising in the College 77 00:03:21.395 --> 00:03:22.675 of Arts and Sciences. 78 00:03:23.495 --> 00:03:28.235 And, um, I've been in advising at IU Bloomington since 2010, 79 00:03:28.655 --> 00:03:30.195 and I've worked with a number of departments 80 00:03:30.195 --> 00:03:32.235 and programs over my time, as well 81 00:03:32.235 --> 00:03:33.715 as sort of the college as a whole. 82 00:03:34.135 --> 00:03:36.075 And I'm excited to be here to help you today. 83 00:03:39.125 --> 00:03:40.385 And then maybe Ashley. 84 00:03:43.045 --> 00:03:44.265 Hey everyone, I'm Ashley. 85 00:03:44.565 --> 00:03:46.905 I'm a senior and I'm studying organizational 86 00:03:47.045 --> 00:03:50.305 and business psychology with a minor in HR management 87 00:03:50.305 --> 00:03:51.425 through the School of O'Neill. 88 00:03:51.765 --> 00:03:55.145 And I'm excited to get to talk to you guys today. Uh, Alex? 89 00:03:57.055 --> 00:03:58.745 Yeah, so I'm Alexander. 90 00:03:59.125 --> 00:04:01.145 Um, I'm a sophomore studying biotech 91 00:04:02.045 --> 00:04:04.025 and I have a minor in healthcare management 92 00:04:04.025 --> 00:04:05.825 and policy through SPE a also. 93 00:04:06.965 --> 00:04:10.945 Um, and yeah, great to meet all of you, Chris, 94 00:04:11.005 --> 00:04:12.265 if you wanna finish it off. 95 00:04:14.175 --> 00:04:16.085 Thank you. Thank you. Welcome everybody. 96 00:04:16.105 --> 00:04:18.805 My name's Chris Klein. I am an academic advisor in the 97 00:04:18.805 --> 00:04:19.925 College of Arts and Sciences. 98 00:04:20.245 --> 00:04:23.805 I advise specifically for economics, mathematics, 99 00:04:24.285 --> 00:04:26.885 statistics, animal behavior, astronomy and physics. 100 00:04:27.665 --> 00:04:29.045 Um, but happy 101 00:04:29.045 --> 00:04:31.205 to chat about really whatever you wanna chat about. 102 00:04:31.205 --> 00:04:32.845 Other majors, just other questions. 103 00:04:33.105 --> 00:04:35.125 Uh, advisors are fountains of knowledge. 104 00:04:35.125 --> 00:04:37.005 We're here to help you guys, so happy to be here. 105 00:04:38.295 --> 00:04:40.065 Okay, thank you all. 106 00:04:40.125 --> 00:04:41.625 And let's get started 107 00:04:41.685 --> 00:04:44.225 and let's talk about, uh, what the College of Arts 108 00:04:44.225 --> 00:04:45.425 and Sciences actually is. 109 00:04:46.005 --> 00:04:48.025 So the college is the Otis 110 00:04:48.205 --> 00:04:50.385 and largest academic unit here on campus. 111 00:04:50.605 --> 00:04:52.465 Uh, we offer more than 80 majors 112 00:04:52.465 --> 00:04:54.225 and over 80 languages, as well 113 00:04:54.225 --> 00:04:57.105 as over more than 140 minors in certificates. 114 00:04:57.565 --> 00:04:59.105 Um, I believe that size matters 115 00:04:59.105 --> 00:05:01.745 because it creates the, uh, it creates flexibility. 116 00:05:02.215 --> 00:05:03.665 That flexibility is important, 117 00:05:03.665 --> 00:05:04.905 especially in moments like this, 118 00:05:04.905 --> 00:05:08.385 because it allows you to build intentional pathways into 119 00:05:08.405 --> 00:05:10.665 so many different careers, including business. 120 00:05:11.285 --> 00:05:13.105 Um, rather than narrowing your options, 121 00:05:13.165 --> 00:05:15.745 the college is designed to help you adapt and pivot 122 00:05:16.405 --> 00:05:17.665 and align your career 123 00:05:17.725 --> 00:05:19.865 and your education with where you want to go. 124 00:05:24.145 --> 00:05:27.505 I think one of the biggest myths, um, students here is 125 00:05:27.505 --> 00:05:29.745 that employers only care about what your major is. 126 00:05:30.325 --> 00:05:33.505 In reality, when employers talk about who they wanna hire, 127 00:05:33.535 --> 00:05:34.585 they consistently point 128 00:05:34.585 --> 00:05:37.585 to skills they want embedded in their candidates skills, 129 00:05:37.585 --> 00:05:40.785 like critical thinking, problem solving, adaptability, 130 00:05:41.545 --> 00:05:43.985 communication, teamwork, relationship building. 131 00:05:44.435 --> 00:05:45.785 These are not extra skills. 132 00:05:45.795 --> 00:05:48.425 These are the skills that help people succeed in roles 133 00:05:48.535 --> 00:05:50.825 long-term and move forward within their careers. 134 00:05:51.315 --> 00:05:53.985 We've seen, um, in publications like the Harvard Business 135 00:05:53.985 --> 00:05:57.225 Review, they've highlighted that employers are increasingly, 136 00:05:57.705 --> 00:06:01.365 um, placing value in liberal arts graduates, specifically 137 00:06:01.365 --> 00:06:02.885 because their education, uh, 138 00:06:03.165 --> 00:06:04.965 emphasizes these transferable skills. 139 00:06:05.665 --> 00:06:07.365 Um, and what's important to note is 140 00:06:07.365 --> 00:06:08.845 that these skills are embedded throughout 141 00:06:08.985 --> 00:06:10.125 all college coursework. 142 00:06:10.145 --> 00:06:11.725 So no matter what major you choose, 143 00:06:11.825 --> 00:06:13.765 you are developing all these competencies 144 00:06:13.765 --> 00:06:15.205 that are employers are looking for. 145 00:06:15.745 --> 00:06:17.725 And that's why college students are continuing 146 00:06:17.725 --> 00:06:19.845 to land strong roles year after year. 147 00:06:23.355 --> 00:06:26.215 So while we offer a wide range of majors, 148 00:06:26.335 --> 00:06:27.695 I wanna focus today on a few 149 00:06:27.695 --> 00:06:30.015 that commonly lead towards business careers. 150 00:06:30.555 --> 00:06:32.695 Um, to make this easier to visualize, I've grouped some 151 00:06:32.695 --> 00:06:35.095 of these majors into a few broad pathways. 152 00:06:35.475 --> 00:06:39.455 So, um, that being people and organization focused, tech 153 00:06:39.455 --> 00:06:43.855 and innovation, uh, creative and market facing, analytical 154 00:06:44.035 --> 00:06:45.255 and finance oriented. 155 00:06:45.715 --> 00:06:47.855 And then mix and match pathways. 156 00:06:48.315 --> 00:06:50.415 So these aren't gonna be boxes you're locked into. 157 00:06:50.415 --> 00:06:52.975 They're more of lenses that will help you see 158 00:06:52.975 --> 00:06:55.655 how your interests and your strengths might, uh, 159 00:06:55.655 --> 00:06:57.135 connect into careers. 160 00:06:57.715 --> 00:07:00.495 Um, as we walk through these, I encourage you to listen for 161 00:07:00.565 --> 00:07:02.255 what, where you see yourself, not 162 00:07:02.255 --> 00:07:04.935 where you think you should fit, but where your skills 163 00:07:05.035 --> 00:07:07.055 and your interests naturally align. 164 00:07:08.945 --> 00:07:10.525 So, starting off with analytical 165 00:07:10.525 --> 00:07:12.805 and finance oriented, um, for students 166 00:07:12.805 --> 00:07:15.405 who were originally drawn to finance consulting 167 00:07:15.405 --> 00:07:16.725 or analytics, this pathway 168 00:07:17.325 --> 00:07:18.645 probably seems the most familiar to you. 169 00:07:19.225 --> 00:07:22.845 Uh, majors like economics, statistics, mathematics, uh, 170 00:07:22.845 --> 00:07:25.525 quantitative methods lead directly into roles such 171 00:07:25.525 --> 00:07:29.245 as fin financial analysts, risk management and consulting. 172 00:07:29.745 --> 00:07:32.805 Um, Cameron, who's a recent graduate, is a great example, 173 00:07:32.985 --> 00:07:34.965 who graduated with a degree in economics 174 00:07:34.965 --> 00:07:37.525 and now works as a business analyst at McKinsey. 175 00:07:38.185 --> 00:07:39.365 Uh, his path shows 176 00:07:39.365 --> 00:07:41.525 that strong analytical majors are not just 177 00:07:41.565 --> 00:07:42.605 a step away from business. 178 00:07:42.635 --> 00:07:44.605 They're often a direct route to it. 179 00:07:50.335 --> 00:07:51.355 Um, the people 180 00:07:51.495 --> 00:07:53.355 and organization focused Pathways is 181 00:07:53.355 --> 00:07:56.355 for students interested in organizations or, 182 00:07:56.355 --> 00:07:58.355 and how organizations actually work. 183 00:07:58.455 --> 00:08:01.995 So how people, how teams and strategy all come together. 184 00:08:02.535 --> 00:08:05.355 So having majors like psychology and management 185 00:08:05.355 --> 00:08:08.675 and human organization, they frequently lead into roles such 186 00:08:08.675 --> 00:08:11.195 as, uh, human resources, sales and strategies, 187 00:08:11.255 --> 00:08:15.035 and human capital, uh, consulting, uh, Hendrick, another one 188 00:08:15.035 --> 00:08:16.915 of our recent graduates, majored in psychology 189 00:08:16.935 --> 00:08:18.275 and now works at Medline. 190 00:08:18.615 --> 00:08:21.315 And his role shows how understanding people data 191 00:08:21.575 --> 00:08:24.875 and collaboration translates into real business impacts. 192 00:08:30.065 --> 00:08:32.765 So with tech and innovation, this is one 193 00:08:32.765 --> 00:08:35.245 of like fastest growing areas within business. 194 00:08:35.785 --> 00:08:38.045 So having a major like cybersecurity 195 00:08:38.065 --> 00:08:41.205 and global policy, interactive and digital media 196 00:08:41.465 --> 00:08:43.605 and biotechnology can help prepare students 197 00:08:43.625 --> 00:08:46.565 for roles in consulting, compliance, uh, 198 00:08:46.565 --> 00:08:48.605 product operations, as well as analytics. 199 00:08:48.865 --> 00:08:53.325 So, um, as, as ira, uh, works as a consulting analyst 200 00:08:53.545 --> 00:08:55.845 and as a great example of how techno, uh, 201 00:08:55.845 --> 00:08:57.165 technical knowledge combined 202 00:08:57.165 --> 00:09:00.165 with business thinking creates value for organizations. 203 00:09:04.805 --> 00:09:08.175 Also, business is about branding, it's about storytelling, 204 00:09:08.245 --> 00:09:09.815 it's about understanding different markets. 205 00:09:10.275 --> 00:09:13.535 So having majors like media have media, advertising, 206 00:09:13.725 --> 00:09:17.575 merchandising, fashion design, these lead into roles 207 00:09:17.715 --> 00:09:20.215 and brand strategy and product marketing 208 00:09:20.315 --> 00:09:21.855 and analyzing merchandise. 209 00:09:22.355 --> 00:09:26.535 So Rory, who works as in social media, um, shows 210 00:09:26.635 --> 00:09:30.575 how you can creatively, um, build business strategy 211 00:09:30.575 --> 00:09:32.615 and how they go hand in hand with each other. 212 00:09:33.795 --> 00:09:35.535 And then last 213 00:09:35.555 --> 00:09:39.495 but not least, um, there might not just be a single major 214 00:09:39.495 --> 00:09:41.975 that feels right for you, but maybe a combination. 215 00:09:42.515 --> 00:09:45.175 So within the college, students can pursue, uh, 216 00:09:45.495 --> 00:09:47.055 multiple majors and minors at the same time, 217 00:09:47.305 --> 00:09:49.055 which allows you to be very intentional 218 00:09:49.055 --> 00:09:50.135 about shaping your path. 219 00:09:50.625 --> 00:09:52.855 While I never recommend overloading yourself, 220 00:09:53.095 --> 00:09:54.855 I do believe it is important 221 00:09:54.915 --> 00:09:56.815 and powerful to think about your end goal 222 00:09:56.875 --> 00:09:59.455 and what academic pieces might help get you there. 223 00:10:00.195 --> 00:10:01.975 So the examples on this slide show 224 00:10:01.995 --> 00:10:03.615 how students blend disciplines 225 00:10:03.715 --> 00:10:05.775 to hone in on specific career paths. 226 00:10:06.235 --> 00:10:08.295 And regardless of what combination you choose, 227 00:10:08.395 --> 00:10:09.735 you'll gain the skills needed 228 00:10:09.735 --> 00:10:12.975 to stay competitive in adaptable in an ever-changing world. 229 00:10:13.825 --> 00:10:15.605 So let's take a minute or two to highlight a couple 230 00:10:15.605 --> 00:10:17.245 of these examples so you can hear 231 00:10:17.265 --> 00:10:19.125 how different interests come together into real 232 00:10:19.125 --> 00:10:21.025 careers. Uh, 233 00:10:21.085 --> 00:10:22.625 Can you, can you go back to the first slide? 234 00:10:23.765 --> 00:10:25.385 The f the former one 235 00:10:26.145 --> 00:10:27.145 F first one? 236 00:10:28.615 --> 00:10:31.475 Uh, no, no, not, not the career wise. Can you go? 237 00:10:31.575 --> 00:10:32.595 No, not the first one. 238 00:10:32.795 --> 00:10:34.315 I think the careers, the courses, 239 00:10:34.365 --> 00:10:38.075 which you said analytics finance. Okay. This is 240 00:10:38.075 --> 00:10:39.155 The one, oh, sorry, analytics 241 00:10:39.155 --> 00:10:40.155 Finance. No, no, I'm just, I 242 00:10:40.155 --> 00:10:42.635 wanted to see that. Analytics, finance. 243 00:10:43.025 --> 00:10:44.025 Okay. 244 00:10:44.825 --> 00:10:48.275 Yeah. Um, 245 00:10:49.845 --> 00:10:51.305 so what the mixed math pathways. 246 00:10:51.445 --> 00:10:54.905 So economics and psychology is a powerful combination 247 00:10:54.905 --> 00:10:57.025 because it blends data and human behavior. 248 00:10:57.365 --> 00:10:59.985 So students with this pairing often move into behavior 249 00:10:59.985 --> 00:11:02.665 finance, um, human resources, analytics 250 00:11:02.725 --> 00:11:05.465 and consulting roles where you understanding why people are 251 00:11:05.465 --> 00:11:07.665 making decisions as just as important 252 00:11:07.685 --> 00:11:08.865 as the numbers behind them. 253 00:11:10.005 --> 00:11:13.545 Um, may be looking at international studies paired 254 00:11:13.545 --> 00:11:15.665 with statistics, which is a great option 255 00:11:15.665 --> 00:11:17.585 for students interested in global business. 256 00:11:18.015 --> 00:11:19.825 This pairing helps prepare students 257 00:11:20.005 --> 00:11:23.305 to analyze international markets, understand economic 258 00:11:23.605 --> 00:11:26.545 and political context, and use data to guide decisions 259 00:11:26.545 --> 00:11:28.665 for companies operating across many countries. 260 00:11:30.205 --> 00:11:32.705 Um, pairing cognitive science 261 00:11:32.725 --> 00:11:35.825 and media is a strong pathway for students interested in 262 00:11:35.885 --> 00:11:38.665 how people interact with products and technology. 263 00:11:39.205 --> 00:11:42.105 So if you're into user experience research 264 00:11:42.445 --> 00:11:43.745 or product strategy roles 265 00:11:43.745 --> 00:11:46.265 where you're studying user behavior, testing ideas 266 00:11:46.285 --> 00:11:48.945 and helping shape how products are designed and improved. 267 00:11:49.645 --> 00:11:52.305 And then another one is journalism. 268 00:11:52.605 --> 00:11:54.925 Paired with economics, which is ideal for students 269 00:11:54.925 --> 00:11:56.205 who wanna work with business 270 00:11:56.225 --> 00:11:59.165 but perform communications over spreadsheets. 271 00:11:59.625 --> 00:12:02.205 Um, this pathway is gonna help lead you into business 272 00:12:02.205 --> 00:12:05.205 reporting, corporate communication and investor relating 273 00:12:05.505 --> 00:12:08.405 or relations, essentially helping organizations explain 274 00:12:08.415 --> 00:12:11.565 their complex ideas to very different audiences. 275 00:12:12.635 --> 00:12:13.915 I think the takeaway that I'm trying 276 00:12:13.915 --> 00:12:17.075 to say here is there isn't one right combination. 277 00:12:17.665 --> 00:12:19.595 What matters is how your interest skills 278 00:12:19.655 --> 00:12:20.875 and your goals come together, 279 00:12:20.975 --> 00:12:23.355 and the college gives you that flexibility to build 280 00:12:23.385 --> 00:12:24.395 that intentionally. 281 00:12:25.495 --> 00:12:27.875 And I wanna be clear, these pathways are not theoretical. 282 00:12:27.985 --> 00:12:29.675 They play out in very real ways. 283 00:12:30.415 --> 00:12:33.075 So Ellen is a great example of this on paper, 284 00:12:33.105 --> 00:12:36.075 nothing about her academic background screams marketing. 285 00:12:36.335 --> 00:12:38.595 She studied history and international studies, 286 00:12:38.945 --> 00:12:41.355 however, through her cur, through her coursework, 287 00:12:41.465 --> 00:12:42.795 project experiences, 288 00:12:43.615 --> 00:12:45.475 and she developed these transferable skills. 289 00:12:45.495 --> 00:12:47.235 So critical thinking, communication, 290 00:12:47.465 --> 00:12:49.195 data analysis, collaboration. 291 00:12:49.455 --> 00:12:52.235 And that positioned her for a marketing role at Visa. 292 00:12:52.975 --> 00:12:55.995 Her path not only shows that it's not about the label 293 00:12:55.995 --> 00:12:58.075 of your major, it's about the skills you build 294 00:12:58.095 --> 00:12:59.235 and how you apply them. 295 00:13:03.645 --> 00:13:05.425 And it's not just our recent graduates. 296 00:13:05.525 --> 00:13:07.745 We have a very robust alumni network. 297 00:13:08.165 --> 00:13:11.945 So here are a couple of our alumnis, uh, Sabrina, Catherine, 298 00:13:11.965 --> 00:13:14.665 and Kirk, who all studied different majors within the 299 00:13:14.665 --> 00:13:18.305 college and now work as a senior marketing, tech strategy 300 00:13:18.445 --> 00:13:20.705 and analytical roles at major companies. 301 00:13:21.085 --> 00:13:22.465 Um, I'm not gonna walk through each 302 00:13:22.465 --> 00:13:23.865 of their stories in great detail, 303 00:13:23.885 --> 00:13:25.505 but I want you to notice a pattern here. 304 00:13:25.595 --> 00:13:29.745 There are different majors, they all on different paths, 305 00:13:29.965 --> 00:13:32.665 but they all led to having strong business roles. 306 00:13:34.105 --> 00:13:35.245 And I think what led them 307 00:13:35.245 --> 00:13:37.405 to their success wasn't having a single major. 308 00:13:37.825 --> 00:13:40.565 It was making intentional choices, um, 309 00:13:40.775 --> 00:13:42.445 using the support around them. 310 00:13:46.185 --> 00:13:48.685 Now nothing of this is gonna happen on your own. 311 00:13:48.945 --> 00:13:51.645 One of the primary ways that we support students is 312 00:13:51.645 --> 00:13:53.725 through the Walter Career Center, Walter Center 313 00:13:53.725 --> 00:13:55.685 for Career Achievement, which serves, uh, serves 314 00:13:55.705 --> 00:13:57.125 as the college's career center. 315 00:13:57.625 --> 00:14:01.205 So from resume support to networking to internships, 316 00:14:01.225 --> 00:14:03.725 to experiential learning, this is where, uh, many 317 00:14:03.725 --> 00:14:04.965 of our students are going to turn their 318 00:14:05.365 --> 00:14:06.525 interests into action. 319 00:14:08.365 --> 00:14:10.905 And another way the college supports that is 320 00:14:10.905 --> 00:14:12.425 through the curriculum itself. 321 00:14:12.565 --> 00:14:16.825 So two courses I wanna highlight are Q2 95 and 2 99, 322 00:14:16.825 --> 00:14:19.425 because they're designed for moments, especially like this. 323 00:14:20.005 --> 00:14:21.825 Um, Q2 95 is going 324 00:14:21.825 --> 00:14:24.225 to help you step back and explore options. 325 00:14:24.335 --> 00:14:26.865 It's a hand on course where you're testing ideas, 326 00:14:26.965 --> 00:14:28.225 you're talking to professionals 327 00:14:28.285 --> 00:14:30.465 and you're making thoughtful decisions. 328 00:14:31.005 --> 00:14:33.065 And 2 99 builds upon that 329 00:14:33.165 --> 00:14:35.145 by helping you tell your professional story. 330 00:14:35.565 --> 00:14:37.025 So like it helps you clearly 331 00:14:37.205 --> 00:14:38.785 and confidently, um, 332 00:14:39.215 --> 00:14:40.745 tell like you're focusing on your resume, 333 00:14:40.935 --> 00:14:43.225 your interviewing skills, networking, 334 00:14:43.225 --> 00:14:44.345 and your understanding what 335 00:14:44.705 --> 00:14:45.865 employers are actually looking for. 336 00:14:46.485 --> 00:14:47.625 So one thing I like to think 337 00:14:47.645 --> 00:14:49.305 of these come off as a sequence. 338 00:14:49.565 --> 00:14:52.525 So Q2 95 is gonna help you find your direction, 339 00:14:52.865 --> 00:14:56.605 and Q2 99 is going to help you communicate that direction. 340 00:15:00.485 --> 00:15:02.345 Now we also believe in transparency. 341 00:15:02.805 --> 00:15:04.305 So on the left you're gonna see a couple 342 00:15:04.305 --> 00:15:07.105 of our top first destinations for recent grads. 343 00:15:07.525 --> 00:15:10.665 Um, on the right, if, if you scan this QR code to go to 344 00:15:10.665 --> 00:15:11.705 that link, it's gonna take you 345 00:15:12.025 --> 00:15:13.945 to our career outcomes dashboard. 346 00:15:14.405 --> 00:15:17.225 So you can search any major that we have within the college 347 00:15:17.285 --> 00:15:20.025 and you can see where in the world our graduates are 348 00:15:20.295 --> 00:15:23.745 working, um, like where, what roles they've landed, 349 00:15:24.085 --> 00:15:25.425 the average compensation 350 00:15:25.485 --> 00:15:27.665 and their overall satisfaction six months 351 00:15:27.915 --> 00:15:30.105 after they have graduated from their programs. 352 00:15:30.565 --> 00:15:33.265 Um, I truly believe it's a powerful tool in making an 353 00:15:33.545 --> 00:15:36.225 informed decision 'cause you're able to see these paths 354 00:15:36.225 --> 00:15:38.305 that are laid out from real people 355 00:15:38.565 --> 00:15:40.025 and that have been successful. 356 00:15:42.695 --> 00:15:45.395 So, um, I'm gonna turn it back over to Megan 357 00:15:45.415 --> 00:15:48.635 to talk more about the Kelly side of how to still keep that, 358 00:15:48.735 --> 00:15:51.635 um, included into your academic journey. 359 00:15:51.735 --> 00:15:53.035 Um, but thank you for having me 360 00:15:53.055 --> 00:15:54.555 and I'll turn it over to Megan. 361 00:15:54.965 --> 00:15:56.235 Great, thanks so much Isaiah. 362 00:15:56.415 --> 00:16:00.515 So, um, students who are not pursuing the business major 363 00:16:01.035 --> 00:16:03.875 actually have a unique opportunity to complete, uh, 364 00:16:04.135 --> 00:16:07.275 minors in the programs specifically. 365 00:16:07.575 --> 00:16:09.635 And so there are minors 366 00:16:09.695 --> 00:16:12.435 and certificates that are available within this. 367 00:16:12.615 --> 00:16:14.275 So there is a business minor, 368 00:16:14.555 --> 00:16:16.835 a marketing minor financial literacy, minor 369 00:16:17.555 --> 00:16:19.475 entrepreneurship, and small business management minor. 370 00:16:19.815 --> 00:16:21.115 And the great news is, is 371 00:16:21.115 --> 00:16:23.395 that if you've already taken business K 2 0 1 372 00:16:23.535 --> 00:16:25.235 and received a c or better in the course, 373 00:16:25.545 --> 00:16:28.835 it's gonna count towards one of these four minor programs. 374 00:16:29.285 --> 00:16:32.555 There are also a series of, uh, certificate programs 375 00:16:33.025 --> 00:16:35.515 that include accounting, entrepreneurship, 376 00:16:35.785 --> 00:16:37.435 real estate and supply chain. 377 00:16:37.815 --> 00:16:40.035 And the difference, a lot of times students will say, well, 378 00:16:40.035 --> 00:16:41.955 what's the difference between a minor and a certificate? 379 00:16:42.475 --> 00:16:45.235 A minor is something that you would share directly 380 00:16:45.235 --> 00:16:46.515 with your academic advisor. 381 00:16:46.625 --> 00:16:48.635 They would add that to your official record 382 00:16:49.015 --> 00:16:50.235 and there would be a record 383 00:16:50.255 --> 00:16:52.395 of it on your transcript specifically. 384 00:16:52.655 --> 00:16:55.355 You would include it in your LinkedIn profile, 385 00:16:55.495 --> 00:16:58.595 you would include it in your resume, that sort of thing. 386 00:16:58.655 --> 00:17:00.875 As you were going through the recruitment process 387 00:17:01.495 --> 00:17:03.475 for certificates, you would do the same thing 388 00:17:03.655 --> 00:17:06.475 for your resume and also for your LinkedIn profile. 389 00:17:06.895 --> 00:17:09.795 But that is a academic credential essentially. 390 00:17:09.815 --> 00:17:11.635 And so it doesn't go on the transcript. 391 00:17:11.895 --> 00:17:14.515 You would simply talk about that in an interview. 392 00:17:14.735 --> 00:17:17.675 You would put it on your profile or in your resume itself. 393 00:17:18.005 --> 00:17:21.435 There is another wonderful course if you are interested, 394 00:17:21.635 --> 00:17:24.955 a course of study that is the Center for the Business 395 00:17:24.955 --> 00:17:26.035 of Life Sciences. 396 00:17:26.665 --> 00:17:29.475 They have a undergraduate associate role 397 00:17:29.505 --> 00:17:33.515 that students can apply for as early as the sophomore year. 398 00:17:33.575 --> 00:17:36.675 And it is open to every single major at iu. 399 00:17:36.675 --> 00:17:38.035 There's not a restriction on this. 400 00:17:38.455 --> 00:17:40.075 It gets you one-on-one networking 401 00:17:40.385 --> 00:17:43.555 with executives from life sciences companies. 402 00:17:43.775 --> 00:17:46.035 It gives you the opportunity to attend some 403 00:17:46.035 --> 00:17:47.755 of these life sciences symposiums 404 00:17:47.775 --> 00:17:49.445 or conferences for really, 405 00:17:49.445 --> 00:17:51.925 really inexpensive rates or for free. 406 00:17:52.345 --> 00:17:56.765 And then you also get permission to take two classes, one 407 00:17:56.765 --> 00:17:59.405 that is on global trends in the life sciences 408 00:17:59.665 --> 00:18:01.845 and one that is on the life cycle 409 00:18:02.025 --> 00:18:04.765 of the life sciences industry from research to patients. 410 00:18:05.065 --> 00:18:07.125 And so these are all opportunities for you 411 00:18:07.635 --> 00:18:10.405 that could be really, really excellent to access 412 00:18:10.785 --> 00:18:12.485 as you move into this next phase. 413 00:18:16.615 --> 00:18:19.405 There are also opportunities for students if you decide 414 00:18:19.405 --> 00:18:22.125 that you wanna stick around for a fifth year to do 415 00:18:22.765 --> 00:18:25.645 graduate programs within Kelly graduate programs are 416 00:18:25.805 --> 00:18:28.325 completely separate from undergraduate program 417 00:18:28.335 --> 00:18:29.765 admissions in the Kelley School. 418 00:18:29.905 --> 00:18:32.925 And so if you decide that you wanna do a residence program, 419 00:18:33.805 --> 00:18:36.685 students who complete the certificate in accounting would be 420 00:18:36.685 --> 00:18:39.085 lined up to move into the MS and accounting with data 421 00:18:39.105 --> 00:18:41.245 and analytics, there is an MS in finance, 422 00:18:41.665 --> 00:18:44.165 one in information systems and one in management. 423 00:18:44.165 --> 00:18:46.645 And these are all programs that are available for you 424 00:18:46.645 --> 00:18:47.725 to apply for as a junior 425 00:18:47.785 --> 00:18:51.045 or a senior at IU from any program specifically. 426 00:18:51.465 --> 00:18:53.325 If you're more interested in an online program 427 00:18:53.745 --> 00:18:56.045 or just a little bit more education in one area, 428 00:18:56.095 --> 00:18:57.925 there are other opportunities for that as well. 429 00:18:58.145 --> 00:19:00.805 And you do not need a business degree to do these. 430 00:19:05.255 --> 00:19:06.525 Great. Well, let's go ahead 431 00:19:06.525 --> 00:19:09.525 and see what kind of questions you all might have, um, 432 00:19:09.945 --> 00:19:11.965 for Isaiah as we get started 433 00:19:12.105 --> 00:19:14.565 and then we will begin our panel shortly. 434 00:19:18.475 --> 00:19:19.525 Does anyone have a question? 435 00:19:19.525 --> 00:19:22.485 You can put it into the q and a or you can raise your hand 436 00:19:22.505 --> 00:19:24.525 and we'll call on you, whatever you would prefer. 437 00:19:25.545 --> 00:19:29.085 And if seeing none, then I will definitely be happy 438 00:19:29.085 --> 00:19:30.605 to jump right on in. 439 00:19:35.635 --> 00:19:39.085 Alright. Seeing none right now. Oh, great. 440 00:19:39.405 --> 00:19:40.605 S shanik, go ahead. What's your 441 00:19:42.605 --> 00:19:43.605 Question? So, uh, 442 00:19:43.605 --> 00:19:45.485 can you go back one slide? 443 00:19:45.745 --> 00:19:47.845 Uh, I think just, yeah. 444 00:19:48.425 --> 00:19:52.605 So is this, so, uh, first of all, um, 445 00:19:53.865 --> 00:19:57.005 the degree which you are talking about, this is 446 00:19:58.145 --> 00:20:00.605 not given under Kelley Business School. 447 00:20:00.605 --> 00:20:04.045 Correct? It's which, which business, 448 00:20:04.055 --> 00:20:05.525 which school under school, 449 00:20:05.945 --> 00:20:07.925 the degree will be available for this. 450 00:20:09.165 --> 00:20:12.325 Absolutely. So, so for this particular slide, 451 00:20:12.655 --> 00:20:15.885 these are graduate programs that result in a master's 452 00:20:15.885 --> 00:20:17.325 of science Correct. 453 00:20:17.325 --> 00:20:18.885 In these particular areas. 454 00:20:19.065 --> 00:20:21.365 And these are Kelley School of Business Degrees, 455 00:20:21.585 --> 00:20:23.165 but they are graduate programs. 456 00:20:23.545 --> 00:20:25.405 So before a student starts these, they have 457 00:20:25.405 --> 00:20:27.005 to complete the undergraduate degree. 458 00:20:27.785 --> 00:20:29.125 So the undergraduate program, 459 00:20:29.215 --> 00:20:32.205 which you have just now explained mm-hmm. 460 00:20:32.835 --> 00:20:37.045 Student can pick it up, which, uh, 461 00:20:37.385 --> 00:20:40.645 school degree will be, will, will, will they receive. 462 00:20:41.745 --> 00:20:44.525 So they will be receiving degrees from the College of Arts 463 00:20:44.545 --> 00:20:47.805 and Sciences with a major in this particular area. 464 00:20:47.985 --> 00:20:49.525 So the way that I would see a student 465 00:20:50.115 --> 00:20:53.725 line things up on their resume right, is 466 00:20:53.795 --> 00:20:55.805 that they would say, I have a degree from the College 467 00:20:55.805 --> 00:21:00.005 of Arts and Sciences in biotechnology, a minor in marketing, 468 00:21:00.545 --> 00:21:03.045 and I completed a certificate in real estate 469 00:21:03.045 --> 00:21:04.565 through the Kelly School of Business. 470 00:21:05.065 --> 00:21:07.525 And then if the student then decides to move on 471 00:21:07.525 --> 00:21:09.885 to graduate work, then they're working 472 00:21:09.885 --> 00:21:11.885 with the graduate career coaches to kind 473 00:21:11.885 --> 00:21:13.365 of format their materials. 474 00:21:13.365 --> 00:21:14.925 Does that get at what you were asking? 475 00:21:15.705 --> 00:21:17.245 Yes. I need to understand, like, 476 00:21:17.245 --> 00:21:20.565 because the, the, if if they would've guarded into a Kelly, 477 00:21:20.835 --> 00:21:23.965 then you would say that Kelly School of Business 478 00:21:24.475 --> 00:21:26.045 issuing this undergraduate degree. 479 00:21:26.045 --> 00:21:27.285 Correct. That's my point. 480 00:21:27.545 --> 00:21:31.005 The Kelley School of Business would be issuing the, uh, 481 00:21:31.215 --> 00:21:33.925 minor and they would be issuing the certificate 482 00:21:34.145 --> 00:21:35.805 itself, so Understood. 483 00:21:36.105 --> 00:21:38.045 Yep. And in the case of the graduate programs, 484 00:21:38.045 --> 00:21:41.085 the Kelley School would be grad, would be providing the ms. 485 00:21:43.655 --> 00:21:45.525 Understood. Great. Okay. 486 00:21:45.815 --> 00:21:48.285 Super. And can you go back to two slides 487 00:21:48.385 --> 00:21:49.765 before just uh mm-hmm. 488 00:21:49.875 --> 00:21:52.965 Okay. Yep. You said that this this majors 489 00:21:53.595 --> 00:21:56.645 Yeah, that actually should say minors on there. 490 00:21:56.925 --> 00:21:59.005 I messed up the slide on this component. Okay. 491 00:21:59.005 --> 00:22:00.085 So this should say minors 492 00:22:00.185 --> 00:22:02.205 and certificates and then credentials. 493 00:22:02.265 --> 00:22:05.125 So I apologize, Nik, that's confusing. Yeah, 494 00:22:06.335 --> 00:22:07.335 Understood. 495 00:22:07.665 --> 00:22:10.765 Um, go back one more slide. Mm-hmm. 496 00:22:12.705 --> 00:22:16.525 One more. I think there was a, I need to understand 497 00:22:16.525 --> 00:22:17.565 what is mean by these. 498 00:22:18.445 --> 00:22:20.645 I I didn't get the, this portion of the 499 00:22:21.065 --> 00:22:22.285 Yes, I think the, I think 500 00:22:22.305 --> 00:22:23.445 Please, Isaiah, why don't 501 00:22:23.445 --> 00:22:25.925 You, somebody explained that, but, uh, yeah, just wanted 502 00:22:25.925 --> 00:22:27.565 to understand what is mean by these courses. 503 00:22:28.425 --> 00:22:30.885 So part of our pillars that all 504 00:22:30.885 --> 00:22:32.405 of our students within the College of Arts 505 00:22:32.405 --> 00:22:34.445 and Science have, like their our case requirements, 506 00:22:34.955 --> 00:22:36.925 it's going to, we want to make sure all 507 00:22:36.925 --> 00:22:39.885 of our students are set up for success by knowing how, 508 00:22:40.235 --> 00:22:41.325 what they are studying 509 00:22:41.585 --> 00:22:43.525 and how to talk about what they're studying. 510 00:22:43.865 --> 00:22:47.005 And so these are like a 2 1 2 required course. 511 00:22:47.465 --> 00:22:50.935 The 2 95 is going to help you if you're 512 00:22:51.835 --> 00:22:53.775 unsure about your major or unsure about your current 513 00:22:53.775 --> 00:22:56.815 pathway, how to solidify, making sure like 514 00:22:57.675 --> 00:22:59.125 this is what you want to do. 515 00:22:59.825 --> 00:23:03.125 Um, while 2 99 is going to talk more about like, 516 00:23:03.345 --> 00:23:07.125 how can you share that story in order to like, um, how 517 00:23:07.125 --> 00:23:08.845 to share your story when you're in an interview, 518 00:23:09.075 --> 00:23:11.045 when you're trying to get internships. 519 00:23:11.045 --> 00:23:15.725 Like how do you talk about, um, your pathway, um, 520 00:23:16.895 --> 00:23:19.315 in a sense to communicate that story. 521 00:23:20.375 --> 00:23:22.395 So there, it's a, um, 522 00:23:22.875 --> 00:23:25.995 I believe a one credit 50 minutes a week 523 00:23:26.185 --> 00:23:27.395 type course for both of these. 524 00:23:27.555 --> 00:23:31.015 I think they're eight weeks. Um, yeah. 525 00:23:31.015 --> 00:23:35.535 So it, it's not, not a like a full like three credit 526 00:23:35.635 --> 00:23:36.695 or four credit class. 527 00:23:36.845 --> 00:23:39.415 It's something to help prepare you just for the future. 528 00:23:39.915 --> 00:23:42.935 Uh, that's given through our, um, career center. 529 00:23:45.285 --> 00:23:48.225 Got it. And when can we take these courses? 530 00:23:48.525 --> 00:23:51.025 Can we, can they take these courses in next semester? 531 00:23:51.615 --> 00:23:55.305 Yeah. So, um, Q2 95, you're able to take right now, 532 00:23:55.305 --> 00:23:57.865 like if you want to throw that in your shopping cart, 533 00:23:57.965 --> 00:23:59.585 you can take that this semester. 534 00:23:59.925 --> 00:24:02.065 Um, 2 99 I believe is only offered 535 00:24:02.085 --> 00:24:03.465 for sophomores and juniors. 536 00:24:04.005 --> 00:24:05.665 Got it. No, I understand. 537 00:24:05.745 --> 00:24:08.345 I was, uh, I was very specific about 2 95 only. 538 00:24:08.455 --> 00:24:09.945 Yeah. Good. Okay. 539 00:24:10.485 --> 00:24:11.905 And they also offer other courses 540 00:24:12.165 --> 00:24:14.185 and like I threw that on this slide as well, 541 00:24:14.375 --> 00:24:17.025 just in case you want to have additional experiences, 542 00:24:17.045 --> 00:24:20.505 but those aren't required, um, for a college student, uh, 543 00:24:20.505 --> 00:24:21.705 college arts and sciences students. 544 00:24:23.175 --> 00:24:27.725 Understood. And if this, so, uh, 545 00:24:27.955 --> 00:24:29.125 this Art and science 546 00:24:29.825 --> 00:24:34.045 and Kelly, what's a major difference will be like, 547 00:24:34.185 --> 00:24:35.245 is it a three year course 548 00:24:35.265 --> 00:24:36.605 or four year course kind of things? 549 00:24:36.775 --> 00:24:37.775 How's that? 550 00:24:38.345 --> 00:24:41.605 No, most of the degrees are at IU are designed 551 00:24:41.625 --> 00:24:45.245 to be four year degrees, uh, for students to complete. 552 00:24:45.425 --> 00:24:49.405 So they would be, this webinar is being offered for students 553 00:24:49.425 --> 00:24:52.445 who are maybe pivoting from a degree that they were planning 554 00:24:52.465 --> 00:24:56.125 to pursue in the Kelley School over to a degree 555 00:24:56.125 --> 00:24:57.325 that they would complete in the College 556 00:24:57.325 --> 00:24:58.365 of Arts and Sciences. 557 00:24:58.625 --> 00:25:02.685 And so if they chose to do a degree in economics 558 00:25:02.685 --> 00:25:03.845 or media advertising 559 00:25:03.845 --> 00:25:06.205 or something along those lines, those would be degrees 560 00:25:06.205 --> 00:25:08.685 that they would complete out of the College of Arts 561 00:25:08.705 --> 00:25:11.165 and Sciences, but they would still be able to pursue 562 00:25:11.685 --> 00:25:14.325 a business focused career as a part of that. 563 00:25:15.275 --> 00:25:18.365 Yeah. And on top of that, if you're looking CreditWise, 564 00:25:18.545 --> 00:25:23.085 all of our, um, majors have about 120 credit, 565 00:25:23.505 --> 00:25:24.805 um, requirements. 566 00:25:24.985 --> 00:25:29.165 So like, um, between building majors, minor certificates, 567 00:25:29.225 --> 00:25:31.285 it will help you get towards that degree. 568 00:25:33.885 --> 00:25:36.125 Absolutely. Well, I'm gonna go ahead 569 00:25:36.225 --> 00:25:38.805 and move us into our interview process. 570 00:25:39.385 --> 00:25:42.325 If there are additional questions, please feel free 571 00:25:42.385 --> 00:25:45.525 to pose those in the chat or in the q and a. 572 00:25:45.785 --> 00:25:49.085 And we have some additional help, uh, here 573 00:25:49.085 --> 00:25:51.845 with us in the form of some academic advising colleagues 574 00:25:51.845 --> 00:25:53.925 who will be able to do a great, great work with that. 575 00:25:54.065 --> 00:25:55.325 So Ashley 576 00:25:55.505 --> 00:25:59.205 and Alex, I am so grateful that you are spending time 577 00:25:59.205 --> 00:26:00.885 with us today, so thank you so much. 578 00:26:01.625 --> 00:26:04.765 Uh, before we get into kind of the specifics, I wanna start 579 00:26:04.765 --> 00:26:05.845 with you as people, right? 580 00:26:05.845 --> 00:26:09.405 Like right outta the gate. So can you again, you know, share 581 00:26:09.405 --> 00:26:11.445 where you're from about what you're studying, 582 00:26:11.745 --> 00:26:14.325 and then give me one word that describes about 583 00:26:14.325 --> 00:26:16.485 how you're feeling about your future right now. 584 00:26:17.945 --> 00:26:20.605 Future, um, Ashley, if you want me to go first 585 00:26:20.745 --> 00:26:22.565 so I can go first. Yeah, go 586 00:26:22.565 --> 00:26:23.565 For it, Alex. 587 00:26:24.185 --> 00:26:27.165 Um, so I'm Alexander Picard Lease. 588 00:26:27.685 --> 00:26:29.245 I was born and raised in France, 589 00:26:29.375 --> 00:26:32.525 moved here about five years ago, uh, to the United States. 590 00:26:33.465 --> 00:26:36.885 Um, and I'm studying biotech 591 00:26:37.395 --> 00:26:40.285 because I'm planning on going into the commercial side 592 00:26:40.345 --> 00:26:44.445 of the life sciences, so whether that is pharma, biotech 593 00:26:44.825 --> 00:26:46.125 or med tech. 594 00:26:47.025 --> 00:26:51.285 Um, and right now I'm feeling pretty 595 00:26:51.795 --> 00:26:54.245 excited about my future, I should say. 596 00:26:54.865 --> 00:26:57.485 Um, recently in the last, uh, two weeks, 597 00:26:57.565 --> 00:27:01.685 I actually signed an offer for an internship in my, uh, 598 00:27:02.895 --> 00:27:07.205 Longo, which is a big, uh, animal veterinary company. 599 00:27:07.745 --> 00:27:12.005 And, uh, that's kind of the plan right now. 600 00:27:12.385 --> 00:27:14.445 So I, I should say excited. 601 00:27:15.585 --> 00:27:20.205 That's awesome. Hey, I am Ashley. 602 00:27:20.425 --> 00:27:22.285 I'm originally from Indianapolis 603 00:27:22.585 --> 00:27:24.845 and I'm studying, again, organizational 604 00:27:24.905 --> 00:27:27.205 and business psychology, which really combines 605 00:27:27.205 --> 00:27:29.645 that human aspect of social psychology 606 00:27:30.165 --> 00:27:31.285 behavior within the workforce. 607 00:27:32.025 --> 00:27:35.165 And hence why I added on my minor in Human Resources 608 00:27:35.165 --> 00:27:38.045 management because the two course, the two concepts, 609 00:27:38.045 --> 00:27:39.765 they very heavily correlate with each other, 610 00:27:39.945 --> 00:27:42.085 and they're both topics that I really enjoy. 611 00:27:42.865 --> 00:27:45.085 So knowing that I'm a senior, I've gotten 612 00:27:45.085 --> 00:27:47.765 to experience different HR internships here in Indy, 613 00:27:48.065 --> 00:27:51.485 one at a private insurance firm, and then one at Eli Lilly. 614 00:27:51.905 --> 00:27:54.285 And then I would say to describe my whole college 615 00:27:54.285 --> 00:27:56.925 experience, I would say a accomplished just 616 00:27:56.925 --> 00:28:00.005 because, similar to Alex, I recently signed an offer 617 00:28:00.025 --> 00:28:02.205 to go work at Wells Fargo after graduation. 618 00:28:03.585 --> 00:28:07.205 That's so exciting. Great. Well, thank you both so much. 619 00:28:07.355 --> 00:28:08.525 Wonderful work. 620 00:28:09.225 --> 00:28:11.565 I'm interested in hearing, Ashley, maybe you could start 621 00:28:11.565 --> 00:28:13.685 with this and then Alex, if you want to jump in, 622 00:28:14.145 --> 00:28:16.565 was there a turning point for you 623 00:28:17.135 --> 00:28:20.365 early on in your education, like a conversation or a class 624 00:28:20.505 --> 00:28:22.245 or an advisor or an experience 625 00:28:22.245 --> 00:28:25.245 or something that happened that really helped you see like, 626 00:28:25.345 --> 00:28:27.885 oh, this is the major I'm supposed to be doing 627 00:28:28.025 --> 00:28:29.285 and this is where I want to go? 628 00:28:30.235 --> 00:28:32.805 Yeah, certainly. So to kind of pivot it from a little bit, 629 00:28:32.825 --> 00:28:35.005 I'm gonna start from a moment where I realize I need 630 00:28:35.165 --> 00:28:37.045 to shift my major to find my true passion. 631 00:28:37.785 --> 00:28:39.085 And that's partially why. 632 00:28:39.425 --> 00:28:41.525 One of the reasons why I chose to come to IU was 633 00:28:41.525 --> 00:28:44.525 because as a freshman I was able to get right involved 634 00:28:44.525 --> 00:28:46.165 with research through the Assure program. 635 00:28:46.885 --> 00:28:50.045 I was in a lab called Exploring the Brain via EEG, 636 00:28:50.045 --> 00:28:51.565 which was super cool, you know, 637 00:28:51.565 --> 00:28:54.365 as a freshman we're using medical equipment, really getting 638 00:28:54.365 --> 00:28:57.245 that hands-on experience, it was a great opportunity. 639 00:28:57.555 --> 00:29:00.685 However, at the very end of the semester, I learned 640 00:29:00.685 --> 00:29:02.365 that research, it wasn't for me. 641 00:29:02.585 --> 00:29:04.205 And that's completely normal 642 00:29:04.435 --> 00:29:06.325 because since it's not for me, 643 00:29:06.325 --> 00:29:07.445 doesn't mean it's not for other people. 644 00:29:08.185 --> 00:29:10.925 But that was really my spark moment of where I needed 645 00:29:10.925 --> 00:29:12.805 to shift from clinical psychology 646 00:29:12.865 --> 00:29:14.685 to really figure out what my passions are. 647 00:29:15.425 --> 00:29:17.765 So after that research lab is when I started exploring 648 00:29:17.765 --> 00:29:18.965 different majors within the college 649 00:29:18.965 --> 00:29:22.205 because I knew I still wanted that liberal arts background, 650 00:29:22.205 --> 00:29:23.925 which is where I found the organizational 651 00:29:24.075 --> 00:29:25.405 more business side of psychology. 652 00:29:25.865 --> 00:29:28.085 So I'd say that was my way of finding 653 00:29:28.085 --> 00:29:29.685 what I wanted to do and pursue you. 654 00:29:33.155 --> 00:29:36.765 Yeah, absolutely. And I would love to add a a point to, 655 00:29:37.705 --> 00:29:41.365 uh, our lovely advisors at the College of Arts and Sciences. 656 00:29:41.625 --> 00:29:45.885 The reason I'm actually a biotech major is thanks to one 657 00:29:45.885 --> 00:29:48.405 of our advisors, and it was actually, uh, our, 658 00:29:48.505 --> 00:29:50.485 my very first meeting at orientation 659 00:29:50.495 --> 00:29:53.325 where I came in only knowing I liked biology, 660 00:29:54.345 --> 00:29:58.445 and just through a 30 minute conversation with my advisor, 661 00:29:58.705 --> 00:30:00.845 she explained every single thing about 662 00:30:01.795 --> 00:30:04.565 what this degree entailed and what I wanted to do. 663 00:30:04.565 --> 00:30:07.205 And she really got to know what I was feeling like. 664 00:30:07.265 --> 00:30:09.885 And she was like, you know what, try this intro 665 00:30:09.885 --> 00:30:12.645 to biotech class and tell me how you feel about it, 666 00:30:12.645 --> 00:30:14.165 and if you like it, we'll switch you over to biotech 667 00:30:14.165 --> 00:30:16.525 because it seems like it's a really good fit for you. 668 00:30:17.705 --> 00:30:21.485 And took that class love. Absolutely loved it. 669 00:30:21.645 --> 00:30:23.925 I, I had a meeting with her at the end of the semester 670 00:30:23.925 --> 00:30:25.845 and I said, change me, change, change me 671 00:30:25.845 --> 00:30:28.925 to biotech right now, because this is really nice. 672 00:30:29.785 --> 00:30:31.525 That's such a great experience. 673 00:30:32.275 --> 00:30:33.605 This is a, a question for you. 674 00:30:33.605 --> 00:30:37.605 What do you genuinely love the most about your major, Alex? 675 00:30:37.675 --> 00:30:39.245 Like, not just what looks good on the resume, 676 00:30:39.345 --> 00:30:42.325 but like what actually keeps you pulled into it 677 00:30:42.505 --> 00:30:44.045 and then Ashley will turn to you? 678 00:30:45.545 --> 00:30:49.165 Um, I'm a bit of, um, a nerd in regards 679 00:30:49.165 --> 00:30:52.445 where I do just genuinely enjoy biology. 680 00:30:53.665 --> 00:30:58.405 Um, biotech is just like a really fun mix 681 00:30:58.465 --> 00:31:00.765 of theoretical biology and application, 682 00:31:00.945 --> 00:31:04.645 and then also industry, uh, knowledge. 683 00:31:04.905 --> 00:31:07.325 Uh, we have a few classes which do couple that, 684 00:31:07.325 --> 00:31:10.205 that industry knowledge from the professional industry. 685 00:31:11.025 --> 00:31:13.405 And being able to understand that 686 00:31:13.425 --> 00:31:16.365 and apply that to the real world is super interesting to me. 687 00:31:18.945 --> 00:31:21.965 For me, what I love about my major is I love learning 688 00:31:21.965 --> 00:31:23.525 about the brain, even though it's more 689 00:31:23.525 --> 00:31:25.525 of the clinical science route, I'm still able 690 00:31:25.525 --> 00:31:28.045 to incorporate some of those aspects into more of my, 691 00:31:28.045 --> 00:31:30.045 the career path that I'm choosing, which is hr. 692 00:31:30.825 --> 00:31:33.525 And what I really love about my minor is it has a lot 693 00:31:33.525 --> 00:31:35.645 of those classes that you can learn about different 694 00:31:35.885 --> 00:31:38.205 functions within HR and see really what your niche is, 695 00:31:38.205 --> 00:31:39.525 what you like and what you don't like. 696 00:31:40.165 --> 00:31:42.085 Recently I was taking an employment law class, 697 00:31:42.255 --> 00:31:45.325 which while I'm not pursuing law, a lot of those concepts 698 00:31:45.325 --> 00:31:46.445 that I learned, I'll be able to 699 00:31:46.555 --> 00:31:47.765 take with me to the workforce. 700 00:31:48.105 --> 00:31:49.925 So that's a just a, those are just a few things 701 00:31:49.925 --> 00:31:51.165 that I love about my major. 702 00:31:52.265 --> 00:31:54.045 Can you share a class or a project 703 00:31:54.105 --> 00:31:56.445 or assignment that made you kind of click in 704 00:31:56.445 --> 00:31:58.405 and say like, oh, I can see myself doing this 705 00:31:58.535 --> 00:31:59.565 after I graduate? 706 00:32:02.085 --> 00:32:05.085 I, I wanna say with my employment law class, I, it's more 707 00:32:05.085 --> 00:32:06.805 so the professor, the professors 708 00:32:06.805 --> 00:32:09.325 who really made me fall in love with that topic and concept. 709 00:32:09.545 --> 00:32:13.045 And so while I can't go into employment law without a law 710 00:32:13.045 --> 00:32:14.485 degree, law degree, um, 711 00:32:14.965 --> 00:32:16.765 I still wanna tap into those areas for sure. 712 00:32:16.865 --> 00:32:19.885 And then I think compensation, taking that course, 713 00:32:19.895 --> 00:32:21.525 which I'm gonna take actually next semester, 714 00:32:21.555 --> 00:32:24.085 just hearing things from the professor in a one-on-one 715 00:32:24.085 --> 00:32:25.965 conversation really sparked me as like, okay, 716 00:32:26.445 --> 00:32:28.405 I like numbers, I wanna go that direction. 717 00:32:28.505 --> 00:32:30.925 So I'm excited to actually take that course next semester. 718 00:32:31.945 --> 00:32:33.685 That's awesome. And Alex, how about you? 719 00:32:33.945 --> 00:32:35.285 Is there a class, a project 720 00:32:35.385 --> 00:32:37.685 or assignment where you're like, oh yeah, I see 721 00:32:37.685 --> 00:32:39.565 how this is going to, I could do 722 00:32:39.565 --> 00:32:40.645 this thing in the real world? 723 00:32:41.595 --> 00:32:45.165 Yeah. Um, actually the intro to biotech class, 724 00:32:45.375 --> 00:32:49.725 funny enough, um, he, the, the professor teaching 725 00:32:49.725 --> 00:32:50.845 that class was actually the head 726 00:32:50.845 --> 00:32:53.205 of the biotechnology department, uh, Dr. 727 00:32:53.235 --> 00:32:55.725 Bolivar, and he's a incredible professor. 728 00:32:56.465 --> 00:32:59.125 Um, and one of the assignments was a weekly 729 00:33:00.745 --> 00:33:04.725 2, 3, 4 page essay about a current, uh, 730 00:33:06.105 --> 00:33:07.845 effect on the market, let's just say. 731 00:33:08.625 --> 00:33:11.605 And because this class was open to anybody, 732 00:33:11.625 --> 00:33:14.005 it wasn't necessarily just STEM majors, it could have been 733 00:33:14.005 --> 00:33:16.245 for Kelly majors 734 00:33:16.245 --> 00:33:18.325 that were interested in the life sciences or whatnot. 735 00:33:18.825 --> 00:33:21.405 Um, it wasn't super science based. 736 00:33:21.585 --> 00:33:24.325 But what was really amazing about this assignment is 737 00:33:24.325 --> 00:33:28.805 that I could take a product on the market, explain it 738 00:33:29.035 --> 00:33:31.245 through science, through what I enjoy, knowing, 739 00:33:31.555 --> 00:33:32.645 understanding it, 740 00:33:33.225 --> 00:33:36.725 and then explaining why it's been a success on in the 741 00:33:36.725 --> 00:33:40.565 market, why, um, there's a, this, 742 00:33:40.595 --> 00:33:42.365 this has opened new doors down 743 00:33:42.425 --> 00:33:44.125 for other products for other companies. 744 00:33:44.745 --> 00:33:48.285 And genuinely that essay was all about the crossover 745 00:33:48.395 --> 00:33:50.645 between science and and business essentially. 746 00:33:50.705 --> 00:33:53.045 And that really made me understand 747 00:33:53.465 --> 00:33:56.845 how much I enjoyed applying that hard science 748 00:33:57.185 --> 00:33:59.365 to the business world. 749 00:34:00.395 --> 00:34:03.525 When you're thinking about that, Alex, how do you think 750 00:34:03.525 --> 00:34:06.405 as a whole, your major helps you understand business in a 751 00:34:06.405 --> 00:34:07.765 way that feels different, right? 752 00:34:07.825 --> 00:34:10.765 Or even broader than a traditional Yeah. Business path? 753 00:34:12.405 --> 00:34:14.045 Absolutely. So, I mean, there's a couple 754 00:34:14.045 --> 00:34:15.125 different things to that. 755 00:34:15.305 --> 00:34:18.765 Um, typically for my industry, for example, I mean 756 00:34:20.105 --> 00:34:22.085 for, for the pharmaceutical industry, 757 00:34:22.345 --> 00:34:25.805 having a background in science, in bio, you know, 758 00:34:25.805 --> 00:34:30.125 biological biology, um, anything like that is, you know, 759 00:34:30.185 --> 00:34:32.325 self-explanatory and super helpful. 760 00:34:32.465 --> 00:34:34.365 But also biotech 761 00:34:34.945 --> 00:34:37.445 and the STEM degree in general is very analytical. 762 00:34:38.505 --> 00:34:40.965 And if I'm thinking about degrees 763 00:34:41.185 --> 00:34:44.045 or areas such as supply chain, for example, 764 00:34:44.045 --> 00:34:48.205 which is just a super analytical area of, of business, this, 765 00:34:49.825 --> 00:34:52.325 we can easily transfer those soft 766 00:34:52.385 --> 00:34:56.445 and hard skills over from, from biotech, from my degree, 767 00:34:56.795 --> 00:34:59.325 into understanding the supply chain, trying 768 00:34:59.325 --> 00:35:01.045 to fix problems for the supply chain. 769 00:35:01.465 --> 00:35:06.365 And then conversely, the other way around with three 770 00:35:06.985 --> 00:35:11.645 and with other classes, which are not as much of hard, uh, 771 00:35:11.645 --> 00:35:14.645 science such as the intro to biotech class, um, 772 00:35:15.435 --> 00:35:18.045 that really helps for human connections. 773 00:35:18.125 --> 00:35:20.885 I mean, we had a bunch of, in that class we had a bunch of, 774 00:35:21.065 --> 00:35:25.765 uh, group assignments, uh, actual industry projects. 775 00:35:25.785 --> 00:35:27.845 We had a mock debate 776 00:35:28.535 --> 00:35:31.885 about whether a product was ethical or not ethical, 777 00:35:32.385 --> 00:35:34.245 and all of that like 778 00:35:37.375 --> 00:35:39.845 gives you a bunch of soft skills, which then you can go 779 00:35:39.845 --> 00:35:41.405 and apply to sales, which then you can go 780 00:35:41.405 --> 00:35:44.605 and apply to management and then you can go and apply to hr. 781 00:35:45.345 --> 00:35:48.165 Um, and I mean, 782 00:35:48.545 --> 00:35:50.765 that's maybe just just being my side, 783 00:35:50.825 --> 00:35:52.365 but I really do see the value 784 00:35:52.365 --> 00:35:57.245 and the, the breadth, the the of 785 00:35:58.155 --> 00:35:59.845 what my degree teaches me. 786 00:36:00.865 --> 00:36:04.165 And Ashley, as you're wrapping up this part right, 787 00:36:04.305 --> 00:36:08.245 of your journey, my question for you specifically is 788 00:36:08.945 --> 00:36:10.845 how has being in your major 789 00:36:10.945 --> 00:36:13.885 and with your minor program really changed the way 790 00:36:14.395 --> 00:36:15.485 that you see yourself? 791 00:36:15.675 --> 00:36:18.565 Like as a student, as a professional, as a leader? 792 00:36:18.635 --> 00:36:21.165 Like what have been the things that you've said like, oh, 793 00:36:21.955 --> 00:36:23.725 this is how I have evolved in this way? 794 00:36:24.795 --> 00:36:27.525 Yeah, I think when I was a freshman, I really only thought 795 00:36:27.525 --> 00:36:29.845 of myself as just this one person. 796 00:36:30.085 --> 00:36:31.605 I really didn't think I could expand 797 00:36:31.705 --> 00:36:33.645 or really diversify my portfolio. 798 00:36:34.385 --> 00:36:37.325 But as I've gone through each of my four years, I really, 799 00:36:37.465 --> 00:36:39.085 one diversified my skillset, 800 00:36:39.305 --> 00:36:40.925 but also just my knowledge 801 00:36:40.925 --> 00:36:43.525 of whether it was in the HR function, even pharmacy area 802 00:36:44.065 --> 00:36:46.605 or even, um, I would say the financial world as well. 803 00:36:46.605 --> 00:36:49.325 Because with my major, I had a lot of room for electives 804 00:36:49.325 --> 00:36:51.085 and I chose to take some Kelly classes, 805 00:36:51.215 --> 00:36:52.845 which is certainly allowed 806 00:36:52.845 --> 00:36:54.325 as a college of art and sciences major. 807 00:36:54.445 --> 00:36:56.485 I took intro to accounting and personal finance. 808 00:36:57.065 --> 00:36:59.925 And so I still got that technical side from a college 809 00:36:59.925 --> 00:37:01.205 of arts and sciences background. 810 00:37:01.345 --> 00:37:04.445 So I'd really say, I think from my four years, 811 00:37:04.515 --> 00:37:06.965 it's being able to diversify my portfolio 812 00:37:07.025 --> 00:37:09.645 and being able to kind articulate how 813 00:37:09.725 --> 00:37:11.325 that's benefited me and showcase that, 814 00:37:12.185 --> 00:37:14.005 Uh, what are the things that you've done. 815 00:37:14.225 --> 00:37:16.365 And I'll ask you this next, Alex, what are the things 816 00:37:16.365 --> 00:37:17.885 that you've done outside of the classroom? 817 00:37:17.915 --> 00:37:20.485 Like what kind of clubs and organizations and 818 00:37:20.745 --> 00:37:22.765 and things have you pursued? 819 00:37:23.025 --> 00:37:25.125 And what I'd be particularly interested in is hearing how 820 00:37:25.125 --> 00:37:27.045 that might have changed from the first year to 821 00:37:27.045 --> 00:37:28.205 where you are right now. 822 00:37:28.915 --> 00:37:31.565 Yeah, well, one of the first extracurriculars I'll talk 823 00:37:31.565 --> 00:37:33.405 about is why I'm able to do this here right now, 824 00:37:33.405 --> 00:37:35.805 being on the panel, I'm a student ambassador for the College 825 00:37:35.805 --> 00:37:37.925 of Art and Sciences, which means I'm able 826 00:37:37.925 --> 00:37:38.965 to give college tours 827 00:37:38.985 --> 00:37:41.485 or be a part of college information sessions 828 00:37:41.485 --> 00:37:43.765 for incoming students or prospective students wanting 829 00:37:43.765 --> 00:37:47.205 to pursue, you know, their college career at iu. 830 00:37:47.485 --> 00:37:49.525 I have had this job since my sophomore year 831 00:37:49.545 --> 00:37:51.205 and it's given me a lot of different opportunities. 832 00:37:51.345 --> 00:37:54.005 So I've loved just having a job on campus through that. 833 00:37:54.425 --> 00:37:56.885 I'd say some of the more other clubs I've been a part of, 834 00:37:57.025 --> 00:38:00.725 one is 10 x here at iu, I call that more of my fun club 835 00:38:00.725 --> 00:38:02.325 where I just get to, I would 836 00:38:02.325 --> 00:38:03.445 say it's not school related at all. 837 00:38:03.525 --> 00:38:04.925 I wanted to enjoy some, I wanted 838 00:38:04.925 --> 00:38:06.205 to be have fun, I would say. 839 00:38:06.305 --> 00:38:07.725 And so that one's cool 840 00:38:07.725 --> 00:38:09.325 because we get a, as students, we get 841 00:38:09.325 --> 00:38:12.045 to bring a TED Talk conference to life on campus. 842 00:38:12.695 --> 00:38:15.925 Other extracurriculars I'm involved in are a professional 843 00:38:16.165 --> 00:38:19.045 business fraternity where I've really been able to learn 844 00:38:19.065 --> 00:38:22.325 and enhance my technical interview and resume skills. 845 00:38:22.945 --> 00:38:25.525 And then currently right now I'm on the board 846 00:38:25.525 --> 00:38:27.605 for a human resources association club. 847 00:38:28.105 --> 00:38:29.325 I'm the director of membership. 848 00:38:29.385 --> 00:38:32.205 So with that, I never would've thought freshman year I'd be 849 00:38:32.205 --> 00:38:33.805 going into business or hr. 850 00:38:34.225 --> 00:38:37.445 And so it's kind of not false, it's just kind of funny 851 00:38:37.465 --> 00:38:39.925 to see how things work, but I always have been a firm 852 00:38:40.165 --> 00:38:41.125 believer that trust the process, 853 00:38:41.125 --> 00:38:42.445 everything works in the end. 854 00:38:42.545 --> 00:38:46.085 And so I would say that's how my, what I've been involved in 855 00:38:46.085 --> 00:38:47.565 and what's changed throughout my four years. 856 00:38:48.305 --> 00:38:49.765 That's neat. Alex, how about you? 857 00:38:51.195 --> 00:38:54.285 Yeah, actually, well the, the problem here is 858 00:38:54.285 --> 00:38:57.925 that Ashley kind of stole all of my extracurriculars. 859 00:38:58.785 --> 00:39:03.605 Um, So I'm also in our, 860 00:39:03.815 --> 00:39:05.405 we're in the same business fraternity, 861 00:39:05.465 --> 00:39:06.885 the same Kelly fraternity. 862 00:39:06.885 --> 00:39:09.645 That's actually how we met. And then she 863 00:39:10.165 --> 00:39:12.765 actually recommended me for the student ambassador position, 864 00:39:12.765 --> 00:39:13.845 which is also what I am. 865 00:39:14.505 --> 00:39:17.205 And so without Ashley, we wouldn't be here. 866 00:39:17.705 --> 00:39:21.085 But also I agree with everything she said. 867 00:39:21.415 --> 00:39:22.925 Being an ambassador is amazing. 868 00:39:23.265 --> 00:39:26.005 Um, I get to meet so many people, connect with 869 00:39:26.005 --> 00:39:30.645 so many people, and kind of show my side of 870 00:39:31.585 --> 00:39:33.765 my degree, my life at IU and everything. 871 00:39:34.425 --> 00:39:38.405 Um, and then, uh, our, our fraternity is, 872 00:39:38.945 --> 00:39:41.245 has been one of my, the best decisions I've taken 873 00:39:41.505 --> 00:39:46.485 as somebody who aspires to go into to, to business, um, just 874 00:39:48.165 --> 00:39:49.405 'cause I did it freshman year. 875 00:39:49.645 --> 00:39:52.805 I, I didn't have much experience with job recruiting, 876 00:39:53.185 --> 00:39:54.765 resume work and anything. 877 00:39:55.465 --> 00:39:58.685 Um, and it's really nice to be able to go and, 878 00:39:58.745 --> 00:40:00.485 and meet a bunch of people who are in Kelly. 879 00:40:00.645 --> 00:40:02.805 I mean, Ashley and I are like one 880 00:40:02.805 --> 00:40:06.365 of like 10 people in our fraternity who aren't in Kelly, um, 881 00:40:06.425 --> 00:40:07.885 out of like 150. 882 00:40:08.505 --> 00:40:12.805 Um, and so it's really nice to have to be surrounded 883 00:40:12.805 --> 00:40:15.445 by these people that are in Kelly and in business 884 00:40:15.585 --> 00:40:16.685 and everything. 885 00:40:17.025 --> 00:40:20.485 Um, and then finally the one that actually didn't steal 886 00:40:20.505 --> 00:40:23.845 for me, I'm actually part of, uh, ICMS, 887 00:40:23.845 --> 00:40:26.965 which is intercollegiate, uh, emergency medical services, 888 00:40:27.575 --> 00:40:30.645 which a lot of people do when they want to go into 889 00:40:31.385 --> 00:40:34.125 med school, ea school, nursing. 890 00:40:34.985 --> 00:40:38.365 Um, I just did it for fun that, that can sound kind 891 00:40:38.365 --> 00:40:41.525 of like weird for people like while you, you're doing you, 892 00:40:41.525 --> 00:40:46.445 you know, first aid and you know, all of that for, for fun. 893 00:40:46.585 --> 00:40:50.245 I'm like, yeah, I mean, it's kind of the, the things I like 894 00:40:50.245 --> 00:40:52.965 and there's so many options at IU to join clubs that, 895 00:40:52.965 --> 00:40:54.045 that you really enjoy. 896 00:40:54.905 --> 00:40:58.365 Um, and never would I have thought that I'd be, you know, 897 00:40:58.365 --> 00:40:59.685 working little five events 898 00:40:59.785 --> 00:41:03.125 and stuff as, as a in the med tent. 899 00:41:03.585 --> 00:41:04.585 So 900 00:41:04.905 --> 00:41:05.905 That's really great. 901 00:41:06.005 --> 00:41:10.045 I love that. I think what your, your story highlights Alex, 902 00:41:10.145 --> 00:41:12.445 is how powerful networking is, right? 903 00:41:12.445 --> 00:41:14.045 Like, we talk about networking a lot, 904 00:41:14.045 --> 00:41:17.325 like when you're going into the full-time work environment 905 00:41:17.325 --> 00:41:18.325 or an internship environment, 906 00:41:18.325 --> 00:41:22.565 but it happens right here on campus every single day, right? 907 00:41:22.565 --> 00:41:23.925 Like, you find an upper class student 908 00:41:23.945 --> 00:41:25.085 who knows what's going on and you 909 00:41:25.085 --> 00:41:26.245 want to, you want to check with them. 910 00:41:26.825 --> 00:41:28.845 Um, what do you think 911 00:41:29.555 --> 00:41:32.845 Alex is a myth about like not being in the business, school, 912 00:41:32.945 --> 00:41:37.565 school that you would like really wish would go away, right? 913 00:41:40.105 --> 00:41:43.125 The, the number one thing that comes to mind is 914 00:41:43.125 --> 00:41:45.245 that you can't, you can't go into business if 915 00:41:45.245 --> 00:41:46.285 you're not in the business school. 916 00:41:46.905 --> 00:41:51.325 Um, haven't been set on going into business 917 00:41:51.545 --> 00:41:55.365 pretty much the whole time I was applying to college, um, 918 00:41:55.875 --> 00:41:59.645 through until now, I actually applied to a bunch 919 00:41:59.645 --> 00:42:01.125 of business schools back home 920 00:42:01.145 --> 00:42:02.805 and in France and in Europe in general. 921 00:42:03.465 --> 00:42:07.365 Um, and I chose not to go into business school 922 00:42:07.365 --> 00:42:10.405 because I would rather study what I wanted to do. 923 00:42:10.545 --> 00:42:12.525 And because I came to the realization 924 00:42:12.525 --> 00:42:15.165 that you don't need a business degree to go into business. 925 00:42:15.345 --> 00:42:19.165 Mm-hmm. Now does a finance degree help with 926 00:42:20.565 --> 00:42:23.845 economics degree help with studying for the, the CFA 927 00:42:23.945 --> 00:42:27.045 or studying for the, the CPA or anything like that? 928 00:42:27.305 --> 00:42:28.645 Of course. Um, 929 00:42:28.785 --> 00:42:31.205 but I have a friend, for example, who's also in the College 930 00:42:31.205 --> 00:42:34.685 of Arts and Sciences who is a environmental science 931 00:42:34.785 --> 00:42:36.165 really major I believe. 932 00:42:36.345 --> 00:42:38.405 And he's self-studying for the CPA. 933 00:42:39.025 --> 00:42:43.005 So, or for the CFA, um, thing stops you. 934 00:42:43.145 --> 00:42:44.925 That's a big myth that I hear everybody 935 00:42:45.305 --> 00:42:47.485 or that I hear decently often. 936 00:42:48.265 --> 00:42:53.165 Um, it's all about being able to apply those skills 937 00:42:53.165 --> 00:42:54.725 that you're learning in your degree 938 00:42:55.265 --> 00:42:57.365 to whatever industry you want to go into 939 00:42:57.665 --> 00:42:59.485 or whatever industry you end up in. 940 00:43:00.105 --> 00:43:02.445 Um, and so that's the first thing that comes to mind. 941 00:43:03.185 --> 00:43:05.885 Ashley, is there any myth that you'd like to bust? 942 00:43:07.805 --> 00:43:10.845 I feel like Alex definitely kinda grabbed the bow on that, 943 00:43:10.865 --> 00:43:15.725 but I think, I think another myth would be that you don't, 944 00:43:16.365 --> 00:43:19.685 I maybe not a myth, it's that with a liberal arts degree, 945 00:43:19.705 --> 00:43:22.685 you can't get technical skills, I would say, 946 00:43:22.685 --> 00:43:25.045 and I wanna definitely de debunk that 947 00:43:25.045 --> 00:43:27.165 because certainly you can, I mean the college office, 948 00:43:27.345 --> 00:43:30.245 so many of those, um, like one-on-one resources 949 00:43:30.245 --> 00:43:32.365 where you can one, enhance your interviews 950 00:43:32.505 --> 00:43:35.205 or how to articulate yourself and showcase your value. 951 00:43:35.745 --> 00:43:38.405 Um, I think it's the issue is that you never know 952 00:43:38.405 --> 00:43:39.685 what resources are available. 953 00:43:39.785 --> 00:43:43.885 So it's really your job to one, pursue the initiative 954 00:43:43.905 --> 00:43:45.925 to actually find those, but once you do, you're able 955 00:43:45.925 --> 00:43:47.885 to leverage them to your benefit and really get 956 00:43:47.885 --> 00:43:50.805 that technical skill and pursue a degree in business if you 957 00:43:50.805 --> 00:43:53.405 choose to or pursue a degree with a college of art 958 00:43:53.405 --> 00:43:55.445 and sciences and the business field if you choose. 959 00:43:55.465 --> 00:43:56.465 So. 960 00:43:56.765 --> 00:44:00.565 Absolutely. Well, my closing question for each of you is 961 00:44:00.955 --> 00:44:02.965 what advice, and Ashley you could start, 962 00:44:03.035 --> 00:44:05.445 what advice would you give students about making the most 963 00:44:05.445 --> 00:44:08.365 of a major that they didn't originally intend to pursue? 964 00:44:09.765 --> 00:44:12.605 I have learned from, honestly, my first semester 965 00:44:12.605 --> 00:44:15.125 that college does not have to be a linear experience. 966 00:44:15.515 --> 00:44:17.485 When I first came to iu, I thought I had to stick 967 00:44:17.485 --> 00:44:20.125 to this one major that if I switched it, I wouldn't be able 968 00:44:20.125 --> 00:44:21.405 to graduate within four years. 969 00:44:21.665 --> 00:44:24.245 But I was fortunately wrong on that. 970 00:44:24.425 --> 00:44:27.645 Um, after I switched my major, I was able to see how one, 971 00:44:27.685 --> 00:44:28.845 I can still graduate on time, 972 00:44:28.905 --> 00:44:32.885 but then also really pursue my own way, kind 973 00:44:32.885 --> 00:44:33.925 of do the backdoor of business, 974 00:44:33.925 --> 00:44:34.965 which I really have been loving. 975 00:44:35.035 --> 00:44:37.925 It's who I am, it's what my pa what I'm passionate about. 976 00:44:38.305 --> 00:44:40.885 And so I'd say that's, that was my little, uh, 977 00:44:40.885 --> 00:44:42.085 piece of advice I would give. 978 00:44:42.665 --> 00:44:44.205 That's great. Alex, how about you? 979 00:44:46.035 --> 00:44:49.295 Um, I have a, a couple pieces of advice. 980 00:44:49.625 --> 00:44:54.015 First of all, whatever you take, you're gonna have a bunch 981 00:44:54.015 --> 00:44:57.815 of opportunities to diversify your knowledge, 982 00:44:57.965 --> 00:44:59.975 your interests, anything. 983 00:45:00.215 --> 00:45:04.255 I mean, even within the college, we have call C, which is, 984 00:45:04.255 --> 00:45:06.095 you know, critical approaches. 985 00:45:06.835 --> 00:45:09.375 Um, we have to take a certain amount of breadth 986 00:45:09.375 --> 00:45:12.975 of inquiry credits, which means just credits about anything 987 00:45:12.975 --> 00:45:15.015 that you're not studying essentially. 988 00:45:15.555 --> 00:45:19.815 Um, and I think that if you are able to take advantage 989 00:45:19.915 --> 00:45:24.055 of those classes and really learn about new things 990 00:45:24.365 --> 00:45:27.415 that you may not even know of, I mean, you know, 991 00:45:27.415 --> 00:45:30.015 you could add a minor in, in anything 992 00:45:30.015 --> 00:45:33.095 that you're even interested in and take advantage of that 993 00:45:33.095 --> 00:45:36.415 because that's something that's a tool that we have 994 00:45:36.715 --> 00:45:37.895 as students, um, 995 00:45:37.895 --> 00:45:40.255 that I think not enough people take advantage of 996 00:45:40.275 --> 00:45:41.815 and it's just so beneficial. 997 00:45:42.515 --> 00:45:45.895 And then my second piece of advice is less centralized on 998 00:45:45.895 --> 00:45:47.695 the college and more on IU as a whole. 999 00:45:48.555 --> 00:45:51.975 But you know, your life isn't going 1000 00:45:51.975 --> 00:45:55.255 to end if it's not the degree you exactly want. 1001 00:45:55.595 --> 00:45:58.695 You're still in the same place you are in general. 1002 00:45:58.695 --> 00:46:00.255 Nothing is gonna change really. 1003 00:46:00.875 --> 00:46:04.695 Um, just enjoy your, your college student life 1004 00:46:05.045 --> 00:46:07.015 with all the tools that IU gives you. 1005 00:46:07.635 --> 00:46:11.575 Um, you know, go to all of the clubs, the hundreds of clubs 1006 00:46:11.605 --> 00:46:15.215 that there are, um, minors in every other school 1007 00:46:15.215 --> 00:46:19.055 that you want, uh, had a double major, I don't know. 1008 00:46:19.055 --> 00:46:20.535 But there's so many tools 1009 00:46:21.115 --> 00:46:24.535 and I think that's kind of the recurring theme, uh, is that 1010 00:46:25.075 --> 00:46:27.575 IU just gives you and the college just give you a lot of 1011 00:46:28.125 --> 00:46:31.415 opportunities that just sometimes you just need to seize 1012 00:46:31.475 --> 00:46:32.895 and take, take the first sleep.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.125 --> 00:00:04.375 Well, one of the things that I think is intimidating 2 00:00:04.375 --> 00:00:07.775 for students, maybe right outta the gate, is that the, the, 3 00:00:07.855 --> 00:00:11.495 A student might maybe know what computer science is mm-hmm. 4 00:00:11.795 --> 00:00:13.815 But data science and informatics, they're like, 5 00:00:13.845 --> 00:00:15.295 what am I actually gonna do with this? 6 00:00:15.405 --> 00:00:17.495 Like, what is this field 7 00:00:17.955 --> 00:00:19.735 and how does it intersect in business? 8 00:00:20.035 --> 00:00:21.335 Can you talk a little bit about that? 9 00:00:22.275 --> 00:00:23.615 Yes, absolutely. Yeah. 10 00:00:23.915 --> 00:00:26.335 Um, so it's interesting that you say that, that students, 11 00:00:26.475 --> 00:00:28.495 uh, maybe kind of know what computer science is 12 00:00:28.495 --> 00:00:31.975 because, uh, sometimes we find that they don't, um, 13 00:00:32.025 --> 00:00:34.535 maybe have an accurate, uh, uh, feel 14 00:00:34.535 --> 00:00:35.655 for what computer science is. 15 00:00:36.235 --> 00:00:39.015 So, um, the, the Ludy School, uh, 16 00:00:39.075 --> 00:00:41.615 offers four different Bachelor's of Science degrees 17 00:00:42.035 --> 00:00:43.775 and one that's, uh, affiliated 18 00:00:43.805 --> 00:00:45.575 with us in the College of Arts and Sciences. 19 00:00:45.875 --> 00:00:48.215 Um, the two biggest ones are computer Science 20 00:00:48.355 --> 00:00:49.375 and informatics. 21 00:00:49.795 --> 00:00:52.855 Um, now many students have heard of computer science, um, 22 00:00:53.155 --> 00:00:54.735 but I like to start with computer science 23 00:00:54.735 --> 00:00:56.055 because it's a common term, 24 00:00:56.435 --> 00:00:58.815 and it is the part of technology 25 00:00:58.845 --> 00:01:01.455 that really focuses on the tech itself. 26 00:01:01.915 --> 00:01:04.135 So if you wanna know how a computer thinks, 27 00:01:04.515 --> 00:01:07.295 how it can be secured, um, how, what kinds 28 00:01:07.295 --> 00:01:10.015 of things it can do, or how it can be programmed, um, 29 00:01:10.615 --> 00:01:12.175 computer science is, is good for that. 30 00:01:12.515 --> 00:01:16.175 Um, students who may be enjoy more technical work, um, 31 00:01:16.445 --> 00:01:18.655 they might, um, be okay 32 00:01:18.655 --> 00:01:21.455 with taking a few math classes like calculus and, 33 00:01:21.475 --> 00:01:23.615 and beyond that, um, not that you have 34 00:01:23.615 --> 00:01:25.055 to be a super math major, 35 00:01:25.235 --> 00:01:27.095 but, uh, you know, they'd just be 36 00:01:27.095 --> 00:01:28.295 comfortable taking a few classes. 37 00:01:28.955 --> 00:01:32.615 Um, and then these, uh, students who do computer science, 38 00:01:33.195 --> 00:01:35.615 um, they can often go into technical roles, 39 00:01:35.875 --> 00:01:38.335 so things like software engineering. 40 00:01:38.555 --> 00:01:41.015 Um, we, um, also have a lot of students 41 00:01:41.015 --> 00:01:44.055 who are interested in finance and FinTech. 42 00:01:44.555 --> 00:01:47.455 So if you are interested in finance within business, 43 00:01:47.595 --> 00:01:49.175 and you really wanna know like, 44 00:01:49.195 --> 00:01:51.535 how those algorithms actually work and, 45 00:01:51.675 --> 00:01:53.415 and how the computer's thinking about it 46 00:01:53.435 --> 00:01:55.215 and making decisions, um, 47 00:01:55.975 --> 00:01:59.055 computer science can give you a real deep dive into 48 00:01:59.055 --> 00:02:01.735 that kind of machine learning and artificial intelligence. 49 00:02:02.755 --> 00:02:05.855 So, yes, I would say computer science is, um, 50 00:02:05.915 --> 00:02:09.375 on the more technical side of things, uh, informatics, um, 51 00:02:09.675 --> 00:02:12.335 it still includes some tech skills, 52 00:02:12.555 --> 00:02:15.815 and obviously you're dealing with, um, technology, 53 00:02:16.155 --> 00:02:20.535 but you're also seeing how people in technology interact. 54 00:02:21.075 --> 00:02:25.975 So informaticists, um, they can help businesses to decide, 55 00:02:26.115 --> 00:02:28.615 you know, what kind of technology is good for us. 56 00:02:29.355 --> 00:02:30.695 Um, many, uh, 57 00:02:30.695 --> 00:02:32.375 informatic students are interested in tech 58 00:02:32.375 --> 00:02:33.855 consulting for that reason. 59 00:02:34.515 --> 00:02:36.655 Um, we also have informatic students 60 00:02:36.715 --> 00:02:39.535 who are interested in data that maybe they, um, 61 00:02:39.555 --> 00:02:43.175 aren't doing the kind of deep, um, statistical 62 00:02:43.275 --> 00:02:45.295 and the modeling kinds of things, 63 00:02:45.435 --> 00:02:48.495 but they wanna be able to work with data to visualize 64 00:02:48.515 --> 00:02:49.535 and communicate data. 65 00:02:49.915 --> 00:02:51.935 Um, informaticists can do things like that. 66 00:02:52.075 --> 00:02:56.095 So for instance, um, if you are, um, into marketing 67 00:02:56.355 --> 00:02:59.485 and you wanna, uh, get into the marketing analytics 68 00:02:59.945 --> 00:03:03.085 of your company, um, I think informatics could help you 69 00:03:03.085 --> 00:03:04.325 with some skills for that. 70 00:03:04.865 --> 00:03:08.325 Um, informatics also would include things like tech design 71 00:03:09.025 --> 00:03:12.045 and, um, website and apps and app design. 72 00:03:12.585 --> 00:03:15.405 So, um, if you were interested in the user experience 73 00:03:15.405 --> 00:03:19.005 of technology, we, we have students who will work for, um, 74 00:03:19.235 --> 00:03:21.405 tech companies, but they're working with the users 75 00:03:21.505 --> 00:03:23.805 and kind of doing testing of, you know, 76 00:03:23.805 --> 00:03:25.285 does this website feature work? 77 00:03:25.355 --> 00:03:26.805 Does this app work for people? 78 00:03:27.345 --> 00:03:30.205 Um, so, so yeah, it's a really interesting area for those, 79 00:03:30.305 --> 00:03:32.565 um, uh, people who are maybe more creative 80 00:03:32.745 --> 00:03:36.485 or might maybe interested in working with people a lot. 81 00:03:36.625 --> 00:03:38.165 Um, although I do, 82 00:03:38.485 --> 00:03:40.565 I do get the concern from some Kelly students 83 00:03:40.565 --> 00:03:45.045 that computer science, um, might not, uh, allow them 84 00:03:45.105 --> 00:03:47.245 to work with people as much as they may be like. 85 00:03:47.665 --> 00:03:50.685 Um, and I think that that computer scientists, um, 86 00:03:50.795 --> 00:03:53.845 will always be working in teams and working with colleagues, 87 00:03:54.145 --> 00:03:56.325 and sometimes they can be working with clients as well. 88 00:03:56.465 --> 00:03:59.645 So it just kind of depends on how much you really want 89 00:03:59.645 --> 00:04:01.325 to incorporate that into your career. 90 00:04:01.905 --> 00:04:03.965 Um, so yeah, those are our two biggest computer 91 00:04:03.965 --> 00:04:05.125 science and informatics. 92 00:04:05.585 --> 00:04:09.085 And, um, you know, I, I often say with informatics is, 93 00:04:09.365 --> 00:04:11.645 I think of it as the, uh, the, you know, 94 00:04:11.645 --> 00:04:14.325 Thanksgiving break problem if you're sort of going home 95 00:04:14.345 --> 00:04:15.405 for Thanksgiving break, 96 00:04:15.505 --> 00:04:18.405 and you have to explain to your family what your major is 97 00:04:18.405 --> 00:04:19.405 and what you're gonna do with it. 98 00:04:19.825 --> 00:04:23.805 Um, informatics is kind of a, a, a word that is confusing, 99 00:04:24.305 --> 00:04:27.005 but, uh, ultimately, you know, you are working 100 00:04:27.005 --> 00:04:28.085 with tech and people. 101 00:04:29.265 --> 00:04:30.685 That's so great. 102 00:04:30.825 --> 00:04:33.965 And I'm actually learning some really good things from just 103 00:04:33.965 --> 00:04:35.005 listening to you right now. 104 00:04:35.025 --> 00:04:38.165 So thank you. When, one of the common questions 105 00:04:38.165 --> 00:04:40.725 that I get from students is, okay, 106 00:04:40.905 --> 00:04:42.765 if I change my major right now, 107 00:04:43.105 --> 00:04:44.805 or if I'm even exploring this 108 00:04:45.005 --> 00:04:46.125 semester, am I gonna be behind? 109 00:04:46.635 --> 00:04:48.165 Like, what should I do? 110 00:04:48.385 --> 00:04:49.405 And how do I decide 111 00:04:49.405 --> 00:04:53.125 between taking an informatics class versus taking the next 112 00:04:53.125 --> 00:04:56.125 class in data science, you know? Mm-hmm. 113 00:04:56.305 --> 00:04:59.645 Mm-hmm. And that, that is a common question, you know, 114 00:05:00.025 --> 00:05:03.645 and, and I would say, um, if you're in your first year, 115 00:05:03.865 --> 00:05:06.805 you know, if maybe you are exploring during that first year, 116 00:05:07.425 --> 00:05:10.645 um, for most of the degrees, you would be fine. 117 00:05:11.185 --> 00:05:14.405 Um, engineering, uh, would be the exception to that. 118 00:05:14.465 --> 00:05:17.285 But engineering has a lot of different requirements to it. 119 00:05:17.665 --> 00:05:19.645 Um, engineering is, uh, 120 00:05:19.645 --> 00:05:22.285 pretty much the hands-on creation of technology. 121 00:05:22.345 --> 00:05:25.205 So if you're interested in, you know, robotics and, 122 00:05:25.385 --> 00:05:28.565 and actually making an understanding how the sensors 123 00:05:28.565 --> 00:05:32.565 and other things in intelligent technology work, um, that's, 124 00:05:32.565 --> 00:05:34.445 that's what our engineering program is about. 125 00:05:34.865 --> 00:05:39.245 And because it has so many requirements, um, if you are, um, 126 00:05:39.785 --> 00:05:40.925 you know, not starting 127 00:05:40.955 --> 00:05:42.805 that pretty heavily within your first year, 128 00:05:42.805 --> 00:05:45.325 you can run into issues graduating in four years. 129 00:05:45.385 --> 00:05:47.005 Mm-hmm. Otherwise, you know, 130 00:05:47.005 --> 00:05:50.365 if you're within your first year, um, then, um, 131 00:05:51.425 --> 00:05:53.085 the programs are generally doable. 132 00:05:53.305 --> 00:05:54.565 Um, computer science 133 00:05:54.585 --> 00:05:58.645 and science have many, um, technical courses 134 00:05:58.835 --> 00:06:00.645 that you wouldn't necessarily be able 135 00:06:00.645 --> 00:06:02.405 to stack up in one semester. 136 00:06:03.025 --> 00:06:05.845 So, um, you know, if you are thinking of those areas, it's, 137 00:06:05.875 --> 00:06:09.605 it's good to kind of decide on that, um, as soon as you can, 138 00:06:10.185 --> 00:06:11.725 um, particularly if you're getting closer 139 00:06:11.725 --> 00:06:15.205 to your sophomore year, uh, that, that can, um, start 140 00:06:15.265 --> 00:06:17.365 to involve some summer classes or, or, 141 00:06:17.505 --> 00:06:19.645 or other, um, you know, work to catch up. 142 00:06:20.145 --> 00:06:23.965 Um, one thing that I found that can help students decide 143 00:06:25.105 --> 00:06:29.365 is, um, the math question, um, with all 144 00:06:29.365 --> 00:06:31.605 of the degrees except informatics, um, 145 00:06:32.025 --> 00:06:33.765 the math requirements starts 146 00:06:33.885 --> 00:06:36.765 with Calculus two 11 and goes from there. 147 00:06:37.305 --> 00:06:39.325 So if you can envision yourself doing that, 148 00:06:39.345 --> 00:06:42.165 or if you can envision yourself preparing with pre-calculus 149 00:06:42.225 --> 00:06:44.005 and doing that, then that's awesome. 150 00:06:44.465 --> 00:06:47.045 Um, if you, but if you hear about, you know, calculus 151 00:06:47.065 --> 00:06:49.165 and you're like, I totally, I don't even wanna walk into 152 00:06:49.165 --> 00:06:50.845 that classroom, um, you know, 153 00:06:51.005 --> 00:06:53.885 'cause I mean, many of our students enjoy it, uh, 154 00:06:53.885 --> 00:06:55.165 but some have strong feelings, 155 00:06:55.225 --> 00:06:58.565 and if not, uh, then, then informatics, um, 156 00:06:58.665 --> 00:07:00.125 you will just need to complete your 157 00:07:00.125 --> 00:07:01.605 math modeling course mm-hmm. 158 00:07:01.705 --> 00:07:04.565 Uh, that everybody at IU completes and, and that's it. 159 00:07:04.585 --> 00:07:06.925 So sometimes that helps students make the decision 160 00:07:07.425 --> 00:07:08.485 of which one to do. 161 00:07:09.265 --> 00:07:11.845 Um, and then if you're still undecided, uh, 162 00:07:11.845 --> 00:07:14.565 the good news is, is that some of the beginning courses 163 00:07:15.195 --> 00:07:16.765 will count in multiple degrees. 164 00:07:17.305 --> 00:07:20.005 So informatics I 1 0 1 can count in computer 165 00:07:20.005 --> 00:07:21.645 science and informatics. 166 00:07:22.025 --> 00:07:25.605 Um, computer science C 200 can count in informatics, 167 00:07:25.845 --> 00:07:27.045 computer science, and data science. 168 00:07:27.545 --> 00:07:29.245 So even if you take that first class 169 00:07:29.305 --> 00:07:31.245 and you're like, Hmm, maybe I wanna pivot, 170 00:07:31.985 --> 00:07:34.285 you can apply it in any of those degrees. 171 00:07:34.995 --> 00:07:37.325 Okay. That's super helpful to know. 172 00:07:37.585 --> 00:07:40.845 So in the math B one 10 mm-hmm. 173 00:07:40.925 --> 00:07:42.965 That some of these students might have taken in the fall 174 00:07:43.525 --> 00:07:45.005 semester, that could work 175 00:07:45.065 --> 00:07:46.925 for the informatics degree, correct? 176 00:07:47.825 --> 00:07:49.245 Yes. That is math modeling. 177 00:07:49.505 --> 00:07:53.125 Um, so that would be the only math class that is necessary. 178 00:07:53.265 --> 00:07:55.285 Um, there is a statistics class that you take, 179 00:07:55.345 --> 00:07:58.925 but that could be, um, across any different department. 180 00:07:58.925 --> 00:08:01.485 There's a lot of different options in psychology 181 00:08:01.625 --> 00:08:02.965 and O'Neill and criminal justice. 182 00:08:03.065 --> 00:08:06.525 So, so yes. The only math course that, in that case, 183 00:08:06.545 --> 00:08:08.005 if you've taken the B one 10, 184 00:08:08.005 --> 00:08:09.845 that will work for informatics. 185 00:08:11.195 --> 00:08:15.445 When you, in your experience, what kind of students tend 186 00:08:15.445 --> 00:08:16.525 to thrive in Luddy, 187 00:08:16.715 --> 00:08:18.605 even if they didn't originally see 188 00:08:18.605 --> 00:08:19.965 themselves as tech people? 189 00:08:21.235 --> 00:08:22.925 Yeah. Well, I, I mean, I think the, the, 190 00:08:22.985 --> 00:08:25.885 the first part is, um, you know, understanding 191 00:08:25.885 --> 00:08:28.765 that anyone could potentially be a tech person. 192 00:08:28.985 --> 00:08:31.365 You know, we have a lot of different flavors of tech here. 193 00:08:31.745 --> 00:08:35.525 Um, I always joke with, uh, my students in, in my class 194 00:08:35.555 --> 00:08:38.605 that, you know, there's this stereotype of the, you know, 195 00:08:38.605 --> 00:08:40.485 the, the introvert who is just in front 196 00:08:40.485 --> 00:08:43.085 of the computer all day at the end of the hall, you know, 197 00:08:43.235 --> 00:08:44.765 with, you know, just kind 198 00:08:44.765 --> 00:08:46.485 of not interacting with people all the time. 199 00:08:46.945 --> 00:08:49.565 And, you know, again, it really doesn't have to be that way. 200 00:08:49.825 --> 00:08:52.405 Um, tech is a lot of times what you make of it. 201 00:08:52.865 --> 00:08:56.685 Um, that said, uh, there are some, uh, 202 00:08:56.845 --> 00:08:58.445 quantitative kinds of courses. 203 00:08:58.945 --> 00:09:01.885 Um, I think one of the main things is that you would, um, 204 00:09:01.975 --> 00:09:04.485 wanna be comfortable being a self-starter. 205 00:09:04.905 --> 00:09:08.325 Um, I, I, a lot of our students are interested in, um, 206 00:09:08.945 --> 00:09:11.005 you know, trying their own projects 207 00:09:11.005 --> 00:09:12.645 or maybe getting on LinkedIn learning 208 00:09:12.705 --> 00:09:14.165 and learning a new tech skill. 209 00:09:14.575 --> 00:09:16.165 Maybe they've made their own website 210 00:09:16.265 --> 00:09:18.325 or, um, some even have, you know, 211 00:09:18.395 --> 00:09:20.005 side businesses or things like that. 212 00:09:20.145 --> 00:09:23.205 You know, I think that they're generally curious about 213 00:09:23.205 --> 00:09:26.205 technology and they, and they're not afraid to try it out. 214 00:09:26.665 --> 00:09:30.885 Um, so, so that I think would make, um, that would make, uh, 215 00:09:31.085 --> 00:09:33.405 students successful in learning. 216 00:09:33.625 --> 00:09:35.365 Um, it, that's a good sign. You know. 217 00:09:35.625 --> 00:09:39.045 Um, I will also say too, um, for, for informatics, um, 218 00:09:39.355 --> 00:09:42.805 strangely, I see a lot of students who have enjoyed K 2 0 1, 219 00:09:42.865 --> 00:09:44.965 and they enjoy some of the, you know, kind 220 00:09:44.965 --> 00:09:47.525 of results driven work you can get from K 2 0 1. 221 00:09:47.745 --> 00:09:49.645 So if you k taking K 2 0 1 222 00:09:49.645 --> 00:09:52.445 and you kind of like, you know, the things that, the skills 223 00:09:52.445 --> 00:09:55.685 that you're picking up in there, um, I think, um, 224 00:09:55.915 --> 00:09:57.965 informatics can be a, a good choice. 225 00:09:58.385 --> 00:10:00.805 Um, many of our students enjoy just being able 226 00:10:00.805 --> 00:10:02.565 to make something and show it to people. 227 00:10:02.785 --> 00:10:05.885 Um, and that's, that's very, um, gratifying for them. 228 00:10:06.145 --> 00:10:07.145 So, yeah. 229 00:10:08.155 --> 00:10:11.525 When you look at ways to specialize, you know, 230 00:10:11.525 --> 00:10:13.325 Kelly has four different minors 231 00:10:13.465 --> 00:10:15.085 and four different certificate programs 232 00:10:15.235 --> 00:10:16.405 that students can pursue, 233 00:10:16.825 --> 00:10:18.525 but I know that there are also some levels 234 00:10:18.545 --> 00:10:21.845 of specialization even within the degree programs mm-hmm. 235 00:10:21.925 --> 00:10:23.405 At lu. Could you talk a little bit about those? 236 00:10:24.705 --> 00:10:27.845 Yes. Um, actually all of our degrees have, um, 237 00:10:28.065 --> 00:10:32.445 or require a, a spec, uh, an area of specialization, um, 238 00:10:32.545 --> 00:10:36.565 any informatics, uh, that can be, uh, choosing any minor 239 00:10:37.105 --> 00:10:38.885 or any, uh, certificate. 240 00:10:39.385 --> 00:10:41.605 So, um, you know, if you've taken some Kelly courses 241 00:10:41.665 --> 00:10:43.365 and you're thinking, Hey, I would really love 242 00:10:43.365 --> 00:10:44.885 to do the business minor, um, 243 00:10:44.915 --> 00:10:47.805 that can be your required minor for the informatics major. 244 00:10:47.865 --> 00:10:50.405 So it's kind of handy. You could use maybe some 245 00:10:50.405 --> 00:10:52.205 of the classes you've taken, uh, toward 246 00:10:52.205 --> 00:10:53.685 that informatics requirement. 247 00:10:54.145 --> 00:10:56.205 Um, for computer science, data science 248 00:10:56.305 --> 00:10:59.765 and intelligence systems engineering, they have, um, 249 00:10:59.945 --> 00:11:01.765 specialization areas built in, 250 00:11:01.785 --> 00:11:04.365 or concentration areas built in, um, 251 00:11:04.425 --> 00:11:05.965 for different kinds of topics. 252 00:11:06.345 --> 00:11:09.125 Um, I know in computer science, um, one 253 00:11:09.125 --> 00:11:11.885 of the popular specialization areas is artificial 254 00:11:11.885 --> 00:11:16.085 intelligence, which is a big, um, area of business. 255 00:11:16.345 --> 00:11:19.365 Uh, so we see students specialize in that. 256 00:11:19.425 --> 00:11:23.405 Um, there are also, um, uh, areas like software engineering, 257 00:11:23.495 --> 00:11:26.045 which is very much about, you know, sort of the production. 258 00:11:26.065 --> 00:11:28.405 And, you know, again, that can be very, uh, 259 00:11:28.685 --> 00:11:30.565 business oriented if you, if that's the area 260 00:11:30.565 --> 00:11:31.725 of business you wanna get into. 261 00:11:32.265 --> 00:11:34.285 Um, data science, uh, same thing. 262 00:11:34.285 --> 00:11:36.245 We, we have, uh, data science students 263 00:11:36.265 --> 00:11:38.165 who are interested in healthcare, 264 00:11:38.225 --> 00:11:39.485 and so they'll do a biological 265 00:11:39.545 --> 00:11:43.845 and health, uh, uh, specialization, um, you know, any, 266 00:11:44.025 --> 00:11:48.285 any way, all the way to, um, you know, data visualization 267 00:11:48.465 --> 00:11:51.525 and, and those kinds of like general business skills that, 268 00:11:51.525 --> 00:11:53.365 that you might use in data science. 269 00:11:54.025 --> 00:11:55.405 So, yeah. Yeah. 270 00:11:55.505 --> 00:11:57.885 You, you get to, you get to kind of pick, um, you don't have 271 00:11:57.885 --> 00:11:59.565 to pick right away if you're not sure. 272 00:11:59.785 --> 00:12:02.765 Um, you can get into the major courses a little bit and, 273 00:12:02.785 --> 00:12:04.885 and then see which area fits you. 274 00:12:05.585 --> 00:12:10.285 That's great. I'm wondering too, you know, what 275 00:12:10.835 --> 00:12:13.005 kind of career services does Luddy have? 276 00:12:13.035 --> 00:12:15.525 Like, how does that position students 277 00:12:15.665 --> 00:12:16.845 for what they're going to do? 278 00:12:17.005 --> 00:12:19.325 I mean, I know that the Handshake platform 279 00:12:19.425 --> 00:12:21.205 and all the jobs that are posted are open 280 00:12:21.205 --> 00:12:23.085 to every single student at iu mm-hmm. 281 00:12:23.165 --> 00:12:24.605 And that the career fairs are all open, 282 00:12:24.785 --> 00:12:26.165 and I actually noticed that the Kelly, 283 00:12:26.305 --> 00:12:29.565 the Luddy Career Center has a lot of the same kinds 284 00:12:29.725 --> 00:12:32.525 of programs that I see the Kelly Career Center posting. 285 00:12:32.665 --> 00:12:34.645 Mm-hmm. Um, but how does that work? 286 00:12:34.715 --> 00:12:36.285 Like how do students access that? 287 00:12:37.315 --> 00:12:41.045 Yeah, so, um, the, um, I mean, uh, again, 288 00:12:41.045 --> 00:12:42.045 as you mentioned, you know, 289 00:12:42.045 --> 00:12:45.045 fortunately there are career services in every school at iu, 290 00:12:45.465 --> 00:12:47.925 and, you know, Kelly's career services are fabulous, 291 00:12:48.025 --> 00:12:50.005 but, you know, if I can say so myself, 292 00:12:50.205 --> 00:12:52.765 I think Luddy career services are fabulous as well. 293 00:12:53.265 --> 00:12:56.605 And as long as you are a luddy, uh, major or minor, 294 00:12:57.225 --> 00:12:59.725 or, um, if you've taken even six credit hours 295 00:12:59.725 --> 00:13:03.405 of Luddy classes, you can access Luddy career services. 296 00:13:03.945 --> 00:13:05.485 And we do many of the same things 297 00:13:05.545 --> 00:13:07.365 as every other career services office, 298 00:13:07.465 --> 00:13:09.245 so you can make in-person appointments. 299 00:13:09.785 --> 00:13:12.565 Um, we have career fairs twice a year. 300 00:13:13.025 --> 00:13:15.805 Um, we have, um, on campus interviewing, 301 00:13:15.825 --> 00:13:18.085 and we have, um, uh, you know, online 302 00:13:18.105 --> 00:13:20.005 and in-person events with employers, 303 00:13:20.385 --> 00:13:23.485 and many of the employers are similar, um, to the ones 304 00:13:23.755 --> 00:13:25.245 that you might see in Kelly. 305 00:13:25.665 --> 00:13:26.685 Um, you know, we have some 306 00:13:26.685 --> 00:13:29.765 of the big consulting firms like EY and PWC. 307 00:13:30.505 --> 00:13:34.685 Um, we have, um, insurance companies like, uh, you know, 308 00:13:34.685 --> 00:13:36.365 Liberty, Liberty Mutual is a big one. 309 00:13:36.865 --> 00:13:41.205 Um, we have, um, you know, certain, uh, tech companies, 310 00:13:41.205 --> 00:13:45.125 of course, um, we have financial services, uh, you know, 311 00:13:45.405 --> 00:13:48.405 companies like Discover and MasterCard, so Yeah. 312 00:13:48.505 --> 00:13:50.925 And even governmental and, and security. 313 00:13:51.225 --> 00:13:53.805 Um, and that would be, um, so we we're affiliated 314 00:13:53.805 --> 00:13:56.125 with the cybersecurity and global policy degree in the 315 00:13:56.125 --> 00:13:57.125 College of Arts and Sciences, 316 00:13:57.125 --> 00:13:59.085 and so we serve those students as well. 317 00:13:59.625 --> 00:14:02.765 Um, but yeah, yeah, we even have, you know, Goldman Sachs, 318 00:14:02.825 --> 00:14:05.965 and, you know, all, all of the big companies, um, uh, 319 00:14:06.025 --> 00:14:08.925 our students have been known, uh, to work with. So, yeah, 320 00:14:09.085 --> 00:14:11.045 I, I always tell students, I say, you know, 321 00:14:11.045 --> 00:14:13.245 when the rubber meets the road, right? 322 00:14:13.245 --> 00:14:14.605 When it comes down to the very end, 323 00:14:14.665 --> 00:14:17.565 the employer wants the best employee, they're really, 324 00:14:17.565 --> 00:14:18.725 that's what they're really looking at. 325 00:14:18.785 --> 00:14:21.765 And so the, the challenge for students is to make sure 326 00:14:21.765 --> 00:14:23.565 that they're accumulating the kinds of clubs 327 00:14:23.665 --> 00:14:25.805 and student organizations and experiences. 328 00:14:26.215 --> 00:14:28.845 Right. And, and I'm kind of interested, you know, 329 00:14:29.025 --> 00:14:30.645 what's the typical pattern 330 00:14:30.865 --> 00:14:32.965 for internships for Luddy students? 331 00:14:33.035 --> 00:14:34.085 Like when do they do them 332 00:14:34.385 --> 00:14:36.045 and how does that happen? That sort of thing. 333 00:14:36.875 --> 00:14:39.965 Yeah. Well, so, uh, many students, I mean, 334 00:14:40.175 --> 00:14:43.805 internship is kind of a, it's, it, it, it's, uh, there's, 335 00:14:43.805 --> 00:14:46.045 there's a lot of different types of internships, 336 00:14:46.425 --> 00:14:49.405 but if we're thinking about the typical, you know, full-time 337 00:14:49.425 --> 00:14:53.125 or almost full-time summer internship, um, we have a lot 338 00:14:53.125 --> 00:14:56.125 of students who will do that in their junior summer, uh, 339 00:14:56.225 --> 00:14:59.365 before their senior year, um, in, uh, 340 00:14:59.595 --> 00:15:02.285 certain programs like informatics and data science. 341 00:15:02.665 --> 00:15:05.085 Um, there are requirements that you do a capstone project. 342 00:15:05.225 --> 00:15:08.725 And so if your internship is sufficiently technical, um, 343 00:15:08.865 --> 00:15:11.925 you can ask before you start the internship to see whether 344 00:15:11.925 --> 00:15:13.445 that could count as your capstone work. 345 00:15:13.445 --> 00:15:15.405 Otherwise, we have a class for that. 346 00:15:15.785 --> 00:15:18.805 Um, but yeah, the junior internship, um, is a, 347 00:15:18.805 --> 00:15:20.045 is a pretty typical thing. 348 00:15:20.465 --> 00:15:22.885 Um, however, um, fortunately we've noticed 349 00:15:22.885 --> 00:15:26.245 that some employers are also interested in early 350 00:15:26.245 --> 00:15:28.285 career, uh, programs. 351 00:15:28.785 --> 00:15:33.325 Um, so for instance, um, ey uh, we, we have lots of students 352 00:15:33.345 --> 00:15:35.325 who are interested in their early career program 353 00:15:35.775 --> 00:15:38.165 where they might, uh, do something as sophomores 354 00:15:38.165 --> 00:15:40.125 or they might get, um, you know, introduced 355 00:15:40.125 --> 00:15:41.205 to the company that way. 356 00:15:41.705 --> 00:15:42.805 So, yeah. And, 357 00:15:42.905 --> 00:15:45.245 and of course, with tech, I mean, there's all sorts 358 00:15:45.245 --> 00:15:47.085 of different ways to do, you know, 359 00:15:47.155 --> 00:15:49.045 part-time jobs and internships. 360 00:15:49.325 --> 00:15:51.005 I mean, um, we have, uh, 361 00:15:51.365 --> 00:15:54.045 UITS here on campus employs our students. 362 00:15:54.185 --> 00:15:55.565 Um, the Center for Excellence 363 00:15:55.565 --> 00:15:58.205 for Women in Technology has internships, um, 364 00:15:58.205 --> 00:15:59.445 that some of our students do. 365 00:15:59.505 --> 00:16:02.285 So, uh, there's all sorts of ways to get experience as well. 366 00:16:02.705 --> 00:16:05.685 Um, but yeah, yeah, that's, that's kind of, um, 367 00:16:05.685 --> 00:16:07.245 what the typical landscape looks like. 368 00:16:07.305 --> 00:16:10.085 And, um, our career services has actually put together some 369 00:16:10.085 --> 00:16:11.885 information, you know, when you meet with them, 370 00:16:11.915 --> 00:16:14.485 that if you say, you know, Hey, I'm a first year student, 371 00:16:14.825 --> 00:16:16.765 you know, I'm, I'm kind of thinking of 372 00:16:16.765 --> 00:16:19.085 how I wanna spend my summer, and what are your suggestions? 373 00:16:19.425 --> 00:16:20.725 And they can help you out with that. 374 00:16:21.425 --> 00:16:24.085 That's great. So I, that's really helpful. 375 00:16:24.605 --> 00:16:27.085 I would imagine you mentioned the Capstone experience, 376 00:16:27.085 --> 00:16:29.485 but I would imagine that some of the courses have projects 377 00:16:29.485 --> 00:16:32.405 built in that are pretty hands-on anyway. 378 00:16:32.505 --> 00:16:34.845 Can you think of a specific example of one of those 379 00:16:34.875 --> 00:16:37.005 that you're like, oh, no, this is really cool, you need to 380 00:16:38.435 --> 00:16:39.435 Very much. Yes. So, 381 00:16:39.435 --> 00:16:42.765 so, uh, for instance, with Informatics, um, they, 382 00:16:42.985 --> 00:16:45.205 uh, have a year long capstone course. 383 00:16:45.905 --> 00:16:49.485 Uh, and so at the end of the year, um, usually in April, 384 00:16:49.715 --> 00:16:51.485 they have a poster session for that. 385 00:16:51.745 --> 00:16:53.765 Um, and anyone can go and see it. 386 00:16:53.825 --> 00:16:55.725 But I've, I've, uh, visited a few times 387 00:16:55.985 --> 00:16:59.005 and students have created apps, um, everything from, 388 00:16:59.505 --> 00:17:03.605 you know, apps to help, uh, children in hospitals stay, 389 00:17:03.985 --> 00:17:06.125 you know, uh, uh, occupied 390 00:17:06.225 --> 00:17:09.965 and happy, you know, to, you know, apps to help me know, um, 391 00:17:09.965 --> 00:17:11.645 when the gym's open, you know, 392 00:17:11.645 --> 00:17:13.005 like all, all sorts of different things. 393 00:17:13.065 --> 00:17:14.925 So, um, you know, there are those kinds of things. 394 00:17:15.025 --> 00:17:18.005 Um, we also have a strong support for 395 00:17:18.885 --> 00:17:19.885 entrepreneurship in the school. 396 00:17:19.985 --> 00:17:22.045 So I've talked to a lot of students who have, 397 00:17:22.195 --> 00:17:23.965 they've just sort of come up with their own ideas, 398 00:17:24.105 --> 00:17:25.605 not necessarily as part of the class, 399 00:17:25.865 --> 00:17:28.365 but just something they've wanted to make themselves. 400 00:17:28.425 --> 00:17:32.205 And so we have, um, organizations, uh, for entrepreneurship 401 00:17:32.205 --> 00:17:35.445 that maybe you can find, um, different people to help you 402 00:17:35.445 --> 00:17:37.605 with that, or maybe some support for that. 403 00:17:37.865 --> 00:17:41.125 So, um, of, of course, yeah, again, other, other courses, 404 00:17:41.345 --> 00:17:44.245 you know, we have, um, you know, courses in computer science 405 00:17:44.245 --> 00:17:45.685 where I've seen, uh, some 406 00:17:45.685 --> 00:17:47.645 of the artificial intelligence projects 407 00:17:47.645 --> 00:17:50.525 where they're making, uh, games, uh, or, 408 00:17:50.585 --> 00:17:51.965 or guessing games, you know, 409 00:17:51.965 --> 00:17:55.005 to see whether maybe an AI can do better than a human could. 410 00:17:55.585 --> 00:17:58.805 Um, our engineering 1 0 1 course is super fun 411 00:17:58.905 --> 00:18:03.125 and works with local schools to make educational games, uh, 412 00:18:03.125 --> 00:18:05.005 for students in K through 12 schools. 413 00:18:05.625 --> 00:18:06.725 Um, so that's really fun. 414 00:18:07.025 --> 00:18:10.645 Um, we also have an in-house, uh, tech clinic 415 00:18:10.795 --> 00:18:14.005 that students work in, um, that helps local nonprofits. 416 00:18:14.005 --> 00:18:15.725 And so, um, you know, we've had them work 417 00:18:15.725 --> 00:18:17.085 with maybe the Boys and Girls Club 418 00:18:17.185 --> 00:18:21.605 or the, um, you know, the, uh, the Humane Society to, uh, 419 00:18:21.675 --> 00:18:22.805 make websites or, 420 00:18:22.805 --> 00:18:25.565 or different other, um, kinds of supports that they need. 421 00:18:26.265 --> 00:18:28.325 Um, so yeah, there's all sorts of different kind 422 00:18:28.325 --> 00:18:30.085 of group projects you can get involved in. 423 00:18:30.385 --> 00:18:32.445 Um, you can also get involved in just research, 424 00:18:32.445 --> 00:18:34.885 individual research in some of our professor's labs. 425 00:18:35.025 --> 00:18:37.725 So, lots, lots of different ways to work with people. 426 00:18:38.185 --> 00:18:40.925 That's really cool. What, what's one myth 427 00:18:41.235 --> 00:18:45.485 that you think students have about the school 428 00:18:45.875 --> 00:18:47.965 that you're like, man, if I could just tell all the 429 00:18:48.085 --> 00:18:50.005 students, like, this thing is a myth, 430 00:18:50.005 --> 00:18:51.725 this is not true, what would it be? 431 00:18:53.475 --> 00:18:55.725 Well, gosh, I can, I can think of two of them. 432 00:18:55.945 --> 00:19:00.605 Um, the first one is that, um, oh, if I'm not a math genius, 433 00:19:00.635 --> 00:19:02.285 there's no place for me in tech. 434 00:19:03.025 --> 00:19:04.365 Um, and that's not true. 435 00:19:04.665 --> 00:19:08.125 Um, you know, everyone has a math requirement at iu. 436 00:19:08.465 --> 00:19:11.125 Um, but depending on what it is that you hope to study, 437 00:19:11.145 --> 00:19:14.085 you don't necessarily need to be a, a, um, you know, 438 00:19:14.235 --> 00:19:15.445 into math that much. 439 00:19:16.105 --> 00:19:21.085 Um, I also, um, am always, um, you know, 440 00:19:21.245 --> 00:19:22.765 a little disappointed when I see a student 441 00:19:22.785 --> 00:19:24.005 who feels intimidated 442 00:19:24.005 --> 00:19:25.965 that there's not a place in tech for them. 443 00:19:26.665 --> 00:19:28.805 Um, because one thing that I've learned being 444 00:19:28.805 --> 00:19:31.965 around this school is that there's so many different ways 445 00:19:32.065 --> 00:19:33.325 to get involved in tech. 446 00:19:33.505 --> 00:19:35.405 Um, you know, tech is everywhere. 447 00:19:35.625 --> 00:19:37.685 Uh, tech is gonna be used, you know, no matter 448 00:19:37.685 --> 00:19:38.965 what your major's gonna be, no matter 449 00:19:38.965 --> 00:19:40.085 what your career is gonna be. 450 00:19:40.425 --> 00:19:41.725 Um, tech is a part of it. 451 00:19:41.945 --> 00:19:43.845 So, um, I hope 452 00:19:43.845 --> 00:19:47.245 that students don't shy away from doing luddy courses 453 00:19:47.425 --> 00:19:49.125 or thinking about luddy as an option just 454 00:19:49.125 --> 00:19:50.765 because they feel like they're not techy enough, 455 00:19:50.785 --> 00:19:53.365 or they, they haven't had experience yet, you know, 456 00:19:53.365 --> 00:19:55.845 that you, uh, you know, maybe you would've had to learn 457 00:19:55.845 --> 00:19:57.245 to program in high school 458 00:19:57.345 --> 00:20:00.485 or take courses in, in high school to do this. 459 00:20:00.985 --> 00:20:02.805 Um, everyone has to start somewhere. 460 00:20:03.425 --> 00:20:06.085 And so, you know, that's what I meant by, you know, 461 00:20:06.085 --> 00:20:08.805 being a self-starter and being willing to just try it. 462 00:20:09.185 --> 00:20:12.285 Um, that's, that's, uh, what I hope everyone will feel free 463 00:20:12.285 --> 00:20:14.205 to do if, if, if they're kind of interested, you know, 464 00:20:14.205 --> 00:20:17.805 if you've ever, if you've ever been on a website, even like, 465 00:20:17.805 --> 00:20:19.445 oh, I would've done it this way, you know, 466 00:20:19.445 --> 00:20:21.805 or if you've ever thought of an app idea that, Hey, 467 00:20:21.865 --> 00:20:24.045 why doesn't someone make an app that does this? 468 00:20:24.585 --> 00:20:27.205 Um, you could do that. You could do that. 469 00:20:27.945 --> 00:20:30.285 That's awesome. And I really appreciate that. 470 00:20:30.475 --> 00:20:31.725 Well, I wanna go ahead 471 00:20:32.025 --> 00:20:36.725 and give folks an opportunity to ask some of those, uh, 472 00:20:37.165 --> 00:20:38.205 questions that they might have. 473 00:20:38.585 --> 00:20:40.725 And so if you all could drop those into the chat, 474 00:20:40.795 --> 00:20:42.405 that would be super helpful to me. 475 00:20:42.665 --> 00:20:44.525 Or you can simply raise your hand 476 00:20:44.545 --> 00:20:46.205 and I'll call on you to ask the question. 477 00:20:46.205 --> 00:20:49.765 That's just fine. While folks are putting those questions 478 00:20:50.045 --> 00:20:54.325 together, we don't know what future jobs 479 00:20:54.465 --> 00:20:56.445 and future work worlds are gonna look like. 480 00:20:57.275 --> 00:20:59.165 What is it about the Ludy programs 481 00:20:59.475 --> 00:21:01.565 that make those students future proof? 482 00:21:02.145 --> 00:21:06.285 Mm-hmm. Well, one of the things that I think, um, 483 00:21:06.555 --> 00:21:08.325 that makes the programs future proof, 484 00:21:08.325 --> 00:21:09.605 and this is coming from things 485 00:21:09.605 --> 00:21:13.645 that I've heard our faculty say, um, is that, um, you know, 486 00:21:13.645 --> 00:21:15.685 there are a lot of different ways to learn tech, 487 00:21:15.745 --> 00:21:19.205 and I think some people will, um, you know, just sort 488 00:21:19.205 --> 00:21:22.365 of learn certain skills and say, okay, I'm, I'm ready. 489 00:21:22.665 --> 00:21:23.725 I'm ready for a career. 490 00:21:24.305 --> 00:21:28.285 Um, what lu's philosophy is, is that we're gonna teach you 491 00:21:28.905 --> 00:21:30.765 how to keep learning. 492 00:21:31.145 --> 00:21:32.885 Um, because tech changes all the time, 493 00:21:33.195 --> 00:21:36.085 tech will change even within the time that you're at iu. 494 00:21:36.505 --> 00:21:39.605 So we want you to be able to, to roll with those changes 495 00:21:40.065 --> 00:21:42.405 and, um, learn for your entire career. 496 00:21:43.025 --> 00:21:45.325 Um, the nice thing is, is that some of the skills 497 00:21:45.325 --> 00:21:48.165 that you will learn, um, are very, uh, 498 00:21:48.765 --> 00:21:50.125 quantifiable on your resume. 499 00:21:50.385 --> 00:21:52.685 And you can say, you know, yes, I have worked 500 00:21:52.685 --> 00:21:57.325 with this technology, um, yes, that makes me capable of, um, 501 00:21:57.685 --> 00:21:58.805 learning this new technology 502 00:21:58.805 --> 00:22:00.925 because it's very similar to what I did here. 503 00:22:01.385 --> 00:22:04.845 Um, so, so yeah, I think it, it opens up a way of thinking, 504 00:22:05.265 --> 00:22:07.365 um, that allows you, uh, to, 505 00:22:07.425 --> 00:22:08.885 to be valuable in the workplace. 506 00:22:09.785 --> 00:22:13.245 That's really great. So I haven't seen any questions come 507 00:22:13.305 --> 00:22:14.445 in to the chat yet. 508 00:22:14.475 --> 00:22:15.805 Does anyone have any that they want 509 00:22:15.805 --> 00:22:18.765 to ask in person, uh, while we're here? 510 00:22:20.025 --> 00:22:23.125 Hey, this is Shanik. Um, hey Anna. 511 00:22:23.385 --> 00:22:28.045 Um, just want to, um, we have attended yesterday, um, 512 00:22:28.275 --> 00:22:30.805 another, another program as well yesterday, 513 00:22:30.805 --> 00:22:32.205 that economics mm-hmm. 514 00:22:32.305 --> 00:22:34.405 Uh, that this one where they were, 515 00:22:34.475 --> 00:22:37.685 they were showcasing some kind of a slide in which, what, 516 00:22:37.715 --> 00:22:39.445 what are the courses and 517 00:22:39.445 --> 00:22:41.165 where the measures and manner that one. 518 00:22:41.425 --> 00:22:43.885 Mm-hmm. Do you have some kind of a slide similar to, 519 00:22:43.885 --> 00:22:45.925 for these programs, what you're explaining? 520 00:22:46.705 --> 00:22:48.685 We actually don't have a slide prepared for this, 521 00:22:48.685 --> 00:22:50.445 that I'm aware of mm-hmm. 522 00:22:50.745 --> 00:22:55.205 Nik, but we do have some amazing handouts, um, that Anna 523 00:22:55.225 --> 00:22:57.925 and her team provided to me earlier. 524 00:22:58.225 --> 00:23:01.645 And so I'm gonna drop my email address in here, 525 00:23:02.105 --> 00:23:04.965 and if you wanna just send me a quick email, 526 00:23:05.365 --> 00:23:07.365 I can attach those and send them to you. 527 00:23:08.435 --> 00:23:09.325 That will be great help. 528 00:23:09.555 --> 00:23:10.845 That will be great help, thank you. 529 00:23:11.085 --> 00:23:13.445 Absolutely. Yeah, really appreciate. We have the 530 00:23:13.485 --> 00:23:16.485 Handouts for each one of the degrees, uh, that kind 531 00:23:16.485 --> 00:23:19.365 of show the basics, and then we have a comparison handout, 532 00:23:19.905 --> 00:23:22.205 uh, of, of all five. So, yes. 533 00:23:22.875 --> 00:23:25.525 Okay. And from my side, 534 00:23:25.525 --> 00:23:27.845 definitely my daughter is there as well. 535 00:23:28.065 --> 00:23:31.125 Uh, that's, uh, is is also listening. 536 00:23:31.125 --> 00:23:32.365 Definitely she will ask a question, 537 00:23:32.385 --> 00:23:35.685 but, uh, currently she's in a pre-business 538 00:23:35.855 --> 00:23:37.165 where she picked up the school 539 00:23:37.225 --> 00:23:39.685 and she wanted to go into the finance as a major, 540 00:23:39.945 --> 00:23:44.085 and then the data was, data analytics was a minor. 541 00:23:44.225 --> 00:23:46.685 She was earlier we were preparing for. Mm-hmm. 542 00:23:46.785 --> 00:23:50.405 So if we have to go from that, that same direction, 543 00:23:50.405 --> 00:23:54.005 if you wanted to perceive, um, what will be the, 544 00:23:54.315 --> 00:23:58.925 what will be the, uh, best approach from your perspective, 545 00:23:59.025 --> 00:24:01.365 if you are to go in that direction, then which, which, 546 00:24:01.365 --> 00:24:02.845 which is, which is the right way 547 00:24:02.845 --> 00:24:04.045 to do it? That's my question. 548 00:24:04.995 --> 00:24:06.525 Yeah, that's a, that's a great question. 549 00:24:06.705 --> 00:24:09.645 And, um, so there are probably two 550 00:24:09.645 --> 00:24:10.845 different ways you could go. 551 00:24:11.345 --> 00:24:15.445 Um, you could go with the informatics major, um, 552 00:24:15.665 --> 00:24:18.405 or you could go with computer science or, or data science. 553 00:24:18.665 --> 00:24:20.125 And the reason I put those together is 554 00:24:20.125 --> 00:24:24.285 that they start the same way, um, with, uh, you know, 555 00:24:24.285 --> 00:24:25.725 your basic programming course, 556 00:24:25.755 --> 00:24:28.125 your C 200 programming and Python. 557 00:24:28.705 --> 00:24:29.845 Um, so the computer science 558 00:24:29.865 --> 00:24:32.285 and data science is going to get very technical. 559 00:24:32.345 --> 00:24:36.125 That's gonna give you, um, the, the, the background 560 00:24:36.225 --> 00:24:37.605 behind how the tech works. 561 00:24:37.785 --> 00:24:40.405 So if you're interested in finance and, 562 00:24:40.425 --> 00:24:43.485 and kind of truly understanding how, you know, again, 563 00:24:43.485 --> 00:24:45.365 how trading algorithms work and, and, 564 00:24:45.365 --> 00:24:46.925 and all of the nitty gritty of that, 565 00:24:47.105 --> 00:24:49.005 or taking large groups of data 566 00:24:49.385 --> 00:24:52.445 and making sense of it, um, those computer science 567 00:24:52.445 --> 00:24:54.805 or data science would be a good way to, to do that. 568 00:24:55.265 --> 00:24:57.205 Um, informatics, um, you, 569 00:24:57.465 --> 00:25:01.245 and you can do a data science, uh, minor with informatics, 570 00:25:01.245 --> 00:25:03.245 if you know, or computer science if you want, 571 00:25:03.505 --> 00:25:04.805 if you want a little bit of that. 572 00:25:04.905 --> 00:25:06.685 But, but wanna focus on informatics. 573 00:25:07.145 --> 00:25:11.045 Um, informatics would, um, you know, probably be more, 574 00:25:11.265 --> 00:25:12.765 you know, of the consulting side 575 00:25:12.785 --> 00:25:17.205 or sort of basic, you know, data, um, a visuals, uh, 576 00:25:17.205 --> 00:25:18.605 visualization of working with, 577 00:25:18.605 --> 00:25:19.845 you know, kind of general data. 578 00:25:20.465 --> 00:25:23.325 Um, the other thing is that with, with finance, um, 579 00:25:23.625 --> 00:25:26.285 you know, it just depends on what kind of role that you want 580 00:25:26.345 --> 00:25:27.365 to, to be in. 581 00:25:27.985 --> 00:25:31.205 So, um, yeah, I mean, whether you're in the, you know, 582 00:25:31.205 --> 00:25:33.285 marketing of your financial institution, 583 00:25:33.285 --> 00:25:35.325 whether you're just, um, actually in the, 584 00:25:35.325 --> 00:25:36.965 the trading and finance part. 585 00:25:37.105 --> 00:25:41.325 Um, but, but yeah, I think informatics would be, um, great, 586 00:25:41.325 --> 00:25:46.005 particularly if, um, you're doing some, um, you know, skills 587 00:25:46.225 --> 00:25:49.125 and, and networking outside of, of what you do in class. 588 00:25:51.285 --> 00:25:52.895 Good. Thank you. Mm-hmm. 589 00:25:52.895 --> 00:25:54.975 Really appreciate the insight here. Yeah. 590 00:25:56.115 --> 00:25:57.255 And as, and, 591 00:25:57.395 --> 00:26:01.215 and as just, um, the last question, uh, 592 00:26:01.265 --> 00:26:03.775 maybe definitely people will have more questions, 593 00:26:03.915 --> 00:26:08.295 but, uh, um, uh, my, another question is like, uh, if I have 594 00:26:08.295 --> 00:26:11.055 to, um, get the degree, like in degree wise, 595 00:26:11.315 --> 00:26:15.215 we will be getting as a, uh, uh, like 596 00:26:16.155 --> 00:26:17.255 is it a Kelly business? 597 00:26:17.255 --> 00:26:21.215 Like this is a, this is a, a Ludy business school? 598 00:26:21.235 --> 00:26:22.335 Or how is that, what is the, 599 00:26:22.335 --> 00:26:24.255 what is the degree which we'll be getting it end of? 600 00:26:24.885 --> 00:26:26.815 Yeah, so this is the, the Luddy School, 601 00:26:26.815 --> 00:26:28.455 just like Kelly is the school of business, 602 00:26:28.825 --> 00:26:30.455 Luddy is the School of the Informatics, 603 00:26:30.455 --> 00:26:31.495 computing and engineering. 604 00:26:31.595 --> 00:26:34.255 So, you know, we're, we're a different school, um, 605 00:26:34.555 --> 00:26:37.455 but students are, um, able to do, for instance, 606 00:26:37.975 --> 00:26:40.135 a Kelly Minor and add it to their degree. 607 00:26:40.235 --> 00:26:42.735 So if, um, you know, many of our lucky students, 608 00:26:42.735 --> 00:26:45.125 they're still interested in taking some Kelly courses 609 00:26:45.265 --> 00:26:46.325 and getting that background. 610 00:26:46.385 --> 00:26:50.165 And so, um, yeah, we will have, we will have students get a, 611 00:26:50.865 --> 00:26:53.165 uh, degree, for instance, in informatics 612 00:26:53.585 --> 00:26:56.245 and then have the Kelly minor with it. 613 00:26:56.305 --> 00:26:57.685 Uh, but it, but it would be coming from the 614 00:26:57.735 --> 00:26:58.765 Luddy School, yes. 615 00:27:00.805 --> 00:27:04.255 Okay. School. Okay. That's fine. 616 00:27:04.635 --> 00:27:07.055 Um, that's the question I had. 617 00:27:07.675 --> 00:27:09.815 Uh, y do you have anything from your side? 618 00:27:13.865 --> 00:27:16.105 I, I also, Oh, go ahead Anna. I'm 619 00:27:16.115 --> 00:27:17.115 Sorry. Sorry. Uh, just very 620 00:27:17.115 --> 00:27:18.545 quickly, I, I wanted to mention that, 621 00:27:18.645 --> 00:27:22.065 um, you know, if students are interested in, um, 622 00:27:22.155 --> 00:27:26.705 other Kelly credentials, uh, we, uh, definitely have a path 623 00:27:26.925 --> 00:27:31.745 to, um, uh, students being able to, um, 624 00:27:32.565 --> 00:27:36.265 uh, get a, uh, master's degree in Kelly. 625 00:27:36.725 --> 00:27:39.905 Um, so, uh, students may do a master's of science 626 00:27:39.925 --> 00:27:43.505 and information systems, uh, or, you know, accounting 627 00:27:43.525 --> 00:27:46.385 or finance, um, you know, we have different, uh, 628 00:27:46.525 --> 00:27:48.825 we have a lot of students who are considering that as well. 629 00:27:49.125 --> 00:27:50.705 So, um, you know, just 630 00:27:50.705 --> 00:27:52.745 because you get the undergraduate from Luddy, um, 631 00:27:52.805 --> 00:27:54.705 you can still consider going on 632 00:27:54.705 --> 00:27:56.625 and getting a graduate degree from the Kelly school. 633 00:27:58.085 --> 00:28:01.585 Got it. And is there any, any kind of, uh, uh, 634 00:28:02.425 --> 00:28:04.505 priority will be given to the, to the students? 635 00:28:04.845 --> 00:28:09.625 How is that like, uh, like being in a DY school of business, 636 00:28:09.625 --> 00:28:12.665 whether they, they get some kind of like, like may, 637 00:28:12.665 --> 00:28:17.225 may get some kind of a, uh, what I can say, uh, maybe in the 638 00:28:17.795 --> 00:28:19.665 first in the queue kind of things, you know? 639 00:28:20.615 --> 00:28:23.345 Yeah, I, um, I don't think it's exactly like that, 640 00:28:23.525 --> 00:28:26.385 but, uh, for instance, with, uh, the Master's of Science 641 00:28:26.405 --> 00:28:29.825 and Information Systems, uh, there is an accelerated program 642 00:28:29.835 --> 00:28:32.545 where students can get that master's in one year 643 00:28:32.715 --> 00:28:34.865 after graduating with the undergrad. 644 00:28:35.405 --> 00:28:38.785 Um, and, and so, uh, Kelly has partnered with Luddy 645 00:28:39.045 --> 00:28:42.145 to specifically have, um, a path to do that 646 00:28:42.445 --> 00:28:44.225 for informatics, for computer science students. 647 00:28:44.295 --> 00:28:46.945 They, they, um, so, you know, they still have 648 00:28:46.945 --> 00:28:48.985 to meet certain requirements and they have to apply 649 00:28:48.985 --> 00:28:51.985 and everything, but, uh, they, yes, they, they've made sort 650 00:28:51.985 --> 00:28:54.065 of a quicker way for students to get the master's 651 00:28:55.165 --> 00:28:58.945 And they're actually is a upcoming, uh, open house 652 00:28:59.125 --> 00:29:02.225 for the Kelly Masters programs taking place on January 21st. 653 00:29:02.485 --> 00:29:05.865 And so I'll drop, uh, the information about 654 00:29:06.005 --> 00:29:07.145 how to register for that. 655 00:29:07.405 --> 00:29:09.305 The website will say that it's just for the MS 656 00:29:09.305 --> 00:29:12.145 and management, but you're actually enrolling in a, 657 00:29:12.145 --> 00:29:15.225 you're registering for a program that is gonna cover all 658 00:29:15.225 --> 00:29:17.225 of the different master's programs. 659 00:29:17.225 --> 00:29:18.145 So I'll drop that in there.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.115 --> 00:00:02.335 And turn it right over to you, Trenton, so 2 00:00:02.335 --> 00:00:04.255 that you can share some of this information with students. 3 00:00:04.845 --> 00:00:08.015 Yeah. Um, so as we're kind of navigating this, everyone, 4 00:00:08.195 --> 00:00:10.535 um, I'm gonna be really just navigating Handshake 5 00:00:10.765 --> 00:00:11.975 Live as we do it. 6 00:00:12.315 --> 00:00:15.095 Um, so please forgive me if there's some brief moments, um, 7 00:00:15.235 --> 00:00:17.335 um, of loading or I might ask, uh, 8 00:00:17.335 --> 00:00:18.575 for some input in the chat. 9 00:00:19.075 --> 00:00:20.255 Uh, which case, uh, 10 00:00:20.255 --> 00:00:23.495 Megan can give me some feedback about your own thoughts on 11 00:00:23.495 --> 00:00:25.455 different questions, uh, so I can really make this 12 00:00:25.455 --> 00:00:26.895 as tailored for you all as possible. 13 00:00:27.475 --> 00:00:29.255 Um, so one of the big things I think 14 00:00:29.255 --> 00:00:31.215 that we should really make sure on the same pages is 15 00:00:31.215 --> 00:00:32.695 like, why Handshake? 16 00:00:32.915 --> 00:00:34.855 Uh, there are so many different 17 00:00:35.715 --> 00:00:38.175 career-oriented platforms in the world. 18 00:00:38.675 --> 00:00:40.895 Um, LinkedIn is a great one 19 00:00:40.915 --> 00:00:43.095 and one we'll probably talk a little bit more about today. 20 00:00:43.595 --> 00:00:46.135 Um, indeed you have specialized industry 21 00:00:46.235 --> 00:00:47.295 job boards, et cetera. 22 00:00:47.315 --> 00:00:49.295 So like why start at LinkedIn? 23 00:00:49.435 --> 00:00:51.055 Uh, or excuse me, why start at Handshake? 24 00:00:51.355 --> 00:00:53.415 Uh, and really what we know is that 25 00:00:53.925 --> 00:00:58.855 handshake is really designed specifically for you. 26 00:00:59.355 --> 00:01:01.695 Um, it is designed to be student friendly, 27 00:01:01.835 --> 00:01:03.815 and so there are over a million 28 00:01:04.175 --> 00:01:05.695 employers specifically on Handshake. 29 00:01:06.035 --> 00:01:08.495 Uh, and so when we talk to recruiters 30 00:01:08.495 --> 00:01:11.415 and employers about where do they want to go for internship 31 00:01:11.795 --> 00:01:15.735 and entry level job placement, this is typically going 32 00:01:15.735 --> 00:01:17.695 to be, uh, the bread and butter of that. 33 00:01:17.755 --> 00:01:19.775 So I would really recommend starting 34 00:01:19.775 --> 00:01:20.855 where the employers are. 35 00:01:21.235 --> 00:01:23.175 Uh, and so you are to a benefit here. 36 00:01:23.875 --> 00:01:27.295 And one of the reasons I think why, uh, I it's so impactful 37 00:01:27.325 --> 00:01:30.415 that IU Bloomington utilizes handshake is 38 00:01:30.415 --> 00:01:32.375 that when we really look at the data, uh, 39 00:01:32.375 --> 00:01:36.055 because we know that so many of us, uh, start on LinkedIn, 40 00:01:36.055 --> 00:01:39.535 right, when we're trying to start finding jobs, 41 00:01:39.725 --> 00:01:42.255 finding opportunities, finding internships, 42 00:01:42.675 --> 00:01:45.375 and sometimes you have to really have, well, 43 00:01:45.375 --> 00:01:47.535 it seems like a, a really well-developed network in order 44 00:01:47.535 --> 00:01:49.895 to navigate LinkedIn, especially easy. 45 00:01:50.555 --> 00:01:53.335 Um, and Handshake kind of flips that a little bit. 46 00:01:53.355 --> 00:01:56.255 You don't need as strong of a network just to get started. 47 00:01:56.755 --> 00:01:58.735 And the data's telling us that when you apply 48 00:01:58.735 --> 00:02:01.335 to an internship or a job on LinkedIn, 49 00:02:01.965 --> 00:02:04.935 sometimes the success rate, the data showing can be as low 50 00:02:04.935 --> 00:02:05.935 as 2% 51 00:02:06.195 --> 00:02:08.375 or some, some data says it could be even lower, 52 00:02:08.375 --> 00:02:09.415 as close as 1%. 53 00:02:09.715 --> 00:02:12.415 So I would really recommend, um, as a career coach 54 00:02:12.435 --> 00:02:14.775 for business retail and tech to say, if you're looking 55 00:02:14.775 --> 00:02:16.815 for opportunities, if you are looking for jobs, 56 00:02:17.035 --> 00:02:18.855 if you are looking for internships 57 00:02:18.915 --> 00:02:20.975 and you are an IU Bloomington student, 58 00:02:21.655 --> 00:02:23.615 I would exhaust handshake first and foremost 59 00:02:23.715 --> 00:02:24.895 before going anywhere else. 60 00:02:24.895 --> 00:02:26.495 And I'll tell you a little bit, here's how I would do it. 61 00:02:27.275 --> 00:02:31.495 Um, so for any of you that want to join, this is probably 62 00:02:31.845 --> 00:02:33.735 what your page looks like when you come in 63 00:02:33.735 --> 00:02:35.775 and maybe it's not as tailored to you specifically. 64 00:02:36.235 --> 00:02:38.895 Um, so one thing I would probably recommend, um, 65 00:02:39.235 --> 00:02:41.935 is adding some things to a profile mainly so 66 00:02:41.935 --> 00:02:44.735 that the handshake algorithm knows what are you here for, 67 00:02:45.365 --> 00:02:47.575 what are your goals and what are you after? 68 00:02:47.955 --> 00:02:49.815 And so it can really fine tune to, 69 00:02:49.995 --> 00:02:51.655 to connect you the opportunities that 70 00:02:52.215 --> 00:02:54.535 probably are gonna connect with those ambitions the most. 71 00:02:55.315 --> 00:02:58.775 Um, some easy things that might help is, one, I find 72 00:02:58.775 --> 00:03:01.445 that you really don't have to have a really 73 00:03:01.965 --> 00:03:04.445 strongly developed profile in order to do it. 74 00:03:04.825 --> 00:03:06.205 Um, you guys might see mine 75 00:03:06.205 --> 00:03:08.245 and it's extremely underdeveloped. 76 00:03:08.665 --> 00:03:09.845 Um, for right now. 77 00:03:10.025 --> 00:03:11.165 Uh, for one, some things 78 00:03:11.165 --> 00:03:12.525 to keep in mind as we talk through this. 79 00:03:12.545 --> 00:03:13.845 One, I'm not looking for a job 80 00:03:13.985 --> 00:03:15.285 and I'm not looking for an internship. 81 00:03:15.665 --> 00:03:19.885 And so I've actually intentionally bare boned my entire 82 00:03:19.885 --> 00:03:21.205 profile to almost nothing. 83 00:03:21.785 --> 00:03:26.405 And I'm still getting messages from recruiters constantly 84 00:03:26.405 --> 00:03:29.805 being like, hi, can, are you looking for a job? 85 00:03:29.905 --> 00:03:32.285 JP Morgan Chase, uh, something about Epic. 86 00:03:32.785 --> 00:03:35.925 Uh, and so what that means is at the end of the day, 87 00:03:36.395 --> 00:03:37.565 your profile's not everything, 88 00:03:38.305 --> 00:03:40.845 but here are some minor things I probably would consider 89 00:03:41.625 --> 00:03:44.485 one, I would probably put a headshot on here. 90 00:03:44.985 --> 00:03:48.445 Um, really data is showing that, at least according 91 00:03:48.465 --> 00:03:51.565 to LinkedIn, when you have a professional headshot 92 00:03:51.835 --> 00:03:53.525 that gives the impression that you, 93 00:03:53.665 --> 00:03:55.565 you appear like at least three things. 94 00:03:55.825 --> 00:03:59.725 One, approachable, uh, friendly and professional. 95 00:04:00.305 --> 00:04:03.525 And so we wanna make sure we hit multiple of those. 96 00:04:03.805 --> 00:04:05.725 'cause sometimes our photos, they look friendly 97 00:04:05.785 --> 00:04:07.045 and, and approachable. 98 00:04:07.475 --> 00:04:08.965 They don't necessarily look professional. 99 00:04:09.105 --> 00:04:11.725 And so kind of keeping those at the forefront 100 00:04:11.725 --> 00:04:15.245 of our minds about how do we want ourselves to present? 101 00:04:15.385 --> 00:04:18.405 And some data showing that you are like 20 times more likely 102 00:04:18.405 --> 00:04:21.125 to have recruiters and employers engage further 103 00:04:21.785 --> 00:04:24.005 in your profiles to find more information. 104 00:04:24.115 --> 00:04:26.605 Because you have this validating piece such 105 00:04:26.605 --> 00:04:30.525 as a profile photo, um, you of course can add some things 106 00:04:30.525 --> 00:04:32.245 that you're specifically looking for 107 00:04:32.585 --> 00:04:34.285 by roles or by industries. 108 00:04:34.635 --> 00:04:36.845 This is what we call your career interests. 109 00:04:37.025 --> 00:04:38.645 And so you can easily just add them 110 00:04:38.645 --> 00:04:39.685 here on the right corner. 111 00:04:40.975 --> 00:04:43.805 Those are the two big things. You probably are fine. 112 00:04:43.805 --> 00:04:45.005 Without a large summary, 113 00:04:45.145 --> 00:04:47.445 you're probably fine without a whole lot of skills. 114 00:04:47.685 --> 00:04:50.525 I will tell you honestly, if you're gonna add anything else 115 00:04:50.625 --> 00:04:54.165 to start to a profile, I would add a resume 116 00:04:54.625 --> 00:04:56.965 and all you would do is click my documents. 117 00:04:57.145 --> 00:04:59.765 And when you go to upload, you can say what it is 118 00:04:59.825 --> 00:05:01.325 and it's one of your resume. 119 00:05:01.805 --> 00:05:03.925 I probably would recommend not adding a cover letter 120 00:05:03.925 --> 00:05:05.485 transcript or other documents for now. 121 00:05:05.865 --> 00:05:08.725 Um, at least in business retail tech, if for those of you 122 00:05:08.725 --> 00:05:10.605 that need portfolios, you could add them here. 123 00:05:11.105 --> 00:05:13.485 Um, but resumes are the big one. And here's why. 124 00:05:14.265 --> 00:05:16.485 For any of you that ever go to a career fair, 125 00:05:16.485 --> 00:05:17.645 you're gonna check in. 126 00:05:18.145 --> 00:05:20.845 And sometimes employers want to be handed a resume. 127 00:05:21.235 --> 00:05:24.125 Sometimes employers might have a QR code for you 128 00:05:24.125 --> 00:05:26.045 to check in at their individual booth. 129 00:05:26.545 --> 00:05:30.005 And when you do that, you're actually show checking in 130 00:05:30.005 --> 00:05:31.365 by your handshake profile. 131 00:05:31.745 --> 00:05:34.405 And the recruiters then can just quickly glance to see 132 00:05:34.405 --> 00:05:36.205 who checked in, see their profile, 133 00:05:36.625 --> 00:05:38.725 and then what they can then do is see their resume. 134 00:05:39.505 --> 00:05:41.325 And why this is so important is 135 00:05:41.325 --> 00:05:44.085 because sometimes as we navigate these processes, we have 136 00:05:44.085 --> 00:05:48.045 to really think about how do recruiters navigate this? 137 00:05:48.265 --> 00:05:49.765 How do employers navigate this? 138 00:05:49.865 --> 00:05:51.925 How does that influence how I navigate it? 139 00:05:52.345 --> 00:05:54.125 And what we know is recruiters are telling us 140 00:05:54.235 --> 00:05:56.445 that when they are filtering through students, 141 00:05:56.635 --> 00:05:58.645 they're gonna click, do they have a resume 142 00:05:58.785 --> 00:06:00.045 filter, yes or no. 143 00:06:00.385 --> 00:06:03.445 And so if you don't have at least a, a resume on here, um, 144 00:06:03.745 --> 00:06:05.285 you're, you might be getting missed. 145 00:06:05.305 --> 00:06:07.365 And so that's something we definitely want to avoid. 146 00:06:08.505 --> 00:06:12.045 Um, so that's kind of a bare bone about, hey, all you need 147 00:06:12.045 --> 00:06:13.845 to know to get started, throw a profile, 148 00:06:14.335 --> 00:06:16.405 throw in a headshot if you don't have one. 149 00:06:16.865 --> 00:06:20.685 Um, the Walter Center at Ernie Pile Hall, which is just 150 00:06:20.685 --> 00:06:22.165 outside the IMU, um, 151 00:06:22.485 --> 00:06:24.485 actually has a free headshot photo booth 152 00:06:24.505 --> 00:06:27.645 and it's open from 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM every day. 153 00:06:28.065 --> 00:06:30.645 Uh, you just walk in, scan the QR code, take several photos 154 00:06:30.985 --> 00:06:32.045 and it'll just send it to your email. 155 00:06:32.045 --> 00:06:33.285 It's no charge. And that might get you 156 00:06:33.285 --> 00:06:34.725 started and maybe add a resume. 157 00:06:35.865 --> 00:06:38.565 Um, really the other things I would work 158 00:06:38.565 --> 00:06:41.245 through is not worry too much about explore, not 159 00:06:41.245 --> 00:06:42.405 to worry too much about feed. 160 00:06:42.655 --> 00:06:44.085 We're probably gonna spend most of our time in 161 00:06:44.085 --> 00:06:45.165 these other few tabs. 162 00:06:45.785 --> 00:06:49.365 Um, so if you, um, are like any of the students I meet with, 163 00:06:49.785 --> 00:06:53.045 um, probably one of the most common questions I get about 164 00:06:53.045 --> 00:06:57.645 when it comes to finance, accounting, merchandising, buying, 165 00:06:57.825 --> 00:07:00.845 supply chain real estate is this like age old question 166 00:07:00.845 --> 00:07:04.285 of like, I know what I want to do, but how do I get started? 167 00:07:04.785 --> 00:07:07.165 And I'll tell you, if you don't know how to get started, 168 00:07:07.635 --> 00:07:09.125 handshake is going to be the place 169 00:07:09.125 --> 00:07:10.565 that's gonna make it a little bit easier 170 00:07:10.785 --> 00:07:13.405 and a little bit more tangible to walk through slowly. 171 00:07:13.985 --> 00:07:15.365 So really if you're looking for jobs 172 00:07:15.665 --> 00:07:18.245 or internships, I would just start here 173 00:07:18.465 --> 00:07:20.045 as just a place to explore. 174 00:07:20.865 --> 00:07:23.005 Um, and so what we're gonna find is 175 00:07:23.005 --> 00:07:24.245 that right now the job 176 00:07:24.245 --> 00:07:25.405 market's actually looking pretty great. 177 00:07:25.785 --> 00:07:28.085 Um, when I look at the job boards specifically 178 00:07:28.085 --> 00:07:29.565 for handshake internships 179 00:07:29.565 --> 00:07:31.725 and entry level in the fall, um, 180 00:07:31.845 --> 00:07:34.885 I think we saw the numbers a a little bit closer to like 40 181 00:07:34.985 --> 00:07:36.285 to 50,000 jobs. 182 00:07:36.785 --> 00:07:38.285 So this says 10,000 plus, 183 00:07:38.625 --> 00:07:40.525 but actually when you'll get filters, we'll scroll down 184 00:07:41.105 --> 00:07:44.365 and we can see that it's actually over 30,000. 185 00:07:44.385 --> 00:07:47.365 So that's telling us, um, since we've kind of come out 186 00:07:47.365 --> 00:07:49.645 of the fourth quarter of 2025, 187 00:07:50.115 --> 00:07:52.885 that businesses are picking up in how they're recruiting 188 00:07:52.885 --> 00:07:55.045 and how they're looking for entry level talent 189 00:07:55.105 --> 00:07:56.325 and internships for the summer. 190 00:07:56.785 --> 00:07:59.045 Um, so there's still plenty of opportunities out there. 191 00:07:59.785 --> 00:08:01.045 So that's kind of a starting place. 192 00:08:01.665 --> 00:08:04.965 Um, and so really, really think about what are the things 193 00:08:04.965 --> 00:08:07.125 that really matter 194 00:08:07.465 --> 00:08:09.965 for your opportunity search right now? 195 00:08:10.585 --> 00:08:12.685 And know that if you are going to look here, 196 00:08:12.875 --> 00:08:16.765 here would be tip and trick number one, don't over filter. 197 00:08:17.785 --> 00:08:21.205 And really what that means is think about from a recruiter 198 00:08:21.205 --> 00:08:24.605 standpoint, when they're building these posts 199 00:08:24.825 --> 00:08:26.205 and building these opportunities, 200 00:08:26.675 --> 00:08:29.165 they're being strategic about not always wanting 201 00:08:29.185 --> 00:08:30.845 to post every single thing. 202 00:08:31.265 --> 00:08:34.245 Um, and so what that means is if you're really saying like, 203 00:08:34.315 --> 00:08:38.205 well, I really want, um, remote, okay, 204 00:08:38.205 --> 00:08:41.245 well I can tell you it's gonna drop the opportunities 205 00:08:41.245 --> 00:08:43.085 available to you dramatically. 206 00:08:43.145 --> 00:08:46.205 So I would really recommend in the early stage of searching 207 00:08:46.205 --> 00:08:49.085 for opportunities, be as open as possible 208 00:08:49.265 --> 00:08:51.965 and see what's there and then filter down from there. 209 00:08:52.465 --> 00:08:54.845 So really I would recommend only a few things 210 00:08:55.025 --> 00:08:56.445 and I'll show you them bit by bit. 211 00:08:56.785 --> 00:09:00.685 One, be really genuine about where you want to go. 212 00:09:01.025 --> 00:09:02.885 Um, and you can look for multiple places 213 00:09:02.985 --> 00:09:05.165 and maybe I'd recommend looking at them in interval. 214 00:09:05.185 --> 00:09:06.685 So like, let's say we're gonna start, 215 00:09:07.175 --> 00:09:08.245 let's just look in Chicago. 216 00:09:08.945 --> 00:09:12.045 And the biggest thing that I would probably recommend is I 217 00:09:12.045 --> 00:09:15.005 would really recommend looking by city, not by state. 218 00:09:15.465 --> 00:09:18.485 And the reason being is let's say you are a wealth 219 00:09:18.485 --> 00:09:19.805 management firm in Chicago. 220 00:09:20.505 --> 00:09:22.005 Are you gonna say you're from Illinois? 221 00:09:22.865 --> 00:09:24.685 No, you're gonna say you're from Chicago. 222 00:09:24.905 --> 00:09:26.445 You're not gonna say you're from New York State. 223 00:09:26.445 --> 00:09:27.725 You're gonna say you're from New York City. 224 00:09:28.185 --> 00:09:31.165 And so what we know is that as you're kind of navigating 225 00:09:31.165 --> 00:09:34.685 that, I would talk about looking at employers 226 00:09:34.685 --> 00:09:36.685 and looking at jobs kind of in the same way 227 00:09:36.685 --> 00:09:38.285 that employers talk about themselves as well. 228 00:09:38.955 --> 00:09:41.845 Okay, so we filter by the city of Chicago 229 00:09:42.145 --> 00:09:43.485 and then you're like, well, am I looking 230 00:09:43.485 --> 00:09:44.685 for a job or an internship? 231 00:09:45.155 --> 00:09:47.605 Okay, well maybe we say we're looking for jobs, great. 232 00:09:48.185 --> 00:09:51.165 Really no out front what it is exactly that we're kind 233 00:09:51.165 --> 00:09:53.205 of aiming for, knowing we can always go back 234 00:09:53.305 --> 00:09:56.645 and kind of reevaluate that search, um, 235 00:09:56.745 --> 00:09:58.245 and edit it a little bit differently. 236 00:09:59.515 --> 00:10:03.095 And then really, I would personally recommend only kind 237 00:10:03.095 --> 00:10:05.295 of using one more filter. 238 00:10:05.555 --> 00:10:08.495 And the only other filter I'd really recommend using, 239 00:10:08.715 --> 00:10:10.695 and it's probably my absolute favorite, 240 00:10:11.395 --> 00:10:13.735 is you can actually filter by major. 241 00:10:14.475 --> 00:10:18.175 Now, here is something that is so absolutely important 242 00:10:18.175 --> 00:10:19.495 that I think we all need 243 00:10:19.495 --> 00:10:20.695 to make sure we're on the same page about, 244 00:10:21.195 --> 00:10:25.615 is you do not have to filter jobs by your major. 245 00:10:26.475 --> 00:10:28.695 And here's the reason why I say that is 246 00:10:28.695 --> 00:10:32.695 that when we look at entry level jobs and internships, uh, 247 00:10:32.755 --> 00:10:35.655 and how it affects like the job market across the us, 248 00:10:36.245 --> 00:10:37.655 what we know is that people 249 00:10:37.925 --> 00:10:41.215 with a four year bachelor's degree, which is majority 250 00:10:41.215 --> 00:10:43.935 of us are getting here at IU Bloomington, um, is 251 00:10:43.935 --> 00:10:45.855 that less than 30% of them 252 00:10:46.435 --> 00:10:48.815 end up working across the US in a job 253 00:10:48.815 --> 00:10:51.855 or industry that directly relates to their degree. 254 00:10:52.925 --> 00:10:55.655 What does that mean? That means the majority of people 255 00:10:55.875 --> 00:10:59.415 who study something choose to eventually shift 256 00:10:59.415 --> 00:11:00.415 and pivot in other ways. 257 00:11:00.995 --> 00:11:02.335 Um, if you go to grad school, that number 258 00:11:02.335 --> 00:11:03.735 changes dramatically. 259 00:11:04.395 --> 00:11:07.455 Um, but if you are studying economics, 260 00:11:07.875 --> 00:11:10.455 you can go into business of finance. 261 00:11:11.115 --> 00:11:14.175 If you are studying finance, you can decide 262 00:11:14.175 --> 00:11:15.695 to go interior design. 263 00:11:15.995 --> 00:11:17.255 Really what we know is 264 00:11:17.255 --> 00:11:19.495 that right now in the US we are very much in 265 00:11:19.495 --> 00:11:22.215 what we would consider like a skills-based market. 266 00:11:22.715 --> 00:11:24.815 And that at the end of the day, employers love 267 00:11:24.815 --> 00:11:26.775 to skim a resume and they love to look at three things. 268 00:11:27.205 --> 00:11:29.015 Well, they wanna know your name, they wanna know 269 00:11:29.015 --> 00:11:31.375 what your major is, and then they wanna know do you have 270 00:11:31.375 --> 00:11:33.295 experience and then skills. 271 00:11:33.885 --> 00:11:36.735 They're literally sourcing out skills which can come 272 00:11:36.735 --> 00:11:40.135 through in coursework, projects, case competition, 273 00:11:40.475 --> 00:11:44.095 job shadows, micro internships, volunteer work, 274 00:11:44.395 --> 00:11:45.415 um, part-time jobs. 275 00:11:45.875 --> 00:11:47.615 Um, and a lot of those come together 276 00:11:47.685 --> 00:11:49.975 that when we find who's getting the job in internship, 277 00:11:50.685 --> 00:11:51.695 it's the storytellers. 278 00:11:51.875 --> 00:11:55.085 So know when you, you go to filter by major, you can filter 279 00:11:55.145 --> 00:11:56.805 by whatever major you want in order 280 00:11:56.825 --> 00:11:58.005 to kind of find what you want. 281 00:11:58.545 --> 00:12:01.765 Um, so let's say you're like, I'm an economics major 282 00:12:01.825 --> 00:12:03.925 and I'm really kind of curious in the idea 283 00:12:04.625 --> 00:12:06.485 of looking at finance 284 00:12:06.705 --> 00:12:09.525 or maybe I'm like looking at accounting, say, okay, 285 00:12:09.635 --> 00:12:13.565 well look at finance, um, and kind of apply from there. 286 00:12:14.345 --> 00:12:16.165 And so what we're gonna find is, okay, 287 00:12:16.455 --> 00:12:19.365 we're looking at full-time jobs in Chicago 288 00:12:20.075 --> 00:12:22.965 that are attracted to areas of finance. 289 00:12:23.705 --> 00:12:25.125 And so here's one at the beginning. 290 00:12:25.125 --> 00:12:26.845 We've got a partners Enterprise Capital, 291 00:12:27.355 --> 00:12:29.365 it's an investment management analyst. 292 00:12:30.185 --> 00:12:33.205 And here's now what we're gonna start seeing is a little bit 293 00:12:33.205 --> 00:12:36.685 different of Handshake versus LinkedIn is yes, 294 00:12:36.825 --> 00:12:37.965 is this job uh, 295 00:12:38.025 --> 00:12:40.405 amount lower than if you were to look on LinkedIn? 296 00:12:40.785 --> 00:12:43.645 Yes. Well, one, um, we've kind of filtered out. 297 00:12:43.645 --> 00:12:45.325 What we're not seeing is a lot of like here are 298 00:12:45.385 --> 00:12:46.845 senior analyst roles. 299 00:12:47.555 --> 00:12:49.245 This isn't a place employers are going 300 00:12:49.425 --> 00:12:51.885 for when they've already decided they want someone 301 00:12:51.885 --> 00:12:54.565 with five, 10 years experience, somebody 302 00:12:54.565 --> 00:12:57.125 that already has their MBA, um, and is coming 303 00:12:57.125 --> 00:12:59.605 and bringing a lot of other work dynamics on a resume. 304 00:13:00.225 --> 00:13:02.005 So this is definitely a place where, one, 305 00:13:02.005 --> 00:13:03.245 you're gonna have less competition 306 00:13:03.245 --> 00:13:06.245 because not everyone in the world is on Handshake. 307 00:13:06.465 --> 00:13:09.045 Really, this is gonna be something you see with a, a lot 308 00:13:09.045 --> 00:13:10.605 of the large institutions 309 00:13:10.605 --> 00:13:13.045 and Big 10 schools, um, across the us. 310 00:13:14.065 --> 00:13:16.645 So as you're kind of filtering through here, um, 311 00:13:16.665 --> 00:13:18.085 we can kind of see what matters to them. 312 00:13:18.155 --> 00:13:22.005 It's full-time, it pays $80, a $80,000 a year potentially 313 00:13:22.005 --> 00:13:25.405 as a starting point of negotiation, some great benefits. 314 00:13:25.915 --> 00:13:28.405 What we're gonna see is this position, uh, ask 315 00:13:28.425 --> 00:13:30.885 for us work authorization, um, 316 00:13:30.945 --> 00:13:32.605 and know that if that's something you, 317 00:13:33.125 --> 00:13:34.765 I is something you want to filter through, 318 00:13:35.095 --> 00:13:37.605 there is an additional filter for those of you 319 00:13:37.605 --> 00:13:39.405 that are looking for OPT 320 00:13:39.505 --> 00:13:41.965 or CPT, um, where you can filter 321 00:13:42.035 --> 00:13:45.125 that over here in the filters in order to understand that, 322 00:13:45.585 --> 00:13:47.325 um, to know what employers are looking for. 323 00:13:47.325 --> 00:13:51.565 However, always know that that isn't the end all be all. 324 00:13:51.745 --> 00:13:55.325 We know that there are employers who say that they, um, 325 00:13:55.515 --> 00:13:57.685 that US Work authorization is required 326 00:13:57.835 --> 00:13:59.245 that then end up actually being willing 327 00:13:59.245 --> 00:14:00.965 to sponsor OPT and CPT. 328 00:14:01.265 --> 00:14:03.685 And so sometimes we see employers do is they don't 329 00:14:03.685 --> 00:14:06.525 necessarily want to, um, click this option here. 330 00:14:06.665 --> 00:14:08.965 So know that you can still pursue options. 331 00:14:09.425 --> 00:14:11.925 Um, just be very truthful in the, in the process about 332 00:14:11.925 --> 00:14:13.645 where you're at and what are the needs and, 333 00:14:13.645 --> 00:14:15.245 and be able to really own that narrative. 334 00:14:16.265 --> 00:14:18.125 Um, so as we're kind of filtering through, 335 00:14:18.225 --> 00:14:21.325 we see we've got some overview, which is really easy. 336 00:14:21.875 --> 00:14:25.085 This should probably be influencing your cover letter at 337 00:14:25.085 --> 00:14:26.165 least in a few different ways. 338 00:14:26.905 --> 00:14:29.085 And then we get into this position overview 339 00:14:29.145 --> 00:14:30.325 and the responsibilities. 340 00:14:30.585 --> 00:14:33.325 And what you're gonna notice is a lot of jobs 341 00:14:33.385 --> 00:14:36.325 and internships, they love to use a bullet point list. 342 00:14:36.745 --> 00:14:37.845 And the reason is is 343 00:14:38.045 --> 00:14:41.685 'cause they're really hoping you're gonna see some 344 00:14:41.685 --> 00:14:43.085 of these skills and ideas 345 00:14:43.675 --> 00:14:46.925 related on your resume in your own bullet point list. 346 00:14:47.625 --> 00:14:51.365 Um, so for example, um, this specific role is looking 347 00:14:51.385 --> 00:14:54.685 for someone with some research and analytic background 348 00:14:55.365 --> 00:14:58.165 'cause they're going to, uh, develop familiarity 349 00:14:58.165 --> 00:15:00.445 with these sectors and ideas, review 350 00:15:00.445 --> 00:15:02.605 and interpret it property performance data. 351 00:15:03.105 --> 00:15:04.965 And so now we have to start wondering if 352 00:15:04.965 --> 00:15:06.085 this is what matters to them. 353 00:15:06.745 --> 00:15:10.085 Is there a place on our resume through an internship, 354 00:15:10.475 --> 00:15:15.325 through a course where we have reviewed an interpreted 355 00:15:16.245 --> 00:15:18.125 property or company level performance data? 356 00:15:18.585 --> 00:15:21.245 And for so many of you, the answer might be yes. 357 00:15:21.505 --> 00:15:23.445 And if so, you might wanna kind 358 00:15:23.445 --> 00:15:25.165 of strateg strategically make sure that 359 00:15:25.165 --> 00:15:27.285 that's really being seen on your resume. 360 00:15:28.105 --> 00:15:31.365 Um, because what we'll know is that if you apply to jobs 361 00:15:31.475 --> 00:15:34.325 that typically have more than probably like a hundred 362 00:15:34.645 --> 00:15:38.565 employees, um, you're probably also having your resumes 363 00:15:38.705 --> 00:15:42.285 and applications being read by something called an A TS. 364 00:15:42.545 --> 00:15:44.845 And essentially what that means is it is an applicant 365 00:15:45.205 --> 00:15:48.645 tracking system and it's using these key words, 366 00:15:48.775 --> 00:15:52.845 these action verbs, these key phrases to try to 367 00:15:53.725 --> 00:15:56.685 organize and give a score to candidates to figure out 368 00:15:57.465 --> 00:16:02.005 how do they review a large list of applicants in order 369 00:16:02.005 --> 00:16:03.485 to find the ones that are most important. 370 00:16:03.985 --> 00:16:05.925 So no, in today's world, 371 00:16:06.065 --> 00:16:08.925 and which is very different from a decade ago, 20, 372 00:16:08.985 --> 00:16:11.085 30 years ago, our parents' timeframe, 373 00:16:11.185 --> 00:16:14.205 our grandparents' timeframe that we're in this modern world 374 00:16:14.205 --> 00:16:17.645 where right now I, I think I would argue that resumes, 375 00:16:17.915 --> 00:16:18.965 they aren't really about us. 376 00:16:19.555 --> 00:16:22.125 Your resumes are really about the employer. 377 00:16:22.555 --> 00:16:24.325 It's their opportunity to see 378 00:16:24.505 --> 00:16:28.645 and answer the question, is this candidate qualified? 379 00:16:29.305 --> 00:16:33.285 Do they have exposure to the skill verbs, partnering, 380 00:16:33.795 --> 00:16:37.445 reviewing, developing, providing presentations, 381 00:16:37.835 --> 00:16:39.325 assisting, applying? 382 00:16:40.385 --> 00:16:41.645 Do they have the skills 383 00:16:42.265 --> 00:16:45.205 and the exposure to the needs of my industry? 384 00:16:45.665 --> 00:16:48.005 Um, and if you're hitting those things, you're, 385 00:16:48.005 --> 00:16:49.365 you're more likely to get an interview. 386 00:16:49.465 --> 00:16:51.435 So know that. Um, 387 00:16:51.455 --> 00:16:54.075 and then if you, you scroll down, we might, uh, be able 388 00:16:54.075 --> 00:16:57.795 to find what I call the really like best part 389 00:16:57.795 --> 00:16:59.595 of this algorithm, which is similar jobs. 390 00:17:00.415 --> 00:17:04.555 So Handshake is working with an algorithm behind the scenes 391 00:17:04.775 --> 00:17:06.355 for any of our like computer 392 00:17:06.355 --> 00:17:07.955 science students, uh, on the call. 393 00:17:07.955 --> 00:17:10.155 They probably can talk about this way better than I could. 394 00:17:10.615 --> 00:17:13.355 Um, but if you ever fill out your career interests, 395 00:17:13.485 --> 00:17:14.955 it'll be industry and role 396 00:17:15.015 --> 00:17:17.075 and it's trying to give you a better understanding 397 00:17:17.095 --> 00:17:18.995 of it's trying to understand what you're looking 398 00:17:19.015 --> 00:17:20.355 for and present it for you. 399 00:17:20.815 --> 00:17:22.915 And so something I would think about is looking 400 00:17:23.015 --> 00:17:25.355 for roles over here that really speak to you. 401 00:17:25.495 --> 00:17:26.555 And when you find one, 402 00:17:26.555 --> 00:17:28.435 like let's say it's investment management, 403 00:17:28.935 --> 00:17:30.275 scroll down to similar jobs. 404 00:17:30.455 --> 00:17:34.275 And this algorithm is much more closely tied to the role, 405 00:17:34.575 --> 00:17:36.355 though not necessarily tied 406 00:17:36.375 --> 00:17:38.115 to the filters that we've applied. 407 00:17:38.535 --> 00:17:40.795 So we're seeing really strong analyst roles, 408 00:17:40.795 --> 00:17:43.315 investment roles, but they're not tied to Chicago. 409 00:17:44.135 --> 00:17:45.875 So know that this is a great place 410 00:17:45.875 --> 00:17:47.315 to find some leads as well. 411 00:17:48.175 --> 00:17:51.445 Um, and so this is gonna be a great place to 412 00:17:52.075 --> 00:17:53.365 explore a little bit of jobs. 413 00:17:54.385 --> 00:17:55.765 Um, so let's go to the next thing. 414 00:17:56.065 --> 00:17:57.565 Um, next is gonna be events. 415 00:17:58.555 --> 00:18:01.805 This is going to be a catchall of any career 416 00:18:02.365 --> 00:18:04.525 oriented event on campus from career fairs 417 00:18:04.525 --> 00:18:07.805 to career development to workshops to seminars, 418 00:18:08.065 --> 00:18:09.365 to in-person to virtual. 419 00:18:09.945 --> 00:18:11.685 And some things here I would really want 420 00:18:11.685 --> 00:18:14.685 to point out is one, you are going to see events here 421 00:18:14.755 --> 00:18:17.405 that are not tied to your specific school. 422 00:18:17.905 --> 00:18:19.805 Um, we have a lot of students here on the call 423 00:18:19.805 --> 00:18:21.525 that are from the College of Arts and Sciences. 424 00:18:21.865 --> 00:18:24.045 You're gonna see some events from Kelly. 425 00:18:24.705 --> 00:18:27.205 Um, so for example, if we scroll down, 426 00:18:27.335 --> 00:18:29.325 we're gonna see the Kelly early career fairs, 427 00:18:29.325 --> 00:18:30.845 which is this Wednesday, 428 00:18:30.845 --> 00:18:33.965 and it's in person at 5:00 PM You can go to that. 429 00:18:34.175 --> 00:18:36.725 There are employers that are going to expect 430 00:18:36.725 --> 00:18:38.245 that you come and meet them there. 431 00:18:38.385 --> 00:18:39.765 That's the day they're on campus. 432 00:18:40.345 --> 00:18:42.405 Um, and Kelly is able to host them. 433 00:18:43.465 --> 00:18:46.085 We have some Kelly students that are on the call. 434 00:18:46.345 --> 00:18:48.805 And I can tell you we've got some very strong 435 00:18:49.325 --> 00:18:52.245 business oriented, uh, specific places 436 00:18:52.925 --> 00:18:54.165 actually on campus tomorrow 437 00:18:54.465 --> 00:18:56.445 for the Spring College and O'Neill Fair. 438 00:18:56.945 --> 00:18:59.005 Um, target and Scribe, we have Ross. 439 00:18:59.345 --> 00:19:02.205 Um, and they're some big retail brands right there. 440 00:19:02.835 --> 00:19:05.045 They're expecting kids that are kind of come to this. 441 00:19:05.065 --> 00:19:07.085 So know that these events in general are open 442 00:19:07.085 --> 00:19:09.645 to all students regardless of where they're located. 443 00:19:09.785 --> 00:19:12.605 If they're located in a college building, a Kelly building, 444 00:19:12.845 --> 00:19:15.085 a Lutie building, a School of Ed building, um, 445 00:19:15.105 --> 00:19:16.325 and you are welcome to all of them. 446 00:19:16.425 --> 00:19:18.445 And sometimes you're gonna find events that are actually not 447 00:19:19.205 --> 00:19:20.485 actually hosted by IU at all. 448 00:19:21.185 --> 00:19:23.685 Um, they're actually hosted by employers 449 00:19:23.745 --> 00:19:26.445 and they're virtual, um, Deloitte being one, 450 00:19:26.445 --> 00:19:28.805 they've got some in-person versions, um, 451 00:19:28.945 --> 00:19:31.285 and that are going to be I bet at Hodge Hall. 452 00:19:31.665 --> 00:19:33.485 Um, and then they've got actually a virtual one 453 00:19:33.485 --> 00:19:35.845 that is not sponsored by Kelly, but all students can attend. 454 00:19:37.385 --> 00:19:39.275 Okay, next we're gonna go into people. 455 00:19:39.695 --> 00:19:42.315 If you really have started to figure out 456 00:19:42.425 --> 00:19:44.555 what are some roles you like, um, 457 00:19:44.815 --> 00:19:47.475 and we will say analyst, maybe it's an investment, 458 00:19:47.475 --> 00:19:48.675 analyst is gonna be one 459 00:19:48.695 --> 00:19:51.195 and you're, you aren't really finding the leads. 460 00:19:51.425 --> 00:19:53.035 What we know is that right now we're, 461 00:19:53.035 --> 00:19:54.235 we're in the spring semester 462 00:19:54.235 --> 00:19:56.275 and spring recruitment is not as large. 463 00:19:56.275 --> 00:19:58.915 It is is for fall. And so employers sometimes 464 00:19:59.475 --> 00:20:00.475 navigate it a little bit differently. 465 00:20:00.975 --> 00:20:04.475 So sometimes one of the best ways to search for jobs, 466 00:20:04.895 --> 00:20:06.915 I'm gonna tell you in my opinion, it's not to look for them. 467 00:20:07.545 --> 00:20:11.155 Instead look for people, people that have had jobs. 468 00:20:11.655 --> 00:20:14.035 Um, and that might be a way to find some interest. 469 00:20:14.135 --> 00:20:16.275 So for example, you can look by job role. 470 00:20:16.365 --> 00:20:18.155 These are across the big 10, 471 00:20:18.335 --> 00:20:20.915 beyond just simply like the IU Bloomington space. 472 00:20:21.495 --> 00:20:25.035 And we say we're looking for an investment, um, analyst 473 00:20:25.895 --> 00:20:29.195 and I didn't spell it right, so, okay, backspace 474 00:20:29.705 --> 00:20:32.415 analyst, one second. 475 00:20:32.915 --> 00:20:36.175 And uh, okay, there got my keyboard working. 476 00:20:36.755 --> 00:20:38.775 And so what we can then find is like, okay, 477 00:20:38.775 --> 00:20:41.055 well there are 7,800 students 478 00:20:41.075 --> 00:20:44.575 and alumni across the US who have already kind 479 00:20:44.575 --> 00:20:47.685 of branched into this investment analyst space. 480 00:20:48.345 --> 00:20:50.445 And here's one from a current student 481 00:20:50.585 --> 00:20:53.925 who has at some point done a, a real estate internship. 482 00:20:54.625 --> 00:20:58.525 We could go to their profile, uh, see where it was 483 00:20:58.745 --> 00:21:00.605 and add that to like a little leads list, 484 00:21:00.605 --> 00:21:01.645 maybe an Excel document. 485 00:21:01.645 --> 00:21:04.805 We keep separate to help us kind of navigate ideas 486 00:21:04.865 --> 00:21:07.405 and where to look, an investment analyst, 487 00:21:07.665 --> 00:21:11.325 an investment internship, here's another, here's another. 488 00:21:11.545 --> 00:21:14.605 And so it can sometimes be really daunting 489 00:21:14.605 --> 00:21:15.765 to be like, how do I get started? 490 00:21:15.955 --> 00:21:18.765 Well, one way to start is not to start looking 491 00:21:18.905 --> 00:21:21.925 but to look at what are the trailblazers before you? 492 00:21:22.375 --> 00:21:26.245 Where have they gone? Is that somewhere I might want to go? 493 00:21:26.545 --> 00:21:30.005 And here a lot of these are IU students who might be able 494 00:21:30.005 --> 00:21:32.805 to give you some ideas about what worked for them. 495 00:21:33.145 --> 00:21:35.205 And you might get some great, um, mentorship 496 00:21:35.265 --> 00:21:37.245 and networking that might benefit in your 497 00:21:37.245 --> 00:21:38.645 application process as well. 498 00:21:40.395 --> 00:21:43.005 Okay. My favorite tip 499 00:21:43.005 --> 00:21:44.485 and trick though, I'm gonna tell you 500 00:21:44.675 --> 00:21:45.805 it's the employer's tab. 501 00:21:46.025 --> 00:21:49.965 And so what we know is that the job market in a lot 502 00:21:49.965 --> 00:21:52.045 of ways is a lot like an iceberg. 503 00:21:52.505 --> 00:21:55.685 And so what that means is icebergs are very little 504 00:21:55.795 --> 00:21:57.325 presented on top of the water. 505 00:21:57.585 --> 00:22:00.565 The majority of an iceberg is hidden deep inside the ocean. 506 00:22:01.145 --> 00:22:03.165 And the job market is a lot like that. 507 00:22:03.385 --> 00:22:06.445 So when you look for jobs here on Handshake, um, 508 00:22:06.905 --> 00:22:11.125 he on LinkedIn, on Indeed through Google search, really 509 00:22:11.125 --> 00:22:13.085 what we know is you're skimming the surface. 510 00:22:13.385 --> 00:22:16.965 You're actually only accessing probably about 20% 511 00:22:16.965 --> 00:22:18.245 of the overall job market. 512 00:22:18.875 --> 00:22:21.965 What we know the bottom is what's really sometimes called 513 00:22:21.985 --> 00:22:26.045 the hidden job market is sometimes never posted externally 514 00:22:26.475 --> 00:22:28.245 from actual company websites. 515 00:22:28.615 --> 00:22:30.165 These are things you're only gonna find 516 00:22:30.425 --> 00:22:33.165 by internal recommendations through networking 517 00:22:33.465 --> 00:22:36.125 or really gritting down to find where you want to be. 518 00:22:36.905 --> 00:22:39.965 Um, and so I guess what I'd be really curious about from any 519 00:22:39.965 --> 00:22:42.365 of you, um, and since we're recording, um, 520 00:22:42.385 --> 00:22:44.285 if you would like just put it in the chat 521 00:22:44.705 --> 00:22:47.165 and then Meg can kind of tell me what, uh, comes 522 00:22:47.165 --> 00:22:49.205 to mind is really be thinking about 523 00:22:49.475 --> 00:22:50.925 what industry are you curious about. 524 00:22:51.185 --> 00:22:53.965 And so if any of you, I'm gonna show you some, if one speaks 525 00:22:53.965 --> 00:22:56.405 to you, drop it in the chat, Meg, let me know. 526 00:22:56.585 --> 00:22:58.845 Uh, and I'm happy to explore that as an example. 527 00:22:59.495 --> 00:23:02.965 We've got PR and marketing, we've got 528 00:23:03.765 --> 00:23:04.965 construction, commercial banking. 529 00:23:06.425 --> 00:23:10.415 Let's see, we've got financial services, 530 00:23:11.345 --> 00:23:12.375 government finance, 531 00:23:12.545 --> 00:23:14.215 We've got one for finance. Trenton. 532 00:23:14.525 --> 00:23:18.415 Yeah, sure. And merchandising. Ooh, merchandising. 533 00:23:18.515 --> 00:23:20.175 All right. So, uh, we'll do one of both. 534 00:23:20.235 --> 00:23:22.775 So we'll do financial services, merchandising, 535 00:23:22.835 --> 00:23:24.135 you're gonna be all the way down here 536 00:23:24.515 --> 00:23:26.135 and uh, we're gonna look up a retail. 537 00:23:26.645 --> 00:23:29.615 Okay? So let's start with financial services. 538 00:23:30.115 --> 00:23:33.295 And so what we know is that it's gonna give you a lot, 539 00:23:33.525 --> 00:23:36.375 handshake is a catchall amazing place 540 00:23:36.375 --> 00:23:37.975 to be when it comes to finding employers. 541 00:23:38.235 --> 00:23:40.535 And so when you scroll down here to see, alright, in finance 542 00:23:41.515 --> 00:23:42.615 10,000 employers, 543 00:23:43.485 --> 00:23:47.405 what I would then recommend is always really diversifying 544 00:23:47.625 --> 00:23:49.085 the type of places you're looking. 545 00:23:49.545 --> 00:23:50.805 Um, and I, this is a, a, 546 00:23:50.965 --> 00:23:53.005 a concept we talk about when looking at grad schools. 547 00:23:53.085 --> 00:23:55.405 A lot like, you know, when you apply to grad school, 548 00:23:55.465 --> 00:23:58.285 I'd always suggest like maybe have some top tier places, 549 00:23:58.285 --> 00:24:00.045 places you're like, I'm not getting in there, 550 00:24:00.145 --> 00:24:03.085 but I'd love to some places that like, Ooh, it's a stretch, 551 00:24:03.145 --> 00:24:04.325 but I feel good about it. 552 00:24:04.385 --> 00:24:06.325 And it may be a few places that are backups. 553 00:24:06.705 --> 00:24:10.365 So maybe you may wanna consider finding a few internship 554 00:24:10.665 --> 00:24:13.045 or job options that are larger firms. 555 00:24:13.425 --> 00:24:16.805 You know, 25,000 employees is a very large firm. 556 00:24:17.315 --> 00:24:19.045 Then we've got some in the smaller firm, 557 00:24:19.045 --> 00:24:20.765 maybe it's five to 10,000. 558 00:24:20.865 --> 00:24:24.965 And what we know is they might have less competition, one 559 00:24:24.965 --> 00:24:27.925 to 5,000 less competition and that, 560 00:24:28.025 --> 00:24:29.685 but they may be in less desirable places. 561 00:24:29.905 --> 00:24:33.045 You have places like Cincinnati versus New York City. 562 00:24:33.545 --> 00:24:35.245 Um, so finding a few different ones. 563 00:24:35.545 --> 00:24:38.125 And so let's stick with our original example we tried 564 00:24:38.125 --> 00:24:40.285 earlier is we said Chicago 565 00:24:40.665 --> 00:24:44.285 and once again, employers, you can see here that none 566 00:24:44.285 --> 00:24:46.925 of them say except for Wells Fargo that's super large, 567 00:24:46.925 --> 00:24:47.925 they're in just the us. 568 00:24:48.385 --> 00:24:50.845 Um, most of them are going to have a specific branch 569 00:24:50.865 --> 00:24:52.525 or a major city that they're gonna kind 570 00:24:52.525 --> 00:24:54.085 of hold as their place to be. 571 00:24:54.785 --> 00:24:57.645 Um, so as we're kind of looking here, here's what we kind 572 00:24:57.645 --> 00:24:59.205 of find is that, uh, 573 00:24:59.495 --> 00:25:01.445 we'll start Banker's Life here, financial services. 574 00:25:01.635 --> 00:25:03.885 When you click them, you're gonna get an overall 575 00:25:03.915 --> 00:25:05.205 profile view of the employer. 576 00:25:05.785 --> 00:25:08.445 And what it's gonna do is it's gonna first off tell 577 00:25:08.445 --> 00:25:09.725 you are there any jobs? 578 00:25:10.225 --> 00:25:11.725 And if it says no, 579 00:25:13.075 --> 00:25:15.055 I'm telling you do not trust and believe it. 580 00:25:15.525 --> 00:25:17.735 What we're seeing is a lot of employers, 581 00:25:17.895 --> 00:25:20.895 so this one's got a lot, 63 is a very large number 582 00:25:20.895 --> 00:25:22.015 of internships and jobs. 583 00:25:22.515 --> 00:25:25.415 Um, what we know is a lot of them hold back 584 00:25:25.555 --> 00:25:27.575 and they only post them on their website. 585 00:25:27.875 --> 00:25:30.095 And so what that means is if you ever see a jobs 586 00:25:30.095 --> 00:25:32.455 that say Zero, don't lose Faith, 587 00:25:32.845 --> 00:25:34.655 instead click visit website. 588 00:25:35.005 --> 00:25:38.175 When you go to a company website, scroll all the way down 589 00:25:38.175 --> 00:25:41.415 to the bottom to you see the little careers tab usually at 590 00:25:41.415 --> 00:25:42.535 the bottom, click it. 591 00:25:42.535 --> 00:25:44.575 And what you're gonna find is you're gonna be blown away 592 00:25:44.575 --> 00:25:49.015 by the amount of employers that have 10, 20, 30 jobs 593 00:25:49.435 --> 00:25:51.895 and then, but on Handshake or LinkedIn say they have none. 594 00:25:52.195 --> 00:25:55.175 And so that's how you access the hidden job market 595 00:25:56.035 --> 00:25:58.535 and know that once you find an employer you really care 596 00:25:58.535 --> 00:26:00.575 about, know that the benefits 597 00:26:00.575 --> 00:26:03.655 of coming here is if you scroll down past the jobs, 598 00:26:03.845 --> 00:26:05.175 past their feeds, past their 599 00:26:05.175 --> 00:26:06.935 testimonials, you get into people. 600 00:26:07.645 --> 00:26:09.135 This is really kind of interesting 601 00:26:09.295 --> 00:26:11.415 'cause what it's telling you is these are gonna be the 602 00:26:11.415 --> 00:26:14.295 recruiters, these are gonna, people that are coming 603 00:26:14.475 --> 00:26:15.695 to Hodge Hall 604 00:26:15.955 --> 00:26:19.695 or to the IMU to College Kelly Career Fair 605 00:26:19.715 --> 00:26:21.095 and career fairs across the US 606 00:26:21.555 --> 00:26:23.335 to manage internships and entry levels. 607 00:26:23.435 --> 00:26:26.335 And so if let's say you decide you're really wanting 608 00:26:26.395 --> 00:26:29.455 to apply to an internship with this specific company 609 00:26:29.515 --> 00:26:34.255 of Bankers Life, I'd be copy pasting Juliana Hayes's name, 610 00:26:34.545 --> 00:26:38.015 going to LinkedIn, which LinkedIn is for recruiting, 611 00:26:38.335 --> 00:26:39.495 I definitely would go there. 612 00:26:39.795 --> 00:26:42.895 Uh, a lot of people aren't managing their follow 613 00:26:43.065 --> 00:26:45.485 and messaging services specific on Handshake. 614 00:26:45.645 --> 00:26:48.205 I definitely am not. Um, so know that this is a place 615 00:26:48.205 --> 00:26:50.845 to find opportunities, LinkedIn's a place to network for it. 616 00:26:50.985 --> 00:26:53.885 So I would be looking up Juliana Hayes, look for the, um, 617 00:26:54.045 --> 00:26:55.485 a human that's working at Banker's Life 618 00:26:55.585 --> 00:26:58.325 and that's the person I would be messaging, um, in order 619 00:26:58.325 --> 00:26:59.605 to get your name in. 620 00:26:59.705 --> 00:27:02.165 And sometimes what we find is we have students 621 00:27:02.225 --> 00:27:04.325 who tell us they will go this route. 622 00:27:04.595 --> 00:27:07.765 They'll find, um, this wealth management trainee position, 623 00:27:07.915 --> 00:27:10.765 they send a message and they're like, hi Juliana, 624 00:27:11.045 --> 00:27:14.765 I found your wealth management trainee position on Handshake 625 00:27:14.795 --> 00:27:16.205 with your name attached. 626 00:27:16.665 --> 00:27:18.645 You know, based on what I'm seeing in some 627 00:27:18.745 --> 00:27:20.165 of the job description, 628 00:27:20.605 --> 00:27:22.605 I think I might be a really competitive candidate. 629 00:27:23.065 --> 00:27:24.405 I'd love to hear a little bit more about 630 00:27:24.485 --> 00:27:25.685 Banker's Life and the role. 631 00:27:26.015 --> 00:27:28.485 Would you ever be open to a 10 minute zoom call? 632 00:27:28.545 --> 00:27:30.125 I'd love to to hear your thoughts. 633 00:27:30.635 --> 00:27:33.685 What you're doing is you're making Juliana realize, one, 634 00:27:34.065 --> 00:27:36.765 you are valuable and you bring something to the table. 635 00:27:37.585 --> 00:27:40.485 Two, sparking your curiosity a little bit. 636 00:27:40.665 --> 00:27:43.005 You're telling this recruiter whose job is 637 00:27:43.005 --> 00:27:45.325 to go find really competitive candidates 638 00:27:45.955 --> 00:27:47.805 that she's got a competitive candidate on her hands 639 00:27:48.145 --> 00:27:50.685 and that's gonna be a reason to want to reach out. 640 00:27:51.135 --> 00:27:55.685 Third, you have given her an easy low stakes opportunity 641 00:27:56.225 --> 00:27:59.525 to engage with someone that might benefit them. 642 00:27:59.665 --> 00:28:01.645 You're not asking for 30 minutes of their time, 643 00:28:01.645 --> 00:28:03.965 you're not asking to have coffee, you're asking 644 00:28:03.985 --> 00:28:05.125 for a 10 minute Zoom chat, 645 00:28:05.305 --> 00:28:09.325 and that's the as low investment as you can possibly get. 646 00:28:09.785 --> 00:28:11.085 Um, and from there we've had some students 647 00:28:11.085 --> 00:28:14.005 who have had very great informal p uh, conversations 648 00:28:14.375 --> 00:28:16.965 where it's actually acting as their interview 649 00:28:16.965 --> 00:28:18.405 and they say, just send me your application. 650 00:28:18.455 --> 00:28:20.845 Let's go ahead and get you in. You don't even apply. 651 00:28:21.115 --> 00:28:22.485 That was your application. 652 00:28:22.545 --> 00:28:25.005 And so this can be really strategic in 653 00:28:25.065 --> 00:28:27.645 how you can access these jobs in a slightly different way. 654 00:28:29.185 --> 00:28:31.565 And then know at the end of the day, if you're, 655 00:28:31.745 --> 00:28:34.685 if you've navigated jobs, you've navigated events, 656 00:28:35.065 --> 00:28:37.085 you know about the career fair, you know about people, 657 00:28:37.085 --> 00:28:39.085 you know about employers and you're like, wow, 658 00:28:39.585 --> 00:28:41.005 my needs are kind of specific 659 00:28:41.195 --> 00:28:44.165 because everyone has a different need, that's where you have 660 00:28:44.165 --> 00:28:46.405 to call in your resources and that's where we come in. 661 00:28:46.985 --> 00:28:49.525 So click Career Center, that's how you find your coaches 662 00:28:49.745 --> 00:28:51.925 and career services across campus. 663 00:28:52.785 --> 00:28:53.965 And depending on what school, 664 00:28:54.295 --> 00:28:55.405 yours might look a little different, 665 00:28:55.425 --> 00:28:57.085 but I would really be clicking appointments. 666 00:28:58.025 --> 00:29:00.165 And when you schedule, you're gonna find a few options here. 667 00:29:00.865 --> 00:29:02.245 One, if you're in the College of Arts 668 00:29:02.245 --> 00:29:03.885 and Sciences, you're gonna have the Walter 669 00:29:03.945 --> 00:29:05.365 Center as an option. 670 00:29:05.945 --> 00:29:07.845 If you are not, if you are in Kelly 671 00:29:08.065 --> 00:29:10.325 or Luddy, uh, you might have multiple options. 672 00:29:10.465 --> 00:29:12.685 You might have options more than you realize. 673 00:29:13.005 --> 00:29:15.045 I apparently I can schedule with Jacobs School 674 00:29:15.045 --> 00:29:16.125 of Music, I don't know why. 675 00:29:16.585 --> 00:29:20.645 Um, and so know that if you ha have a need beyond that, so 676 00:29:20.645 --> 00:29:22.765 for example, if you don't have access to the Walter Center, 677 00:29:23.225 --> 00:29:25.845 um, my email is associated with this event, 678 00:29:25.905 --> 00:29:28.525 you can find it on the signup you had in the email 679 00:29:28.745 --> 00:29:29.805 as well as a handshake. 680 00:29:30.035 --> 00:29:32.445 Send me an email and I'm happy to get the Walter Center, 681 00:29:32.445 --> 00:29:33.525 which is where I am, um, 682 00:29:33.705 --> 00:29:35.485 to give you access to utilize as well. 683 00:29:36.265 --> 00:29:37.685 So hopefully this benefits you. 684 00:29:37.825 --> 00:29:39.205 Uh, for anyone looking 685 00:29:39.225 --> 00:29:41.285 for tomorrow in the Kelly Career Fair. 686 00:29:41.705 --> 00:29:44.485 Um, career fairs at this school under events is coming up. 687 00:29:44.795 --> 00:29:45.845 Make sure you click it 688 00:29:45.845 --> 00:29:47.805 and know that when it comes to a career fair 689 00:29:47.805 --> 00:29:50.965 and how those recruiters at the fair are navigating 690 00:29:50.965 --> 00:29:53.805 Handshake, what we know is that some 691 00:29:53.805 --> 00:29:56.165 of the most successful students at these career fairs, 692 00:29:56.515 --> 00:29:57.685 they don't wing it. 693 00:29:58.195 --> 00:30:00.485 They don't simply go to these events 694 00:30:00.665 --> 00:30:04.285 and simply say, Hey, I am, you know, 695 00:30:04.285 --> 00:30:05.605 just looking at employers. 696 00:30:05.625 --> 00:30:08.405 Hey, tell me what you're hiring for. They don't like that. 697 00:30:08.715 --> 00:30:09.925 They want you to have a plan. 698 00:30:10.105 --> 00:30:13.525 So make sure you pop on the page, click Employers. 699 00:30:14.145 --> 00:30:19.085 Um, I know that some people said, um, merchandising, so like 700 00:30:19.085 --> 00:30:22.605 for example, Ross is gonna be high evaluating, uh, 701 00:30:22.625 --> 00:30:24.405 the college career fair tomorrow. 702 00:30:24.865 --> 00:30:27.565 So click more. And we know that they're looking 703 00:30:27.565 --> 00:30:29.045 for assistant buyers in 704 00:30:29.065 --> 00:30:31.645 for the New York office assistant planning interns, 705 00:30:31.645 --> 00:30:33.725 assistant buyer from the New York City buying office 706 00:30:34.305 --> 00:30:36.805 and going up to them saying, Hey, I know 707 00:30:36.885 --> 00:30:38.045 that you are here looking for 708 00:30:38.045 --> 00:30:39.085 this assistant buyer internship. 709 00:30:39.385 --> 00:30:41.485 I'd love to pick your little bit more your brain about it. 710 00:30:41.545 --> 00:30:42.805 You know, I've been really looking up Ross 711 00:30:42.805 --> 00:30:44.085 and spending some time on the website. 712 00:30:44.275 --> 00:30:46.245 What that does is tell them you're not 713 00:30:46.245 --> 00:30:47.445 here for a internship. 714 00:30:47.945 --> 00:30:49.565 You're here for the internship. 715 00:30:49.905 --> 00:30:53.805 And so that's really some information specific to Handshake. 716 00:30:54.025 --> 00:30:55.765 You're not really gonna be able 717 00:30:55.765 --> 00:30:57.605 to get anywhere else, quite necessarily. 718 00:30:57.825 --> 00:31:00.045 So, um, hopefully this helped. 719 00:31:00.545 --> 00:31:04.205 Uh, and if not, obviously please make sure you book a career 720 00:31:04.485 --> 00:31:07.005 coaching appointment so that we can tailor a strategy, um, 721 00:31:07.405 --> 00:31:07.925 specifically for you.